[Vengeance]

Shinrei, on 07 November 2012 - 04:47 AM, said:

10 month old daughter does NOT sleep well at night. Still haven't figured out what to do with that.

She has 8 teeth, more than mini-venge, but apparently girls are supposed to get their teeth faster than boys.

Dogs...man, we are going to need to get her a dog. She loves to watch them when out and about, and if they bark (even huge big scary barks) it sends her into giggling fits. No fear, just pure amusement.

Mini-Venge loves dogs too. The wife isn't so keen to get him a dog just yet. She has read to many things of dogs eating kids faces. I suspect that a wow-wow is a couple of years off.


Mrs Venge asked the same questions about the feeding's of Shinnite.


Little-Veng's was this when he was 10 months. He got a bottle with every nap.

(He was still on a two nap schedule)

First nap at 8:30 or 9 am. This was the long nap. He would sleep until 11:30 or noon.

Another bottle and nap at 1:30 or 2pm. At ten months it would take him about a half an hour to 45 minutes to fall asleep (we would leave him in his nursery) and then he would sleep for 30 to an hour.

Bath time was at 5:30pm. Followed by bottle and bed.

We had him in his own nursery from 5 or 6 weeks on I think. I finally reached a point where he had to go to the other room. We have a day/night video monitor which was HUGE in allowing us to move him down the hall.

[A Demon Llama!]

I don't want to give any bad tips, but here is a bunch of pretty useful looking photos as to how to spend quality time with your kid.

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[Eddie Dean]

Just had my first kid 9 days ago. Its unbelievable really how much the little guy immediately changed my life for the better. Now if we can just get him to go to sleep from 10-3.

[Traveller]

Vengeance, on 09 November 2012 - 05:31 PM, said:

Shinrei, on 07 November 2012 - 04:47 AM, said:

10 month old daughter does NOT sleep well at night. Still haven't figured out what to do with that.

She has 8 teeth, more than mini-venge, but apparently girls are supposed to get their teeth faster than boys.

Dogs...man, we are going to need to get her a dog. She loves to watch them when out and about, and if they bark (even huge big scary barks) it sends her into giggling fits. No fear, just pure amusement.

We had him in his own nursery from 5 or 6 weeks on I think. I finally reached a point where he had to go to the other room. We have a day/night video monitor which was HUGE in allowing us to move him down the hall.

We have a video monitor; had it about a year now. Its great, just to click a button to check on her. Its got a portable screen bit like an iphone, so we have it downstairs with us in the evening. Good to be able to check without disturbing her.

Useful tip.. if your kid wakes up a lot, check the room temp, and the light. My girl used to wake up a lot until we put a dim night light in; now if she wakes she can see where she is and goes back to sleep. Also wakes up if its a bit chilly in the early hours.

[Acorn]

Eddie Dean, on 10 November 2012 - 03:49 PM, said:

Just had my first kid 9 days ago. Its unbelievable really how much the little guy immediately changed my life for the better. Now if we can just get him to go to sleep from 10-3.

Congratulations!!!!

It will take a bit before he'll get into a point to sleep longer than a couple of hours (typically) but honestly, I loved every second of every day mine was so young. Even when he was waking up every hour or so to look around (mine was and is a very quiet baby though, almost never cried when he was 0-12 weeks old)

My experience is a bit different than most, because of his size it wasn't as if I ever had a "tiny baby" to hold and wonder over... he came out the size of a 3 month old lol.

If you have a big enough bed, try co-sleeping. That's what we did, and as long as the mother's breastfeeding, you both will hardly wake up when he gets hungry again. She'll just be able to pop a boob in his mouth and he'll eat until he stops to fall asleep again.

Co-sleeping is NOT dangerous for the baby when it's done properly. If neither parent is drinking or smoking, or taking any drugs/medications that make them sleep too deeply (like ambien or some pain meds) then there is very little risk to the child.

If you're bed is big enough to provide a space for him without taking too much room, and if the bed itself is not too soft (though they baby at that age is rather unlikely to roll over anyway) then go for it. It'll put a strain on any intercourse, but that's what other rooms in the house are for when you have a baby sleeping in your bedroom. =P

But seriously, few people Co-sleep with their babies out of fear, but until the baby is old enough to roll over, it's a very easy-on-the-parents option. Even my girlfriend rarely woke up when he did to eat - she'd just switch sides with him and let him eat while she was mostly asleep, because it becomes habit. But the dad usually sleeps through the whole process... It sure as hell beats waking up, having to walk to a crib or bassinet in order to get the baby, then bring him/her to the mother (or get a bottle ready, hopefully with breast milk) in order to put the baby back down to sleep....

=)

Hope that helps, if there are other circumstances let me know - this is a common enough "problem" most parents face, including our couples that we teach.

[Shinrei]

Acorn, on 09 November 2012 - 04:53 PM, said:

Can you provide me some more details? In PM if you prefer... but here are some of the things I need to know:

Are you still breastfeeding (which is preferred of course, even if you've added solids)?
What sort of solids are your giving her?
How often and when is she waking up?
Is she in a nursery or in your bedroom?
(If you're breastfeeding) have you changed your diet much? Any Medications?
And do you have a set routine developed for her?

Breastfeeding ended when she was about 6 months old. She gets formula now, but not as much anymore.
Solids are various baby foods and baby recipes my wife cooks up, usually involving rice. She gets yoghurt and bananas regularly. She poops 3-6 times a day (usually right after she has her bottle) and they're totally normal. She doesn't poo at night really, it's a very rare thing for us to have to change a diaper at night. (no cloth ones here)
She doesn't "wake up",really, she loses her nuk/binky/dummy and starts fussing. You put it in her mouth and she goes back to sleep immediately. So she's not sleeping straight through the night, but she's not really keeping us 'awake' rather than she's simply interrupting our sleep. The problem arises when she has a tossy-turny night (probably 2 or 3 a week) where she just can't seem to sleep still. This doesn't wake her up, but she loses the binky more often which does the trick. She doesn't demand food/milk, but sometimes we find that giving her some water/juice does the trick and gets her to calm down.
No medications. She's sleeping with us at the moment, simply because the binky thing makes it a hassle to keep running to her room where her crib is. If we don't get there in time, she can wake up for realz and then wants to play which, as you can guess, is the situation we try to avoid.

Routine: 5:30 bath. 6:00 food. Playtime. Read her books at about 8:00, sing her some songs and then off to bed, where it can take anywhere from 10 minutes to an hour to get her to settle down. So bedtime tends to be around 9:00. After that, between 12:00am and 1:00am she takes a bottle, and that seems to keep her 'fed' until breakfast. We haven't been able to eliminate that bottle - she's gonna wake up if she doesn't get it (she drinks it while half-asleep).

Sorry for the long post.

edited to add: she only uses the pacifier when she sleeps. When she's awake, she doesn't use it at all.

This post has been edited by Shinrei: 11 November 2012 - 04:20 PM

[Acorn]

Shinrei, on 11 November 2012 - 04:19 PM, said:

Breastfeeding ended when she was about 6 months old. She gets formula now, but not as much anymore.
Solids are various baby foods and baby recipes my wife cooks up, usually involving rice. She gets yoghurt and bananas regularly. She poops 3-6 times a day (usually right after she has her bottle) and they're totally normal. She doesn't poo at night really, it's a very rare thing for us to have to change a diaper at night. (no cloth ones here)
She doesn't "wake up",really, she loses her nuk/binky/dummy and starts fussing. You put it in her mouth and she goes back to sleep immediately. So she's not sleeping straight through the night, but she's not really keeping us 'awake' rather than she's simply interrupting our sleep. The problem arises when she has a tossy-turny night (probably 2 or 3 a week) where she just can't seem to sleep still. This doesn't wake her up, but she loses the binky more often which does the trick. She doesn't demand food/milk, but sometimes we find that giving her some water/juice does the trick and gets her to calm down.
No medications. She's sleeping with us at the moment, simply because the binky thing makes it a hassle to keep running to her room where her crib is. If we don't get there in time, she can wake up for realz and then wants to play which, as you can guess, is the situation we try to avoid.

Routine: 5:30 bath. 6:00 food. Playtime. Read her books at about 8:00, sing her some songs and then off to bed, where it can take anywhere from 10 minutes to an hour to get her to settle down. So bedtime tends to be around 9:00. After that, between 12:00am and 1:00am she takes a bottle, and that seems to keep her 'fed' until breakfast. We haven't been able to eliminate that bottle - she's gonna wake up if she doesn't get it (she drinks it while half-asleep).

Sorry for the long post.

edited to add: she only uses the pacifier when she sleeps. When she's awake, she doesn't use it at all.

Helpful information on how babies sleep - some of the things you said may be covered here - such as the baby seeming to be fussing/etc while sleeping - these things are typically known to be normal, and some parents think that means the baby is hungry, so they feed them with the idea that it is why the baby is turning over and making noises... But babies just do that sometimes in their sleep =p



http://www.askdrsear...ent-should-know



Helpful ways to get your baby to stay asleep and hopefully for a longer period of time...

http://www.askdrsear...and-stay-asleep



Not sure about the pacifier - My boy actually pulls his pacifier out sometimes while he sleeps... So I don't know, he doesn't really mind the pacifier, and it helps him fall asleep, but as I said, it doesn't much matter after he is asleep.


3-6 times seems like a lot for me (Ace poops typically 1-2 times daily) but the range of "normal" for babies is huge, so it's not unusual, so no worries there (UNLESS it was something that developed in tandem with the switch to formula from breast milk. Then it might be a nutritional thing Formula is very inferior to breast milk.)

I'm glad she likes a good variety of solids/real foods! That's awesome - my boy has barely started on them and so far has only really liked sweet apples (and sweet/sour ones)

And I am impressed (and thankful) that you guys breast fed for 6 months - there are too many people that stop when it gets hard or if they run into "problems".!

So please let her know that she is awesome!

Dr. Sears (the links above) is a very well known and highly regarded Doctor and influence in Baby-knowledge stuff (no idea what the real term for it is) so please read the things he says, he is intelligent and provides knowledge and insight that are geared towards the health and well being of the BABY - NOT the CONVENIENCE of the parents... Which is sadly what most "modern medicine and doctors" provide and insist on.

-Me

This post has been edited by Acorn: 12 November 2012 - 06:19 PM

[Vengeance]

Shinrei, on 11 November 2012 - 04:19 PM, said:

Routine: 5:30 bath. 6:00 food. Playtime. Read her books at about 8:00, sing her some songs and then off to bed, where it can take anywhere from 10 minutes to an hour to get her to settle down. So bedtime tends to be around 9:00. After that, between 12:00am and 1:00am she takes a bottle, and that seems to keep her 'fed' until breakfast. We haven't been able to eliminate that bottle - she's gonna wake up if she doesn't get it (she drinks it while half-asleep).

Sorry for the long post.

edited to add: she only uses the pacifier when she sleeps. When she's awake, she doesn't use it at all.

I suggest that you speed up her night time and get her in bed a lot earlier. We do bath then bottle and book and bed. E's bedtime routine is quite swift once he is out of the bath. Out of the bath to bed is probably 15 minutes now. When he was 10 months it was probably 20. You might want to try to slowly get rid of the binky. Take it away for one of the naps. Then away for both of the naps. Then away for bed time. That should cut down on that fussing. It will probably take a week to get rid of.

Around 5 or 6pm does she lay down on the floor and put her head in her hands. That is an indication that they are tired. If you miss the first signs then they will get a second wind and it will be a while before you can get them down.

[HiddenOne]

Venge is right, the second wind is evil

[Abstruse]

We are in a phase right now.. we all lay in the big bed to go to sleep.. Sometimes they go into their own beds after they're asleep, sometimes not.. I don't mind, they're snuggly and warm, lol..
Because of my son's autism sometimes he wakes in the middle of the night (3-4am) and will chatter and play with my hair.. But I'd say he wakes at most once a week, most of the times he cries and once in bed with us goes right back out (he's 5)
Little miss (7 soon) wakes if she is scared or not feeling well.. And again, the big bed fixes that

[cerveza_fiesta]

BEWARE THE POOPSPLOSION or the POO-NAMI

If baby is constipated, she is a ticking time bomb. It might not come out at all while you're at the mall or out for a stroll in the park....but if it does, god help the innocents nearby!

[McLovin]

Man, I can't believe mine are 6 years old. Once you get past that first year, things just go into warp speed.

I remember 10 months being a hard time. We had to wean off the bedtime bottle and that was about two weeks of pure hell.

[Una]

It's interesting. I can't really see myself co-sleeping. I'm a very active sleeper. Since I was little, I could not sleep with a teddy bear because whenever I did, without fail, any stuffed toy I had would end up on the floor by morning. I turn over constantly when I sleep, usually in the same direction each time. Just last night, I woke up because I was cycloning and had tried to roll onto and over my husband, and he's much bigger than me. I'm just not going to risk it with a baby.

[McLovin]

Well, you know they do have those co-sleeper things you can roll up to the side of the bed. That way the baby's with you, but separate.

We never did co-sleeping so don't have much else to say.

[cerveza_fiesta]

Health canada would shoot me in the head if I did co-sleeping I'm sure.

We have been keeping the crib in a 2nd bedroom and a single bed in the same room. Somebody is in the room with her through the night, but it ends there. In the crib we just wrap her up tight in a swaddle and plunk her on the mattress. Sometimes a double-swaddle if it's cold. Technically you're not supposed to do that either, but once you get good at it, swaddles are safe enough. Plus swaddles (esp the storebought velcro jobbies) are the almighty saviour when it comes to getting infants to sleep. We just use giant squares of cotton muslin, but any soft fabric bigger than 36" on a side will do.

I dunno, there's so much terrifying literature out there about SIDS, which is this retarded catchall acronym used to describe every means of accidental baby death that isn't intentionally caused by a parent. If you're smart about it, preventable forms of SIDS are easy to avoid and there's no good reason you need to share your bed with the wee-one. Especially if you might inadvertently toss her on the floor while sleeping!

[HiddenOne]

don't do it, it's hard as crap to kick them out once they become self-aware and learn to use the heart-twisting powers only a little one can possess

EDIT: have to admit, I did it wrong for a long time, my little girl wants to stay up as late as I do because of this

This post has been edited by HiddenOne: 14 November 2012 - 11:14 PM

[Shinrei]

Co-sleeping is the main method in Japan. Most of the co-sleeping lasts until elementary school. This will NOT happen in chez Shin, and my wife is on board. We'd both rather have the little one in her own crib, and maybe once we kick this binky habit, that will happen. I have a co-worker who moans about the fact he is still co-sleeping with his sons (6 and 4) and his daughter (1). It's because his wife insists that's "The Japanese way", and he has no balls.

Swaddling didn't work with our girl. If she can't move, she freaks out. That's part of the reason she thrashes around so much now. It's winter, we've got her blanketed up and all she wants to do is sleep-escape from the confines.

[Acorn]

cerveza_fiesta, on 14 November 2012 - 07:17 PM, said:

Health canada would shoot me in the head if I did co-sleeping I'm sure.

We have been keeping the crib in a 2nd bedroom and a single bed in the same room. Somebody is in the room with her through the night, but it ends there. In the crib we just wrap her up tight in a swaddle and plunk her on the mattress. Sometimes a double-swaddle if it's cold. Technically you're not supposed to do that either, but once you get good at it, swaddles are safe enough. Plus swaddles (esp the storebought velcro jobbies) are the almighty saviour when it comes to getting infants to sleep. We just use giant squares of cotton muslin, but any soft fabric bigger than 36" on a side will do.

I dunno, there's so much terrifying literature out there about SIDS, which is this retarded catchall acronym used to describe every means of accidental baby death that isn't intentionally caused by a parent. If you're smart about it, preventable forms of SIDS are easy to avoid and there's no good reason you need to share your bed with the wee-one. Especially if you might inadvertently toss her on the floor while sleeping!

I admit to knowing little to nothing about Canadian Law, and I live in Florida, USA so the cold isn't exactly a huge issue... But if I'm understanding the "swaddles" you're talking about (basically a gown with a sewn shut bottom instead of an open one) they are called bagsleepers sometimes. They are perfect for newborns and 1-3 month old (in size if not in age) because it mimics the action of the legs on the sac itself. Most babies strain their legs some while sleeping while still inside the womb.

Also, SIDS is sadly abused as a diagnosis and I'm glad you recognize that - however there are far fewer (over 80% fewer) cases of SIDS in families that Co-sleep than there are in families that do not. The actual occurrence of "SIDS" in countries where Co-sleeping is the norm is virtually non-existent.

I know that personally I constantly check the baby throughout the night, without even really having to wake up - I just put my hand on his torso and make sure the blanket is covering him enough. She is also checking on him throughout the night and when he wakes up he is instantly comforted.

In a crib there are any number of things that can go wrong if the parents prepared wrong. And the same thing translates to co-sleeping. If a soft mattress is present, that can cause infant death, in the bed or in a crib. So obviously preparation is necessary.

Check these out if you're still not convinced.

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HiddenOne, on 14 November 2012 - 11:12 PM, said:

don't do it, it's hard as crap to kick them out once they become self-aware and learn to use the heart-twisting powers only a little one can possess

EDIT: have to admit, I did it wrong for a long time, my little girl wants to stay up as late as I do because of this

Yes, the breaking of the "sleeping in Mommy/Daddy's bed habit can be hard - though I would be lying if I said that would make me hesitate to start Co-sleeping. I can deal with the issues that might come up.. But as it is, he sleeps in his crib during all naps and sometimes for half the night (but only rarely) so hopefully over time he'll not fight too hard! =p

Shinrei, on 14 November 2012 - 11:14 PM, said:

Co-sleeping is the main method in Japan. Most of the co-sleeping lasts until elementary school. This will NOT happen in chez Shin, and my wife is on board. We'd both rather have the little one in her own crib, and maybe once we kick this binky habit, that will happen. I have a co-worker who moans about the fact he is still co-sleeping with his sons (6 and 4) and his daughter (1). It's because his wife insists that's "The Japanese way", and he has no balls.

Swaddling didn't work with our girl. If she can't move, she freaks out. That's part of the reason she thrashes around so much now. It's winter, we've got her blanketed up and all she wants to do is sleep-escape from the confines.

I couldn't do it for that long. My bed just isn't big enough hahaha.... It's barely big enough for him as it is. there's no room for him to turn over completely, which is a good thing, as I don't want him to be sleeping on his stomach. (He's ovder 28" tall and 23 lbs and neither my GF nor I are small. I'm 5'9" and 195 lbs)

Is the baby between you and your wife? if she is then she can't kick the blanket off, and it won't be as pressing on her because you are obviously bigger, and as such the blanket will be resting on you two more than her.

If the baby is between you two, in a onsie/baby sleeper then the temperature won't be an issue - if you're comfortable, she will be comfy... However, if she is between you and still having trouble by wanting to be less confined - have her sleep Nakie as well as your Wife. This will help add heat in the blankets for them as naked bodies naturally feed each other more heat.

This is a beautiful and amazing part of nature's design... A Baby's temperature can be regulated by skin-to-skin contact with the mother. The Mother can bring the baby's temperature up OR down based on what the baby needs in newborns (likely in older babies too, but I can't be certain of that without more research, will do so after posting)


A note about Co-sleeping in general:

Co-sleeping is an important decision, and shouldn't be done without the proper preparation - such as bringing in the right kind of mattress, which sometimes means replacing the entire bed. Making sure the blanket you're using isn't going to block the baby's nose and get stuck. Making sure that NEITHER parent drinks much or takes medication that causes deep sleep.

I'm not a heavy sleeper, I constantly toss and turn. I used to wake up with her using a different blanket because I'd have taken the entire other one with my twisting. That being said, I am not a mindless turner now that he's in the bed and has been for nearly 7 months. In fact, I had to start being careful before the birth, in hopes of not disturbing her much late in the pregnancy. It's something you become conscious of. I don't know many people who have a baby and do not instantly worry about being extra careful anyways... I didn't sleep for 3 days after he was born because I was busy looking at him and wanting to watch his every breath while she slept. I'm a bit of a sap =p

[McLovin]

Bag sleepers are different from swaddling. Swaddling is a method for wrapping a blanket tightly around a baby so their limbs are restricted. According to pediatricians, most babies actually like this. One of mine did, the other used it to hone her escape artist skills.

[Shinrei]

Vengeance, on 12 November 2012 - 06:31 PM, said:

Shinrei, on 11 November 2012 - 04:19 PM, said:

Routine: 5:30 bath. 6:00 food. Playtime. Read her books at about 8:00, sing her some songs and then off to bed, where it can take anywhere from 10 minutes to an hour to get her to settle down. So bedtime tends to be around 9:00. After that, between 12:00am and 1:00am she takes a bottle, and that seems to keep her 'fed' until breakfast. We haven't been able to eliminate that bottle - she's gonna wake up if she doesn't get it (she drinks it while half-asleep).

Sorry for the long post.

edited to add: she only uses the pacifier when she sleeps. When she's awake, she doesn't use it at all.

I suggest that you speed up her night time and get her in bed a lot earlier. We do bath then bottle and book and bed. E's bedtime routine is quite swift once he is out of the bath. Out of the bath to bed is probably 15 minutes now. When he was 10 months it was probably 20. You might want to try to slowly get rid of the binky. Take it away for one of the naps. Then away for both of the naps. Then away for bed time. That should cut down on that fussing. It will probably take a week to get rid of.

Around 5 or 6pm does she lay down on the floor and put her head in her hands. That is an indication that they are tired. If you miss the first signs then they will get a second wind and it will be a while before you can get them down.

Bath isnt until six because i get home about 530. She gets bath before her dinner, so between the tub and being fed she is then ready to play, not sleep.