[Korvalain]

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[Tellan]

Korvalain, on 11 October 2012 - 12:43 PM, said:

Blah Blah Blah - etc

And with the train secure, he leaves.

Vote Tulas Shorn.

If you mean this, I was referring to the fact that our strengthening and weakening of other cases was way better than this, also, I got distracted by your next post where you pretty much shut down my original argument that I posted earlier today. Yet, now that I expanded on it, I hope you have changed your mind.

[Olar Ethil]

Korvalain, on 12 October 2012 - 12:14 AM, said:

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Are you switching because you think the case on Sorrit is stronger than your own case on Tulas, or because you don't think you can get a lynch on Tulas?

[Korvalain]

I'm switching because my review of cases is making me lean sorrit more than tulas.

[Olar Ethil]

Sorrit, on 11 October 2012 - 09:15 AM, said:

I'm not surprised that Lio turned out innocent. I didn't finger him as scum. Annoying but not scum.

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Day 1 is over.
13 Players still alive: Emurlahn, Fener, Galain, Karosis, Korvalain, Liosan, Meanas, Olar Ethi, Osseric, Sorrit, Spite, Tellan, Tulas Shorn

7 votes to lynch, 7 votes to go to night.

3 Votes for Tellan ( Karosis, Sorrit, Liosan )
7 Votes for Liosan ( Korvalain, Meanas, Galain, Osseric, Tellan, Spite, Olar Ethil)

Players not voted: Emurlahn, Fener, Tulas Shorn

Osseric and Tellan's vote stand out to me. They made sure that Liosan was the one to go down day one. I'll go back and see what reasons they had to vote him over anybody else.

Sorrit, on 11 October 2012 - 09:17 AM, said:

Osseric, on 10 October 2012 - 09:49 PM, said:

Meh. I don't think anything else is going to be viable before timeout, but I will be around if something comes up.

Vote Liosan

3 hours until timeout. This is a "safe" post and reason to vote but Tellan was also on the table and his play was just as erratic as Lio's.

Tellan, on 10 October 2012 - 09:52 PM, said:

Remove Vote

Vote Liosan


Fuck you, you could have voted with me you idiot and I wouldn't have switched. But since you voted for me, I have no choice but to kick you in the teeth.

Omgus. No going back here if someone wanted to out someone else.



Out of the two Osseric' vote doesn't sit right with me at all.

Sorrit, did you ever take this any further? I forgot Osseric was even playing. Why did you abandon this train of thought in favour of Meanas?

[Osseric]

I almost forgot I was playing, too. No one is around at the same time as me it seems.

[Tellan]

Well there is now. So contribute you low posting hiding freakshow.

[Osseric]

so much anger tellan.

A lot of my thoughts on the current cases have already been posted. I get the impression that Sorrit is harping a bit on the signaling aspect of his case on Meanas, which works day one but doesn't carry well into day two without more substance. On the other hand there's a lot of little circumstantial bits about his play that bother me. Like this sort of flip-flopping:

Sorrit, on 10 October 2012 - 07:29 AM, said:

Right now there isn't much out there. people are laying low or not being very vocal. Tellan strikes me as one of thos eplayers that will piss around for the first day or so, look scummy but then be quite good come end game. So i'm less likely to look at him. Liosan at least is posting. I can't fault that. Right now there aren't too many hours left and there are quite a few people that haven't formed any opinions or given us much to go off.

Sorrit, on 10 October 2012 - 03:01 PM, said:

REMOVE VOTE



VOTE TELLAN



OMGUS!

Sorrit, on 11 October 2012 - 09:10 AM, said:

I'm around. I didn't lay a vote down because I wasn't sure on who to go for and I already had a vote on Tellan which I was more than happy with

Where essentially he began the game with a very serious attitude, then swaps to a semi-joke vote that he never moves. He previously expressed an opinion that he thought Tellan was just being silly, but didn't find that play inherently suspicious--but later, he's ok with that vote? Then he disappeared after claiming he would reread / change his vote, failed to, and preemptively apologized for it right after night resolved. Just doesn't sit right with me.

The main problem here is that I'd expect at least one scum to be on the Lio train, and the fact Sorrit didn't swap does count in his favor when you look at it that way.

[Osseric]

1 anon reading (me).

I truly am the thread-killer.




I have some more thoughts re: ts, gonna grab food and collect those thoughts before posting. In short, though, I do like the first half of your case korv, regarding his interactions with tellan. The way I see it right now is that if tellan is inno then I'd consider sorrit pretty scummy based on his flip-flopping and reactions, but if tellan is scum then the notion that TS is his symp seems pretty reasonable.

[Karosis]

Thread! Revivify!

[Karosis]

On the Sorrit accusations:
I think the OMGUS accusations, while true, have little evidence pointing to sorrit being scum. However, sorrit has tried salmost too hard to be a helpful townie, and when he realized this, his play became too erratic, and he panicked.this has been done before, and i've grown suspicious of it. There's only one way to truly tell if sorrit is scum...

Vote Sorrit

Ps. This is not an OMGUS vote from sorrits accusations against me.

[Karosis]

I'll be on for maybe another half Hour if anyone has thoughts

[Karosis]

Fuck, i just re read over the TS case, which also seems like a generally sound case. Though i still think Sorrit has with more suspicious actions and each of more obviousness than TS's, it ks often small slip ups that catch scum, not big ones. However, there is too much pointing to Sorrit. I will stick to my guns for now. However, if Sorrit turns up inno, I'll beed to take a look at TS again. If he truns up scum, we all know the drill. Connections, connevtions, connections.

Sory for the meandering post. Very tired

[Karosis]

I'm off to bed. I know i waited less than 30 minutes but im drifting off as i type... Night all

[Osseric]

My thoughts on TS:



His post history is essentially..
- Discounts Tellan as scummy
- Puts down the case on Karosis, says it'd be nothing more than signaling (the train Tellan sorta pushed by adding the third vote)
- Implores Tellan to act less eccentrically
- The whole "if I vote sorrit for you" thing with Tellan

- Backpedals from that after OE calls him out
- Waffles about dropping the hammer
- TS responds to the case

I don't think the last bit about failing to vote makes TS scummy, since scum would have no reason not to hammer like that. But everything else makes TS seem very sympish to me, pointing to Tellan as the scum. But he also could've tried to push the Karosis train if he were Tellan's symp, so it's hard to say.

TS's response to the case on him seemed a bit odd to me. It had an almost too-conciliatory manner to it.

I could see how some of the things he's said re: Tellan make him seem sympish, but in that case shouldn't we be voting Tellan? Overall I don't see a strong enough case on TS to lynch him.

[Osseric]

Everyone must be across the pond or something.

Day times out in about 10 hours. I probably won't be awake by the time it ends, so:

Vote Sorrit

That's where my suspicions are strongest.

I'll be around finishing up some work for the next hour or so if someone wants to talk, but that seems unlikely.

[Spite]

This is a great day 2! Tons of accusations and therefore information on thread. I dont have any additonal suspects, but will comment that I find the sorrit one to be the most plausible. Meanas and karosis might be scum, but he case was made qith my joke vote as being a signal, which isnt true. On my phone, will post more later from home.

[Spite]

Damn phone, i misswd this whole page of discussion and all the sorrit votes.

More reading...

[Sorrit]

Karosis, on 12 October 2012 - 03:02 AM, said:

On the Sorrit accusations:
I think the OMGUS accusations, while true, have little evidence pointing to sorrit being scum. However, sorrit has tried salmost too hard to be a helpful townie, and when he realized this, his play became too erratic, and he panicked.this has been done before, and i've grown suspicious of it. There's only one way to truly tell if sorrit is scum...

Vote Sorrit

Ps. This is not an OMGUS vote from sorrits accusations against me.

Karosis, on 12 October 2012 - 03:14 AM, said:

Fuck, i just re read over the TS case, which also seems like a generally sound case. Though i still think Sorrit has with more suspicious actions and each of more obviousness than TS's, it ks often small slip ups that catch scum, not big ones. However, there is too much pointing to Sorrit. I will stick to my guns for now. However, if Sorrit turns up inno, I'll beed to take a look at TS again. If he truns up scum, we all know the drill. Connections, connevtions, connections.

Sory for the meandering post. Very tired

Karosis, on 12 October 2012 - 03:19 AM, said:

I'm off to bed. I know i waited less than 30 minutes but im drifting off as i type... Night all

Did anyone else read this?

The most scummiest posts we have had so far. Setting up future targets. Not really convinced on me but enough to vote and then disappears. The wording of those posts are just wrong.

[Sorrit]

If enough town think I'm scum then fair enough. As a townie i'd suggest a deeper look into Meanas tomorrow as he would be influencial on both town lynches so far. In fact scrap that let me refute the claims against me.



The first thing before going into other posts is to say scum would not point a finger at multiple people the way I have done. I have pointed a finger at Spite, Karosis, Tellan, Osseric and Meanas off the top of my head. Yes my play has been erratic. I haven't properly settled on one target as I have been mixing it up. reading over Korv's post and breakdown of my case I feel as though I have been grasping at some straws. I can only say sorry for that.


If the time goes down and we need a lynch I really do agree with lynching me if there is no alternative. To actually be able to do this though and put the effort in today I'd need to know if people are going to be around. There'd be no point in me slacking in work looking at various people on here if i'm not going to have a chance of changing your minds to find scum. I mean I may as well vote myself off to prove I am town and have an early resolution if that is not going to happen. If there is a chance AND town are going to be around then I'll delve into the thread and get stuck in. I am not a town player you'd like to lose.