[worry]

For the record, Disney has announced that all Star Wars activity on Tumblr is definitely now canon.

[Brujah]

protoclave, on 05 January 2016 - 04:23 PM, said:

i no im coming late to this discusion without reading prior pages but did anyone consider rey might be luke's daughter?

I think so. Her memories of being left as a young girl were probably due to an attempt to hide her from any malicious parties, the same way they hid the fact that Vader also had a daughter.

[Brujah]

That or maybe she's Obi Wan's granddaughter.

[worry]

I think we can at least all agree that she's somebody's daughter. Let's start there.

[amphibian]

Obi Wan got laid? Nope.

Died a 68 year old virgin as all monks should. They've been eschewing the tonsure hair tho.

[QuickTidal]

amphibian, on 15 January 2016 - 02:43 AM, said:

Obi Wan got laid? Nope.

Died a 68 year old virgin as all monks should. They've been eschewing the tonsure hair tho.

Someone hasn't been watching THE CLONE WARS.

There is canon proof that Obi-Wan had a relationship, probably even a sexual one, with Satine, once leader of Mandalore.

I'm actually very on board with Rey being the the daughter of Luke and a female daughter that Obi-Wan secretly had (either as an older man on Tatooine, or from his time with Satine [and he just was unaware of the child]). Either way, a Skywalker-Kenobi bloodline? That's awesome!

[Silencer]

QuickTidal, on 15 January 2016 - 11:33 AM, said:

amphibian, on 15 January 2016 - 02:43 AM, said:

Obi Wan got laid? Nope.

Died a 68 year old virgin as all monks should. They've been eschewing the tonsure hair tho.

Someone hasn't been watching THE CLONE WARS.

There is canon proof that Obi-Wan had a relationship, probably even a sexual one, with Satine, once leader of Mandalore.

I'm actually very on board with Rey being the the daughter of Luke and a female daughter that Obi-Wan secretly had (either as an older man on Tatooine, or from his time with Satine [and he just was unaware of the child]). Either way, a Skywalker-Kenobi bloodline? That's awesome!

No, it's a terrible idea and just makes the Luke-super-lineage even more ridiculous. XD

Even a Kenobi relationship is a bit of a cop-out (but much better than a Skywalker).

[Illuyankas]

Please leave your fanfiction to the properly segregated EU authors tia

[Silencer]

Ok, I may have accidentally deleted your post QT (I'm on mobile, the button is right there and has no 'are you sure?' check like the full version), I'll restore it later. XD


But to respond: as I said, I'd be happier with a Kenobi bloodline (the symmetry is ok... It's not exactly amazing though. I mean, that's the most basic of plot symmetry I can think of. >.>), but yes.

I am DEFINITELY a Rey Random supporter. If she turns out to be a Skywalker, I will almost certainly not be happy. I don't care how they try to justify that, it's lazy writing with a horrendous focusing down on the one family that was never that blatant in the past (even the prequels were not bad on this front, with just the obligatory Anakin plot-relevant). It would be a huge misstep, and I think the general opinion follows that. I haven't talked to anyone who wants Rey to be Luke's kid.

Let Ren be the Skywalker link of this generation. Let Rey be someone new and random. Bring the magic of the Force back instead of clinging to the midichlorian bloodline of doom bullshit that Lucas ruined the concept with. XD

The Kenobi thing is about as much as I can accept. Seriously, another Skywalker and I'll be jumping ship and crying foul along with Linear and the rest. Just...no.

[QuickTidal]

Yeah, if she's anything obvious, she's Luke and Someone's kid. For SURE.

So prepare thyself for disappointment Silencer.

[Silencer]

QuickTidal, on 16 January 2016 - 03:42 AM, said:

Yeah, if she's anything obvious, she's Luke and Someone's kid. For SURE.

So prepare thyself for disappointment Silencer.

I think they'd be doing themsleves a disservice. They spent an entire movie not telling us (i.e. Building suspense). If it's the obvious option that literally *everyone* has seen coming? What a let down. That's just bad film making, too.
No one wants it, it doesn't need to happen, and it will be boring. Why do it? Why waste that opportunity? For some imagined need that the Star Wars universe revolves around Skywalkers? Please.
If there is one complaint that everyone had about this film, it's that it followed the plot and progression of ANH *too* closely - to make Rey a Skywalker in an "I am your father" moment? That would be doing the opposite of breaking out into new territory like we want.

Completely serious, I don't think they're that stupid, and if they are I'm just going to be annoyed. It's a waste of her character.

[Silencer]

Raging Cajun Gator King, on 16 January 2016 - 04:00 AM, said:

The thing is though is that the universe does revolve around the Skywalker line in the Saga films. They are getting around this nexus with the anthology films but any film with an Episode in title will be Skywalker heavy.

Nope. While it's true that the story of the prequels and the OT is the story of the Skywalker family, the mover and shaker on the antagonist side is Palpatine. Anakin is only incidental to the Clone War plot from a geopolitical perspective. Same as Luke is just a hero of the rebellion until it becomes the family affair we see in RotJ.

The Clone Wars and the Rebellion have Skywalkers at the centre of events yes, but they aren't the instigators or the prime actors for most of the events in those stories.

And like I said. Let Ren be the Skywalker lineage. We have that already. He's there. He's of Anakin's blood. Let him be the requisite Skywalker of the universe. There's no need to make Rey one too, except for story symmetry. And that's exactly why it's a good thing that Lucas isn't involved - he would have made Rey be an immaculate conception birthed from Luke somehow, because of his beliefs about the importance of a Skywalker to the universe. But that's not the case any more because he's not involved. We can be free of that rubbish. XD

[QuickTidal]

Sil, if you think Rey is not a Skywalker, I feel like you have a REALLY rude awakening coming. She will be.

But yeah, aside from all else I'm not at all sure I understand you're whole (Just let Kylo be the Skywalker, we don't need another) statement. What's so wrong with the conflict partially arising from Rey and Kyo being related (even as cousins). I find that inherantly interesting...and it's not been done before. The power clash is immense, and is coupled with the familial generational links. The storytelling possibilities are huge.

This post has been edited by QuickTidal: 16 January 2016 - 02:18 PM

[Silencer]

QuickTidal, on 16 January 2016 - 02:16 PM, said:

Sil, if you think Rey is not a Skywalker, I feel like you have a REALLY rude awakening coming. She will be.

But yeah, aside from all else I'm not at all sure I understand you're whole (Just let Kylo be the Skywalker, we don't need another) statement. What's so wrong with the conflict partially arising from Rey and Kyo being related (even as cousins). I find that inherantly interesting...and it's not been done before. The power clash is immense, and is coupled with the familial generational links. The storytelling possibilities are huge.

It's not been done before? It's only likely *because* it's been done before. As I said, it's boring and predictable. There's nothing interesting about it, nothing new to be gained.
Heck, it undermines Rey's character. If she's a Skywalker, she's no longer a strong female character, she's just a vessel for the all-powerful Skywalker midichlorians to be central to the universe. It'd ruin her.

You know that Mary Sue debate we had earlier where I was totally on the same side as you? If she's a Skywalker, she's a Mary Sue of the worst kind. 'Long hidden bloodline' is a cliche trope in and of itself, and for a new, awesome character full of potential like Rey, it would reduce the plot to the level of fanfiction.
I'm dead serious: it would be the worst decision they could make.

[Silencer]

Basically, this article: http://www.theverge....y-jedi-kylo-ren

See? I'm not the only one. And pretty much everyone I've talked to (save yourself) is in the same boat.

[QuickTidal]

I'd go visit the force.net...most star was fans feel she's a Skywalker...and that there is nothing wrong with that.

Also, the fact that Anakin's/Luke's light saber went to her is not a coincidence man. Not even remotely.

[worry]

If Rey is Luke's daughter, I'm siding with Hasbro after all.

[Slow Ben]

Considering all the original ideas this movie exploded with, there's no way she was a Skywalker left on a desert planet.

This post has been edited by Slow Ben: 16 January 2016 - 11:25 PM

[QuickTidal]

I seriously can't believe that with the proof of the Skywalker family light saber being in her hands tha this is even up for discussion. She's Luke's daughter.

[Silencer]

QuickTidal, on 16 January 2016 - 04:26 PM, said:

I'd go visit the force.net...most star was fans feel she's a Skywalker...and that there is nothing wrong with that.

Also, the fact that Anakin's/Luke's light saber went to her is not a coincidence man. Not even remotely.

TheForce.net is the uber-hardcore fandom, dude. Most 'Star Wars fans' = like half the planet. XD isn't TFN the place where people had a collective nervous breakdown over the loss of the EU? XD it's in no way more representative of the fandom than literally everyone else on the internet.