Tulas Shorn, on 20 February 2013 - 02:52 AM, said:
Korvalain, on 20 February 2013 - 02:13 AM, said:
Osseric, on 20 February 2013 - 02:03 AM, said:
Meanas, on 20 February 2013 - 01:54 AM, said:
Tulas Shorn, on 19 February 2013 - 08:39 PM, said:
However, I may have misunderstood the OP and game setup, but I figured there were three teams of 6 and one Parshendi. Why would a Parshendi signal to anyone? I'm just going by the very specific numbers - 19 or 22 players. I suppose it could be three teams of 5 with 4 Parshendi, but I just figured the Parshendi would be a recruiter. This is complete speculation, of course, but that's what I took away from the information we were given on the game.
I missed this the first time through.
What in the OP is giving you the idea that there would only be 1 Parshindi and a recruiter??
I actually meant to address this too, cause it seemed odd and I definitely didn't get that read from the OP. In the book, the Parshendi are their own
army (as in a ton of them) fighting against the highprinces (who are also squabbling amongst themselves). To be a one man army would be absurd. Similarly, I highly doubt they'd be able to recruit humans, though there could always be creative liberty for the game.
That's where book knowledge would help. I haven't read it, so I have no idea whether or not it makes sense for the Parshendi to recruit.
Yeah, same here. I was just speculating based on the game numbers. Given that the Parshendi are their own army, it could just as easily be 3 teams of 4, with Parshendi being 7 players. That sounds like it would be more in line with what Korvalain has said about the book.
Olar Ethil, on 20 February 2013 - 04:52 AM, said:
Okay, so the Parsh doesn't sound like it can be a one-man faction, then.
The numbers stated in sign-up were 19 or 22. How about 4-4-4-7 or 5-5-5-7, with the 7 being the Parshs?
Meanas, on 20 February 2013 - 04:20 PM, said:
Liosan and Amp have played rather stupidly If they have a lover connection
Is it still night?
And I don't care about going any further wasting time on the 22 mechanics. We're in the 19. We all agree that the princes would start evenly matched. So 18+1, 15+4, or 12+7.
15+4 just seems mosy likely.
Fener, on 20 February 2013 - 04:20 PM, said:
Liosan, on 20 February 2013 - 04:10 PM, said:
You think the Princes' factions will be that big? The Parshenddi have to counter the Princes somehow. There's a lot we don't know re the Gemstones and what happened before timeout yesterday.
Why would the Parshendi need more numbers than princes? it's not like the princes are allied is it? I myself think a 5-5-5-4 distribution is more likely.
Kaschan, on 20 February 2013 - 11:09 PM, said:
Telas, on 20 February 2013 - 09:05 PM, said:
A different theory on the Parshendi:
I think that the lack of title for Bru's character indicates that he was one of a more RI predominant faction. I would be more inclined to think a 4,4,4,7 with the Parshendi having maybe one figure head and then 3 pairs of players. This would be balanced if everyone in the prince factions had titles and assigned skills while the Parshendi had the lynching bias.
As for questions regarding my reaction to the recruiter comment:
Firstly, the idea of a recruiter in this game is patently ridiculous, so being potentially associated with such a comment is alarming. If you take my reaction in the context of a name misread, I would hazard it makes more sense. But I'll probably get lynched for it at any rate (go after the vocal ones).
While I do agree that recruitment probably isn't a mechanic in this game, I don't agree that the Parshendi are a 7 person faction. The day scene from PS doesn't jive with your scenario.
Karosis, on 21 February 2013 - 02:16 PM, said:
Liosan, on 20 February 2013 - 02:40 PM, said:
The Factions:
Highprince Thandar's Camp
Highprince Dalinar Kholin's Camp
Highprince Sadeas's Camp
The Parshendi
It doesn't mention cult. He even says it is a faction game yet you bring up recruitment. This wasn't hinted at anywhere. So not so stupid.
The Highprince's are all on the same side in the book even though they are competing for the Gemstones. The Parshendi are the main force set against them. This is early on in the books and he specifically said no Kaladin meaning joint assault will be out of the question. Also to note that the Parshendi field the same numbers as any one of the Highprince's armies. That said, say each faction had 3 people. (9). Then the Parshendi would need 9 people minimum to go against that set up. The Parshendi are the odd faction out so I would say that they would have the numerous numbers right now. If it was 4 to a faction (12) then the rest could quite easily be Parshendi. In fact running that scenario in my head, what links 19 and 22?
4 people each faction, leaves 7 Parshendi. (19)
5 people each faction leaves 7 Parshendi. (22)
That fits. It also means that lover pairs throughout the Parshendi is a wrong way of thought. I am not saying that there isn't lover pairs but I know I am not one and you mentioned mechanics.
So the question is why 7?
Did you just admit to being a Parshendi and not having a lover connection, so therefore there must be 7 Parshendi? Is that what I can read this as?
Ruse, on 22 February 2013 - 01:43 AM, said:
Telas, on 22 February 2013 - 01:28 AM, said:
Ruse, on 22 February 2013 - 12:56 AM, said:
Well we have more time than I thought we did. Leaning towards Telas, because of the way they behaved on thread rather than the case, but I speed read the couple of pages I had to catch up on so I'll take another look. I'm also finding Fener's reaction a bit over the top. Lio makes Telas case, Fener comes on voting Lio for being stupid and stirs up a whole lot of mess. And now we have Lio as a potential lynch. Which is... interesting. Also annoying to read people acting like 7 year olds in playground. Blah.
I'll have a proper look at the thread.
And the case on me is just as flimsy as the pile up on Lio. Personally, I think that the careful one's are the power players. Moreover, lover pairs are more likely to be quite for the aforesaid reason that they do most of their talking off thread. I'd go after the quieter active one's personally, such as Osseric, Sorrit, Spite, Anomander, and the K's (Kaschan, Korvalain, and Karosis).
I thought of that, but they're just as likely to be leaders (ie, one of them could be my leader) I'm also just not buying the 7 parshendi with lover connections, that seems like way to much information when the other teams are so much lower in number and only know one other person on their team. 5,5,5,4 makes way more sense if you assume that they have lover connections. It would make more sense if it was 7 total with no lover connections, which then makes your point about finding parshendi in the quieter groups... pointless. Both are a possibility, but I just don't think that works out balancewise to have both a 7 person team AND lover connections between 6 of them. One or the other? Sure. But your breakdown just seems really off to me.
So I think I counted four '7' deniers, Kaschan being the most adamant of the 4.
As for the theory that all deniers are Parshandi, no go since Meanas was one of those 4 despite being a Prince-man.
And as for your theory about 7 signaling, also no go. Take a look at Tulas Shorn.
Edit: for --> four
This post has been edited by Telas: 22 February 2013 - 02:41 AM
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