[Telas]

And as for Rashan dying and my knowing them - well, let's be honest now, people were suspecting Rashan of being CL as soon as that PI message came out defending him when he had like 2 votes on him - I suspected it and that was BEFORE I was even recruited to the faction (*shows message to SH to prove it* ).

And anyone who didn't realise it after Bane-gate is either lying or stupid. Even I thought my 'Rashan is probably an RI recruit' defence was lame. And then the fucker turns on me!

[Anomandaris]

Make dat case Telas. I'm not gonna throw a vote down in the first 30 minutes of the day without hearing some people out.

[Korbas]

lio said he has a vig for today, didn't he? Cancel it

[Emurlahn]

It's already gone and no I don't recall he did.

[Anomandaris]

Jumping the gun a bit Emur (pun totally intended) arent you? Vigging someone who we have no real evidence Is the bat. You said that he was either PI's or the bat....if he was PI's then hes fucking town now.

[Path-Shaper]

Liosan (BPoF) was shot to death by Emu. He was a THug, of the Penguin's faction
It is Day 7

9 people are still alive. Takes 6 voted to lynch, or 5 to go to night

-ment

[Korbas]

Goddammit. Who is BPoF?

[Korbas]

Dear Penguin.

Could you confirm that Telas has a gun?

Thanks.

[Fener]

Man, what the fuck is going on.

[Omtose]

Awake and caught up. By my thinking we have no choice but to finish what we started yesterday. I liked either Rashan or Telas for batman then, and with Rashan CFd as Poison Ivy, Telas makes the most sense. Rashan, who was Telas' recruiter felt that way in the end.
Vote Telas

[Anomandaris]

Well Telas has yet to defend himself or make his case against Atrahal.....

[Fener]

Emur, that was fucking stupid.

Vote Telas

like before. I can't believe we didn't lynch him yesterday, fuck me.

[Korbas]

Oh. BPOF = Namechanging Fucktard. Benevelonce. Berkevolence.

[Anomandaris]

Well shit


Vote Telas

[Telas]

Okey doke, I took some time to review the thread since the last Bat jump. And going off of that, standing back from it and looking at it again, rather than the 'minute-by-minute' reactions which made me suspect Emur, Atrahal came out on top by a long shot.

Atrahal has never been among the highest content-producing contributors, but his ONLY post of content since the Bat jump is also the most suspicious. But let's review:

Atrahal, on 11 June 2012 - 05:55 PM, said:

We had quite a delay while the successor acknowledged their notification. Any players with the same activity hours? Might be a pattern worth following up there...

Immediately after thread unlock, he comes up with the suggestion which, if anyone else had suggested it and looked into it closely, would likely find Atrahal - known for lengthy absences - among those names. But because Atrahal suggested it, he's immediately trying to separate himself from this line of thought. Now here's that one post I was talking about.

Atrahal, on 12 June 2012 - 10:37 AM, said:

Given that everyone benefits from BM being smoked at least one more time before we focus on CLs, but really only BM benefits at this stage from CLs going down, I think it's a reasonable course of action. Just because a recruit follows their CL's preferred choice of action (as faras we can tell, at any rate), doesn't mean that course of action isn't also useful to town. There will still be coincidences of desire (oo-er) until the it's time to start positioning for the denoument.

While the case against Emurlahn is shaky at best, I still think D'riss is a viable target, especially as she shrugged off my attempted NK the other night. So I'm going to:

Vote D'riss

Please notice that here he is voting D'riss because he suspects him of being Batman, not CL. Keep this in mind for a bit later. There was also no peep from Batman this night, which could be put down to Atrahal's failed NK on D'riss, after which he tries to set up D'riss as BM here.

Now notice who is the only person to show Atrahal's case any favour, the CL Rashan. Is this surprising?

Atrahal, on 12 June 2012 - 02:35 PM, said:

Rashan, on 12 June 2012 - 01:02 PM, said:

Atrahal, on 12 June 2012 - 10:37 AM, said:

Given that everyone benefits from BM being smoked at least one more time before we focus on CLs, but really only BM benefits at this stage from CLs going down, I think it's a reasonable course of action. Just because a recruit follows their CL's preferred choice of action (as faras we can tell, at any rate), doesn't mean that course of action isn't also useful to town. There will still be coincidences of desire (oo-er) until the it's time to start positioning for the denoument.

While the case against Emurlahn is shaky at best, I still think D'riss is a viable target, especially as she shrugged off my attempted NK the other night. So I'm going to:

Vote D'riss

I don't hate your case against D'riss. He hasn't really posted anything of substance since the weekend at least, but he's posted quite a bit. I think he may just be trying to keep his post-count up without making any big waves. I'll be keeping an eye on D'riss, but as per my previous message, for now my vote stays on Emurlahn.

This, and another post (Galain, Korbas) about this case not really being relevant to BM's identity now is a point I hadn't considered. I still think it's wiser to smoke BM than a CL at the moment, as BM will find it easier to hide and increasingly easier to pick off CLs as our numbers dwindle, whatever faction we happen to be in. The not-quite-randomness of BM's successor choice means we have a much greater chance of hitting a CL than BM, so we should focus our attentions on BM until he has one life left.

Given that, and my standing opinion that D'riss is a CL:

Remove vote

But now who to vote for? As Korbas's vehemence has convinced me that any lynch is better than none (for which, *bow*), I might as well jump on the vote train I have a gut feeling for. As far as I'm concerned, all the cases thus far are severe cases of WIFOM. I would always trust actions over words to point to someone's inclination/allegiance, and that's no different in Mafia. Thus far, until Penguin actually confirms Emurlahn's claim to be a recruit, seems he is the best target. Thus:


Vote Emurlahn

Now also notice the swift backtracking on the D'riss vote, after the negative attention it caused. Notice that NOW he says that 'my standing opinion is that D'riss is a CL'. BUT when he voted for D'riss, he made out he thought D'riss was Batman! So why CL now? And why say it on thread? He doesn't care it's out there for everyone to see! It's in case he gets whacked - so that the next Batman might follow his hunch by looking back over his posts. Finally, he hops on the easy-seeming Emurlahn train without adding anything to it.

Now look at these posts:

Atrahal, on 12 June 2012 - 07:05 PM, said:

And we now only need one more vote for a lynch, as far as I'm reading it.

Excited about the lynch, doesn't think to remove his vote and take Emur off L-1 when there's so much time to go. I was on at this time, and I did not vote on Emur when I EASILY could have.

Atrahal, on 12 June 2012 - 09:00 PM, said:

Accusations, counter-accusations -- seems like the fun is really only just beginning

Yeah, I bet for you - because none of it is focussed on the right place: on you.

Atrahal, on 13 June 2012 - 08:56 AM, said:

Morning!

Oh dear. No lynch? Korbas, please don't blow a fuse

Ano now taunting. Does he care that there was no lynch like everyone else expressed? No, because lynching is of no importance to his role. In fact, the more players around, the more there are for the next Batman to hide within, should it come to that.


So


Vote Atrahal

[Telas]

Omtose, on 13 June 2012 - 03:40 PM, said:

Awake and caught up. By my thinking we have no choice but to finish what we started yesterday. I liked either Rashan or Telas for batman then, and with Rashan CFd as Poison Ivy, Telas makes the most sense. Rashan, who was Telas' recruiter felt that way in the end.
Vote Telas

Are you even going to try and read what I've written? No, let's just fucking play blind. Let's just not post at all, anything at all, except votes. That would be a better way to play Mafia. If you finish what you started, you'll be going another day without lynching Batman, and you can say goodbye to a town or Penguin victory.

[Telas]

Korbas, on 13 June 2012 - 03:37 PM, said:

Dear Penguin.

Could you confirm that Telas has a gun?

Thanks.

I didn't even think of this. Yes, can you confirm this please fish-breath?

[Korbas]

Also, tell us if Atrahal has no weapons.

[Fener]

The problem is, Telas, we should have lynched you yesterday, and your case on Atrahal comes kind of out of nowhere, even if it does have some merit. And since you're the one on the chopping block, it makes it look more desperate than convincing. Still, can we get a vote count? Let's see where we stand.

[Omtose]

Telas, on 13 June 2012 - 03:50 PM, said:

Omtose, on 13 June 2012 - 03:40 PM, said:

Awake and caught up. By my thinking we have no choice but to finish what we started yesterday. I liked either Rashan or Telas for batman then, and with Rashan CFd as Poison Ivy, Telas makes the most sense. Rashan, who was Telas' recruiter felt that way in the end.
Vote Telas

Are you even going to try and read what I've written? No, let's just fucking play blind. Let's just not post at all, anything at all, except votes. That would be a better way to play Mafia. If you finish what you started, you'll be going another day without lynching Batman, and you can say goodbye to a town or Penguin victory.

That makes no sense. Atrahal has had a hard on for D'riss for the last couple of days. I think if Atrahal were Batman D'riss would be dead by now.