MAFIA 100 - The Centennial Game Thread
#522
Posted 26 March 2013 - 09:28 PM
I agree that Tellan has an interesting point there, and I'm highly suspicious of Ay Estos, but then what about the existence of Bek Okhan? Just a convenient time for second alt to pop up (if D'rek wouldn't allow the Jester to keep playing after losing)? Just a little confused as to what to make of the 2 new alts, if neither are Jester.
EDIT: for clarification, as my first sentence was a total clusterfuck. tireeddddd.
EDIT: for clarification, as my first sentence was a total clusterfuck. tireeddddd.
This post has been edited by Nenanda: 26 March 2013 - 09:29 PM
#523
Posted 26 March 2013 - 09:35 PM
Tellan said:
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IThe problem I have with you is that I don't think D'rek would allow this to happen - you are basically pointless, The other problem I have is your whinyness sounds much more like Eloth than it does Aranatha. So basically I say you are bullshitting to the max, and until something better comes along
vote Ay Estos
Edit: to remove a capital B from the end of my vote.
Ay Estos said:
1364331184[/url]' post='1042364']
I currently have a Night Kill and a BP (that last one would have been useful last night!). As I said, my intention is to sit back and just throw my vote where the lynch train seems to be going. There's not much else I can do, I doubt anyone's going to listen to much I have to say given I've already lost the game.
Tellan said:
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This Ay Estos thing makes me uneasy. We only have his word for it that he was Aranatha. He is now "unaligned" and a loose cannon in terms of the game. He says he still has other abilities but "would rather help town."
What other abilities do you have and how will you contribute then?
This Ay Estos thing makes me uneasy. We only have his word for it that he was Aranatha. He is now "unaligned" and a loose cannon in terms of the game. He says he still has other abilities but "would rather help town."
What other abilities do you have and how will you contribute then?
I currently have a Night Kill and a BP (that last one would have been useful last night!). As I said, my intention is to sit back and just throw my vote where the lynch train seems to be going. There's not much else I can do, I doubt anyone's going to listen to much I have to say given I've already lost the game.
Ay Estos said:
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Sorry, I misread my role PM, it says I have a Night Kill BP, and I read it as a Night Kill and a BP. I only have a BP, and if I am recruited, I die and it counts as a lynch.
Ay Estos said:
1364331184[/url]' post='1042364']
I currently have a Night Kill and a BP (that last one would have been useful last night!). As I said, my intention is to sit back and just throw my vote where the lynch train seems to be going. There's not much else I can do, I doubt anyone's going to listen to much I have to say given I've already lost the game.
Tellan said:
1364331070[/url]' post='1042363']
This Ay Estos thing makes me uneasy. We only have his word for it that he was Aranatha. He is now "unaligned" and a loose cannon in terms of the game. He says he still has other abilities but "would rather help town."
What other abilities do you have and how will you contribute then?
This Ay Estos thing makes me uneasy. We only have his word for it that he was Aranatha. He is now "unaligned" and a loose cannon in terms of the game. He says he still has other abilities but "would rather help town."
What other abilities do you have and how will you contribute then?
I currently have a Night Kill and a BP (that last one would have been useful last night!). As I said, my intention is to sit back and just throw my vote where the lynch train seems to be going. There's not much else I can do, I doubt anyone's going to listen to much I have to say given I've already lost the game.
Sorry, I misread my role PM, it says I have a Night Kill BP, and I read it as a Night Kill and a BP. I only have a BP, and if I am recruited, I die and it counts as a lynch.
IThe problem I have with you is that I don't think D'rek would allow this to happen - you are basically pointless, The other problem I have is your whinyness sounds much more like Eloth than it does Aranatha. So basically I say you are bullshitting to the max, and until something better comes along
vote Ay Estos
Edit: to remove a capital B from the end of my vote.
I'm kind of agreeing with you here... Ay is giving us way too much information, and It sounds more like bullshit
#524
Posted 26 March 2013 - 09:46 PM
Nenanda, on 26 March 2013 - 09:28 PM, said:
I agree that Tellan has an interesting point there, and I'm highly suspicious of Ay Estos, but then what about the existence of Bek Okhan? Just a convenient time for second alt to pop up (if D'rek wouldn't allow the Jester to keep playing after losing)? Just a little confused as to what to make of the 2 new alts, if neither are Jester.
EDIT: for clarification, as my first sentence was a total clusterfuck. tireeddddd.
EDIT: for clarification, as my first sentence was a total clusterfuck. tireeddddd.
Well they both died end of day one/night one so it makes sense that they both respawned at the start of day 2. My point is we only have their word for who they were previously, and Ay Estos' "woe is me" thing reminds me of Eloth's emo attack.
#525
Posted 26 March 2013 - 09:48 PM
Tellan, on 26 March 2013 - 09:46 PM, said:
Nenanda, on 26 March 2013 - 09:28 PM, said:
I agree that Tellan has an interesting point there, and I'm highly suspicious of Ay Estos, but then what about the existence of Bek Okhan? Just a convenient time for second alt to pop up (if D'rek wouldn't allow the Jester to keep playing after losing)? Just a little confused as to what to make of the 2 new alts, if neither are Jester.
EDIT: for clarification, as my first sentence was a total clusterfuck. tireeddddd.
EDIT: for clarification, as my first sentence was a total clusterfuck. tireeddddd.
Well they both died end of day one/night one so it makes sense that they both respawned at the start of day 2. My point is we only have their word for who they were previously, and Ay Estos' "woe is me" thing reminds me of Eloth's emo attack.
Ah, ok, thanks for clarifying. Well, now i'm curious as to what Bek Okhan (still Jester? but now pointless?) has to say, if Eloth is now AE.
#526
Posted 26 March 2013 - 09:54 PM
Tellan, on 26 March 2013 - 09:04 PM, said:
Ay Estos, on 26 March 2013 - 08:53 PM, said:
Tellan, on 26 March 2013 - 08:51 PM, said:
This Ay Estos thing makes me uneasy. We only have his word for it that he was Aranatha. He is now "unaligned" and a loose cannon in terms of the game. He says he still has other abilities but "would rather help town."
What other abilities do you have and how will you contribute then?
What other abilities do you have and how will you contribute then?
I currently have a Night Kill and a BP (that last one would have been useful last night!). As I said, my intention is to sit back and just throw my vote where the lynch train seems to be going. There's not much else I can do, I doubt anyone's going to listen to much I have to say given I've already lost the game.
Ay Estos, on 26 March 2013 - 08:54 PM, said:
Ay Estos, on 26 March 2013 - 08:53 PM, said:
Tellan, on 26 March 2013 - 08:51 PM, said:
This Ay Estos thing makes me uneasy. We only have his word for it that he was Aranatha. He is now "unaligned" and a loose cannon in terms of the game. He says he still has other abilities but "would rather help town."
What other abilities do you have and how will you contribute then?
What other abilities do you have and how will you contribute then?
I currently have a Night Kill and a BP (that last one would have been useful last night!). As I said, my intention is to sit back and just throw my vote where the lynch train seems to be going. There's not much else I can do, I doubt anyone's going to listen to much I have to say given I've already lost the game.
Sorry, I misread my role PM, it says I have a Night Kill BP, and I read it as a Night Kill and a BP. I only have a BP, and if I am recruited, I die and it counts as a lynch.
IThe problem I have with you is that I don't think D'rek would allow this to happen - you are basically pointless, The other problem I have is your whinyness sounds much more like Eloth than it does Aranatha. So basically I say you are bullshitting to the max, and until something better comes along
vote Ay Estos
Edit: to remove a capital B from the end of my vote.
Take it as you will. As I said, I don't understand why I wasn't just taken out of the game, seeing as I lost, but that's what happened. There's no point in me trying to hide anything. It makes sense to lynch me to be certain, but if I read the op correctly, then you'll only get my Player name today, so you will have to lynch me a third time to be absolutely certain I am Eloth and not Aranatha, so do whatever your conscience tells you. I feel like if Bek was Aranatha, he would have come and refuted my argument pretty quickly if that were the case, though. I was around just before timeout, and then started posting just after timeout. Eloth hadn't posted since about 10 minutes before PS posted the lynch scene, and there's been no word from Bek since. Anyway, you guys are either going to believe me or you're not, there isn't much I can do beyond this to convince you otherwise if your mind is set, so I'll just sit back and watch how things go from here.
#527
Posted 26 March 2013 - 09:55 PM
Nenanda, on 26 March 2013 - 09:48 PM, said:
Tellan, on 26 March 2013 - 09:46 PM, said:
Nenanda, on 26 March 2013 - 09:28 PM, said:
I agree that Tellan has an interesting point there, and I'm highly suspicious of Ay Estos, but then what about the existence of Bek Okhan? Just a convenient time for second alt to pop up (if D'rek wouldn't allow the Jester to keep playing after losing)? Just a little confused as to what to make of the 2 new alts, if neither are Jester.
EDIT: for clarification, as my first sentence was a total clusterfuck. tireeddddd.
EDIT: for clarification, as my first sentence was a total clusterfuck. tireeddddd.
Well they both died end of day one/night one so it makes sense that they both respawned at the start of day 2. My point is we only have their word for who they were previously, and Ay Estos' "woe is me" thing reminds me of Eloth's emo attack.
Ah, ok, thanks for clarifying. Well, now i'm curious as to what Bek Okhan (still Jester? but now pointless?) has to say, if Eloth is now AE.
Well this is it, when Bek whassiface posts we'll be able to garner a little more info. The fact that Ay Estos is now silent suggests to me that he's been rumbled though.
#529
Posted 26 March 2013 - 10:00 PM
Ryllandaras, on 26 March 2013 - 12:30 PM, said:
Kilava, on 26 March 2013 - 11:42 AM, said:
Ryllandaras, on 26 March 2013 - 11:20 AM, said:
I'm caught up for today. While I agree that it is important to lynch with so many of us, why the hell is D'riss not voting?! I'm thinking he doesn't want to participate in the discussions for some reason. I could see him coming in at the end and dropping a hammer vote so he can prove he's "participating".
Strawmanning is also not really kosher either you know .
Maybe you should wait for a person to actually do those scummy things you have "predicted" BEFORE you start vilifying him?
I regularly found that scum need to use your exact strawmanish tactics more often than town since they need to... in order to make inno's look scummy.
Yes, I agree... If D'riss was worried about not lynching he should have dropped a vote. But then again there could be many innocent reasons he didnt.
But you created some kind of strawman version of Driss that all of the sudden "doesnt want to participate in the discussion"...and your reasons for this suspision of non participation? ...oh.."for SOME REASON" Thumb sucking much?
And the last line is great...now he cant even come back and place a vote, when him coming back later to place a vote is the most likely scenario to happen given his worry about lynches and his non vote...clever setup.
Im not saying D'riss is inno....im just saying that this style of subtle setup, prediction and strawman combo is classic scum play in my book.
meh
Defending D'riss much? Actually the problem I had was he raised a fuss about it being important to vote, then he said he was not going to be back for lynch and didn't vote! Holy Contradictions Batman!
I'm back and don't think I"m dead yet and catching up.
I didn't say anything about that. That was someone else. I've been fairly worthless so far. I don't really see that changing much either, lol.
I was here for 2 hours yesterday. I've got no clue what is going on. I'm not just going to fuck about and vote on someone for shit reasons just to do so.
Now to continue the catch-up!
#530
Posted 26 March 2013 - 10:00 PM
Tellan, on 26 March 2013 - 09:55 PM, said:
Nenanda, on 26 March 2013 - 09:48 PM, said:
Tellan, on 26 March 2013 - 09:46 PM, said:
Nenanda, on 26 March 2013 - 09:28 PM, said:
I agree that Tellan has an interesting point there, and I'm highly suspicious of Ay Estos, but then what about the existence of Bek Okhan? Just a convenient time for second alt to pop up (if D'rek wouldn't allow the Jester to keep playing after losing)? Just a little confused as to what to make of the 2 new alts, if neither are Jester.
EDIT: for clarification, as my first sentence was a total clusterfuck. tireeddddd.
EDIT: for clarification, as my first sentence was a total clusterfuck. tireeddddd.
Well they both died end of day one/night one so it makes sense that they both respawned at the start of day 2. My point is we only have their word for who they were previously, and Ay Estos' "woe is me" thing reminds me of Eloth's emo attack.
Ah, ok, thanks for clarifying. Well, now i'm curious as to what Bek Okhan (still Jester? but now pointless?) has to say, if Eloth is now AE.
Well this is it, when Bek whassiface posts we'll be able to garner a little more info. The fact that Ay Estos is now silent suggests to me that he's been rumbled though.
You seem awfully certain of yourselves. What's to say that even if Ay is lying, and they used to be Eloth rather than Aranatha, that they/Eloth are not town?
Edit: Does that sentence make sense? This multiple alts thing is going to get very confusing. Basically, how do we know Eloth wasn't town, and therefore, if we go by Tellan's suspicions, that Ay, too, is town - and attempting to claim Jester and harmless so that we leave them alone?
By the way, I don't believe that myself. I think Ay is telling the truth - but we'll see what Bek has to say.
This post has been edited by Ampelas: 26 March 2013 - 10:02 PM
#531
Posted 26 March 2013 - 10:06 PM
Monok Ochem, on 26 March 2013 - 02:27 PM, said:
Kilava, on 26 March 2013 - 12:56 PM, said:
Ryllandaras, on 26 March 2013 - 12:30 PM, said:
Kilava, on 26 March 2013 - 11:42 AM, said:
Ryllandaras, on 26 March 2013 - 11:20 AM, said:
I'm caught up for today. While I agree that it is important to lynch with so many of us, why the hell is D'riss not voting?! I'm thinking he doesn't want to participate in the discussions for some reason. I could see him coming in at the end and dropping a hammer vote so he can prove he's "participating".
Strawmanning is also not really kosher either you know .
Maybe you should wait for a person to actually do those scummy things you have "predicted" BEFORE you start vilifying him?
I regularly found that scum need to use your exact strawmanish tactics more often than town since they need to... in order to make inno's look scummy.
Yes, I agree... If D'riss was worried about not lynching he should have dropped a vote. But then again there could be many innocent reasons he didnt.
But you created some kind of strawman version of Driss that all of the sudden "doesnt want to participate in the discussion"...and your reasons for this suspision of non participation? ...oh.."for SOME REASON" Thumb sucking much?
And the last line is great...now he cant even come back and place a vote, when him coming back later to place a vote is the most likely scenario to happen given his worry about lynches and his non vote...clever setup.
Im not saying D'riss is inno....im just saying that this style of subtle setup, prediction and strawman combo is classic scum play in my book.
meh
Defending D'riss much? Actually the problem I had was he raised a fuss about it being important to vote, then he said he was not going to be back for lynch and didn't vote! Holy Contradictions Batman!
Yes i am "defending Driss"..oooo..aaaa...
So wut!
Divert attention much?
I am "defending" him against what i perceive to be scummy behavior... its not like he will be back to "defend" himself before days end (as you well know).
What was more important to me however was the manner in which you compounded on top of Dr'iss "mistake" (which was already previously pointed out) in a scummy strawman fashion. Your statements that he "doesnt seem to want to discuss anything" and that he will probably "come back and hammer" are unfounded and scummy strawman nonsense. So I pointed it out. And you did the diverting response of "defending D'riss much" ignoring the actual point that i was really making.
Would it not have been more prudent to simply note D'riss and see if he actually does comes back and hammers before accusing him?
Would it not be better to have more proof than "for some reason" when claiming someone doesnt seem discuss things before you start getting all finger pointy? ..all just seems a bit funny to me.
Got my eye on you... biaatch!
Here i will do some strawmanning of you and start saying things like "watch him get all huffy now, he will accuse me of symping D'riss again and ignore the real subject, because he is this and he is that, and he doesnt like it because it is true etc etc"
see how you like it.
Several comments to this line of posting. First of all, I do agree that Kilava has good points about Ryl. Ryl's case did smack of a set up and twisting words to work for his designs. I am more inclined to vote for this than Eloth's discussion of the FM, which I believe may be blown out of proportion.
I kind of agree that certain roles are less critical to lynch than others. Killing roles like the FM are the obvious target of lynches. However, the dual role should not be discounted. In the wrong hands, such a role can add longevity to scum and even provide the opportunity to beef up arguments with seeming agreement between players (two people advocating something carries more weight than the single boy crying wolf).
That being said, I disagree with Kilava's line of reasoning in regards to defending D'riss. D'riss states he will not be around for a lynch and then quotes my comment about behavior not befitting a townie. The post is done in a mocking "fuck you" tone, ending irreverently with "toodles." This can be interpreted as someone who is uninterested in the prod or by someone trying to shrug off an accusation without garnering attention (which would be suspicious in my book).
Vote Ryl
Valid points. Occam's razor is the correct answer here: It looks like I didn't care because I didn't care and had no read on anything. My vote is powerful only in that I have some small measly reason to cast it. I didn't have a reason at all. I didn't cast it.
#532
Posted 26 March 2013 - 10:09 PM
Path-Shaper, on 26 March 2013 - 08:00 PM, said:
I swallowed the last bit of my doughnut and peered at the ongoing bedlam. Prisoners bickered and fought like idiots, each claiming others were certain other "roles" using silly terms like "WIFOM" and "meta"...who were we putting in prisons these days? Jesus Christ, it's absurd! I mean, really!
But I digress. Several men gathered around the hippie brought in only the day before, intent on pounding the pothead into the dirt. Angry glowers were reflected among one and all, indifferent to his pleas.
"B-b-but, don't do it! I'm only here to save you all!"
Emurlahn chortled. "You're kidding me, right? You want to save me? I'm the fucking doctor, bitch! I'm the one doing the saving!" He cracked knuckles and produced a saw-bladed pair of binoculars. "You'll pay for stealing my role, bastard."
"What? I'm only here to help! Please! Just listen to me, find it in your hearts to believe!"
Galayn Lord guffawed and said, "Believe in what? Your ability to rescue us? Only one avenue remains for rescue, and we're already on it." A wicked grin sliced across his face and he withdrew a dagger from his pocket. "Oh, this will be fun."
Kaschan gaped at the scene for a long moment, ponderings no doubt running rampant through his head. Perhaps he could manage a 3:1 kill-death ratio?!!!!
D'riss kissed a cross on his necklace. "Please, dear Jesus, forgive me for doing this. Please."
Tennes stepped in. "God damn it, just do it already!"
Gamelon's head snapped up but crunched back from a fist's blow. The mob closed around him with their own weapons, slashing and kicking the gaunt hippie from side to side. Blood spurted and sprayed, adorning even my planted guards.
I could only watch in horror as they backed away and allowed Mockra to step atop the corpse and jump on it repeatedly.
Aranatha is dead. She was Jesus.
It is Day 2. 32 hours and 59 minutes remaining
28 Players still alive: Ampelas, Ay Estos, Bek Okhan, Bendal Home, D'riss, Demelain, Denesmet, Desra, Fanderay, Galayn Lord, Karosis, Kilava, Korbas, Korlat, Liosan, Mockra, Monok Ochem, Nenanda, Omtose, Prazec Goul, Rashan, Ryllandaras, Silchas Ruin, Skintick, Tellan, Trake, Tulas Shorn, Ultama
15 votes to lynch, 14 votes to go to night.
Players not voted: Ampelas, Ay Estos, Bek Okhan, Bendal Home, D'riss, Demelain, Denesmet, Desra, Fanderay, Galayn Lord, Karosis, Kilava, Korbas, Korlat, Liosan, Mockra, Monok Ochem, Nenanda, Omtose, Prazec Goul, Rashan, Ryllandaras, Silchas Ruin, Skintick, Tellan, Trake, Tulas Shorn, Ultama
But I digress. Several men gathered around the hippie brought in only the day before, intent on pounding the pothead into the dirt. Angry glowers were reflected among one and all, indifferent to his pleas.
"B-b-but, don't do it! I'm only here to save you all!"
Emurlahn chortled. "You're kidding me, right? You want to save me? I'm the fucking doctor, bitch! I'm the one doing the saving!" He cracked knuckles and produced a saw-bladed pair of binoculars. "You'll pay for stealing my role, bastard."
"What? I'm only here to help! Please! Just listen to me, find it in your hearts to believe!"
Galayn Lord guffawed and said, "Believe in what? Your ability to rescue us? Only one avenue remains for rescue, and we're already on it." A wicked grin sliced across his face and he withdrew a dagger from his pocket. "Oh, this will be fun."
Kaschan gaped at the scene for a long moment, ponderings no doubt running rampant through his head. Perhaps he could manage a 3:1 kill-death ratio?!!!!
D'riss kissed a cross on his necklace. "Please, dear Jesus, forgive me for doing this. Please."
Tennes stepped in. "God damn it, just do it already!"
Gamelon's head snapped up but crunched back from a fist's blow. The mob closed around him with their own weapons, slashing and kicking the gaunt hippie from side to side. Blood spurted and sprayed, adorning even my planted guards.
I could only watch in horror as they backed away and allowed Mockra to step atop the corpse and jump on it repeatedly.
Aranatha is dead. She was Jesus.
It is Day 2. 32 hours and 59 minutes remaining
28 Players still alive: Ampelas, Ay Estos, Bek Okhan, Bendal Home, D'riss, Demelain, Denesmet, Desra, Fanderay, Galayn Lord, Karosis, Kilava, Korbas, Korlat, Liosan, Mockra, Monok Ochem, Nenanda, Omtose, Prazec Goul, Rashan, Ryllandaras, Silchas Ruin, Skintick, Tellan, Trake, Tulas Shorn, Ultama
15 votes to lynch, 14 votes to go to night.
Players not voted: Ampelas, Ay Estos, Bek Okhan, Bendal Home, D'riss, Demelain, Denesmet, Desra, Fanderay, Galayn Lord, Karosis, Kilava, Korbas, Korlat, Liosan, Mockra, Monok Ochem, Nenanda, Omtose, Prazec Goul, Rashan, Ryllandaras, Silchas Ruin, Skintick, Tellan, Trake, Tulas Shorn, Ultama
Just FYI:
Jesus:
Hey there, Jesus! God’s sent you down for a second coming, only this time things are different. Considering how performing miracles left and right got you killed last time, now you’re just like any other hippie out there. Too bad God forgot half the world worships you now—oops. Looks like you’ll just have to make do. But hey, you’re Jesus, right? You can do whatever the fuck you want! As long as you don’t get crucified again; dying really sucks…
Maybe if you asked God?
You are a jester. If you are lynched, God smites everyone and you win the game.
If you are NKed or vigged, you lose. =( Sorry, Jesus.
You will return as Not Guilty when the subject of a find.
#534
Posted 26 March 2013 - 10:13 PM
Eloth, on 26 March 2013 - 04:57 PM, said:
Desra, on 26 March 2013 - 04:49 PM, said:
I don't think a train built for nothing. While other people did in fact bring up the FM you continued to feel it necessary to point out that the SK isn't necessarily a FM and vise versa. You repeatedly went out of your way to say it. Why? I assume you are aware of the Mafia "rule" that states he who speculates on a role is likely affected by it. Most people would have left well enough alone, but you kept hammering away that the SK wasn't necessarily a FM. It stuck out to me as very odd. Combine that with the fact that you admit that you have 3 roles all with abilities. I've seen worse day 1 cases.
This is such a load of crap. This game is built to have all kinds of roles with abilities. Anyone who thinks that someone's gonna get a RI in this game is a complete idiot. Everyone will have 3 roles with abilities, even if some of those abilities are as simple as a NK ability, or a Guard, or a Heal.
Ruh-roh shaggy. You just gave up a lot of information inadvertently right there. This alt right here is pretty much worthless. So is my second alt. The third one is fun, though.
#535
Posted 26 March 2013 - 10:18 PM
Aranatha, on 26 March 2013 - 05:15 PM, said:
That being said, I can see the reasonong behind Eloth votes. I just don't find it convincing.
And for whomever accused me of being a jester--I do dkt-style catchups. ANd then I was the only one playing and bored, so I posted 5 times in a row. oh noes.
And for whomever accused me of being a jester--I do dkt-style catchups. ANd then I was the only one playing and bored, so I posted 5 times in a row. oh noes.
More fucking up by me with the dkt posting catch-up. Yay!
#536
Posted 26 March 2013 - 10:29 PM
Desra, on 26 March 2013 - 05:57 PM, said:
Aranatha, on 26 March 2013 - 05:47 PM, said:
Eloth, on 26 March 2013 - 05:45 PM, said:
Desra, on 26 March 2013 - 04:59 PM, said:
Eloth, on 26 March 2013 - 02:38 PM, said:
As Mockra later pointed out, it is very clearly stated in the OP that only one of the four factions can win. This is deliberate misreading, whereas the case against me rests on my telling people that it's not safe to assume there's a FM, or that the SK MUST be a FM.
It isn't, in fact ,"clearly stated" It took me a couple read throughs to see. You painting it as deliberate misreading is self serving. Then again you are on the chopping block, so I suppose that's to be expected. I am not sure if thats indicative of you being scum, or being under lynch pressure.
I'm sorry that some people have problems with reading comprehension, cause I read the OP once, and I knew that only one of the factions could win. I always underestimate the stupidity of the Mafia player. C'est la vie.
I guess you guys are all set on lynching me over stupidities, but hey, I guess that's Mafias. I believe this will be my last game for a while, it's like the 3rd or 4th game in a row that I get voted out in the first few days for actually trying to discuss the game. I refuse to play a game of Mafia just sitting there and hoping other people will start the conversation, so if that makes me scummy, which to all you assholes, apparently it does, then so be it.
I'll see yall tomorrow, in another alt, with another role, and I imagine you guys will all catch me on something as stupid as responding to the fact that people are assuming things they shouldn't be, and lynch me for that fucking dumb reason to. In short, fuck you all.
I find myself actually sympathising with Eloth here, both as a player and as a mod. The VCs were pretty obvious.
You guys are missing the point. whether or not it was "pretty obvious" or whether it took someone 42 times to read it and figure it out. That wasn't the point. The point was that Eloth said, and used to emphasize his point, the fact that there was "deliberate misreading" . He stated it as fact to prove his point, when, in fact, no one knows this other than the person he accused. He is slanting statements, presenting conjecture as fact. THAT is what I was trying to point out. THAT is what I find more scummy. Call people stupid all you want, but don't present your interpretations of their actions as fact, and then base your point upon that "fact" It doesn't work like that. It just makes you look bad or makes it look like you have an agenda.
Of course Eloth has an agenda. They don't want to get lynched. Anyone is better than them for a target. If you have to twist things a little bit, so be it. I'll own up to assuming the set-up read as the four factions winning conditions without reading on to the conclusion. The fact that scum was listed as HAVING to eliminate the other scum team while town did not made it pretty simple for me. If you are going to put that corollary for one "side" of the town v. scum match-up, why not the other? I should have kept reading obviously. Now I know better.
#537
Posted 26 March 2013 - 10:30 PM
Ampelas, on 26 March 2013 - 10:00 PM, said:
Tellan, on 26 March 2013 - 09:55 PM, said:
Nenanda, on 26 March 2013 - 09:48 PM, said:
Tellan, on 26 March 2013 - 09:46 PM, said:
Nenanda, on 26 March 2013 - 09:28 PM, said:
I agree that Tellan has an interesting point there, and I'm highly suspicious of Ay Estos, but then what about the existence of Bek Okhan? Just a convenient time for second alt to pop up (if D'rek wouldn't allow the Jester to keep playing after losing)? Just a little confused as to what to make of the 2 new alts, if neither are Jester.
EDIT: for clarification, as my first sentence was a total clusterfuck. tireeddddd.
EDIT: for clarification, as my first sentence was a total clusterfuck. tireeddddd.
Well they both died end of day one/night one so it makes sense that they both respawned at the start of day 2. My point is we only have their word for who they were previously, and Ay Estos' "woe is me" thing reminds me of Eloth's emo attack.
Ah, ok, thanks for clarifying. Well, now i'm curious as to what Bek Okhan (still Jester? but now pointless?) has to say, if Eloth is now AE.
Well this is it, when Bek whassiface posts we'll be able to garner a little more info. The fact that Ay Estos is now silent suggests to me that he's been rumbled though.
You seem awfully certain of yourselves. What's to say that even if Ay is lying, and they used to be Eloth rather than Aranatha, that they/Eloth are not town?
Edit: Does that sentence make sense? This multiple alts thing is going to get very confusing. Basically, how do we know Eloth wasn't town, and therefore, if we go by Tellan's suspicions, that Ay, too, is town - and attempting to claim Jester and harmless so that we leave them alone?
By the way, I don't believe that myself. I think Ay is telling the truth - but we'll see what Bek has to say.
I really don't understand this post at all - you are contradicting yourself.
To make it clear, my reasoning is as follows:
Ay Estos has just claimed he's the Jester and Aranatha. He also says he is now pointless in the game and told us about a couple of abilities he has.
I called bullshit on this because 1) he sounded whiny like Eloth, not Aranatha, 2) I don't think we'd have an unaligned roleless player in the game who, as he himself indicated, is just going to jump on any lynch train he fancies. Doesn't make sense.
So lying or pointless, he's a guy worthy of my vote.
#538
Posted 26 March 2013 - 10:32 PM
Interesting post-mortem on the Eloth/Isabella character. In retrospect, a lot of detail was given on the ToD and MH Path-Shaper intros, but the conversation about the Spycraft thing was notably circumspect, as if trying to distance him/herself from the information itself.
Also as a side note, makes me wonder if Amp is doing some distancing of his own.
I am thinking that it's the latter, but who knows! I mean, there's no dinari in this game, as far as I know, nor is there a bazaar, so I am thinking that the Tax Collector message shows us that the Tax Collector is in the game. That being said - there are no role spoilers for ToD on the forum, so no idea what, exactly, the Tax Collector is meant to be able to do.
I'm figuring the Meng Huo thing shows us that Meng Huo is in the game, which could mean that 2 of the 18 currently logged on alts probably belong to one person (Khell was both Meng Huo and someone else in the game I was able to dig up with Meng Huo as a playable character). That being said, I haven't really dug extra deeply into that game, and it was before my time, so I don't really know much about the whole 'captured x amount of times thing.'
And the levels thing, I found the game it's from, so I am assuming that anyone who has a role from that game will get more and more abilities as levels go up.
This is most exciting! Will we unlock special abilities? Get a new piece of the map to play in? Shiny new armour that has no real functionality but is BLUE?! I am quite simply overcome with joy at the prospects of this unknown!
Levelling
I think the notices are for the benefit of the person or people with that particular role. I don't think we will be "promoted" and have hidden abilities given to us. Whatever is in your PM will be what you have.
That's kind of intense, if it's true that people get more abilities as the thread levels up, then shouldn't we try not to post much so as to keep them from gaining too many abilities and becoming harder to kill?
I'm going to have to look deeper into the game, see what kind of abilities those characters have.
Also as a side note, makes me wonder if Amp is doing some distancing of his own.
Eloth, on 25 March 2013 - 04:42 PM, said:
Ampelas, on 25 March 2013 - 04:34 PM, said:
Also, I am totally lost by the PS posts. Unless they're not meant to indicate events happening in the game, as they did in the games they come from, but are just designed to show us that those particular characters are currently playing in this game.
I am thinking that it's the latter, but who knows! I mean, there's no dinari in this game, as far as I know, nor is there a bazaar, so I am thinking that the Tax Collector message shows us that the Tax Collector is in the game. That being said - there are no role spoilers for ToD on the forum, so no idea what, exactly, the Tax Collector is meant to be able to do.
I'm figuring the Meng Huo thing shows us that Meng Huo is in the game, which could mean that 2 of the 18 currently logged on alts probably belong to one person (Khell was both Meng Huo and someone else in the game I was able to dig up with Meng Huo as a playable character). That being said, I haven't really dug extra deeply into that game, and it was before my time, so I don't really know much about the whole 'captured x amount of times thing.'
And the levels thing, I found the game it's from, so I am assuming that anyone who has a role from that game will get more and more abilities as levels go up.
Eloth, on 25 March 2013 - 04:44 PM, said:
Karosis, on 25 March 2013 - 04:40 PM, said:
Ryllandaras, on 25 March 2013 - 04:31 PM, said:
Path-Shaper, on 25 March 2013 - 02:16 PM, said:
Everyone is level 0, 500 posts are required for level 1.
(I will not be tracking this with every single mod update like in the original game)
(I will not be tracking this with every single mod update like in the original game)
This is most exciting! Will we unlock special abilities? Get a new piece of the map to play in? Shiny new armour that has no real functionality but is BLUE?! I am quite simply overcome with joy at the prospects of this unknown!
Levelling
I think the notices are for the benefit of the person or people with that particular role. I don't think we will be "promoted" and have hidden abilities given to us. Whatever is in your PM will be what you have.
That's kind of intense, if it's true that people get more abilities as the thread levels up, then shouldn't we try not to post much so as to keep them from gaining too many abilities and becoming harder to kill?
I'm going to have to look deeper into the game, see what kind of abilities those characters have.
#539
Posted 26 March 2013 - 10:33 PM
Jester has lost the game so maybe he might let "Eloth" hide behind his identity? We are waiting for the check in of the other alt in other words.
#540
Posted 26 March 2013 - 10:35 PM
Trake, on 26 March 2013 - 06:15 PM, said:
So I'm sick and having some trouble following the discussions on the last few pages. I'll comment on some stuff that has caught my eye along the catch up.
Hmmmm I wonder who the person trying to get to 500 posts is.
Should be easy enough to spot this person early on with high number of posts. Though, it may be more important to consider what role this move is associated with. Some of the more seasoned mafia players may be able to bring up some thoughts on past games that involved this mechanic. It may be directly associated with a particular faction.
This is such a non-townie statement, btw.
Ok.
Sorry guys, I'll just suck at being town over here while the rest of you continue to be aces at it.
Something about the above post bothered me when reading it. For some reason, it seems... suspicious. Accused, D'riss plays it off as being either a bad town, or -- sarcastically -- a better town than those claiming otherwise. So, In case we didn't miss it, D'riss is saying that he is town everyone! Seems like he's trying too hard to look inno here.
vote D'riss
I realize there's a whole Eloth thing going on, which I don't really feel is all that strong. So I'll leave my vote on D'riss for now. I don't intent to play mafia much today (going to sleep off this fucking flu).
Desra, on 25 March 2013 - 11:26 PM, said:
Hmmmm I wonder who the person trying to get to 500 posts is.
Should be easy enough to spot this person early on with high number of posts. Though, it may be more important to consider what role this move is associated with. Some of the more seasoned mafia players may be able to bring up some thoughts on past games that involved this mechanic. It may be directly associated with a particular faction.
D, on 26 March 2013 - 02:26 AM, said:
Monok Ochem, on 26 March 2013 - 02:21 AM, said:
D, on 26 March 2013 - 12:48 AM, said:
So... the two town teams. Flavor or not? Both win as all-around "town", unlike scum teams.
Flavor = Just to name them after the Malazan writers.
Non-flavor = Grouped together in some pattern for a reason.
I'm leaning non-flavor right now because it makes no sense.
Flavor = Just to name them after the Malazan writers.
Non-flavor = Grouped together in some pattern for a reason.
I'm leaning non-flavor right now because it makes no sense.
This is such a non-townie statement, btw.
Ok.
Sorry guys, I'll just suck at being town over here while the rest of you continue to be aces at it.
Something about the above post bothered me when reading it. For some reason, it seems... suspicious. Accused, D'riss plays it off as being either a bad town, or -- sarcastically -- a better town than those claiming otherwise. So, In case we didn't miss it, D'riss is saying that he is town everyone! Seems like he's trying too hard to look inno here.
vote D'riss
I realize there's a whole Eloth thing going on, which I don't really feel is all that strong. So I'll leave my vote on D'riss for now. I don't intent to play mafia much today (going to sleep off this fucking flu).
The sarcasm is because my statement is "not-townie." What the fuck does that mean? Why is it not a townie statement? I was asking a question that evidently showed that I had misread the whole town v. town faction battle that is to come, so I'm glad I did as at least now I know. I suppose I could just go around and attack other players making statements with the simple "that's not townie" and mosey on along my fucking way without any clarification whatsoever. Instead, I made the proactive choice to see if anyone had the same (incorrect I now know) view of the game which clarified it for me.
Good lord.
This is an easy as vote to cast and seems like you are trying to tag on along with other people. It's first day lynch though so who gives a fuck, right?