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Mafia 98: The Way of Kings

#641 User is offline   Osseric 

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 06:04 AM

Olar Ethil said:

1361858172[/url]' post='1035010']
I haven't done the exact math, but I think there's so many CFs now that we definitely have all the role names (unless there's some sort of hidden independent or Parshendi special leader role).

So assuming a symmetrical setup each prince faction has a Prince, a BattalionLord, a BrightLord, an Elite Guard and a Captain. And then there'd be 4 Parshendi left. I don't know for sure that this is how it is, but it'd make sense to me.

If true, that'd mean Thanadar is down to only their Captain and there's only 2 Parshendi left, while Dalinar and Sadeas are each down 2 (including the Sadeas prince)


Exactly what I was about to get at. The initial number speculation of 4-4-4-7 has to be wrong if he factions mirror each other, and they should. So, your numbers appear correct from there.

Based on that, I think we should be hunting the last surviving Parshendi. With PS confirming to Ano (by mistake) that gemhearts have a function earlier, then they could be getting several per day without having to worry about 2/3 highprinces contesting the plateaus.

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 06:04 AM

He's probably not going to like that I did that...

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 06:06 AM

View PostOlar Ethil, on 26 February 2013 - 06:00 AM, said:

Ah what the hell. Battalion lords are killers right? Certainly seemed that way, since Lio (a batlord) was lynched day 2 and then we only had 3 NKs instead of 4.

Well Ano is the Dalinar battalion lord. Enjoy!


This is interesting, since it was randomly pulled out right after several of us suggest finishing off Thanadar.

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 06:09 AM

View PostSorrit, on 26 February 2013 - 06:06 AM, said:

View PostOlar Ethil, on 26 February 2013 - 06:00 AM, said:

Ah what the hell. Battalion lords are killers right? Certainly seemed that way, since Lio (a batlord) was lynched day 2 and then we only had 3 NKs instead of 4.

Well Ano is the Dalinar battalion lord. Enjoy!


This is interesting, since it was randomly pulled out right after several of us suggest finishing off Thanadar.


Then again, captains don't seem like much of a threat, so perhaps it's not so telling to try and go after bigger players than finish off a faction, for now. I guess I'm taking this back. Kind of.

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 06:09 AM

Olar Ethil said:

1361858439[/url]' post='1035012']
Ah what the hell. Battalion lords are killers right? Certainly seemed that way, since Lio (a batlord) was lynched day 2 and then we only had 3 NKs instead of 4.

Well Ano is the Dalinar battalion lord. Enjoy!


The other possibility is that captain can kill based on the night 1 loss of a captain. Either way, it's one of the two. Anyway, can you share how you know what you claim? That seems out if the blue.

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 06:13 AM

View PostOlar Ethil, on 26 February 2013 - 06:02 AM, said:

(everyone goes "guuuuuwhhwaaaa????")

Actually, I went "guuuuuwhhwaaaa-Choooooooo!!!!!" and filled another tissue with snot.

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View PostOlar Ethil, on 26 February 2013 - 05:56 AM, said:

I haven't done the exact math, but I think there's so many CFs now that we definitely have all the role names (unless there's some sort of hidden independent or Parshendi special leader role).

So assuming a symmetrical setup each prince faction has a Prince, a BattalionLord, a BrightLord, an Elite Guard and a Captain. And then there'd be 4 Parshendi left. I don't know for sure that this is how it is, but it'd make sense to me.

If true, that'd mean Thanadar is down to only their Captain and there's only 2 Parshendi left, while Dalinar and Sadeas are each down 2 (including the Sadeas prince)


Exactly what I was about to get at. The initial number speculation of 4-4-4-7 has to be wrong if he factions mirror each other, and they should. So, your numbers appear correct from there.

Based on that, I think we should be hunting the last surviving Parshendi. With PS confirming to Ano (by mistake) that gemhearts have a function earlier, then they could be getting several per day without having to worry about 2/3 highprinces contesting the plateaus.


So rather than hunt the last surviving member of Thanadar, you would rather go after two parshendi? Would this not suggest you are the last Thanadar?

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 06:13 AM

View PostOsseric, on 26 February 2013 - 06:09 AM, said:

View PostOlar Ethil, on 26 February 2013 - 06:00 AM, said:

Ah what the hell. Battalion lords are killers right? Certainly seemed that way, since Lio (a batlord) was lynched day 2 and then we only had 3 NKs instead of 4.

Well Ano is the Dalinar battalion lord. Enjoy!


The other possibility is that captain can kill based on the night 1 loss of a captain. Either way, it's one of the two. Anyway, can you share how you know what you claim? That seems out if the blue.


I'll wait and let the reactions accumulate first. Always more fun and more revealing that way.

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 06:19 AM

Awwww, so sorry you are wrong.

But, I bet it felt good to try to release "ground-breaking information!"

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 06:20 AM

I'm going to assume you aren't Dalinar then. So either Sadeas' highest remaining role, Thanadar, or Parshendi.

Which is it, hmmmm?

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 06:23 AM

I kind of figured we'd go after Dalinar today because it has the only remaining faction lead. Kind of strange you tee-off on a supposed batallion lord. Must be why you spiced it up with the "killer" flavor.

I'm actually going to guess remaining Thanadar, here. There is no other reason for the claim you are making.

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 06:25 AM

View PostOlar Ethil, on 26 February 2013 - 06:13 AM, said:

View PostOsseric, on 26 February 2013 - 06:09 AM, said:

View PostOlar Ethil, on 26 February 2013 - 06:00 AM, said:

Ah what the hell. Battalion lords are killers right? Certainly seemed that way, since Lio (a batlord) was lynched day 2 and then we only had 3 NKs instead of 4.

Well Ano is the Dalinar battalion lord. Enjoy!


The other possibility is that captain can kill based on the night 1 loss of a captain. Either way, it's one of the two. Anyway, can you share how you know what you claim? That seems out if the blue.


I'll wait and let the reactions accumulate first. Always more fun and more revealing that way.


Or, "I actually know jack shit - just trying to spread a bit of confusion coz I'm under pressure here".

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 06:25 AM

Either that, or you are pissed that I've continued highlighting a certain six players, and have actually hit Dalinar Prince himself and you want me dead, dead, dead for it.

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 06:27 AM

View PostSilanah, on 26 February 2013 - 06:25 AM, said:

View PostOlar Ethil, on 26 February 2013 - 06:13 AM, said:

View PostOsseric, on 26 February 2013 - 06:09 AM, said:

View PostOlar Ethil, on 26 February 2013 - 06:00 AM, said:

Ah what the hell. Battalion lords are killers right? Certainly seemed that way, since Lio (a batlord) was lynched day 2 and then we only had 3 NKs instead of 4.

Well Ano is the Dalinar battalion lord. Enjoy!


The other possibility is that captain can kill based on the night 1 loss of a captain. Either way, it's one of the two. Anyway, can you share how you know what you claim? That seems out if the blue.


I'll wait and let the reactions accumulate first. Always more fun and more revealing that way.


Or, "I actually know jack shit - just trying to spread a bit of confusion coz I'm under pressure here".


The strange this is that OE isn't under pressure. Which makes the false claim more confusing.

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 06:29 AM

Silanah said:

1361859195[/url]' post='1035019']

Olar Ethil said:

1361858552[/url]' post='1035013']
(everyone goes "guuuuuwhhwaaaa????")

Actually, I went "guuuuuwhhwaaaa-Choooooooo!!!!!" and filled another tissue with snot.

Osseric said:

1361858674[/url]' post='1035014']

Olar Ethil said:

1361858172[/url]' post='1035010']
I haven't done the exact math, but I think there's so many CFs now that we definitely have all the role names (unless there's some sort of hidden independent or Parshendi special leader role).

So assuming a symmetrical setup each prince faction has a Prince, a BattalionLord, a BrightLord, an Elite Guard and a Captain. And then there'd be 4 Parshendi left. I don't know for sure that this is how it is, but it'd make sense to me.

If true, that'd mean Thanadar is down to only their Captain and there's only 2 Parshendi left, while Dalinar and Sadeas are each down 2 (including the Sadeas prince)


Exactly what I was about to get at. The initial number speculation of 4-4-4-7 has to be wrong if he factions mirror each other, and they should. So, your numbers appear correct from there.

Based on that, I think we should be hunting the last surviving Parshendi. With PS confirming to Ano (by mistake) that gemhearts have a function earlier, then they could be getting several per day without having to worry about 2/3 highprinces contesting the plateaus.


So rather than hunt the last surviving member of Thanadar, you would rather go after two parshendi? Would this not suggest you are the last Thanadar?


I'm leaning towards agreeing that a battalionlord is responsible for NKs, if that is the case, then what threat is a captain, really? Same principal as what Sorrit is saying. So am I Tharandar? No, and based on your reaction I doubt you are either, so I guess OE did owe you an apology. I'd just rather go after more of a power role.

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 06:31 AM

Oooh, concerted effort here to paint batallion lords as killers.

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 06:32 AM

Let's go ahead and tie Osseric and OE together. Obviously not Thanadar, possibly Parshendi, Dalinar, Sadeas.

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 06:35 AM

View PostOlar Ethil, on 26 February 2013 - 06:04 AM, said:

He's probably not going to like that I did that...

Vote Anomandaris


I don't mind one bit, actually. You just showed how much you don't know about what is going on. Hopefully you aren't in my faction.

I'll admit it is a very clever scheme though.

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 06:37 AM

View PostOsseric, on 26 February 2013 - 06:29 AM, said:

View PostSilanah, on 26 February 2013 - 06:13 AM, said:

View PostOlar Ethil, on 26 February 2013 - 06:02 AM, said:

(everyone goes "guuuuuwhhwaaaa????")

Actually, I went "guuuuuwhhwaaaa-Choooooooo!!!!!" and filled another tissue with snot.

View PostOsseric, on 26 February 2013 - 06:04 AM, said:

View PostOlar Ethil, on 26 February 2013 - 05:56 AM, said:

I haven't done the exact math, but I think there's so many CFs now that we definitely have all the role names (unless there's some sort of hidden independent or Parshendi special leader role).

So assuming a symmetrical setup each prince faction has a Prince, a BattalionLord, a BrightLord, an Elite Guard and a Captain. And then there'd be 4 Parshendi left. I don't know for sure that this is how it is, but it'd make sense to me.

If true, that'd mean Thanadar is down to only their Captain and there's only 2 Parshendi left, while Dalinar and Sadeas are each down 2 (including the Sadeas prince)


Exactly what I was about to get at. The initial number speculation of 4-4-4-7 has to be wrong if he factions mirror each other, and they should. So, your numbers appear correct from there.

Based on that, I think we should be hunting the last surviving Parshendi. With PS confirming to Ano (by mistake) that gemhearts have a function earlier, then they could be getting several per day without having to worry about 2/3 highprinces contesting the plateaus.


So rather than hunt the last surviving member of Thanadar, you would rather go after two parshendi? Would this not suggest you are the last Thanadar?


I'm leaning towards agreeing that a battalionlord is responsible for NKs, if that is the case, then what threat is a captain, really? Same principal as what Sorrit is saying. So am I Tharandar? No, and based on your reaction I doubt you are either, so I guess OE did owe you an apology. I'd just rather go after more of a power role.




So since two of the four big boys are dead, and you want to go after big boys, you are not Dalinor or Parshendi. Therefore you are Thanadar or Sadeas. Because you pushed for a Parshendi hunt rather than finishing off Thanadar I think you are the last Thanadar. Therefore to further the interests of my faction:

vote Osserc

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 06:39 AM

See, you are going to get some blow-back. It makes the game interesting though, so like I said, I'm quite glad you just made your claim. Game is fun now!

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 06:42 AM

View PostAnomandaris, on 26 February 2013 - 06:27 AM, said:

View PostSilanah, on 26 February 2013 - 06:25 AM, said:

View PostOlar Ethil, on 26 February 2013 - 06:13 AM, said:

View PostOsseric, on 26 February 2013 - 06:09 AM, said:

View PostOlar Ethil, on 26 February 2013 - 06:00 AM, said:

Ah what the hell. Battalion lords are killers right? Certainly seemed that way, since Lio (a batlord) was lynched day 2 and then we only had 3 NKs instead of 4.

Well Ano is the Dalinar battalion lord. Enjoy!


The other possibility is that captain can kill based on the night 1 loss of a captain. Either way, it's one of the two. Anyway, can you share how you know what you claim? That seems out if the blue.


I'll wait and let the reactions accumulate first. Always more fun and more revealing that way.


Or, "I actually know jack shit - just trying to spread a bit of confusion coz I'm under pressure here".


The strange this is that OE isn't under pressure. Which makes the false claim more confusing.


Well, If he's Thanadar or Parshendi he is under pressure. If we assume the mirrored prince factions and therefore only four Parshendi those two factions are feeling the heat. After stating my belief that Osserc as the last Thanadar I would say OE is Parshendi and would be the next candidate to investigate. By that I mean investigate with extreme prejudice!

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