[Khellendros]

Tattersail, on 21 February 2013 - 08:40 AM, said:

Current 2
upkeep -25
income 8

remove all discs from board

current 2
upkeep -7
income 3

-2

That is the closest I can get.

So I am a dead one it looks like. Urgh... (my dying noise)

You don't have any materials or science you could convert to money do you?

[Tattersail_]

Khellendros, on 21 February 2013 - 11:55 AM, said:

Tattersail, on 21 February 2013 - 08:40 AM, said:

Current 2
upkeep -25
income 8

remove all discs from board

current 2
upkeep -7
income 3

-2

That is the closest I can get.

So I am a dead one it looks like. Urgh... (my dying noise)

You don't have any materials or science you could convert to money do you?

One material ha

[cerveza_fiesta]

@Tattersail
Sad to see you eliminated even though that last interceptor stand was pretty awesome. Could have gone against me as easily had I been left out of an alliance with the most powerful player on the board back in Round 3 (or maybe 4).

I'm hooked now though. If we play another game I will be in it and I hope to see you in it too.

[Tattersail_]

Yah I'll be enjoying the next game. Sad to die early on this, only two rounds to go though.

[Tattersail_]

D'rek has done an awesome job modding this.

[Khellendros]

Tatts, I'm scared to continue without you. I'm not sure I can do it without you by my side/on the other side of the galaxy. But I'll try and be brave, just like you taught me.

[Tattersail_]

Khellendros, on 21 February 2013 - 12:40 PM, said:

Tatts, I'm scared to continue without you. I'm not sure I can do it without you by my side/on the other side of the galaxy. But I'll try and be brave, just like you taught me.

Even though my body has gone, my spirit remains. Those footsteps Khell are not yours

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They are mine whilst I carry you....

[Khellendros]

Sob!

[Imperial Historian]

Upkeep
Flip one colony ship for research

Money:
Bank:3
Income: 12
Final:5

Research:
B: 1
I: 6
F: 7

Production:
B: 8
I: 10
F: 18

[cerveza_fiesta]

Hold on guys, things look weird here.

Wasn't all population in Mu Arae destroyed and didn't twelve influence that system?

Which would mean IH had to put 5 population cubes back on his board somewhere?

Sorry, maybe I'm wrong but looking back to the battle results where it says

"all population destroyed"

and twelve's and my conversation afterward regarding whether he would influence the hex........IH's upkeep doesn't really look right.

[twelve]

Tattersail, on 21 February 2013 - 09:34 AM, said:

Imperial Historian, on 21 February 2013 - 09:10 AM, said:

If you had populated your two new orbitals with money instead of science you would have survived. As it is you are dead.

I know but that was before D'rek moved into my territory. I was happy to research and spend materials on orbitals and monoliths, and had let her know this. I could have went for an attacking strategy and attacked vega and the one next to it BUT I said i'll leave her alone if she leaves me alone, I even offered an alliance or relation with her. IF that had happened I would have got a lot of VP's through research. She could have committed strength to your cause and defended Delta Corvi better. Next go I would not have had many materials to even make a second ship. I was not a threat to you but you attacked me. I knew I couldn't win, so why not go out in style? So many things I could have done. I still get some VP's though don't i? Even if I am out at this stage? What happens to my hexes? Do they become explorable by you all, or do you just move a ship onto them to claim them?>

That is why you wait until the upkeep stage to use your colony ships. Just in case. something unexpected happens and forces you to do something else.

[twelve]

cerveza_fiesta, on 21 February 2013 - 02:11 PM, said:

Hold on guys, things look weird here.

Wasn't all population in Mu Arae destroyed and didn't twelve influence that system?

Which would mean IH had to put 5 population cubes back on his board somewhere?

Sorry, maybe I'm wrong but looking back to the battle results where it says

"all population destroyed"

and twelve's and my conversation afterward regarding whether he would influence the hex........IH's upkeep doesn't really look right.

Destroyed population via combat means that he still get one last round of production while I also get a round of prodution from the planets. It seems weird that players can each receive benefit from a planet in the same round.

[twelve]

So with Tats being forced to return everything then I need to redo my upkeep (SHIT,FUCK,DAMN). Put the population cube back on science. I think curent total is now 10 science.

[D'rek]

cerveza_fiesta, on 21 February 2013 - 02:11 PM, said:

Hold on guys, things look weird here.

Wasn't all population in Mu Arae destroyed and didn't twelve influence that system?

Which would mean IH had to put 5 population cubes back on his board somewhere?

Sorry, maybe I'm wrong but looking back to the battle results where it says

"all population destroyed"

and twelve's and my conversation afterward regarding whether he would influence the hex........IH's upkeep doesn't really look right.

population cubes destroyed in combat go to the graveyard, then go to the population tracks in the cleanup phase. Think of it like your scientists kept working on their projects all year while a battle was fought in space, transmitting their results via space internet to the rest of your nation right up to the moment they got bombed, so you still get production from the round. Whereas if you removed the cubes via influence, it'd be like you gave an evacuation order and the scientists were too busy packing their things and getting into an evacuation craft to keep working.

I guess Twelve's fleet sent recovery squads onto the planet after he bombed it and found the remnants of IH's banks, mines and labs so he could get the production from those planets this round, too

(Also, just note that I missed one of IH's science cubes when I should have moved it to the graveyard along with the others)

[D'rek]

twelve, on 21 February 2013 - 02:34 PM, said:

So with Tats being forced to return everything then I need to redo my upkeep (SHIT,FUCK,DAMN). Put the population cube back on science. I think curent total is now 10 science.

Since he is eliminated during his upkeep, I'll consider it simultaneous and you only lose the ambassador and add the cube back after your upkeep.

[twelve]

D, on 21 February 2013 - 02:44 PM, said:

twelve, on 21 February 2013 - 02:34 PM, said:

So with Tats being forced to return everything then I need to redo my upkeep (SHIT,FUCK,DAMN). Put the population cube back on science. I think curent total is now 10 science.

Since he is eliminated during his upkeep, I'll consider it simultaneous and you only lose the ambassador and add the cube back after your upkeep.

Well if that is that case put it towards money instead. I have that advanced money planet in IH's homeworld that I can populate next round to make up for it.

[D'rek]

In space, no one can hear you fall off the fiscal cliff. The Hydrani were so addicted to advancing their civilization that they named themselves the Progress. They pushed the borders of math, physics, religion and love in an endless drive for more technological marvels and great constructions. But at what cost? Far too much, it seems. The great projects of the Hydran empire were founded on nothing but debt, and it just couldn't hold together forever.

The Hydrani civilization has collapsed.


Final score tally:

hexes - 7
technology - 3
reputation - 9
ambassadors - 1

TOTAL: 20 VP


Thus ends the reign of Overseer Tattersail of the Hydrani Progress

[D'rek]

(I decided to have the tally occur without removing the discs for bankruptcy. If anyone does any funny business where they try to just accumulate all the hexes and then go bankrupt with a huge score, I will probably change my mind)

[D'rek]

CF's upkeep is pretty straightforward:


Money
Bank: 1
Income: +18
Upkeep: -17
New: 2

Science
Bank: 0
Income: +8
New: 8

Material
Bank: 1
Income: +8
New: 9

This post has been edited by D'rek: 21 February 2013 - 03:11 PM

[cerveza_fiesta]

I already did it ...mebbe you missed it. Your totals are correct anyway.

Also Space Internet sounds amazing! Think of all the fun political talk radio webcasts. And porn.

I understand, the rules RE cleanup now. I didn't really make the distinction between cleanup and upkeep phases.

It makes sense thematically as you say. When you think about it, it's a nice game balancer too. It provides incentive for a player to actually launch an attack in the first place while preventing a defending player's total incapacitation from a single combat round (like last round) and giving him/her a chance to strike back in the subsequent phase.