[Galain]

Olar Ethil, on 04 September 2012 - 05:07 PM, said:

Liosan, on 04 September 2012 - 04:49 PM, said:

Olar Ethil, on 04 September 2012 - 04:36 PM, said:

Checking in. Never seen the movie, so I'm not really interested in the RP in this one...

No coroner finder - hmm, I hope the mods made the effort to balance this correctly...could be cool, haven't seen paired finders for a very long time but I dunno how it could work without them.

So I reckon 2 killers & a symp vs. 2 finders and a healer. Anybody have any other ideas?

Obviously you are one of the killers since you are trying to get people to admit their roles to the thread.

So that's the way it's going to be, is it?

In fact, I like to be aware of what roles are likely in play for so us roleless innocents can support our roled allies better. As I said, I can't conceive of a no-coroner finder setup without paired finders, reason being that a single night-kill hitting the one finder makes the game virtually impossible for the innocents to win so we should be prepared for the implications of that and as I said, I haven't seen a paired finder setup in a very long time so I think it's worth some thought.

Alternatively, others may be aware of another way for a no coroner-finder setup to be sensible, perhaps a finder able to communicate with another roled (or roleless?) innocent off-thread, or.. I dunno, this is Blend we're talking about, he coulda made up a new role or new mechanic entirely.

I just think it's worth some thought. Also, I find it preferable to discuss something potentially productive on day one rather than throw meaningless accusations/votes around

His point is that speculating on the roles of town doesn't really help us much. I'd agree that it's probably two killers and a symp, though, with these numbers.

[Karosis]

Galain, on 04 September 2012 - 07:16 PM, said:

Olar Ethil, on 04 September 2012 - 05:07 PM, said:

Liosan, on 04 September 2012 - 04:49 PM, said:

Olar Ethil, on 04 September 2012 - 04:36 PM, said:

Checking in. Never seen the movie, so I'm not really interested in the RP in this one...

No coroner finder - hmm, I hope the mods made the effort to balance this correctly...could be cool, haven't seen paired finders for a very long time but I dunno how it could work without them.

So I reckon 2 killers & a symp vs. 2 finders and a healer. Anybody have any other ideas?

Obviously you are one of the killers since you are trying to get people to admit their roles to the thread.

So that's the way it's going to be, is it?

In fact, I like to be aware of what roles are likely in play for so us roleless innocents can support our roled allies better. As I said, I can't conceive of a no-coroner finder setup without paired finders, reason being that a single night-kill hitting the one finder makes the game virtually impossible for the innocents to win so we should be prepared for the implications of that and as I said, I haven't seen a paired finder setup in a very long time so I think it's worth some thought.

Alternatively, others may be aware of another way for a no coroner-finder setup to be sensible, perhaps a finder able to communicate with another roled (or roleless?) innocent off-thread, or.. I dunno, this is Blend we're talking about, he coulda made up a new role or new mechanic entirely.

I just think it's worth some thought. Also, I find it preferable to discuss something potentially productive on day one rather than throw meaningless accusations/votes around

His point is that speculating on the roles of town doesn't really help us much. I'd agree that it's probably two killers and a symp, though, with these numbers.

Yeah i dont imagine we'd have more than 1 symp in a game this size, and since it meant to be a M&P game i wouldn't imagine any more complicated scum abilities around unless Blend lied to us.

[Olar Ethil]

Fener, on 04 September 2012 - 06:52 PM, said:

I know a few of you are lurking. How's your day going? My time at work has gotten pretty easy these last few days, so everything's great on this end. Plenty of time to play mafia and such.

Alright, I'll play along - I've never been a fan of spam in mafia but at the same time day one is almost always random and stupid despite any and all efforts to the contrary so here goes...

My day has been pretty average, which is to say good - my job is pretty easy and I spend a lot of time on the internet. I got a new keyboard with colour-changing lights inside the keys which is very cool as it turns out, though if I'd been asked what I thought about this notion before I had one I would have been unimpressed. It's like an Andii keyboard and I like it a lot. It seems the more I type the quicker the colours change and I'm not even sure at this point how many colours it cycles through, it's pretty fucking amazing tbh.

Had an awesome ride home on my bicycle, no backpack so I was much faster, took an alternate, off-road route, avoided the stinging nettle for the most part which was awesome (hitting it at speed results in a sting that lingers for hours).

The man-cave is coming along nicely, lots of work to do though so lots to look forward to which is also nice.

In short, life is good. Also, there is no code in this post anywhere ;p

[Olar Ethil]

Karosis, on 04 September 2012 - 07:25 PM, said:

Galain, on 04 September 2012 - 07:16 PM, said:

Olar Ethil, on 04 September 2012 - 05:07 PM, said:

Liosan, on 04 September 2012 - 04:49 PM, said:

Olar Ethil, on 04 September 2012 - 04:36 PM, said:

Checking in. Never seen the movie, so I'm not really interested in the RP in this one...

No coroner finder - hmm, I hope the mods made the effort to balance this correctly...could be cool, haven't seen paired finders for a very long time but I dunno how it could work without them.

So I reckon 2 killers & a symp vs. 2 finders and a healer. Anybody have any other ideas?

Obviously you are one of the killers since you are trying to get people to admit their roles to the thread.

So that's the way it's going to be, is it?

In fact, I like to be aware of what roles are likely in play for so us roleless innocents can support our roled allies better. As I said, I can't conceive of a no-coroner finder setup without paired finders, reason being that a single night-kill hitting the one finder makes the game virtually impossible for the innocents to win so we should be prepared for the implications of that and as I said, I haven't seen a paired finder setup in a very long time so I think it's worth some thought.

Alternatively, others may be aware of another way for a no coroner-finder setup to be sensible, perhaps a finder able to communicate with another roled (or roleless?) innocent off-thread, or.. I dunno, this is Blend we're talking about, he coulda made up a new role or new mechanic entirely.

I just think it's worth some thought. Also, I find it preferable to discuss something potentially productive on day one rather than throw meaningless accusations/votes around

His point is that speculating on the roles of town doesn't really help us much. I'd agree that it's probably two killers and a symp, though, with these numbers.

Yeah i dont imagine we'd have more than 1 symp in a game this size, and since it meant to be a M&P game i wouldn't imagine any more complicated scum abilities around unless Blend lied to us.

First of all, his point is that I'm obviously a killer because I'm 'trying to get people to admit their roles to the thread. ' - that's obvious. I don't find that notion worthy to refute at this point so I'll leave it at that.

Regarding your assertion that speculating on the 'roles of town' doesn't help us much, I disagree, especially considering the alternatives. I'd prefer to discuss something related to the fact that we're all pretending to believe that we're locked in a room with at least two people who intend to kill us unless we kill them first. Obviously I misunderstood about the coroner finder in this game but I'm wiser for having had the conversation - if I hadn't said anything and carried on believing that CF would not reveal the killers I would have been woefully misinformed.

Also, what does the term 'M&P' mean?

Thanks

[Galain]

RI don't need to know what roles are on their team. Scum would like to know, though. That's why I don't find your speculation useful. Fair enough to the coroner thing

M&P means meat & potatoes. loosely used term. A real M&P game would be killers vs RI only, according to the scale. This is most likely a bit higher on the tmdi.

[Galain]

Olar Ethil, on 04 September 2012 - 07:26 PM, said:

Fener, on 04 September 2012 - 06:52 PM, said:

I know a few of you are lurking. How's your day going? My time at work has gotten pretty easy these last few days, so everything's great on this end. Plenty of time to play mafia and such.

Alright, I'll play along - I've never been a fan of spam in mafia but at the same time day one is almost always random and stupid despite any and all efforts to the contrary so here goes...

My day has been pretty average, which is to say good - my job is pretty easy and I spend a lot of time on the internet. I got a new keyboard with colour-changing lights inside the keys which is very cool as it turns out, though if I'd been asked what I thought about this notion before I had one I would have been unimpressed. It's like an Andii keyboard and I like it a lot. It seems the more I type the quicker the colours change and I'm not even sure at this point how many colours it cycles through, it's pretty fucking amazing tbh.

Had an awesome ride home on my bicycle, no backpack so I was much faster, took an alternate, off-road route, avoided the stinging nettle for the most part which was awesome (hitting it at speed results in a sting that lingers for hours).

The man-cave is coming along nicely, lots of work to do though so lots to look forward to which is also nice.

In short, life is good. Also, there is no code in this post anywhere ;p

Also, I find it strange that you speak as though you've played many games of mafia, but don't know what M&P is.

[Olar Ethil]

When I played regularly, revealing enough personal information so as to effectively reveal your alt was against the rules and I've already said enough to fail on that front.

any further comment along this line would only make it worse so I'm pretty much fucked if you lot cared about such things but since you obviously don't...

I haven't played for a few years and haven't kept up with the terminology.

Also, what sort of mafia do you play where it's not useful for the innocents to know what roles are in play?

If the killers are thinking about it, we should be too, imo.

[Karosis]

Olar Ethil, on 04 September 2012 - 08:01 PM, said:

When I played regularly, revealing enough personal information so as to effectively reveal your alt was against the rules and I've already said enough to fail on that front.

any further comment along this line would only make it worse so I'm pretty much fucked if you lot cared about such things but since you obviously don't...

I haven't played for a few years and haven't kept up with the terminology.

Also, what sort of mafia do you play where it's not useful for the innocents to know what roles are in play?

If the killers are thinking about it, we should be too, imo.

Most people try not to put on thread anything that might help the killers work out who to target or what they should be thinking about.

[Olar Ethil]

what's the alternative?

spam, RP, or some other species of nonsense? Randomly accusing people without good reason, placing random votes to get a reaction? as opposed to logically trying to work out what the situation is in detail. You can catch people out that way too, you know


You can't fool the killers into not thinking about what they should obviously be thinking about by not talking about it. They have the most interesting and fun role in the game, they are going to be thinking about everything and so should everybody else. Since we can't communicate off-thread we have to talk about these things on-thread, that's sorta how this game is meant to go?!

I mean wtf are you implying? If we don't talk about 'anything that might help the killers work out who to target or what they should be thinking about' what in the hell are we supposed to talk about?

[Karosis]

I know but it's a taboo subject

Last time i played the first day was entirely spam and random votes until someone made a semi coherent case

[Galain]

And the semi coherent cases are only that bit of coherent because we want to lynch someone.

Vote Fener

Fuck that guy.

[Olar Ethil]

Alright - that makes no sense to me. Ages ago, I managed to lynch a fellow innocent on day one in a serious game (not sure you lot know what that means, tbph) due to a random, fun vote on day one operating on the principle that it didn't matter anyway, might as well be a complete ass. Never again. There has to be a reason. There are compelling math reasons to lynch every day so I'm down with that but I don't start off with stupidity, I'd prefer to have a proper adult reason based on observable behaviour. There's no reason, especially with 36 hour days, that we can't have a real conversation that is related to the situation at hand. I'm off to bed soon, so please don't lynch me before I have a chance to respond

[Karosis]

Olar Ethil, on 04 September 2012 - 08:42 PM, said:

Alright - that makes no sense to me. Ages ago, I managed to lynch a fellow innocent on day one in a serious game (not sure you lot know what that means, tbph) due to a random, fun vote on day one operating on the principle that it didn't matter anyway, might as well be a complete ass. Never again. There has to be a reason. There are compelling math reasons to lynch every day so I'm down with that but I don't start off with stupidity, I'd prefer to have a proper adult reason based on observable behaviour. There's no reason, especially with 36 hour days, that we can't have a real conversation that is related to the situation at hand. I'm off to bed soon, so please don't lynch me before I have a chance to respond

The problem with this idea is that if you don't lynch day one then you go into day 2 with very little extra information to work with and one less innocent to get the lynch

[Olar Ethil]

I did mention that there are compelling math reasons to lynch every day - there are exceptions and I'm not sure this isn't one of them but I've lost touch with the people who could definitively settle it for me so I'm sticking with lynch every day no matter what - that doesn't mean I have to be stupid about it.

ETA: You obviously didn't read my post at all, Karosis. Curious.

This post has been edited by Olar Ethil: 04 September 2012 - 09:00 PM

[Karosis]

I vaguely remember seeing somewhere that depending on whether you have an odd or even number of players left that its sometimes better to go to night and wait for the next day. I cant remember which way round it was though as this was a while back

[Karosis]

Does this mean im going to get left here alone soon?

[Olar Ethil]

Fucking hell..I'm off for the night and hope to find thinking adults on the thread when I return.

[Karosis]

Ok so i am actually going to be the only one around? well this is going to be dull.

[Olar Ethil]

vote Karosis.


just to make it more interesting for you. Good night.

[Karosis]

Olar Ethil, on 04 September 2012 - 08:53 PM, said:

I did mention that there are compelling math reasons to lynch every day - there are exceptions and I'm not sure this isn't one of them but I've lost touch with the people who could definitively settle it for me so I'm sticking with lynch every day no matter what - that doesn't mean I have to be stupid about it.

ETA: You obviously didn't read my post at all, Karosis. Curious.

Im uncomfortably warm and reading off a laptop screen im allowed miss slight bits when speed reading. I think i managed to somehow miss the bit about math reasons :S

Also aren't we not meant to edit posts?