[Path-Shaper]

Well, that was an interesting read. Sad to see you guys kick off on a night where I am occupied with other stuff and just before an extended break, but you can't have everything.

I'll hurry through to resolution.

A Hadj is called, moving from The Northern Desert to the Mirror.
Everyone on the Northern Desert is moved to the Mirror.

With the disturbances in the Northern Desert, the ayatollah declared that all faithful should leave the battleground until the various savages had finished each other off. The destination for the pilgrimage was the relinquary of Al-Haq, the Prophet's general of camel cavalry. A veritable exodus started - faith does not equate brains, and as the faithful left the heavily fortified, inaccessible monasteries and showed themselves out in the open, raiders fell on them. Thousands were slaughtered. I sent expensively hired detachments of Mamluks of the House of Iron to patrol the roads, sent the City Guard to establish and guard camps near the Mirror, and gave the ayatollah a bit of my anger for the massacre he caused. The poor sod left trembling and white faced.


The Mirror is made Sacrosanct.
Even so, the knowledge that they were on a pilgrimage made the shocked survivors behave well beyond any other mob has ever done. The survivors settled in peacefully, and the Mirror was as calm as ever. I am told the keepers of the relinquary made an insane amount of profit, and enough bones of Al-Haq and his camel were sold to create a battallion of skeletal camel cavalry, if a crazy necromancer ever decided he wanted one.

[Path-Shaper]

Just after the arrival of the hordes of pilgrims, perhaps under influence of my scolding, the ayatollah called upon the faithful to rise up in arms and take back the abandoned monasteries. Raising Al-Haq's standard, a host marched, consisting mostly of those who had left the monasteries and longed for their solitude, but also a few thousand fanatics from the city. As glad as I am to be rid of them, I am not going to allow a disaster to happen. A great many bodies, but few weapons, no armor, and no logistics meant they would be cut to ribbons. I summoned the ayatollah, and pointed this out. He stared at his feet. I ordered him to recall the Hadj to the Mirror. He wouldn't. I raised my voice. He fell to his knees and threw up, but refused still. He even dared to pray to the One God to slay me on the spot with a bolt of lightning, or some other magical nonsense. A God he may be, but acting without intermediaries he cannot.

Finally, I lost my patience. I told the ayatollah that the Temple Guard was to spearhead the Hadj. He acquiesced. I hired ten Janissary regiments, put a trusted City Guard General at their head, and sent them on their way to escort the pilgrims. The tribal army did not confront my troops, not when they were there to await the Golden Standard.

A Hadj has been called to move from the Mirror to the Northern Desert (dusk day 4).

[Ampelas]

Path-Shaper, on 21 November 2012 - 10:53 AM, said:

Well, that was an interesting read. Sad to see you guys kick off on a night where I am occupied with other stuff and just before an extended break, but you can't have everything.

I'll hurry through to resolution.

A Hadj is called, moving from The Northern Desert to the Mirror.
Everyone on the Northern Desert is moved to the Mirror.

With the disturbances in the Northern Desert, the ayatollah declared that all faithful should leave the battleground until the various savages had finished each other off. The destination for the pilgrimage was the relinquary of Al-Haq, the Prophet's general of camel cavalry. A veritable exodus started - faith does not equate brains, and as the faithful left the heavily fortified, inaccessible monasteries and showed themselves out in the open, raiders fell on them. Thousands were slaughtered. I sent expensively hired detachments of Mamluks of the House of Iron to patrol the roads, sent the City Guard to establish and guard camps near the Mirror, and gave the ayatollah a bit of my anger for the massacre he caused. The poor sod left trembling and white faced.


The Mirror is made Sacrosanct.
Even so, the knowledge that they were on a pilgrimage made the shocked survivors behave well beyond any other mob has ever done. The survivors settled in peacefully, and the Mirror was as calm as ever. I am told the keepers of the relinquary made an insane amount of profit, and enough bones of Al-Haq and his camel were sold to create a battallion of skeletal camel cavalry, if a crazy necromancer ever decided he wanted one.

Path-Shaper, on 21 November 2012 - 11:23 AM, said:

Just after the arrival of the hordes of pilgrims, perhaps under influence of my scolding, the ayatollah called upon the faithful to rise up in arms and take back the abandoned monasteries. Raising Al-Haq's standard, a host marched, consisting mostly of those who had left the monasteries and longed for their solitude, but also a few thousand fanatics from the city. As glad as I am to be rid of them, I am not going to allow a disaster to happen. A great many bodies, but few weapons, no armor, and no logistics meant they would be cut to ribbons. I summoned the ayatollah, and pointed this out. He stared at his feet. I ordered him to recall the Hadj to the Mirror. He wouldn't. I raised my voice. He fell to his knees and threw up, but refused still. He even dared to pray to the One God to slay me on the spot with a bolt of lightning, or some other magical nonsense. A God he may be, but acting without intermediaries he cannot.

Finally, I lost my patience. I told the ayatollah that the Temple Guard was to spearhead the Hadj. He acquiesced. I hired ten Janissary regiments, put a trusted City Guard General at their head, and sent them on their way to escort the pilgrims. The tribal army did not confront my troops, not when they were there to await the Golden Standard.

A Hadj has been called to move from the Mirror to the Northern Desert (dusk day 4).

Does Fener have that much power, that is scary. He used sacrosanct (unless that was Spite) and used the Hadj (8 Worship)

[Ampelas]

Also Dusk proceeds Day so I am taking it there is no lynch at the end of the day?

[Emurlahn]

I think that was TWO hadj, 16 worship.

[Path-Shaper]

The forum seems a bit wonky, so I hope all PMs are coming in correctly.
There is no lynch.

It is Day 4. 3 hours and 39 minutes since time out

16 Players still alive: Ampelas, Anomandaris, Atrahal, Emurlahn, Fener, Galain, Karosis, Olar Ethil, Ruse, Silanah, Sorrit, Spite, Telas, Tellan, Tennes, Tulas Shorn

9 votes to lynch, 8 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Tellan ( Spite )
1 Vote for Karosis ( Tulas Shorn )
1 Vote for Emurlahn ( Fener )
9 Votes for Spite ( Ruse, Karosis, Tennes, Telas, Emurlahn, Atrahal, Olar Ethil, Ampelas, Silanah and perhaps some others)

Players not voted: Anomandaris, Galain, Silanah, Sorrit, Tellan

[Ampelas]

So maybe Spite Sacrosancted and Fener Hadjed, if Fener Hadjed both times then 16 worship, AND what was the point? To go and collect anyone on the Mirror tile and bring them to his tile? What is the gain? Another non voter?

[Ampelas]

Also that would put both Spite and Fener at the Northern Desert.

[Ampelas]

Ampelas, on 21 November 2012 - 12:13 PM, said:

Also that would put both Spite and Fener at the Northern Desert.

After night that is, right now they'd both be on the Mirror and people at Ishktar Oasis can target them.

[Emurlahn]

I have difficulty believing that that little dance was conceived without use of off thread communication. At least one way.

Hadj (8 Worship)
Target any tile in the game. You and everyone on your current tile is moved to it, at a movement rate of one tile per phase, through the shortest route possible. If a player is already on a Hadj when targeted with another Hadj, he completes his current Hadj before starting to move to the destination of the second Hadj.
That was a hadj to TM (8,worship), a sacro (6worship), and a 2nd hadj to ND (8 )
Somebody, presumably Fener, wanted to keep somebody unlynchable. And spent mad money doing it.

[Emurlahn]

Ampelas, on 21 November 2012 - 12:14 PM, said:

Ampelas, on 21 November 2012 - 12:13 PM, said:

Also that would put both Spite and Fener at the Northern Desert.

After night that is, right now they'd both be on the Mirror and people at Ishktar Oasis can target them.

No, the second hadj took them back to ND. One tile per phase, not cycle.
I would dearly love to know when the orders for all that came in. The times could tell us much.

[Emurlahn]

And yes, everyone on the mirror is now on ND.

[Atrahal]

Yep, this is what I get from it:
Spite was at The Mirror, but had no way of saving themselves from the lynch. No money, no Worship.
Someone, not necessarily Fener, but someone, who was at the Northern Desert, went to the Mirror, made it Sacrosanct so that Spite could not be lynched, and then whisked both of them (and anyone else who was around) back to the Northern Desert.
If that is what happened, that is audaciousness of the highest order
I feel we need to batter the Northern Desert inhabitants. Either Spite or Fener I guess. They can't produce Worship on that scale forever. Even if they hold out, surely they can't do much else, and eventually those with attacking capabilities can take them out after day's end.

[Atrahal]

The question is, why use Hadj to get to the Mirror? I understand using it to get back, because you want to take others with you, but why use it to get there? If it is a CoV player, they use Worship to move around anyway. A Qadi is presumed to have started up there, but why would they go to the trouble of saving anyone else?

[Emurlahn]

Atrahal, on 21 November 2012 - 12:32 PM, said:

Yep, this is what I get from it:
Spite was at The Mirror, but had no way of saving themselves from the lynch. No money, no Worship.
Someone, not necessarily Fener, but someone, who was at the Northern Desert, went to the Mirror, made it Sacrosanct so that Spite could not be lynched, and then whisked both of them (and anyone else who was around) back to the Northern Desert.
If that is what happened, that is audaciousness of the highest order
I feel we need to batter the Northern Desert inhabitants. Either Spite or Fener I guess. They can't produce Worship on that scale forever. Even if they hold out, surely they can't do much else, and eventually those with attacking capabilities can take them out after day's end.

Agreed, agreed and agreed. That also really suggests that saving Spite was worth exposing some impressive capabilities. What thinkest thou about the off channel com?

[Ampelas]

Emurlahn, on 21 November 2012 - 12:23 PM, said:

I have difficulty believing that that little dance was conceived without use of off thread communication. At least one way.

Hadj (8 Worship)
Target any tile in the game. You and everyone on your current tile is moved to it, at a movement rate of one tile per phase, through the shortest route possible. If a player is already on a Hadj when targeted with another Hadj, he completes his current Hadj before starting to move to the destination of the second Hadj.
That was a hadj to TM (8,worship), a sacro (6worship), and a 2nd hadj to ND (8 )
Somebody, presumably Fener, wanted to keep somebody unlynchable. And spent mad money doing it.

How about getting Water? The Mirror offers water as a tile action.

[Ampelas]

Emurlahn, on 21 November 2012 - 12:38 PM, said:

Atrahal, on 21 November 2012 - 12:32 PM, said:

Yep, this is what I get from it:
Spite was at The Mirror, but had no way of saving themselves from the lynch. No money, no Worship.
Someone, not necessarily Fener, but someone, who was at the Northern Desert, went to the Mirror, made it Sacrosanct so that Spite could not be lynched, and then whisked both of them (and anyone else who was around) back to the Northern Desert.
If that is what happened, that is audaciousness of the highest order
I feel we need to batter the Northern Desert inhabitants. Either Spite or Fener I guess. They can't produce Worship on that scale forever. Even if they hold out, surely they can't do much else, and eventually those with attacking capabilities can take them out after day's end.

Agreed, agreed and agreed. That also really suggests that saving Spite was worth exposing some impressive capabilities. What thinkest thou about the off channel com?

Yes this makes a lot of sense.

[Emurlahn]

Ampelas, on 21 November 2012 - 12:38 PM, said:

How about getting Water? The Mirror offers water as a tile action.

Caffeine Amp, caffeine.

22 worship to go someplace that produces 2 extra water at dawn, but then don't stay until dawn?

[Emurlahn]

It also makes me think there's a reason nobody has proposed any other alliance. Whoever choreographed that dance thinks they can win all by themselves.

[Ampelas]

Emurlahn, on 21 November 2012 - 12:44 PM, said:

Ampelas, on 21 November 2012 - 12:38 PM, said:

How about getting Water? The Mirror offers water as a tile action.

Caffeine Amp, caffeine.

22 worship to go someplace that produces 2 extra water at dawn, but then don't stay until dawn?

Took a knock on the head, must be something to do with my brain, going to smack myself in the forehead now...