[Tattersail_]

*** D'rek are you going to be nice to me next phase? I don't like us fighting, I'd prefer the make up ***

[D'rek]

Tattersail, on 11 February 2013 - 08:35 AM, said:

I will wait to see if this is right, I assume that production happens and then the discs that you sent to the graveyard are put back after the upkeep phase in the clean up phase. If not there are only a couple of figures wrong. Easily fixed.

Unfortunately, when you remove discs from the board in the upkeep phase (or when using the influence action), the cubes that come off go straight back to the population tracks. Cubes generally only go to the graveyards when they are killed in battle (and then graveyard cubes are moved to the population tracks in the cleanup phase).

Otherwise, everyone would spend all their influence actions every round expanding as much as possible and doing as much as they like, then get them all back going bankrupt in upkeep and still get all their resource incomes with no penalty.

Tattersail, on 11 February 2013 - 08:35 AM, said:

D'rek you are amazing for modding this game. I can see how complex it is and for you to understand it completely awes me.

Thanks

Tattersail, on 11 February 2013 - 08:35 AM, said:

Ever since Imperial Historian posted that link regarding the Board Game Cafe I have been dreaming of opening my own. If I could make it work I would. I'd have to draw up a business plan, apply for business loan, consider major changes to my life. I would love to do this full time, the risk is there though. I am married, we pay rent, we need the income I generate at the moment. That is the main thing stopping me I think.

Retirement project? Lottery dream?

cerveza_fiesta, on 11 February 2013 - 12:40 PM, said:

@d'rek

Thanks for doing my upkeep, I wasn't just being lazy, I was waiting on an answer about the rules.

Was it an option for me?

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It's always an option, just might not be a reasonable one. [/size]

my lack of colony ships makes it "not an option" right? If I was able to colonize then influencing could actually have been profitable for me right?

Just wanted to be clear on that, cause if colonization sans-colony ships was possible then I did want to influence.

I'm using "option" as that you can technically do it, even if it is a bad idea. If you wanted to, you could have placed an influence disc down, but then you'd have gone bankrupt at upkeep and need to remove that disc or others. Sometimes that would still be a good move, like if you really wanted to have that hex next round to build ships in, and worried that EM would move in a ship quickly to prevent you from influencing it in the next round.

But no, there was no way to colonize it, only to influence it, and so as you say it would not be profitable.

Tattersail, on 11 February 2013 - 02:38 PM, said:

*** D'rek are you going to be nice to me next phase? I don't like us fighting, I'd prefer the make up ***

I have no plans to attack you, I am happy just sitting on my butt in Vega.

Though now I wish I had populated the other planet instead of the oribtal so you could retreat your dreadnaught out of there. Maybe you could send in a sacrifical interceptor to get the dread out? Or let it go to battle and retreat before I can blast through all that armor.

[D'rek]

So, Tattersail, did you still want to remove those 2 discs? Your upkeep would then end up as

0 +8 -7 = 1
7 +8 = 15
6 +4 = 10

Alternatively, you could take the disc off one of them, then take the disc off the hex with only the money cube, then trade 3 science or 3 materials for the 1 money left that you need, which could make your upkeep

1 +6 -7 = 0
4 +10 = 14
6 +6 = 12

or

1 +6 -7 = 0
7 +10 = 17
3 +6 = 9

or

1 +6 -7 = 0
4 +12 = 16
6 +4 = 10

or

1 +6 -7 = 0
7 +12 = 19
3 +4 = 7

[Tattersail_]

So Science goes to
current 7 income 8

new 15

Materials to

current 6
income 4

New 10

[D'rek]

Tattersail, on 11 February 2013 - 03:07 PM, said:

So Science goes to
current 7 income 8

new 15

Materials to

current 6
income 4

New 10

Ok, done. Drawing up the end-of-round stuff now.

[Imperial Historian]

Khellendros, on 10 February 2013 - 04:23 AM, said:

D, on 09 February 2013 - 06:25 PM, said:

Khell - do you want to influence Zeta Draconis? You flipped your colony ships in battle so you won't be able to put any cubes down before upkeep, so you may judge it to be worth waiting until next round to influence it. Let me know.

CF/Twelve - what's happening in Beta Leonis?

Yes, I'll wait till next round.

Khell why didn't you influence and claim the discovery, and then immediatly bankrupt yourself off the tile? It makes no difference to your final upkeep but no-one else can steal the tile off you.

[D'rek]

Round 5 is over.


Current points:

Flare Alliance - 24.5 (Keepers: 23, Exiles: 26)
Nova Alliance - 24 (Union: 27, Mechanema: 21)
Vortex Alliance - 21 (Lyra: 20, Orion: 22)
Hydrani Progress - 13



New Technologies for Round 5:

Fusion Drive
Advanced Mining
Neutron Bombs
Antimatter Cannon
Tachyon Drive
Plasma Cannon
Wormhole Generator
Gluon Computer
Plasma Cannon
Point Defense
Flux Missile
Neutron Bombs


Play Order for Round 5:

Khell
IH
D'rek
Tattersail
twelve
CF
EM



Lists of undrawn stuff remaining:


Discoveries:

Spoiler

Ancient Tech
Ancient Cruiser
+5 Science
+8 Money
+6 Materials
Ion Disrupter
Ancient Orbital
Jump Drive

Technologies:

Spoiler

Neutron Bombs
Neutron Bombs
Gauss Shield
Gauss Shield
Nanorobots
Nanorobots
Starbase
Starbase
Improved Hull
Improved Hull
Improved Hull
Fusion Drive
Fusion Drive
Plasma Cannon
Fusion Source
Fusion Source
Fusion Source
Fusion Source
Fusion Source
Advanced Robotics
Advanced Robotics
Advanced Robotics
Phase Shield
Positron Computer
Positron Computer
Positron Computer
Advanced Mining
Advanced Mining
Advanced Economy
Advanced Labs
Tachyon Source
Tachyon Source
Tachyon Source
Artifact Key
Artifact Key
Plasma Missile
Plasma Missile
Antimatter Cannon
Quantum Grid
Quantum Grid
Wormhole Generator
Cloaking Device
Conifold Field
Interceptor Bay

Reputation tiles:

Spoiler

4
3
3
3
2
2
2
2
2
2
2
2
2
2
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1

This post has been edited by D'rek: 11 February 2013 - 04:01 PM

[D'rek]

Imperial Historian, on 11 February 2013 - 03:22 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 10 February 2013 - 04:23 AM, said:

D, on 09 February 2013 - 06:25 PM, said:

Khell - do you want to influence Zeta Draconis? You flipped your colony ships in battle so you won't be able to put any cubes down before upkeep, so you may judge it to be worth waiting until next round to influence it. Let me know.

CF/Twelve - what's happening in Beta Leonis?

Yes, I'll wait till next round.

Khell why didn't you influence and claim the discovery, and then immediatly bankrupt yourself off the tile? It makes no difference to your final upkeep but no-one else can steal the tile off you.

He goes first this round, so if he uses an influence action right away to grab it no one can do anything to stop him.

[D'rek]

Points break-down, for the curious:

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Mechanema

Sectors: 8
Discoveries: 2
Reputation: 8
Ambassadors: 1
Alliances: 2

---

Terran Union

Sectors: 15
Reputation: 6
Slayer of the Ancient Dreadnaught: 1
Ambassadors: 3
Alliances: 2

---

Hydrani Progress

Sectors: 5
Technology: 1
Reputation: 6
Ambassadors: 1

---

The Exiles

Sectors: 12
Reputation: 3
Ambassadors: 3
Alliances: 2
Orbital Expansion: 4

---

Keepers of Magellan

Sectors: 7
Technology: 1
Discoveries: 6
Reputation: 3
Ambassadors: 3
Alliances: 2
Discovery Exploitation: 1

---

Enlightened of Lyra

Sectors: 7
Reputation: 4
Ambassadors: 2
Alliances: 2
Shrine Development: 5

---

Orion Hegemony

Sectors: 8
Reputation: 10
Ambassadors: 2
Alliances: 2

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[Imperial Historian]

D, on 11 February 2013 - 03:32 PM, said:

Points break-down, for the curious:

[

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Keepers of Magellan

Sectors: 7
Technology: 1
Discoveries: 6
Reputation: 3
Ambassadors: 3
Alliances: 2
Discovery Exploitation: 1

Do I not get an extra victory point for each of my discoveries, or have I misunderstood that rule?

[Khellendros]

Imperial Historian, on 11 February 2013 - 03:22 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 10 February 2013 - 04:23 AM, said:

D, on 09 February 2013 - 06:25 PM, said:

Khell - do you want to influence Zeta Draconis? You flipped your colony ships in battle so you won't be able to put any cubes down before upkeep, so you may judge it to be worth waiting until next round to influence it. Let me know.

CF/Twelve - what's happening in Beta Leonis?

Yes, I'll wait till next round.

Khell why didn't you influence and claim the discovery, and then immediatly bankrupt yourself off the tile? It makes no difference to your final upkeep but no-one else can steal the tile off you.

Because D'rek didn't tell me to and I can't think for myself?

[Khellendros]

Can I influence that hex where I fought the ancients without using the influence action, or does that only happen when you get the hex throught Exploration? I'm guessing the latter.

[D'rek]

Khellendros, on 11 February 2013 - 03:39 PM, said:

Can I influence that hex where I fought the ancients without using the influence action, or does that only happen when you get the hex throught Exploration? I'm guessing the latter.

Exploration or at the end of combat phase are when you get the 'free' influences. Otherwise you have to use the influence action. On the plus side, you'll get colony ships flipped up for re-rolling later if you need them!

[D'rek]

Mmmm, so I'm having problems with uploading the files for the OP - I deleted the old hydra board, maps and supply board, but when trying to add new attachments I get a failure message. Tried attaching them to a new post instead and that didn't work either.

IH - any ideas? Maybe i've attached and deleted too many files and the site isn't letting me anymore?

[Imperial Historian]

I don't think that would be a problem... I think everyone has unlimited amount of attachments.

Check for me, next to your attach file is Used 1.48MB of your Unlimited global upload quota (Max. single file size: 2MB) visible?

Send me the files and I'll try to attach them if not.

[Khellendros]

Ah, so that's why nothing comes up on the first page. I thought it was my computer For when you're ready:

INFLUENCE the former ancient hex (301?) and put down whichever pop cubes it is I can (science and money I think).

[D'rek]

Imperial Historian, on 11 February 2013 - 03:45 PM, said:

I don't think that would be a problem... I think everyone has unlimited amount of attachments.

Check for me, next to your attach file is Used 1.48MB of your Unlimited global upload quota (Max. single file size: 2MB) visible?

Send me the files and I'll try to attach them if not.

Yeah, it says I have unlimited, but I wonder if maybe I did so much deleting and re-attaching files that I triggered some sort of anti-spam thing. I'll try a few more things, and if nothing works host them elsewhere and do image links, or send them to you.

[twelve]

Terran Union

Sectors: 15
Technology: 1
Reputation: 6
Slayer of the Ancient Dreadnaught: 1
Ambassadors: 3
Alliances: 2

I don't have any VP for technologies (yet) I have 3, 3 and 2 on the board. If they were all on the same row then I'd have like 5 but they are all spreadout. I think you meant to put the technology points on Tattersails board instead as I didn't see any points for Tech under his.

[EmperorMagus]

I'm here. Sorry you had to do my upkeep for me but yesterday was a holiday and quiet a late night for me.

My provisional for first action is research starbase.
After that If it reaches back to me and I have not shown up , build a Nought and a starbase in ...
The map doesn't load, i will get back to you with the name when it does.

[D'rek]

Khellendros, on 11 February 2013 - 03:49 PM, said:

Ah, so that's why nothing comes up on the first page. I thought it was my computer For when you're ready:

INFLUENCE the former ancient hex (301?) and put down whichever pop cubes it is I can (science and money I think).

You discover...

JUMP DRIVE!