[Tattersail_]

D, on 22 January 2013 - 10:01 PM, said:

Tattersail, on 22 January 2013 - 09:31 PM, said:

Drek I'm open to diplomatic relations with you when you are ready.

er... we don't have a border?

I thought you were taking the ancient, if not we explore towards each other tier 3 that would open a border to each other

[Tattersail_]

Now that I have 4 science can I spend 10 knowing I'll get 6 after production so upkeep would be 4 plus 6 minus 10? It'll leave me with no science next go though unless I find and colonisea planet with science

[Imperial Historian]

D'rek! What are you doing! betrayal!

Seriously though you must be aware that I can stop you if I choose to (by moving my interceptor into the ancient hex this turn). You don't have enough actions available to pimp your cruisers enough, and my improved hull dread is more than a match for your cruisers. You'll get the traitor card, and probably won't have anything to show for it.

That said I don't particularly want to go all out trying to stop you, as I won't particularly gain from it either, but I would probably be in a better position than you.

So basically the only way I'm going to let you take that tier 1 hex is if you ally with me. You in? or is it on like donkey kong?

@Tats you can only pay for upkeep with money before you have it, research and materials you must have in the bank before you spend them.

Also d'rek is pretty action depleted trying to take the tier 1 hex, i doubt she will be able to do much else

[twelve]

D'rek don't ally with IH!!! He's a big bully. I owe him some payback for destroying by terran brethern. We should be united against him.

[twelve]

Actually Here's a counter proposal if IH tries to block you from taking the Tier I planet ally with me and I can send two dreads to assist you in taking his homeworld instead.

[Imperial Historian]

twelve, on 23 January 2013 - 12:19 AM, said:

Actually Here's a counter proposal if IH tries to block you from taking the Tier I planet ally with me and I can send two dreads to assist you in taking his homeworld instead.

I preferred it when you were stuck on the other side of the map

[twelve]

Imperial Historian, on 23 January 2013 - 12:21 AM, said:

twelve, on 23 January 2013 - 12:19 AM, said:

Actually Here's a counter proposal if IH tries to block you from taking the Tier I planet ally with me and I can send two dreads to assist you in taking his homeworld instead.

I preferred it when you were stuck on the other side of the map

I initially hated the idea of the Warp portal as it creates yet another line into my territory but there are positive aspects of it that I'm starting to enjoy.

[D'rek]

Uh oh, I started the dramas.

I just want a poop-colour planet, ok? As IH points out, I have not a lot of money and need the poop planet to build my more-expensive-than-usual orbitals to get more of the moneys.

That is not to say I am turning down an alliance, but I don't want to escalate things into craziness just yet, either. Feel free to expand upon your offers Twelve, I assume you'd be looking at you-me-Tatts? IH, would the 3rd be Khell or EM?

This post has been edited by D'rek: 23 January 2013 - 03:49 AM

[twelve]

Well as it's IH's turn let's see what he has to say.

[Tattersail_]

Oh Man I was hoping to go again ha!

[Imperial Historian]

I hadn't really thought the whole alliance prospect through other than I didn't want to fight you, but if you took that tier 1 tile off me, we would probably have to, as I'd lose access to the best tile prospect I have available, and you would be right in the middle of my tiles with a nice big fleet and nowhere to go. As to why you would ally with me, well you'd get secure borders for another turn, time to get advanced mining (and neutron bombs when they inevitably come up), and i get the time I need to explore for more discovery tiles.

I'm completely open on the prospect of a third member of the alliance or just going as a two (2 three people alliances would inevitably lead to one person being out in the cold). Hell twelve could join us if he wanted to, could make things very interesting.

EDIT: Note sure how much I will be around the rest of the day, so to make things move more quickly:
Provisional orders: If there is an alliance between D'rek and me, explore NE from homeworld and claim it
If there is not an alliance, move interceptor to fight ancient and pray .

[Tattersail_]

Imperial Historian, on 23 January 2013 - 12:33 PM, said:

I hadn't really thought the whole alliance prospect through other than I didn't want to fight you, but if you took that tier 1 tile off me, we would probably have to, as I'd lose access to the best tile prospect I have available, and you would be right in the middle of my tiles with a nice big fleet and nowhere to go. As to why you would ally with me, well you'd get secure borders for another turn, time to get advanced mining (and neutron bombs when they inevitably come up), and i get the time I need to explore for more discovery tiles.

I'm completely open on the prospect of a third member of the alliance or just going as a two (2 three people alliances would inevitably lead to one person being out in the cold). Hell twelve could join us if he wanted to, could make things very interesting.

EDIT: Note sure how much I will be around the rest of the day, so to make things move more quickly:
Provisional orders: If there is an alliance between D'rek and me, explore NE from homeworld and claim it
If there is not an alliance, move interceptor to fight ancient and pray .

Can you only research what is on the supply board? So it was just by chance I picked those two research options :/

[Tattersail_]

Also are you waiting on D'rek before making a move?

[cerveza_fiesta]

I am after EM according to turn order now, correct?

[twelve]

IH put in a provisional that depends on d'reks decision. I think it's okay for khell to go as long as it doesn't affect the tier I tile they are fighting over.

[Tattersail_]

I think we should have 2-3 of these games running at once. I'd be playing in them all eating sweats and having a good time.

[D'rek]

Imperial Historian, on 23 January 2013 - 12:33 PM, said:

I hadn't really thought the whole alliance prospect through other than I didn't want to fight you, but if you took that tier 1 tile off me, we would probably have to, as I'd lose access to the best tile prospect I have available, and you would be right in the middle of my tiles with a nice big fleet and nowhere to go. As to why you would ally with me, well you'd get secure borders for another turn, time to get advanced mining (and neutron bombs when they inevitably come up), and i get the time I need to explore for more discovery tiles.

I'm completely open on the prospect of a third member of the alliance or just going as a two (2 three people alliances would inevitably lead to one person being out in the cold). Hell twelve could join us if he wanted to, could make things very interesting.

EDIT: Note sure how much I will be around the rest of the day, so to make things move more quickly:
Provisional orders: If there is an alliance between D'rek and me, explore NE from homeworld and claim it
If there is not an alliance, move interceptor to fight ancient and pray .

Sheesh, this is such an overreaction. You already have a tier 1 hex, not getting one you already have is not some sort of set-back. And discoveries seem to be the important thing to you, and you can eaasily gobble them up by just exploring outward because over half the tier 3 hexes have them, whereas my chances of getting a brown planet in one explore are really bad.

And then "join my alliance or die"? Why would I ever want to join an alliance where my ally will be someone with that attitude? I'd be paralyzed for the rest of the game with the need to be ready for your betrayal when some other random little thing sets you off and you betray me.

So here's my counter. It's not a counter-offer, just a statement. If you fly your interceptor into Castor, I will agree to twelve's alliance offer and let him fly his dreadnaughts through the warp portal to attack your homeworld (and my cruisers will come along for the fun, too). If you don't, I won't, and we can all keep on pleasantly growing our economics and fighting Ancients without the need for everyone to suddenly scramble into alliances and probably make the game a 3v3v1 from here on.

[D'rek]

Do you think when I said...

D, on 22 January 2013 - 08:30 PM, said:

Peace, diplomacy and cooperation against the Ancients were winning the day.

For now.

...I totally jinxed it for myself?

[Tattersail_]

where as you guys will be declaring war and hatred he he

[D'rek]

Hydra board, Exiles board, Supply board and map updated.