[Korbas]

Pran Chole, on 02 April 2013 - 05:47 PM, said:

Sorrit, on 02 April 2013 - 05:42 PM, said:

also, i got no problem with lynching either of them
but i dont think speed lynching is the answer atm

I agree. Speed lynches are bad. I say we discuss. Let's try and find a scum the old fashion way and if we can't come to a consenus then we speed lynch D'riss or Korlat before Day times out. I need to reread the case on Rashan. If we can get the alien bitch (or whoever) that would be awesome.

Actually, despite what I said in my last post about focusing on the reveals, we lose nothing from taking some time and discussing cases. The only issue that may arise is a lack of lynch support if the train builds too late in the game. Though this has not really been an issue so far.

[Gait]

Pran, you said Korlat was a necromancer. They raise the dead, right? That's why I want Korlat. Secondly, I think since you outted Amon, people see you as a 'friendly' , and as so you would be an excellent choice for a recruit. I would like to test your second reveal to see if we can still trust you. Thirdly, you might still be from Scum Team 1, and gave up Amon because he was from Scum Team 2. Fourthly, if you are town, and still are capable of giving us info, I want to use it before they off you.

[Ampelas]

Pran Chole, on 02 April 2013 - 05:44 PM, said:

Silanah, on 02 April 2013 - 05:37 PM, said:

Sorrit, on 02 April 2013 - 05:35 PM, said:

Silanah, on 02 April 2013 - 05:34 PM, said:

Are people disinclined to believe the reveal? It only puts his head on the chopping block otherwise.

no but there is no reason to lynch korlat instead of driss
one can say it would be better if we lynched driss because he may be a shield of the tyrant...

who's to say korlat isn't a shield? And if we have caught one scum team we know nothing of the other scum team, they could be just as powerful as the first.

I don't think Korlat is one of the shields as he was from the different scum team than Amon. Amon is a Meyern while Korlat is a Goodkinder.

You have a lot of knowledge for not being a finder. Now you're claiming you know factions. That's pretty specific.

So who do you favor for lynching? Not asking for a vote, just your preferred candidate.

[Ampelas]

Gait, on 02 April 2013 - 05:59 PM, said:

Pran, you said Korlat was a necromancer. They raise the dead, right? That's why I want Korlat. Secondly, I think since you outted Amon, people see you as a 'friendly' , and as so you would be an excellent choice for a recruit. I would like to test your second reveal to see if we can still trust you. Thirdly, you might still be from Scum Team 1, and gave up Amon because he was from Scum Team 2. Fourthly, if you are town, and still are capable of giving us info, I want to use it before they off you.

With Pran's claim to faction knowledge your 3rd point is very relevant.

[Path-Shaper]

and Yes, Steve the Tyrant is also immune to kills/vigs/other lethal stuff until his Shields are dead.

When a Shield dies it will be included as part of their CF.

ie: Prazec Goul is dead. He was the marshmallow man and a Shield.

[Ampelas]

Path-Shaper, on 02 April 2013 - 06:06 PM, said:

and Yes, Steve the Tyrant is also immune to kills/vigs/other lethal stuff until his Shields are dead.

When a Shield dies it will be included as part of their CF.

ie: Prazec Goul is dead. He was the marshmallow man and a Shield.

ie: Prozac is neither the marshmallow man or a shield.

Thank you.

[Gait]

Path-Shaper, on 02 April 2013 - 06:06 PM, said:

and Yes, Steve the Tyrant is also immune to kills/vigs/other lethal stuff until his Shields are dead.

When a Shield dies it will be included as part of their CF.

ie: Prazec Goul is dead. He was the marshmallow man and a Shield.

All I hear is gun shots.

[Path-Shaper]

Also Fener is immune to guards and gaurds.

[Gait]

Path-Shaper, on 02 April 2013 - 06:11 PM, said:

Also Fener is immune to guards and gaurds.

What about noogies, wedgies, and Indian burns?

[Ampelas]

I have no words. If y'all are right and Fener is Amon's second alt we are fucked.

[Desra]

Well shit, hello to the tyrant. Of course that role would have to see an appearance. Like people were saying, it seems obvious that Fener used to be Amon. He jumped from one high powered scum role to another, has to be their leader. Aside from that either Togg or Kanadar Fant are another scum. Plus I'm inclined to believe Pran Chole's reveal. After giving us Amon, there seems to be little reason to not trust the Korlat/ Driss info. We are surrounded by scum.

I am curious as to Fener's shields, I'm guessing they consist of members already in/ recruited to his faction. That would include Driss, according to Pran. Interesting that Fener's first silence would go to a player he recruited, that may be a shield. Since the bore boar of summer knows his shields, you'd think he wouldn't silence one. WIFOM territory though.

Out of this bunch, I'd agree that Korlat seems to be the best target. If we are able to ID which is scum between Kanadar and Togg, that would completely eliminate that scum player from the game too.

[Gait]

Ampelas, on 02 April 2013 - 06:14 PM, said:

I have no words. If y'all are right and Fener is Amon's second alt we are fucked.

Amon could have just as easily been the space ship scene.

[Karosis]

Props to Pran for identifying Amon!
As I said before, and Pran also says, D'riss is Amon's recruit, so presumably another Meyern. I'm willing to vote either D'riss or Korlat. I note that Tyrant Steve could also have been Meanas previously, not just Ultama.

Also, the ship landing thing could also refer to Ripley, not just the Alien.

Anyway, that's all I've got time to post now, will be back in a few hours.

[Karosis]

Desra said:

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Well shit, hello to the tyrant. Of course that role would have to see an appearance. Like people were saying, it seems obvious that Fener used to be Amon. He jumped from one high powered scum role to another, has to be their leader. Aside from that either Togg or Kanadar Fant are another scum. Plus I'm inclined to believe Pran Chole's reveal. After giving us Amon, there seems to be little reason to not trust the Korlat/ Driss info. We are surrounded by scum.

I am curious as to Fener's shields, I'm guessing they consist of members already in/ recruited to his faction. That would include Driss, according to Pran. Interesting that Fener's first silence would go to a player he recruited, that may be a shield. Since the bore boar of summer knows his shields, you'd think he wouldn't silence one. WIFOM territory though.

Out of this bunch, I'd agree that Korlat seems to be the best target. If we are able to ID which is scum between Kanadar and Togg, that would completely eliminate that scum player from the game too.

If you believe Fener was Ultama, then why is Korlat the best choice? Surely another Meyern would be better, in order to hunt down Fener's bodyguards?

Anyway, I'm off.

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[Gait]

Lynch Rashan, eh?

[Fanderay]

[Ampelas]

oh fuck.

[Desra]

Karosis said:

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Props to Pran for identifying Amon!
As I said before, and Pran also says, D'riss is Amon's recruit, so presumably another Meyern. I'm willing to vote either D'riss or Korlat. I note that Tyrant Steve could also have been Meanas previously, not just Ultama.

Also, the ship landing thing could also refer to Ripley, not just the Alien.

Anyway, that's all I've got time to post now, will be back in a few hours.

Here are some of Shan Pei aka Meanas' role PMs from old Rot3K

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Role: Shen Pei
Role Type: Prime Minister
Faction: Xia
Title: King of Zhong
Starting Location: Luo Yang

Shen Pei is the brains behind the brawn, a master strategist, minister and advisor. Enemy soldiers throw down their weapons and flee upon news that Shen Pei has devised the Xia tactics for an upcoming battle.

Abilities:

Exemplary Service to the Xia - You know Yuan Tan is Emurlahn and he knows you.

Mastery - You win all Duels and Debates.

Spy Network - Each night you may do one of the following:
>> Pick any Location. You will hear all Notices from that Location the following day.
or
>>
Send a message of up to 100 characters to Yuan Tan (he will get it at Dawn)
This action cannot be Blocked or Guarded.



Defence of the Realm - Each night you may use one of the following abilities:
Find (std)
Guard (std)
Heal (std)

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Shen Pei, Chief of the Secretariat
Role: Operations Master

Yuan Shao has entrusted you to devise a great strategy that will wipe out the forces of Zhang Xiu and Huang Zhong. A master of deception, you have secured the assistance of the former Jing generals Cai Mao and Kuai Yue. They will pretend to flee your forces and join with the enemy, then secretly prepare to ambush the enemy bases from within while Yuan Shao's forces attack en masse. Cai Mao will mark the camps of enemy armies, while Kuai Yue will sabotage the enemy's supply depots.

Cai Mao and Kuai Yue are _______ and ______ (alts), though not necessarily in that order.

Yuan Shao Operation: Espionage

You may launch Yuan Shao's operation on any night in the game, just like any other 1-time ability.

All enemy players will be guarded the night of the operation.

If Cai Mao has successfully marked enemy camps, the alts of those players will be revealed to all Yuan Shao players.
If Kuai Yue has successfully sabotaged the enemy supply depots, all enemy players' infinite-use abilities will be reduced to 2 remaining usages (after the night of the operation).

You begin in Shang Yong

I'm not saying you are wrong about Meanas, I'm just saying based on this role vs. Amon, it would seem that the tyrant is more likely to go to the power player with LPs and the ability to recruit aka Amon.