[Fanderay]

Path-Shaper, on 25 March 2013 - 09:17 PM, said:

Fanderay, on 25 March 2013 - 09:12 PM, said:

Oh man, every time I think I'm caught up something new happens!

The mods have already said that this game is not balanced. So all this speculation on teams and roles is very interesting, but I'm not sure whether it is useful or not. This seems to be the kind of game where we only learn everything at the very end when we make it to spoiler heaven.

"Not balanced" would be a mis-leading way of putting it, as that brings to mind crazy CFUM games with experimental mechanics that are nigh-impossible for some sides to win.

I'd go with "unstable" for this game - it looks pretty okay on paper at the start, but there's just so MUCH in there that it'd be so easy for an unlucky streak to ruin a bunch of the more powerful roles in one faction and cripple it entirely.

It's like a ball on a hill, once it gets a bit of a push in one direction it might start accelerating that way faster and faster. And then a nuke might go off just beneath it and send it completely back to the other side, where an octopus grabs it from the air and eats it. Right?

Thanks for the clarification!

[Path-Shaper]

I am out for a while. Tapper or Shin will probably be along in a little while to take care of all your modding needs.

[D'riss]

You bunch of filthy fucking spammers.

Checking in.

[Fanderay]

Galayn Lord, on 25 March 2013 - 09:01 PM, said:

Prazec Goul said:

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also also also whoever thinks that every link in the first post is a game that HAS to have roles from it in here, guess again. You think there's a mexican gangster in here when we have no standoff mechanic? You think there's a realtiy dysfucntion second forum? You think we all have assigned seats around a table and are drawing cards that we don't even know about? No effing way. I GUARANTEE you it's just some flavor to push the theme or some shit like that, with random jokes like haha the virgins link points to Mean Girls haha.

Well yeah, there are too many games listed to match up with the number of players. That said, I'd think that many/most of those games would include roles in this one.

That mexican standoff game had a lady who was RI (if I recall), so it bypasses the lack of a standoff mechanic,

I assumed that the games linked would all have roles or mechanics that appear in this game, but not all of the roles in those games would turn up in this game. Given that we all have three roles, I don't think it's much of a stretch to consider that there could be a role from each of those games in this one.

[Ampelas]

What the hell's a Denesmet? My Malaz knowledge is being put to shame here.

[Ampelas]

Fanderay, on 25 March 2013 - 09:37 PM, said:

Galayn Lord, on 25 March 2013 - 09:01 PM, said:

Prazec Goul, on 25 March 2013 - 08:50 PM, said:

also also also whoever thinks that every link in the first post is a game that HAS to have roles from it in here, guess again. You think there's a mexican gangster in here when we have no standoff mechanic? You think there's a realtiy dysfucntion second forum? You think we all have assigned seats around a table and are drawing cards that we don't even know about? No effing way. I GUARANTEE you it's just some flavor to push the theme or some shit like that, with random jokes like haha the virgins link points to Mean Girls haha.

Well yeah, there are too many games listed to match up with the number of players. That said, I'd think that many/most of those games would include roles in this one.

That mexican standoff game had a lady who was RI (if I recall), so it bypasses the lack of a standoff mechanic,

I assumed that the games linked would all have roles or mechanics that appear in this game, but not all of the roles in those games would turn up in this game. Given that we all have three roles, I don't think it's much of a stretch to consider that there could be a role from each of those games in this one.

My personal interpretation of it is that it doesn't necessarily have to be an ability or mechanic from the game, but even just a character from the game - even if that character is just Joe RI Bloggs. So just because a game has a weird and wonderful mechanic in it, it doesn't mean that's the particular piece that's been taken from it. It could be something much more mundane.


Although it's very likely to be crazy ass shit instead

[Ampelas]

Path-Shaper, on 25 March 2013 - 09:18 PM, said:

It is Day 1. 25 hours and 32 minutes remaining

25 Players still alive: Ampelas, Aranatha, Bendal Home, Demelain, Denesmet, Desra, Eloth, Fanderay, Galayn Lord, Karosis, Kilava, Korbas, Korlat, Liosan, Mockra, Monok Ochem, Nenanda, Prazec Goul, Rashan, Ryllandaras, Silchas Ruin, Skintick, Trake, Tulas Shorn, Ultama

13 votes to lynch, 13 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Ryllandaras ( Bendal Home )
1 Vote for Bendal Home ( Aranatha )

Players not voted: Ampelas, Demelain, Denesmet, Desra, Eloth, Fanderay, Galayn Lord, Karosis, Kilava, Korbas, Korlat, Liosan, Mockra, Monok Ochem, Nenanda, Prazec Goul, Rashan, Ryllandaras, Silchas Ruin, Skintick, Trake, Tulas Shorn, Ultama

Hey D'riss, why aren't you in the latest vote count?

[D'riss]

Ampelas, on 25 March 2013 - 09:43 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 25 March 2013 - 09:18 PM, said:

It is Day 1. 25 hours and 32 minutes remaining

25 Players still alive: Ampelas, Aranatha, Bendal Home, Demelain, Denesmet, Desra, Eloth, Fanderay, Galayn Lord, Karosis, Kilava, Korbas, Korlat, Liosan, Mockra, Monok Ochem, Nenanda, Prazec Goul, Rashan, Ryllandaras, Silchas Ruin, Skintick, Trake, Tulas Shorn, Ultama

13 votes to lynch, 13 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Ryllandaras ( Bendal Home )
1 Vote for Bendal Home ( Aranatha )

Players not voted: Ampelas, Demelain, Denesmet, Desra, Eloth, Fanderay, Galayn Lord, Karosis, Kilava, Korbas, Korlat, Liosan, Mockra, Monok Ochem, Nenanda, Prazec Goul, Rashan, Ryllandaras, Silchas Ruin, Skintick, Trake, Tulas Shorn, Ultama

Hey D'riss, why aren't you in the latest vote count?

Probably hasn't been updated yet. I just got home.

[Ryllandaras]

Ampelas, on 25 March 2013 - 09:40 PM, said:

Fanderay, on 25 March 2013 - 09:37 PM, said:

Galayn Lord, on 25 March 2013 - 09:01 PM, said:

Prazec Goul, on 25 March 2013 - 08:50 PM, said:

also also also whoever thinks that every link in the first post is a game that HAS to have roles from it in here, guess again. You think there's a mexican gangster in here when we have no standoff mechanic? You think there's a realtiy dysfucntion second forum? You think we all have assigned seats around a table and are drawing cards that we don't even know about? No effing way. I GUARANTEE you it's just some flavor to push the theme or some shit like that, with random jokes like haha the virgins link points to Mean Girls haha.

Well yeah, there are too many games listed to match up with the number of players. That said, I'd think that many/most of those games would include roles in this one.

That mexican standoff game had a lady who was RI (if I recall), so it bypasses the lack of a standoff mechanic,

I assumed that the games linked would all have roles or mechanics that appear in this game, but not all of the roles in those games would turn up in this game. Given that we all have three roles, I don't think it's much of a stretch to consider that there could be a role from each of those games in this one.

My personal interpretation of it is that it doesn't necessarily have to be an ability or mechanic from the game, but even just a character from the game - even if that character is just Joe RI Bloggs. So just because a game has a weird and wonderful mechanic in it, it doesn't mean that's the particular piece that's been taken from it. It could be something much more mundane.


Although it's very likely to be crazy ass shit instead

Personally I think it's just a mindfuck to keep us confused about what roles and mechanics are out there.

[Fanderay]

Ampelas, on 25 March 2013 - 09:37 PM, said:

What the hell's a Denesmet? My Malaz knowledge is being put to shame here.

Malaz wiki may be your friend here. It's my go-to source whenever I want to know more about an alt. I think there are a couple that are completely made up though, so that won't help!

I agree with you about the roles/characters as well. Although the role tends to be connected to the character, so Joe Bloggs' role is RI.

[Aranatha]

Tulas Shorn, on 25 March 2013 - 07:16 PM, said:

Eloth, on 25 March 2013 - 06:45 PM, said:

Bendal Home, on 25 March 2013 - 06:43 PM, said:

Eloth, on 25 March 2013 - 06:04 PM, said:

Bendal Home, on 25 March 2013 - 05:55 PM, said:

The SK will probably be a FM. With different kill abilities and perhaps jump abilities into each of his alts.

Why do you think he'll be a FM?

Well reading the op a fm as a SK seemed the most logical and to have 3 different chances would greatly increase his ability to win the game.

D, on 25 January 2013 - 07:55 PM, said:

Mafia 100 - The Centennial


Furthermore, there could also be roles that change alts, manipulate alts, etc (ie an FM). If you try to login to your alt and can't, check the game thread and your main forum login!

Modkills, if imposed, may remove only one life and role of a player if the mods are feeling lenient. Or, the mods may choose to immediately remove the player from the game.

That just says that there are likely FMs in the game, not that it MUST be the SK. Let's not make assumptions, even if you may be correct.

Why are you so determined to talk us out of thinking the SK role could be an FM?

You talk about the FM so much.... are you the FM finder?

[Aranatha]

Kilava, on 25 March 2013 - 07:43 PM, said:

"disucc"..i menat discuss

filthy spamme,r trying to up post count with useless posts.

[Aranatha]

Prazec Goul, on 25 March 2013 - 08:46 PM, said:

Whoever was doing that arguing that there'd be 8 scum is insane. 24 scum and 48 town? So 1 in every 3 alts is scum? That's stupid and would only work if they gave town all the finder and town-killer roles there could possibly be.

giving town killer roles is the quickest way to doom town imaginable. it's beeing scientifically proven.

[Aranatha]

Prazec Goul, on 25 March 2013 - 08:50 PM, said:

also also also whoever thinks that every link in the first post is a game that HAS to have roles from it in here, guess again. You think there's a mexican gangster in here when we have no standoff mechanic? You think there's a realtiy dysfucntion second forum? You think we all have assigned seats around a table and are drawing cards that we don't even know about? No effing way. I GUARANTEE you it's just some flavor to push the theme or some shit like that, with random jokes like haha the virgins link points to Mean Girls haha.

we each ahve 3 roles. I was talking abot ROLES, not mechanics. Reading comprehension fail much?

[Aranatha]

Skintick, on 25 March 2013 - 09:06 PM, said:

I just wish Ryllandaras and Bendal Home would learn to trim their fucking quotes down.

fuck that noise! neisted quotes are the best.


especially once you start colour-coding responses to various points.

[Aranatha]

Path-Shaper, on 25 March 2013 - 09:17 PM, said:

Fanderay, on 25 March 2013 - 09:12 PM, said:

Oh man, every time I think I'm caught up something new happens!

The mods have already said that this game is not balanced. So all this speculation on teams and roles is very interesting, but I'm not sure whether it is useful or not. This seems to be the kind of game where we only learn everything at the very end when we make it to spoiler heaven.

"Not balanced" would be a mis-leading way of putting it, as that brings to mind crazy CFUM games with experimental mechanics that are nigh-impossible for some sides to win.

I'd go with "unstable" for this game - it looks pretty okay on paper at the start, but there's just so MUCH in there that it'd be so easy for an unlucky streak to ruin a bunch of the more powerful roles in one faction and cripple it entirely.

It's like a ball on a hill, once it gets a bit of a push in one direction it might start accelerating that way faster and faster. And then a nuke might go off just beneath it and send it completely back to the other side, where an octopus grabs it from the air and eats it. Right?

This game has 27 players (presumably)



That's 81 roles (presumably)


with the mnods havign no way of knowing which roles will be in play at the same time.



The number of possible permutations/combinations is endless. Well, okay, it's not, but it's a really big number. Somebody get STd in here to do the math for us.

[Aranatha]

D, on 25 March 2013 - 09:35 PM, said:

You bunch of filthy fucking spammers.

Checking in.

You're just jealous.

[Aranatha]

Welp, now I'm all caought up. Half a lunch break well spent, if I do say so myself.

[Aranatha]

Member name Posts

Bendal Home 40

Aranatha 24

Path-Shaper 22

Korbas 20

Eloth 20

Ryllandaras 16

Ampelas 11

Korlat 7

Fanderay 7

Prazec Goul 7

Tulas Shorn 5

Kilava 4

Desra 4

Silchas Ruin 4

D'rek 4

Demelain 3

Mockra 3

Karosis 3

Rashan 2

Skintick 2

Galayn Lord 2

D'riss 2

Ultama 2

Nenanda 1

Trake 1

Liosan 1

Monok Ochem 1


How many low poster will there be in a game like this?

[Aranatha]

Oh, I suppose I should



remove vote



becase BH apologized so nicely and all.