[Barghast]

Bendal Home, on 05 April 2013 - 06:23 AM, said:

Barghast, on 05 April 2013 - 06:21 AM, said:

Bendal Home, on 05 April 2013 - 06:18 AM, said:

Barghast, on 05 April 2013 - 06:17 AM, said:

Bendal Home, on 05 April 2013 - 06:14 AM, said:

Barghast, on 05 April 2013 - 06:07 AM, said:

Tulas Shorn, on 05 April 2013 - 05:29 AM, said:

Barghast, on 05 April 2013 - 05:26 AM, said:

I'm down to voting for Sorrit, Lock, or Amp. In that order of desire.

But not Togg?

Well, Togg and Ano are the other two. I think Ano is D'riss, recruited scum. The reason I say Lock over Togg, is because I already offered Lock, now someone wants to swap to Togg. Just making sure no ones covering for Lock. I think Sorrit is the best bet for scum shield, he's defended known scum too often.

Night 5 - We lose Ultama(scum), Meanas(scum), Pallid(town). Pallid became Kadagar Fant. Ultama became Fener. Meanas became Togg.

Night 6 - we lose Rashan, Fanderay, Korlat.
Rashan became Emurls, Fanderay became Alkend, so Korlat is Lock.

Night 7 - lose Emurls, Gait, Kadagar Fant, Olar Ethil, Alkend, D'riss, and Desra.
Gaining Cast, Barghast, Ano. Osseric, and Serc. Not sure who is who. Too many. Olar didn't CF faction. Gait, Kadagar Fant, and Desra CF town. Lose Kadagar Fant for good. Emurls, Alkend, and D'riss CF scum. Lose Emurls for good. So of the new alts spawned day 8, 2 are town,.one unknown, and 2 scum.

Edit: fixed auto correction. 'New alts' said new slander.

I like how you added yourself in there as Gait and claimed you CFed as town when you did no such fucking thing.

Bullshit. I had one of the only roles that was definitely town. If you didn't know that, you're not town. Turing can't be recruited.

lolwut? Every town person knows your role and that you can't be recruited? I feel like you don't even realize there are two separate town factions. What game was Turing from?

This is stupid if you're town, Bendal. Kadagar Fant also CFed as Turing, and town. Why would there be one town, and one scum. I do understand how you wouldn't know Turing couldn't be recruited. Either way, I'm tossing myself out in the open. Don't make it all for naught.

What game was Turing from so I can go read the role before I believe you that you couldn't have been recruited. Your statement that 'because one alt was town, one can't have been recruited' is stupid and proves nothing.

You're right. I can buy that logic. I just seemed obvious go me, considering I was told that scum would get a bonus for killing Turing. I don't remember which game he's from. Google it, fucker. 'Mafia Alan Turing' look for malazan. Wow.

[Bendal Home]

Barghast, on 05 April 2013 - 06:27 AM, said:

Bendal Home, on 05 April 2013 - 06:20 AM, said:

Liosan, on 05 April 2013 - 06:18 AM, said:

Found it (from "the Hamlet") - I think it's the same?

Quote

Tyrant Steve


You are the ruler of a small village in a peaceful prosperous kingdom. Your father was a kind and good ruler but alas you are not. For decades your people have not had to worry about anything so they are ripe to be exploited by your evil ways. You have put together 3 citizens that are your own personal bodyguards. These are your Shields and by your own decree they remained hooded and hidden from each other and the local population. Your job is to enjoy life to the fullest. Your role and alt are known to all players at the beginning of the game
You alone know the identity of your protectors.
You cannot be lynched if even 1 loyal shield remains alive.
You can kill one player at night if you have cast at least one vote during the day.
You can at any time afflict one player with either silence or Rhyme Time. (Player must speak in Rhyme). This can be as short or as long as you want but no longer than one game day. You cannot afflict the same player on two successive times nor successive game days. Why you ask? Because you are evil and get a perverse pleasure out of tormenting your people.

Yes that looks just the same to me. Both of the roles I got that actually did anything had changes to them to make them fit in the game. I would actually like to try to lynch Fener just to see if he even has shields.

Why wouldn't he have shields? I'm not saying it can't happen, Rek is evil, but she stated he had 3, so I'd say he has 1 to 3 shields, depending on how successful his recruiting was. Maybe Amon could only recruit every other night. So nights 1,3, and 5 he recruits. He has his 3 shields to spawn on day 6. The arrival of the mothership was announced to arrive in two days on day 4, so I don't think any of the NKs had anything to do with that.

Why would he? That seems extremely powerful for this game. I'm being paranoid and worried that his faction is just claiming everyone they don't like must be his 'shields' so we lynch them and clear out the other scum faction.

Honestly at this point I would guess (guess mind you) that there were 8-9 people on each town faction and the scum factions started with 2-3 each with very powerful and/or recruiting roles. And we still have the mother fucking SK lurking about, we haven't hit them once...GIVE ME 9 VIGS A NIGHT PATH-SHAPER, DAMN YOU.

I want to hear why Sorrit thinks Ampelas and Demelain are the shields for Fener before I vote anywhere, and I want to talk, at the very least, about investigating the lowposters. Maybe I have a hard-on for Trake, but 16 posts and has been alive since the beginning of the game? Really?

[Barghast]

Bendal Home, on 05 April 2013 - 06:31 AM, said:

Barghast, on 05 April 2013 - 06:27 AM, said:

Bendal Home, on 05 April 2013 - 06:20 AM, said:

Liosan, on 05 April 2013 - 06:18 AM, said:

Found it (from "the Hamlet") - I think it's the same?

Quote

Tyrant Steve


You are the ruler of a small village in a peaceful prosperous kingdom. Your father was a kind and good ruler but alas you are not. For decades your people have not had to worry about anything so they are ripe to be exploited by your evil ways. You have put together 3 citizens that are your own personal bodyguards. These are your Shields and by your own decree they remained hooded and hidden from each other and the local population. Your job is to enjoy life to the fullest. Your role and alt are known to all players at the beginning of the game
You alone know the identity of your protectors.
You cannot be lynched if even 1 loyal shield remains alive.
You can kill one player at night if you have cast at least one vote during the day.
You can at any time afflict one player with either silence or Rhyme Time. (Player must speak in Rhyme). This can be as short or as long as you want but no longer than one game day. You cannot afflict the same player on two successive times nor successive game days. Why you ask? Because you are evil and get a perverse pleasure out of tormenting your people.

Yes that looks just the same to me. Both of the roles I got that actually did anything had changes to them to make them fit in the game. I would actually like to try to lynch Fener just to see if he even has shields.

Why wouldn't he have shields? I'm not saying it can't happen, Rek is evil, but she stated he had 3, so I'd say he has 1 to 3 shields, depending on how successful his recruiting was. Maybe Amon could only recruit every other night. So nights 1,3, and 5 he recruits. He has his 3 shields to spawn on day 6. The arrival of the mothership was announced to arrive in two days on day 4, so I don't think any of the NKs had anything to do with that.

Why would he? That seems extremely powerful for this game. I'm being paranoid and worried that his faction is just claiming everyone they don't like must be his 'shields' so we lynch them and clear out the other scum faction.

Honestly at this point I would guess (guess mind you) that there were 8-9 people on each town faction and the scum factions started with 2-3 each with very powerful and/or recruiting roles. And we still have the mother fucking SK lurking about, we haven't hit them once...GIVE ME 9 VIGS A NIGHT PATH-SHAPER, DAMN YOU.

I want to hear why Sorrit thinks Ampelas and Demelain are the shields for Fener before I vote anywhere, and I want to talk, at the very least, about investigating the lowposters. Maybe I have a hard-on for Trake, but 16 posts and has been alive since the beginning of the game? Really?

remove vote
Vote Lock

Going with Lock because I think he was Korlat. Korlat was a scum necromancer, which had a recruit mechanism in the old game. Of course there's nothing for sure to say she didn't start town, because Pran Chole is a sneaky son of a bitch, but at least I believe it to be a 3rd and final alt, so we get rid of someone.

[Bendal Home]

Barghast, on 05 April 2013 - 06:30 AM, said:

Bendal Home, on 05 April 2013 - 06:23 AM, said:

Barghast, on 05 April 2013 - 06:21 AM, said:

Bendal Home, on 05 April 2013 - 06:18 AM, said:

Barghast, on 05 April 2013 - 06:17 AM, said:

Bendal Home, on 05 April 2013 - 06:14 AM, said:

Barghast, on 05 April 2013 - 06:07 AM, said:

Tulas Shorn, on 05 April 2013 - 05:29 AM, said:

Barghast, on 05 April 2013 - 05:26 AM, said:

I'm down to voting for Sorrit, Lock, or Amp. In that order of desire.

But not Togg?

Well, Togg and Ano are the other two. I think Ano is D'riss, recruited scum. The reason I say Lock over Togg, is because I already offered Lock, now someone wants to swap to Togg. Just making sure no ones covering for Lock. I think Sorrit is the best bet for scum shield, he's defended known scum too often.

Night 5 - We lose Ultama(scum), Meanas(scum), Pallid(town). Pallid became Kadagar Fant. Ultama became Fener. Meanas became Togg.

Night 6 - we lose Rashan, Fanderay, Korlat.
Rashan became Emurls, Fanderay became Alkend, so Korlat is Lock.

Night 7 - lose Emurls, Gait, Kadagar Fant, Olar Ethil, Alkend, D'riss, and Desra.
Gaining Cast, Barghast, Ano. Osseric, and Serc. Not sure who is who. Too many. Olar didn't CF faction. Gait, Kadagar Fant, and Desra CF town. Lose Kadagar Fant for good. Emurls, Alkend, and D'riss CF scum. Lose Emurls for good. So of the new alts spawned day 8, 2 are town,.one unknown, and 2 scum.

Edit: fixed auto correction. 'New alts' said new slander.

I like how you added yourself in there as Gait and claimed you CFed as town when you did no such fucking thing.

Bullshit. I had one of the only roles that was definitely town. If you didn't know that, you're not town. Turing can't be recruited.

lolwut? Every town person knows your role and that you can't be recruited? I feel like you don't even realize there are two separate town factions. What game was Turing from?

This is stupid if you're town, Bendal. Kadagar Fant also CFed as Turing, and town. Why would there be one town, and one scum. I do understand how you wouldn't know Turing couldn't be recruited. Either way, I'm tossing myself out in the open. Don't make it all for naught.

What game was Turing from so I can go read the role before I believe you that you couldn't have been recruited. Your statement that 'because one alt was town, one can't have been recruited' is stupid and proves nothing.

You're right. I can buy that logic. I just seemed obvious go me, considering I was told that scum would get a bonus for killing Turing. I don't remember which game he's from. Google it, fucker. 'Mafia Alan Turing' look for malazan. Wow.

Hes from Bletchley Park Mafia, with Turing having no powers but being told to stay alive, and he has two doubles as well. Nothing about him being unrecruitable. Here is the entire role distribution for that game

General King, on 02 November 2009 - 03:32 PM, said:

PM's to be sent

To Turing (Tellan)

You are Alan Turing, you contribution to Bletchley is such that you are the main target.

Your objective is to stay alive. so that the work at Bletchley isn't put that far back.

To Turing Doubles (Korvalain, gamelon)

You have been selected as you look very much like Alan Turing. Your duty is to die so as he doesn't die.

To inno finder (Hood's Path)

You are a protege of Alan Turing, you are able to decode the codes that the scientists love to leave lying around.
(You're a finder)

To inno guard (Telas)

You are a guard need I say more?

To RI (Alkend, Anomandaris, Galain, Ruse, Elothe, Kaschan)

Unfortunately you are RI.

To German Killer 1 (Ampelas)

You are German killer.
You can talk to you intelligence gatherer (Mockra).

To German Finder 1 (Mockra)
You are a finder
You can talk to your killer (Ampelas).


To German Killer 2 (Serc)

You are German killer.
You can talk to you intelligence gatherer (D'riss).


To German Finder 2 (D'riss)
You are a finder
You can talk to your killer (Serc).

There is nothing there saying you are unrecruitable.

[Barghast]

Bendal Home, on 05 April 2013 - 06:39 AM, said:

Barghast, on 05 April 2013 - 06:30 AM, said:

Bendal Home, on 05 April 2013 - 06:23 AM, said:

Barghast, on 05 April 2013 - 06:21 AM, said:

Bendal Home, on 05 April 2013 - 06:18 AM, said:

Barghast, on 05 April 2013 - 06:17 AM, said:

Bendal Home, on 05 April 2013 - 06:14 AM, said:

Barghast, on 05 April 2013 - 06:07 AM, said:

Tulas Shorn, on 05 April 2013 - 05:29 AM, said:

Barghast, on 05 April 2013 - 05:26 AM, said:

I'm down to voting for Sorrit, Lock, or Amp. In that order of desire.

But not Togg?

Well, Togg and Ano are the other two. I think Ano is D'riss, recruited scum. The reason I say Lock over Togg, is because I already offered Lock, now someone wants to swap to Togg. Just making sure no ones covering for Lock. I think Sorrit is the best bet for scum shield, he's defended known scum too often.

Night 5 - We lose Ultama(scum), Meanas(scum), Pallid(town). Pallid became Kadagar Fant. Ultama became Fener. Meanas became Togg.

Night 6 - we lose Rashan, Fanderay, Korlat.
Rashan became Emurls, Fanderay became Alkend, so Korlat is Lock.

Night 7 - lose Emurls, Gait, Kadagar Fant, Olar Ethil, Alkend, D'riss, and Desra.
Gaining Cast, Barghast, Ano. Osseric, and Serc. Not sure who is who. Too many. Olar didn't CF faction. Gait, Kadagar Fant, and Desra CF town. Lose Kadagar Fant for good. Emurls, Alkend, and D'riss CF scum. Lose Emurls for good. So of the new alts spawned day 8, 2 are town,.one unknown, and 2 scum.

Edit: fixed auto correction. 'New alts' said new slander.

I like how you added yourself in there as Gait and claimed you CFed as town when you did no such fucking thing.

Bullshit. I had one of the only roles that was definitely town. If you didn't know that, you're not town. Turing can't be recruited.

lolwut? Every town person knows your role and that you can't be recruited? I feel like you don't even realize there are two separate town factions. What game was Turing from?

This is stupid if you're town, Bendal. Kadagar Fant also CFed as Turing, and town. Why would there be one town, and one scum. I do understand how you wouldn't know Turing couldn't be recruited. Either way, I'm tossing myself out in the open. Don't make it all for naught.

What game was Turing from so I can go read the role before I believe you that you couldn't have been recruited. Your statement that 'because one alt was town, one can't have been recruited' is stupid and proves nothing.

You're right. I can buy that logic. I just seemed obvious go me, considering I was told that scum would get a bonus for killing Turing. I don't remember which game he's from. Google it, fucker. 'Mafia Alan Turing' look for malazan. Wow.

Hes from Bletchley Park Mafia, with Turing having no powers but being told to stay alive, and he has two doubles as well. Nothing about him being unrecruitable. Here is the entire role distribution for that game

General King, on 02 November 2009 - 03:32 PM, said:

PM's to be sent

To Turing (Tellan)

You are Alan Turing, you contribution to Bletchley is such that you are the main target.

Your objective is to stay alive. so that the work at Bletchley isn't put that far back.

To Turing Doubles (Korvalain, gamelon)

You have been selected as you look very much like Alan Turing. Your duty is to die so as he doesn't die.

To inno finder (Hood's Path)

You are a protege of Alan Turing, you are able to decode the codes that the scientists love to leave lying around.
(You're a finder)

To inno guard (Telas)

You are a guard need I say more?

To RI (Alkend, Anomandaris, Galain, Ruse, Elothe, Kaschan)

Unfortunately you are RI.

To German Killer 1 (Ampelas)

You are German killer.
You can talk to you intelligence gatherer (Mockra).

To German Finder 1 (Mockra)
You are a finder
You can talk to your killer (Ampelas).


To German Killer 2 (Serc)

You are German killer.
You can talk to you intelligence gatherer (D'riss).


To German Finder 2 (D'riss)
You are a finder
You can talk to your killer (Serc).

There is nothing there saying you are unrecruitable.

Was there even a recruit mechanism in that fucking game? If not, why would it say 'unrecruitable.' Are you fucking with me, right now? Lol.

[Bendal Home]

Barghast, on 05 April 2013 - 06:41 AM, said:

Was there even a recruit mechanism in that fucking game? If not, why would it say 'unrecruitable.' Are you fucking with me, right now? Lol.

No, I'm not fucking with you. I'm saying you tried to softball yourself onto the town team so everyone assumes that when it isn't necessarily true and you have provided no evidence that it is true.

@Path-Shaper, is mentioning posting times of previous alts compared to current alts, without mentioning actual forum names considered meta?

[Barghast]

Bendal Home, on 05 April 2013 - 06:44 AM, said:

Barghast, on 05 April 2013 - 06:41 AM, said:

Was there even a recruit mechanism in that fucking game? If not, why would it say 'unrecruitable.' Are you fucking with me, right now? Lol.

No, I'm not fucking with you. I'm saying you tried to softball yourself onto the town team so everyone assumes that when it isn't necessarily true and you have provided no evidence that it is true.

@Path-Shaper, is mentioning posting times of previous alts compared to current alts, without mentioning actual forum names considered meta?

Yes, Bendal I said I see your point, man. Damn, I want to punch you in the face. You're right. I have no grounds to PI myself. I take if back, Jesus Christ. I'm going outside to run around the block 5 times, then smash my face into a rear window. Brb.

[Bendal Home]

Ironically, the Alan Turing look-alikes seem more like shields for Turing than anyone we have lynched would be a shield for Fener/Tyrant Steve. And, they all CF as Turing as well.

[Tulas Shorn]

Didn't ps come on and state that the tyrant was immune to na's and guards while the shields are alive? Why would she do hat if ere we're no shields? Let me go see if I can drag up the post.

[Bendal Home]

Tulas Shorn, on 05 April 2013 - 06:58 AM, said:

Didn't ps come on and state that the tyrant was immune to na's and guards while the shields are alive? Why would she do hat if ere we're no shields? Let me go see if I can drag up the post.

If they did I missed it. It would remove the whole no-shield theory and we should be shield hunting. I would think we can reasonably assume anyone who has gotten into a new alt after Fener spawned cannot be a shield, so ... almost everyone we 'know' is scum wouldn't be a shield of Feners.

[Tulas Shorn]

Path-Shaper, on 02 April 2013 - 06:06 PM, said:

and Yes, Steve the Tyrant is also immune to kills/vigs/other lethal stuff until his Shields are dead.

When a Shield dies it will be included as part of their CF.

ie: Prazec Goul is dead. He was the marshmallow man and a Shield.

Here it is. I don't think ps would do this if he didn't have shields.

[Bendal Home]

Tulas Shorn, on 05 April 2013 - 07:01 AM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 02 April 2013 - 06:06 PM, said:

and Yes, Steve the Tyrant is also immune to kills/vigs/other lethal stuff until his Shields are dead.

When a Shield dies it will be included as part of their CF.

ie: Prazec Goul is dead. He was the marshmallow man and a Shield.

Here it is. I don't think ps would do this if he didn't have shields.

Well then get your axes out, because we have to go shield hunting.

[Liosan]

Um. Well. I just googled "Sylar" and saw that he is a serial killer on the show Heroes. Disclaimer: I have not watched the show Heroes, and I have not played a Mafia game involving the role of "Sylar." I searched him on the thread and only found the one game where there were a bunch of different types of Sylar's? And a post mentioning that being Sylar was on par with being like.. pretty powerful... and not in such a good towny way? I honestly do not know if being Sylar means anything, I only know what I saw on the Heroes wiki, and I saw the words "serial killer."

So I'm probably painting a huge target on my back, and I would love to continue trying to find scum, but I'm equally concerned about the SK, and I guess I'm ignorant enough to be posting this (and I see people dying during both day AND night and/or repeatedly getting silenced, so I'd rather not have that happen before divulging the one thing I do know), but Tulas Shorn is Sylar.

Oh, and hello TS.

OTHERWISE, I still stick by thinking Fener does have shields, I suspect Amp/Togg/someone else may be them, especially with Amp's idea that ~Fener-doesn't-have-any-shields~

Anyways. I must go to bed now. :\

[Bendal Home]

So am I wrong in thinking that alts that were added to the game with or after Fener can't be his shields? Anyone take issues to that?

[Tulas Shorn]

Is there anyone on our known scum list that was alive when fender spawned?

[Bendal Home]

Liosan, on 05 April 2013 - 07:05 AM, said:

Um. Well. I just googled "Sylar" and saw that he is a serial killer on the show Heroes. Disclaimer: I have not watched the show Heroes, and I have not played a Mafia game involving the role of "Sylar." I searched him on the thread and only found the one game where there were a bunch of different types of Sylar's? And a post mentioning that being Sylar was on par with being like.. pretty powerful... and not in such a good towny way? I honestly do not know if being Sylar means anything, I only know what I saw on the Heroes wiki, and I saw the words "serial killer."

So I'm probably painting a huge target on my back, and I would love to continue trying to find scum, but I'm equally concerned about the SK, and I guess I'm ignorant enough to be posting this (and I see people dying during both day AND night and/or repeatedly getting silenced, so I'd rather not have that happen before divulging the one thing I do know), but Tulas Shorn is Sylar.

Oh, and hello TS.

OTHERWISE, I still stick by thinking Fener does have shields, I suspect Amp/Togg/someone else may be them, especially with Amp's idea that ~Fener-doesn't-have-any-shields~

Anyways. I must go to bed now. :\

I too have not watched Heroes, but I've played in a heroes game that had multiple Sylars. I believe some were good and some were bad.

[Bendal Home]

Tulas Shorn, on 05 April 2013 - 07:05 AM, said:

Is there anyone on our known scum list that was alive when fender spawned?

Togg and Lock were after. Ano... I don't remember and will have to check.

[Barghast]

Tulas Shorn, on 05 April 2013 - 07:01 AM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 02 April 2013 - 06:06 PM, said:

and Yes, Steve the Tyrant is also immune to kills/vigs/other lethal stuff until his Shields are dead.

When a Shield dies it will be included as part of their CF.

ie: Prazec Goul is dead. He was the marshmallow man and a Shield.

Here it is. I don't think ps would do this if he didn't have shields.

Lol. Someone else has a brain it seems. Bendal, you ass-munch. I guess I can't give you shit for not reading that. Hell, I thought Prazec Goul was dead after I read that. Then wondered how the hell he was alive. Now, please die.

[Barghast]

Bendal Home, on 05 April 2013 - 07:07 AM, said:

Tulas Shorn, on 05 April 2013 - 07:05 AM, said:

Is there anyone on our known scum list that was alive when fender spawned?

Togg and Lock were after. Ano... I don't remember and will have to check.

Holy shit, you're retarded. Wait. You're def fucking with me. Ass hole.

[Barghast]

Barghast, on 05 April 2013 - 06:07 AM, said:

Tulas Shorn, on 05 April 2013 - 05:29 AM, said:

Barghast, on 05 April 2013 - 05:26 AM, said:

I'm down to voting for Sorrit, Lock, or Amp. In that order of desire.

But not Togg?

Well, Togg and Ano are the other two. I think Ano is D'riss, recruited scum. The reason I say Lock over Togg, is because I already offered Lock, now someone wants to swap to Togg. Just making sure no ones covering for Lock. I think Sorrit is the best bet for scum shield, he's defended known scum too often.

Night 5 - We lose Ultama(scum), Meanas(scum), Pallid(town). Pallid became Kadagar Fant. Ultama became Fener. Meanas became Togg.

Night 6 - we lose Rashan, Fanderay, Korlat.
Rashan became Emurls, Fanderay became Alkend, so Korlat is Lock.

Night 7 - lose Emurls, Gait, Kadagar Fant, Olar Ethil, Alkend, D'riss, and Desra.
Gaining Cast, Barghast, Ano. Osseric, and Serc. Not sure who is who. Too many. Olar didn't CF faction. Gait, Kadagar Fant, and Desra CF town. Lose Kadagar Fant for good. Emurls, Alkend, and D'riss CF scum. Lose Emurls for good. So of the new alts spawned day 8, 2 are town,.one unknown, and 2 scum.

Edit: fixed auto correction. 'New alts' said new slander.

This was only a page back. Read, mother fucker.

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