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David Farland
#1
Posted 12 July 2005 - 05:28 AM
i take it obseleteresolve that you didn't like the fourth one...overall i would have to agree with you, although as a read it was quite enjoyable, if not ridiculous (talking about the extent of Gaborn's powers). I liked the third and fourth mainly for the continuation of Raj Ahtans story, as he was the best character by far...his end was pretty stupid though, and i can see the need for a fifth book ,which i will probably buy..
On another note, thank you all for the book suggestions. I have never heard of Bakker outside this forum, but i would be interested in his books if he is similar to erikson
Which of Hobbs books is her first in the universe she has created, i.e which will leave me the least confused
And i have read GRRM up to his latest book THankyou
cheeers
On another note, thank you all for the book suggestions. I have never heard of Bakker outside this forum, but i would be interested in his books if he is similar to erikson
Which of Hobbs books is her first in the universe she has created, i.e which will leave me the least confused
And i have read GRRM up to his latest book THankyou
cheeers
#2 Guest_Dark Daze_*
Posted 14 July 2005 - 05:44 AM
I enjoyed "Sum of All Men" but I didn't continue with the series because there wasn't enough to it.
#3 Guest_Falco_*
Posted 20 July 2005 - 12:34 AM
I read Sum of All Men, but like others here, didn't think enough of the writing to pursue the series further. Genuinely underwhelmed with the quality of the writing, one can get so much better. Also, while the idea of runes was a decent gimmick, I didn't think it was that original...
#4 Guest_Binadas_*
Posted 25 July 2005 - 09:54 AM
Sounds like I am in the minority but I will read Farland's next book. I liked several of his characters and would have really liked the series.............if..............the last book hadn't been such a rush job.
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#5
Posted 14 July 2005 - 01:10 AM
I read the first two, then I gave up. The writing is not special, neither is the setting. The idea about preying on other people to get stronger is not bad, but it's a bit overdone. Come on, a thousand people maimed for their lord. It was getting ridiculous toward then end.
#6
Posted 10 July 2005 - 07:12 PM
He wrote the Runelords series.
I was wondering if anyone else had read his series, starting with the Sum of All men.
I thought it was very good, with interesting new concepts. To be more precise, i started very well and then got weaker and slightly more ridiculous as new books appeared...still enjoyable, but ridiculous...
any other opinions on the books?
and as an aside...im looking for a new series...is hobbs worth a try?
I was wondering if anyone else had read his series, starting with the Sum of All men.
I thought it was very good, with interesting new concepts. To be more precise, i started very well and then got weaker and slightly more ridiculous as new books appeared...still enjoyable, but ridiculous...
any other opinions on the books?
and as an aside...im looking for a new series...is hobbs worth a try?
#7
Posted 11 July 2005 - 08:05 PM
wow, didn't know 4 was out, will have to see if I can find it somewhere then. can see why they'd make a movie, they're fairly short books, action, a little drama. don't recognize the makers so maybe they'll surprise and do a good fantasy movie

#8
Posted 11 July 2005 - 12:23 AM
I thought book one was good an interesting idea thought through really quite cool. I got a hundred pages into book 2 and had to give up I found it so much worse than the first one really terrible. Hobb is much better read the farseer trilogy her best work in my opinion. If you haven't already tried them then Martins song of ice and fire is excellent one of the best out there, also R. Scott Bakker a new author who is very liked by many that also like Erikson.
#9 Guest_Binadas_*
Posted 15 July 2005 - 06:56 PM
I really enjoyed the first two books of Farland's series. The third book dissapointed. It almost seemed like a synopsis of what could have happened over a couple books he didn't feel like writing.
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#10 Guest_johnturing_*
Posted 11 July 2005 - 12:37 AM
I haven't read his books yet.
The Farseer trilogy is pretty good, but I wouldn't say it matches up to Erikson, mainly because the last book is so disappointing. Lots and lots of suspense built up for what is an extremely predictable outcome. The other two books are pretty good.
But before Hobb I'd recommend George RR Martin's A Song of Ice and Fire, R Scott Bakker's Prince of Nothing series, Greg Keyes' Kingdom of Thorn and Bone series and J V Jones' Sword of Shadows series. All have quite a few similarities to Erikson.
An author similar to Hobb is Gene Wolfe, but I think he is a far superior writer. His book of the New Sun is the best first person fantasy I've read, and it has a very original idea from the start - the protagonist is a torturer.
Some slightly different authors, also excellent, are China Mieville and M John Harrison. Very original and very well written. I think most people who enjoy Erikson enjoy Mieville, despite their numerous differences.
The Farseer trilogy is pretty good, but I wouldn't say it matches up to Erikson, mainly because the last book is so disappointing. Lots and lots of suspense built up for what is an extremely predictable outcome. The other two books are pretty good.
But before Hobb I'd recommend George RR Martin's A Song of Ice and Fire, R Scott Bakker's Prince of Nothing series, Greg Keyes' Kingdom of Thorn and Bone series and J V Jones' Sword of Shadows series. All have quite a few similarities to Erikson.
An author similar to Hobb is Gene Wolfe, but I think he is a far superior writer. His book of the New Sun is the best first person fantasy I've read, and it has a very original idea from the start - the protagonist is a torturer.
Some slightly different authors, also excellent, are China Mieville and M John Harrison. Very original and very well written. I think most people who enjoy Erikson enjoy Mieville, despite their numerous differences.
#11 Guest_Lady Vorcan_*
Posted 18 July 2005 - 04:22 PM
I've read the series, I think it all went downhill from Wizardborn...
#12
Posted 20 July 2005 - 12:23 PM
quote:Originally posted by Edge:
Yeah, good ideas (like the Sum of All Men) but spoiled by bad writing.
This sums it up perfectly. And to be honest there weren't even that many good ideas. A few. But way too few even if his writing had been good. All everyone did was rush all over the place and watch hundreds of thousands of people die (Farland's concept of crowds and armies was so horrifically unrealistic, even for fantasy, it turned into a bit of a joke).
#13
Posted 12 July 2005 - 09:00 AM
Cool ideas, wildly inconsistent writing.
I genuinely thought some of his ideas were some of the most original i had read in ages, but it really seemed as though he was rushing parts, hammering plot lines in for no apparent reason, and often just letting things meander off in nor particular direction for a few chapters.
It was good airport reading - which is to say, trapped in a asirport with nothing else to read, I picked up his books and don't regret it, but generally, the weak overshadowed the strong bits.
- Abyss, wants a few of those memory dedicates.
I genuinely thought some of his ideas were some of the most original i had read in ages, but it really seemed as though he was rushing parts, hammering plot lines in for no apparent reason, and often just letting things meander off in nor particular direction for a few chapters.
It was good airport reading - which is to say, trapped in a asirport with nothing else to read, I picked up his books and don't regret it, but generally, the weak overshadowed the strong bits.
- Abyss, wants a few of those memory dedicates.
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#14
Posted 14 July 2005 - 05:29 AM
Agree with cauthon - the idea of using runes to make oneself stronger/faster/whatever at another's expense was cool, and if Farland had really focused on mining the vast potential of themes that idea suggests, Runelords would have been awesome. Instead, we got reavers and that Earth King storyline that was so bolted-on you could almost see Frankensteinian stitching on the page. I quit after book one...
OK, I think I got it, but just in case, can you say the whole thing over again? I wasn't really listening.
#15 Guest_Edge_*
Posted 16 July 2005 - 11:26 AM
Yeah, good ideas (like the Sum of All Men) but spoiled by bad writing.
#16
Posted 11 July 2005 - 06:13 PM
I thought the first two were good. The third started to go downhill. And The Lair of Bones, for stylistic, quality, and sheer **** quality of the ending, was a ****ing travesty. I loved the first two, thought the universe was pretty interesting, the third started to weaken "Ohnoes, the One True Master" and then the fourth... Gack. Let's tack "OFF EVUL" to the "One True Master" part.
Started good, had alot of promise, and went down the ****ter.
And, ohdeargod,thepainthepain: http://www.runelords....com/index.html
Yes. There's going to be a movie. Because, you know, there aren't any more worthy fantasy novels within the entire annals of fantasy...
.david
-Wait.Wait. WHAT?!? WHAATT?!? There's going to be a BOOK FIVE. I had the impression, from FOUR, that Farland was getting tired of the universe- thus the horribly rushed ending to Lair of Bones. Apparently, no. It's continuing. Deargodinheaven...
Started good, had alot of promise, and went down the ****ter.
And, ohdeargod,thepainthepain: http://www.runelords....com/index.html
Yes. There's going to be a movie. Because, you know, there aren't any more worthy fantasy novels within the entire annals of fantasy...
.david
-Wait.Wait. WHAT?!? WHAATT?!? There's going to be a BOOK FIVE. I had the impression, from FOUR, that Farland was getting tired of the universe- thus the horribly rushed ending to Lair of Bones. Apparently, no. It's continuing. Deargodinheaven...
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#17
Posted 11 July 2005 - 06:17 AM
I liked his books, bought all three, have to admit the later books are weaker than the first, a shame since it's a quite original and interesting world
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