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Posted 18 July 2012 - 12:58 PM

View PostPath-Shaper, on 17 July 2012 - 10:57 PM, said:

View PostSheltatha Lore, on 17 July 2012 - 06:10 PM, said:

View PostPath-Shaper, on 16 July 2012 - 11:57 PM, said:

Kill order

Spite, on 16 July 2012 - 11:12 PM, said:

I'm going to lay a provisional:

Kill Sheltatha Lore

I smell some Vengy in there. D'rek, feel free to change as you see fit.



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With Shin and Drek as scum of course I was killed off day 1. I suspect that will happen for a while if either one of them are scum. :)

Shin's modding, it was ansible who submitted the order :(



Ahhh no wonder. Nice to know that he doesn't want me on the other side. :)
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Posted 18 July 2012 - 01:01 PM

View PostPath-Shaper, on 18 July 2012 - 07:33 AM, said:

Also, is it me being overly critical or is Tats playing a horrible, horribly bad day 1 with little improvement on day 2 so far?
Usually, he is sound and quite often, one of the stronger players. This time around he reminds me of his first few games: all over the place, scrambling, and a very convenient lynch target whenever scum is going to decide to feed him to the wolves.

I also like Blend's strategy of not revealing but doing at the very least 1 other find. It might backfire if he is getting to L-3 (seems fairly likely today, I don't know why people do not like him on thread) and reveals as people will say it is typical scum behavior to reveal finder, as they expect him to reveal straight out from the start if he finds scum.


It isn't like we haven't been known to occasionally have a off game. But yes he is playing like a spazzz...
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Posted 18 July 2012 - 09:04 PM

Tats needs to let his hate/rage really come out. Calling someone a dick...sigh... Point out that they are only able to post because of a blotched abortion attempt. That they have relations with donkeys. That they are only 1 step down the evolutionary ladder from shit flinging monkeys...A dick...sigh...


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Posted 19 July 2012 - 12:16 AM

I like TatterSmoothSailing's play the best out of everyone. But then again, I would. Proud of it, too.

Before I even joined spoilz, I was reading and was cheering him on. His lynch saved D'rek though. They seem to be on to D'rek some. Unless I'm confusing 'a' names.

That's fucking funny that they killed you for being you , Vengy.

At least Grief survived being Fener.
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Posted 19 July 2012 - 12:34 AM

Tata being Anthras explains exactly why I wanted to have him dead, happens every game and I have no idea why.

Damn those scum, D'rek, I should have known it, it was obvious Ampelas was dodgy as soon as no lynch was put forward. Hopefully some attention might go that way now but it'll be hard aside from that one thing to build much of a case against Ampelas I'd say. Especially with GH's fake-symp routine that he has going on, I can't at the moment see much purpose for it but maybe he has some strange plan in mind with that trick. Still, it'll be difficult to really use it to convince the rest of town. I see Fener has commented quite a bit on it, speculating on the role he has in true mafia style.
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Posted 19 July 2012 - 01:10 AM

What is WIFOM? I looked it up but it didn't really make sense. I never really got accused of it, so I just ignored it. But I see it a lot.

Actually I got accused of it once, in the first game I played. But I was so lost I had bigger worries than what that meant.
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Posted 19 July 2012 - 01:15 AM

Also, who did Blend find on night 1? Or did you say.
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Posted 19 July 2012 - 07:19 AM

View PostBrujah, on 19 July 2012 - 01:15 AM, said:

Also, who did Blend find on night 1? Or did you say.

I'm behind on the PM front. He did a find on Ampelas.
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Posted 19 July 2012 - 07:23 AM

View PostBrujah, on 19 July 2012 - 01:10 AM, said:

What is WIFOM? I looked it up but it didn't really make sense. I never really got accused of it, so I just ignored it. But I see it a lot.

Actually I got accused of it once, in the first game I played. But I was so lost I had bigger worries than what that meant.

Wifom is when you accuse someone/ are accused of something that can just as easily be not true, or true for entirely different reasons. Usually, it is when you try and second-guess who did what night action and why and attribute it as a leitmotiv.

Did the killers kill player A because he got too close to them, or did they kill player A because they wanted us to think he got too close to the killers in his speculation, when he totally was missing the mark? is a classic example.
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Posted 19 July 2012 - 07:35 AM

View PostTapper, on 19 July 2012 - 07:19 AM, said:

View PostBrujah, on 19 July 2012 - 01:15 AM, said:

Also, who did Blend find on night 1? Or did you say.

I'm behind on the PM front. He did a find on Ampelas.


Hmm. Blend better hope he doesn't get NKed on Night 2 then, if he's going to wait to reveal. Killing Silanah if not lynched could sow confusion and toss suspicion back towards a few different people. But then again I've never played this settup before. It seems like it would be hard for me to find the killers so far. Except that I was reading the thread before you spoilered me, and Amp did seem a bit scummy before I ever knew. I thought it might have been Kaschan and Ampelas. I knew it wasn't Tats. That was obvious to me. At least I thought so at the time. Seemed like something I would have done.
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Posted 19 July 2012 - 07:39 AM

View PostTapper, on 19 July 2012 - 07:23 AM, said:

View PostBrujah, on 19 July 2012 - 01:10 AM, said:

What is WIFOM? I looked it up but it didn't really make sense. I never really got accused of it, so I just ignored it. But I see it a lot.

Actually I got accused of it once, in the first game I played. But I was so lost I had bigger worries than what that meant.

Wifom is when you accuse someone/ are accused of something that can just as easily be not true, or true for entirely different reasons. Usually, it is when you try and second-guess who did what night action and why and attribute it as a leitmotiv.

Did the killers kill player A because he got too close to them, or did they kill player A because they wanted us to think he got too close to the killers in his speculation, when he totally was missing the mark? is a classic example.


Weird concept. Sort of logical though.
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Posted 19 July 2012 - 07:46 AM

View PostPath-Shaper, on 18 July 2012 - 07:29 AM, said:

View PostPath-Shaper, on 18 July 2012 - 03:29 AM, said:

Don't know what this is about, but maybe you want to answer Taps. :)

Korbas, on 18 July 2012 - 02:37 AM, said:

Tapper, how would you feel about me revealing as the symp? I'm curious what I can do with this strategy :( If that would destroy your game, I will refrain.

Thanks :)


Told him he can go ahead with it as long as it is part of a strategy and not shit and giggles only.
Personally, I think people will say 'unpressured reveal, reveal as scum, must be town' and will curse him for being useless and doing something stupid day 2. I once joke-revealed killer on page 1, and I was on fire that game - got 2 scum lynched and fingered Dibs as the final killer, but he spun that reveal back on me and won the game.


Well I guess since even if they kill him and he was the real symp, they wouldn't know. Assuming he thinks he can convince the killers he's their real symp, maybe he's hoping to earn their trust to stay alive, and hoping town just doesn't believe him. They might think it bold or stupid. He could attempt to betray them layer, but that only works if he knew for sure who they were. So I dunno except for trying to stay alive. Also seems like something I'd try.

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Posted 19 July 2012 - 09:22 AM

View PostPath-Shaper, on 18 July 2012 - 07:33 AM, said:

Also, is it me being overly critical or is Tats playing a horrible, horribly bad day 1 with little improvement on day 2 so far?
Usually, he is sound and quite often, one of the stronger players. This time around he reminds me of his first few games: all over the place, scrambling, and a very convenient lynch target whenever scum is going to decide to feed him to the wolves.

I also like Blend's strategy of not revealing but doing at the very least 1 other find. It might backfire if he is getting to L-3 (seems fairly likely today, I don't know why people do not like him on thread) and reveals as people will say it is typical scum behavior to reveal finder, as they expect him to reveal straight out from the start if he finds scum.


Well it's all part of the plan :)

The Master Plan that is :(
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Posted 19 July 2012 - 09:25 AM

View PostVengeance, on 18 July 2012 - 09:04 PM, said:

Tats needs to let his hate/rage really come out. Calling someone a dick...sigh... Point out that they are only able to post because of a blotched abortion attempt. That they have relations with donkeys. That they are only 1 step down the evolutionary ladder from shit flinging monkeys...A dick...sigh...


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Almost. I just needed Korbas to stoke those embers a little more. It would have been beautiful!
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Posted 19 July 2012 - 09:34 AM

View PostBrujah, on 19 July 2012 - 07:39 AM, said:

View PostTapper, on 19 July 2012 - 07:23 AM, said:

View PostBrujah, on 19 July 2012 - 01:10 AM, said:

What is WIFOM? I looked it up but it didn't really make sense. I never really got accused of it, so I just ignored it. But I see it a lot.

Actually I got accused of it once, in the first game I played. But I was so lost I had bigger worries than what that meant.

Wifom is when you accuse someone/ are accused of something that can just as easily be not true, or true for entirely different reasons. Usually, it is when you try and second-guess who did what night action and why and attribute it as a leitmotiv.

Did the killers kill player A because he got too close to them, or did they kill player A because they wanted us to think he got too close to the killers in his speculation, when he totally was missing the mark? is a classic example.


Weird concept. Sort of logical though.


It comes from the film The Princess Bride

There's a scene were the two characters sit down with two glasses in front of them. One of them is poisoned wine or so the guy tells the other. He places one in front of himself and one in front of the other. He says does he want to swap. It goes on for a little bit, debating which one is poisoned. It turns out they are both poisoned but the guy has an immunity to the poison.
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Posted 19 July 2012 - 09:37 AM

M & P's are great. This one may go down to the final three. Hopefully it will.

I needed that sort of game, a pure blow out of spam.

I believed Kasch and Amp to be a killer pair.

1 out of two aint bad.
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Posted 19 July 2012 - 09:38 AM

View PostMott, on 19 July 2012 - 12:34 AM, said:

Tata being Anthras explains exactly why I wanted to have him dead, happens every game and I have no idea why.

Damn those scum, D'rek, I should have known it, it was obvious Ampelas was dodgy as soon as no lynch was put forward. Hopefully some attention might go that way now but it'll be hard aside from that one thing to build much of a case against Ampelas I'd say. Especially with GH's fake-symp routine that he has going on, I can't at the moment see much purpose for it but maybe he has some strange plan in mind with that trick. Still, it'll be difficult to really use it to convince the rest of town. I see Fener has commented quite a bit on it, speculating on the role he has in true mafia style.


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Posted 19 July 2012 - 03:24 PM

View PostBrujah, on 19 July 2012 - 01:10 AM, said:

What is WIFOM? I looked it up but it didn't really make sense. I never really got accused of it, so I just ignored it. But I see it a lot.

Actually I got accused of it once, in the first game I played. But I was so lost I had bigger worries than what that meant.


WIFOM - Explained
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Posted 19 July 2012 - 03:26 PM

View PostTapper, on 19 July 2012 - 07:23 AM, said:

View PostBrujah, on 19 July 2012 - 01:10 AM, said:

What is WIFOM? I looked it up but it didn't really make sense. I never really got accused of it, so I just ignored it. But I see it a lot.

Actually I got accused of it once, in the first game I played. But I was so lost I had bigger worries than what that meant.

Wifom is when you accuse someone/ are accused of something that can just as easily be not true, or true for entirely different reasons. Usually, it is when you try and second-guess who did what night action and why and attribute it as a leitmotiv.

Did the killers kill player A because he got too close to them, or did they kill player A because they wanted us to think he got too close to the killers in his speculation, when he totally was missing the mark? is a classic example.


No a classic example is to never get involved in a land war in asia lesser known is to never go up against a Sicilian when death is on the line.
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Posted 19 July 2012 - 04:50 PM

Thanks for that info guys. For one, I thought it was 'whine' instead of 'wine.' So at least it makes more sense. It's still an odd concept, but I see what the jist of it is.

I think it looks like Amp is digging herself into some trouble. I mean we know she's screwed once Silanah reveals, but even without that reveal, they might get her. And Fener might feel almost like he's forced to defend Amp a bit harder than he wants to. It could take him down too if Amp goes. Jist speculating, though. I've watched you guys swing huge shifts into the opposite direction, so they might pull off something. Best case for the killers is that they don't lynch Amp, and Sil don't reveal, and they kill Sils ass tonight. If you guys were the killers, would you kill Silanah for pushing so hard on Amp, or not.
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