[Tulas Shorn]

I'll be here off and on for the next 3-4 hrs. I do have info from the past night to share. It will be.... Enlightening. Don't speed lynch me just yet. When I have time to sit and post and not do drive by postings, ill lay it out.

[Nimander Golit]

i am able to hide behind a player each night, any actions against me will hit him instead, and any action against him will hit me instead.

I figured that if he is invincible to kills...noone will waste a NK on him keeoing me safe from any NK's.

I am not a shield...i cannot be recruited.

[Tulas Shorn]

I don't suppose you have a LP you wanna lend me?

[Korvalain]

Nimander Golit, on 17 April 2013 - 06:48 AM, said:

i am able to hide behind a player each night, any actions against me will hit him instead, and any action against him will hit me instead.

I figured that if he is invincible to kills...noone will waste a NK on him keeoing me safe from any NK's.

I am not a shield...i cannot be recruited.

I'm not really doubting you nimander, as survivor you can win with any faction, so you probably are looking to help out the strongest team to victory at this point, just wondering who that is, better yet who you think that is
Ive got no problem with you if you have no problem with me, but please tell us, the thread, about a vig, either day or night
You will admit the survivor can kill, has killed, has killed someone very recently
Or am I confusing you with a different independent?
I just want to see how you'd answer this question it you don't mind that is

It looks like we had a stray kill from a faction: independent but SK promised to work with the town against the scum
So what does nimander want? To help town for protection? Help scum for the same? Help Fener to be helped by him in return?

I can't say I wouldn't like his protection but as Tulas claimed of me, I didn't 'back' fener, I just happen to like the guy
If I knew definitely who his last shield was I'd have to go ahead and vote for him or her, but until then I have no problem with Fener, I'd like to stay on his good side , avoid his anger, only good business

A lynch option is ghennan but the scum team he isn't on will probably take him out since he's on last alt

don't ask me about togg , I don't know , not sure who or what he is or if he can be lynched or NKed

Shel lore was probably grasp/mekin so I don't want to really mess with that one

I have questions about korabas, aparal forge, and okral lom , does anyone have any thoughts on these alts?
Don't get me wrong I'm not saying their scummy or townie or anything really , just wondering if anyone has thoughts on them

Dejim, someone said claimed to be spite , do we think spite as king duosi or whatever was scum or town?
Same question for ampelas

Those are the ones with no faction in their cf
Can't remember which day Galain spawned , around 11 maybe

[Nimander Golit]

Tulas Shorn, on 17 April 2013 - 06:51 AM, said:

I don't suppose you have a LP you wanna lend me?

yea sure... check your PM box. Ill mail it to you.

[Tulas Shorn]

Korv, I'll I have some answers when I can post more, in a few hrs.

[Korvalain]

Tulas Shorn, on 17 April 2013 - 06:51 AM, said:

I don't suppose you have a LP you wanna lend me?

I think your fate is in your own hands Tulas , you need to tell us something

Many of us have protected you from lynches quite a bit these last days, so please return the favor , help sooth feelings of mistrust , scum still want you lynched , town is starting to doubt you , you're the one who can fix this

It's not as if you're not who people are saying you are , not like you're actually part of one of the scum teams instead, especially since at least one of the scum teams wants you lynched , the other pretends to want the same, or maybe not pretending after all , town think you're either the SK helping town or town yourself

No one is dispelling your smoke-screen identity , but don't you agree you should give somebody something
You don't want to get on a specific factions bad side , but you can't keep sitting dead center , you need to lean one way or the other publicly if you want to continue getting help , because it's looking like you're no longer either useful to anyone particular, or no longer care
I'm not trying to tell you what to do , just give you advice on a possible path to continue forward under potentially positive circumstances
Maybe give that information you said you would share and whichever group of people benefits will see the value in your continued assistance and would want to continue to protect such a valuable source of information and other assistance

[Nimander Golit]

Korvalain, on 17 April 2013 - 07:42 AM, said:

Nimander Golit, on 17 April 2013 - 06:48 AM, said:

i am able to hide behind a player each night, any actions against me will hit him instead, and any action against him will hit me instead.

I figured that if he is invincible to kills...noone will waste a NK on him keeoing me safe from any NK's.

I am not a shield...i cannot be recruited.

I'm not really doubting you nimander, as survivor you can win with any faction, so you probably are looking to help out the strongest team to victory at this point, just wondering who that is, better yet who you think that is

I havent the foggiest who has the upper hand or not....i have no idea of any factions size or who is actually dominating numbers wise.
Im just...surviving and waiting and seeing.

Korvalain, on 17 April 2013 - 07:42 AM, said:

Ive got no problem with you if you have no problem with me, but please tell us, the thread, about a vig, either day or night
You will admit the survivor can kill, has killed, has killed someone very recently
Or am I confusing you with a different independent?
I just want to see how you'd answer this question it you don't mind that is

I cant kill. I'm a survior.
only way i could "kill" is if someone else tries to kill me....that kill would get redirected to the person i am hiding behind.

Korvalain, on 17 April 2013 - 07:42 AM, said:

It looks like we had a stray kill from a faction: independent but SK promised to work with the town against the scum
So what does nimander want? To help town for protection? Help scum for the same? Help Fener to be helped by him in return?

Like I say, im just here...surviving...plodding along.
While fener is around he was convenient to hide behind. Now...not so much.
In the end, i win with whoever wins...so i dont need to influence one way or another....i simply need to survive.

Korvalain, on 17 April 2013 - 07:42 AM, said:

I can't say I wouldn't like his protection but as Tulas claimed of me, I didn't 'back' fener, I just happen to like the guy
If I knew definitely who his last shield was I'd have to go ahead and vote for him or her, but until then I have no problem with Fener, I'd like to stay on his good side , avoid his anger, only good business

sure...makes sense

[Nimander Golit]

Dejim Nebrahl, on 17 April 2013 - 03:09 AM, said:

The meat behind it is my action was directed at Fener. I received information on both Fener and Nimander. For no reason whatsoever.

would be kind of retarded if a find type action on fener would reveal his shield no?..hehehe

[Korvalain]

Nimander Golit, on 17 April 2013 - 08:04 AM, said:

Dejim Nebrahl, on 17 April 2013 - 03:09 AM, said:

The meat behind it is my action was directed at Fener. I received information on both Fener and Nimander. For no reason whatsoever.

would be kind of retarded if a find type action on fener would reveal his shield no?..hehehe

I don't think an independent would be a shield , it probably has to stay within Fener's faction , even though anything is possible , his last two shields were Meyern, right , I can't see why the last one wouldn't be, then again who knows with this game , even the PS post says shields dont know each other , only Fener knows them , no telling who or how they were picked , were they picked from meyern recruits, or did picking someone as shield turn them meyern ,
Will any of this information help us solve the case of the last , unknown shield ?

Here's all I got , then I'm leaving Fener and co. alone , I remember warning either Pran Chole, or silinah respawn or I don't remember , warned them not to piss off the powerful if you don't have to , whoever that person was ignored advice and told Fener and co to fuck off , then died same night , so yeah , I'm not taking same chance

Back to my thought on Fener shield number 3

Day 5
It is Day 5. 33 Hours and 00 Minutes remaining. 27 Players stillalive: Ampelas,BendalHome,D'riss, Demelain, Denul, Desra, Fanderay, Gait, Karosis, Korbas, Korlat, Liosan, Meanas, Olar Ethil, Omtose, Pallid, Pran Chole, Prazec Goul, Rashan, Silanah,Silchas Ruin, Sorrit, Spite, Tennes, Trake, TulasShorn, Ultama

The underlined are the two known shields of Fener , both already spawned on day matrix reloaded, but one day before Fener arrives , would he have arrived next day if Amon hadn't died , what about Meanas/shen pei?

Therefore it is quite simple to crack the shield choice pattern - will be from the day 5 list , seems to be following a pattern , Tennes ............ Trake ........... Both shields ......... Must be the 't' names from the day before Fener spawns , must be Tulas Shorn the SK shield!

He's the only one left from the time frame , not that the last shield has to be from day 5 names , then again if it isn't , then it could be anyone , literally

Fener is actually the last shield and togg is really Tyrant Steve ?
Fener is really the SK and killing by making shields?
Togg is really the SK and Ryll was his first alt ?
Togg is not dreadfather but nicodemus or other dresden role?
Shel lore is the final shield , having been a shield as trake, then 3 lives as mekin, now on last role as final shield?
The SK has something to do with the spirit world from Espers game?
We're going to feel like idiots for never bothering to test lynching Prazec ?

None of this has a shred of truth to it? This one most likely , ignore off the wall theories and and giant post filled with mostly crap , unless you're bright enough to pick out the little nugget of truth hidden in amongst the mess
About time for me to head home , be back tomor

[Fener]

Nimander Golit, on 17 April 2013 - 07:59 AM, said:

Korvalain, on 17 April 2013 - 07:42 AM, said:

Nimander Golit, on 17 April 2013 - 06:48 AM, said:

i am able to hide behind a player each night, any actions against me will hit him instead, and any action against him will hit me instead.

I figured that if he is invincible to kills...noone will waste a NK on him keeoing me safe from any NK's.

I am not a shield...i cannot be recruited.

I'm not really doubting you nimander, as survivor you can win with any faction, so you probably are looking to help out the strongest team to victory at this point, just wondering who that is, better yet who you think that is

I havent the foggiest who has the upper hand or not....i have no idea of any factions size or who is actually dominating numbers wise.
Im just...surviving and waiting and seeing.

Korvalain, on 17 April 2013 - 07:42 AM, said:

Ive got no problem with you if you have no problem with me, but please tell us, the thread, about a vig, either day or night
You will admit the survivor can kill, has killed, has killed someone very recently
Or am I confusing you with a different independent?
I just want to see how you'd answer this question it you don't mind that is

I cant kill. I'm a survior.
only way i could "kill" is if someone else tries to kill me....that kill would get redirected to the person i am hiding behind.

Korvalain, on 17 April 2013 - 07:42 AM, said:

It looks like we had a stray kill from a faction: independent but SK promised to work with the town against the scum
So what does nimander want? To help town for protection? Help scum for the same? Help Fener to be helped by him in return?

Like I say, im just here...surviving...plodding along.
While fener is around he was convenient to hide behind. Now...not so much.
In the end, i win with whoever wins...so i dont need to influence one way or another....i simply need to survive.

Korvalain, on 17 April 2013 - 07:42 AM, said:

I can't say I wouldn't like his protection but as Tulas claimed of me, I didn't 'back' fener, I just happen to like the guy
If I knew definitely who his last shield was I'd have to go ahead and vote for him or her, but until then I have no problem with Fener, I'd like to stay on his good side , avoid his anger, only good business

sure...makes sense

The only thing I have to say to all of this, is why did someone send me a message the other night saying that you were scum? I assumed that they wanted me to NK you, but I don't believe everything that I read so I tossed that in the junk mail pile.

[Galain]

Vote Tulas Shorn.

Again. and I'm not changing my vote this time. We have to at least kill his first alt.

[Nimander Golit]

Fener, on 17 April 2013 - 10:34 AM, said:

Nimander Golit, on 17 April 2013 - 07:59 AM, said:

Korvalain, on 17 April 2013 - 07:42 AM, said:

Nimander Golit, on 17 April 2013 - 06:48 AM, said:

i am able to hide behind a player each night, any actions against me will hit him instead, and any action against him will hit me instead.

I figured that if he is invincible to kills...noone will waste a NK on him keeoing me safe from any NK's.

I am not a shield...i cannot be recruited.

I'm not really doubting you nimander, as survivor you can win with any faction, so you probably are looking to help out the strongest team to victory at this point, just wondering who that is, better yet who you think that is

I havent the foggiest who has the upper hand or not....i have no idea of any factions size or who is actually dominating numbers wise.
Im just...surviving and waiting and seeing.

Korvalain, on 17 April 2013 - 07:42 AM, said:

Ive got no problem with you if you have no problem with me, but please tell us, the thread, about a vig, either day or night
You will admit the survivor can kill, has killed, has killed someone very recently
Or am I confusing you with a different independent?
I just want to see how you'd answer this question it you don't mind that is

I cant kill. I'm a survior.
only way i could "kill" is if someone else tries to kill me....that kill would get redirected to the person i am hiding behind.

Korvalain, on 17 April 2013 - 07:42 AM, said:

It looks like we had a stray kill from a faction: independent but SK promised to work with the town against the scum
So what does nimander want? To help town for protection? Help scum for the same? Help Fener to be helped by him in return?

Like I say, im just here...surviving...plodding along.
While fener is around he was convenient to hide behind. Now...not so much.
In the end, i win with whoever wins...so i dont need to influence one way or another....i simply need to survive.

Korvalain, on 17 April 2013 - 07:42 AM, said:

I can't say I wouldn't like his protection but as Tulas claimed of me, I didn't 'back' fener, I just happen to like the guy
If I knew definitely who his last shield was I'd have to go ahead and vote for him or her, but until then I have no problem with Fener, I'd like to stay on his good side , avoid his anger, only good business

sure...makes sense

The only thing I have to say to all of this, is why did someone send me a message the other night saying that you were scum? I assumed that they wanted me to NK you, but I don't believe everything that I read so I tossed that in the junk mail pile.

I got that message to, it said that i was a goodkinder... since i was behind you I receiving whatever you did....i found it strange.
But i assumed you didnt get the message as i thought i get the action instead of you. Wonder why it also went to you?

[Ryadd Eleis]

Using Fener as a shield - now that's irony! Love it

So, here's a question:

Did Tulas Shorn kill:

1) Liosan, and gain their ability to identify roles and see who performed what action?

OR

2) Tiamatha, and gain their ability to vig 5 people in one go?

OR

3) Is Ghennan lying about Fener having killed Merrid in order to make it look more like Tulas is aiming for townies?

[Korabas]

Path-Shaper, on 17 April 2013 - 03:05 AM, said:

The Northern Desert is Sacrosanct

Fucking ridiculous. How can there be a scum role that town can't lynch!!!!!

[Aparal Forge]

Holy crap this game is still running. :S

[Ryadd Eleis]

Aparal Forge, on 17 April 2013 - 01:30 PM, said:

Holy crap this game is still running. :S

Yep, and now it's time to contribute, Aparal!



Edit: Why would you even think it would be over?

This post has been edited by Ryadd Eleis: 17 April 2013 - 01:35 PM

[Tulas Shorn]

On the train into work. On in a bit.

[Ryadd Eleis]

Hey Prazec!

How do we get rid of Togg?



Edit: Maybe if we lynch Prazec he'll blow up and take Togg with him.

This post has been edited by Ryadd Eleis: 17 April 2013 - 01:53 PM

[Tapper]

Finally back at the PC for 30 minutes. let me see what I can do in the realm of PMs & vote counts.