[Karosis]

D, on 08 June 2012 - 12:45 AM, said:

Karosis, on 08 June 2012 - 12:44 AM, said:

Much as I hate the melodramatics, I happen to think Eloth is very much correct in her sentiments. We've got plurality, we should be hunting the bat for all it's worth. I've made my feelings on this clear in my last few points, the benefits from lynching Eloth for town are slim in comparison to the benefits for Batman, especially since we've already done half his job for him!

Who do you think is Batman and why? Convince me and you'll have my vote (their bow, and that other's axe).

Unfortunately I'm cursed with a lack of time (it's 2AM here, and I have work tomorrow), but here's a rundown of my thoughts:


- I'm really suspicious of Korbas right now. He's got that Scarecrow reveal on his side, but every time I look back at significant events that have happened, I seem to find him preaching one spectacular idiocy or another. I mean, look at this quote from around the time we were debating Osseric from earlier:

Korbas, on 07 June 2012 - 04:30 AM, said:

Yeah. I get the feeling he can recruit as well. Which means Omtose is his recruit.

Really? That's unadulterated Class A fearmongering right there. He not only accuses Osseric of being a hidden recruiter, but also fingers Omtose as a recruit at the same time! It's a double whammy of fear!

And look at the way he's been ticking off the names on his list today. The mass town reveal is doing the Batman's work for him...unless the Batman is actually doing the work and driving the reveal, which is absolutely in his best interests. By being the one with the list, Korbas keeps his own name off it and associates himself with being a confirmed townie.




- Thyrllan has been lowposting, but the one post of substance he made did seem well thought out.

- D'riss...I like D'riss - I have a tendency to agree with what he says. But that doesn't mean I don't find him suspicious. Picture the scene - you are the Batman, and you come on this evening to find the best thing you can think of has happened - town has decided to waste a day lynching someone who is on your list of VCs to kill. What to do? Well, you could play along and drive home the lynch...but in your heart of hearts you know that would be the wrong thing for a town player to do. So instead you make vague pronouncements about how you think it's a bad idea like this:

D, on 07 June 2012 - 11:07 PM, said:

Kind of confused on the strategy here. We're lost as to Batman, thus the reveal-fest, which could really hurt later, but bird in the hand and all that. But, CLs not only have LPs and BPs, but they regenerate. Tells me Batman must have a weapon that cuts through the BPs, otherwise they'd never die.

But then decide you'll vote along anyway, because you don't want to stand out:

D, on 07 June 2012 - 11:46 PM, said:

Gracias.

I'm thinking I'll probably tag with putting the Kaibosh on Two-Face, so as to both remove Two-Face as a recruiter and a roadblock to other candidates.

Rashan's lynch train was deftly derailed, back onto Eloth, by the message from Path-Shaper, so I could WIFOM the hell out of that, but one of those switcharoos is that he did it to save his own balls as a CL.

Korv looks like he is getting attention.

Thryllan, Omtose, Liosan are three who I find more overtly suspicious, while Anomandaris and Emurlahn are just lurking there, which is where my blind spots usually are.

And when the opportunity arises, you drop in a musing about how your work is being done for you, just for fun.

D, on 08 June 2012 - 12:02 AM, said:

Telas, on 07 June 2012 - 11:58 PM, said:

Yes, but you made me think it could have been Rashan himself who is PI, and when he saw the votes piling on him, he sent out a message pretending that he was a recruit of PI's, rather than PI herself. Something to bear in mind anyway.

Good place for a town find, anyways.

God, I feel like Batman's work is being done for him, but evidently it isn't just yet.

Doesn't that seem like a plausible set of actions? Now I'm sure you can construct something similar for me if you so desired...but it just fits with how I see Batman playing this.

Vote D'riss

[D'riss]

I understand the rationale of blocking the CL with the most possible recruits, but is it better than blocking the probable CL?

Meh, your decision.

[Korbas]

D, on 08 June 2012 - 01:31 AM, said:

Korbas, on 08 June 2012 - 01:29 AM, said:

D, on 08 June 2012 - 01:26 AM, said:

Korbas, on 08 June 2012 - 01:24 AM, said:

Remove Vote

Vote Korvalain


D'riss, you're coming up, have patience.

Right, right.

Still no questions. Not that I'm asking you to ask them, but I find it funny to be suggested vig without even asking me questions while I'm around.

I literally meant your "questions" or whatever are coming up, not your lynch. You're on here because you're clearly not RI. I suppose my looking through your posts wont provoke many questions, so I suppose I'll ask you... what are you?

I believe your reveal good sir.

"Suggesting me for a vigfind" isn't a lynch, though. Can't defend that.

We've made a list of people who are accounted for. The named vigs made this much easier.

The final four are you, Liosan, Korvalain, Thyrllan, and Galain.


Tell me why you should not be on this list.

[Korbas]

D, on 08 June 2012 - 01:35 AM, said:

I understand the rationale of blocking the CL with the most possible recruits, but is it better than blocking the probable CL?

Meh, your decision.

The difference is, the "block" can also kill, if they're not a CL. This will take out batman/recruits/maybe town if we're really bad at this.

[Karosis]

Also, I'm falling asleep at the keyboard, so I'm not sure how coherent that came out. I need to go to sleep. I will try my damnedest to be back before deadline in case I'm needed, but I can't promise anything.

[Spite]

Korbas, on 08 June 2012 - 01:35 AM, said:

D, on 08 June 2012 - 01:31 AM, said:

Korbas, on 08 June 2012 - 01:29 AM, said:

D, on 08 June 2012 - 01:26 AM, said:

Korbas, on 08 June 2012 - 01:24 AM, said:

Remove Vote

Vote Korvalain


D'riss, you're coming up, have patience.

Right, right.

Still no questions. Not that I'm asking you to ask them, but I find it funny to be suggested vig without even asking me questions while I'm around.

I literally meant your "questions" or whatever are coming up, not your lynch. You're on here because you're clearly not RI. I suppose my looking through your posts wont provoke many questions, so I suppose I'll ask you... what are you?

I believe your reveal good sir.

"Suggesting me for a vigfind" isn't a lynch, though. Can't defend that.

We've made a list of people who are accounted for. The named vigs made this much easier.

The final four are you, Liosan, Korvalain, Thyrllan, and Galain.


Tell me why you should not be on this list.

Thats 5 people

[Korbas]

Karosis, on 08 June 2012 - 01:34 AM, said:

D, on 08 June 2012 - 12:45 AM, said:

Karosis, on 08 June 2012 - 12:44 AM, said:

Much as I hate the melodramatics, I happen to think Eloth is very much correct in her sentiments. We've got plurality, we should be hunting the bat for all it's worth. I've made my feelings on this clear in my last few points, the benefits from lynching Eloth for town are slim in comparison to the benefits for Batman, especially since we've already done half his job for him!

Who do you think is Batman and why? Convince me and you'll have my vote (their bow, and that other's axe).

Unfortunately I'm cursed with a lack of time (it's 2AM here, and I have work tomorrow), but here's a rundown of my thoughts:


- I'm really suspicious of Korbas right now. He's got that Scarecrow reveal on his side, but every time I look back at significant events that have happened, I seem to find him preaching one spectacular idiocy or another. I mean, look at this quote from around the time we were debating Osseric from earlier:

Korbas, on 07 June 2012 - 04:30 AM, said:

Yeah. I get the feeling he can recruit as well. Which means Omtose is his recruit.

Really? That's unadulterated Class A fearmongering right there. He not only accuses Osseric of being a hidden recruiter, but also fingers Omtose as a recruit at the same time! It's a double whammy of fear!

And look at the way he's been ticking off the names on his list today. The mass town reveal is doing the Batman's work for him...unless the Batman is actually doing the work and driving the reveal, which is absolutely in his best interests. By being the one with the list, Korbas keeps his own name off it and associates himself with being a confirmed townie.




- Thyrllan has been lowposting, but the one post of substance he made did seem well thought out.

- D'riss...I like D'riss - I have a tendency to agree with what he says. But that doesn't mean I don't find him suspicious. Picture the scene - you are the Batman, and you come on this evening to find the best thing you can think of has happened - town has decided to waste a day lynching someone who is on your list of VCs to kill. What to do? Well, you could play along and drive home the lynch...but in your heart of hearts you know that would be the wrong thing for a town player to do. So instead you make vague pronouncements about how you think it's a bad idea like this:

D, on 07 June 2012 - 11:07 PM, said:

Kind of confused on the strategy here. We're lost as to Batman, thus the reveal-fest, which could really hurt later, but bird in the hand and all that. But, CLs not only have LPs and BPs, but they regenerate. Tells me Batman must have a weapon that cuts through the BPs, otherwise they'd never die.

But then decide you'll vote along anyway, because you don't want to stand out:

D, on 07 June 2012 - 11:46 PM, said:

Gracias.

I'm thinking I'll probably tag with putting the Kaibosh on Two-Face, so as to both remove Two-Face as a recruiter and a roadblock to other candidates.

Rashan's lynch train was deftly derailed, back onto Eloth, by the message from Path-Shaper, so I could WIFOM the hell out of that, but one of those switcharoos is that he did it to save his own balls as a CL.

Korv looks like he is getting attention.

Thryllan, Omtose, Liosan are three who I find more overtly suspicious, while Anomandaris and Emurlahn are just lurking there, which is where my blind spots usually are.

And when the opportunity arises, you drop in a musing about how your work is being done for you, just for fun.

D, on 08 June 2012 - 12:02 AM, said:

Telas, on 07 June 2012 - 11:58 PM, said:

Yes, but you made me think it could have been Rashan himself who is PI, and when he saw the votes piling on him, he sent out a message pretending that he was a recruit of PI's, rather than PI herself. Something to bear in mind anyway.

Good place for a town find, anyways.

God, I feel like Batman's work is being done for him, but evidently it isn't just yet.

Doesn't that seem like a plausible set of actions? Now I'm sure you can construct something similar for me if you so desired...but it just fits with how I see Batman playing this.

Vote D'riss

To be fair, Telas started the list. We've both been posting it.


I was literally in the middle of this case. I'll just post my wrapup, since you have the quotes.



Also, Emurlahn vigged Eloth, so he is not batman. (Gun vig)

[Korbas]

Spite, on 08 June 2012 - 01:38 AM, said:

Korbas, on 08 June 2012 - 01:35 AM, said:

We've made a list of people who are accounted for. The named vigs made this much easier.

The final four are you, Liosan, Korvalain, Thyrllan, and Galain.


Tell me why you should not be on this list.

Thats 5 people

I forgot to add Galain. Then forgot to change the four to five

[D'riss]

Korbas, on 08 June 2012 - 01:35 AM, said:

D, on 08 June 2012 - 01:31 AM, said:

Korbas, on 08 June 2012 - 01:29 AM, said:

D, on 08 June 2012 - 01:26 AM, said:

Korbas, on 08 June 2012 - 01:24 AM, said:

Remove Vote

Vote Korvalain


D'riss, you're coming up, have patience.

Right, right.

Still no questions. Not that I'm asking you to ask them, but I find it funny to be suggested vig without even asking me questions while I'm around.

I literally meant your "questions" or whatever are coming up, not your lynch. You're on here because you're clearly not RI. I suppose my looking through your posts wont provoke many questions, so I suppose I'll ask you... what are you?

I believe your reveal good sir.

"Suggesting me for a vigfind" isn't a lynch, though. Can't defend that.

We've made a list of people who are accounted for. The named vigs made this much easier.

The final four are you, Liosan, Korvalain, Thyrllan, and Galain.


Tell me why you should not be on this list.

Here's what I'll tell you: That's five. Not four.

And you to easily discount Emur, Ano, and Omtose, imo.

[Korbas]

Overall:

D'riss, you're not a high poster.

You're not a low poster.

Every opinion you've had has been along with the majority.

You've skirted suspicion by not responding.


You're playing extremely smoothly.

[Omtose]

Karosis, on 08 June 2012 - 01:34 AM, said:

D, on 08 June 2012 - 12:45 AM, said:

Karosis, on 08 June 2012 - 12:44 AM, said:

Much as I hate the melodramatics, I happen to think Eloth is very much correct in her sentiments. We've got plurality, we should be hunting the bat for all it's worth. I've made my feelings on this clear in my last few points, the benefits from lynching Eloth for town are slim in comparison to the benefits for Batman, especially since we've already done half his job for him!

Who do you think is Batman and why? Convince me and you'll have my vote (their bow, and that other's axe).

Unfortunately I'm cursed with a lack of time (it's 2AM here, and I have work tomorrow), but here's a rundown of my thoughts:


- I'm really suspicious of Korbas right now. He's got that Scarecrow reveal on his side, but every time I look back at significant events that have happened, I seem to find him preaching one spectacular idiocy or another. I mean, look at this quote from around the time we were debating Osseric from earlier:

Korbas, on 07 June 2012 - 04:30 AM, said:

Yeah. I get the feeling he can recruit as well. Which means Omtose is his recruit.

Really? That's unadulterated Class A fearmongering right there. He not only accuses Osseric of being a hidden recruiter, but also fingers Omtose as a recruit at the same time! It's a double whammy of fear!

And look at the way he's been ticking off the names on his list today. The mass town reveal is doing the Batman's work for him...unless the Batman is actually doing the work and driving the reveal, which is absolutely in his best interests. By being the one with the list, Korbas keeps his own name off it and associates himself with being a confirmed townie.




- Thyrllan has been lowposting, but the one post of substance he made did seem well thought out.

- D'riss...I like D'riss - I have a tendency to agree with what he says. But that doesn't mean I don't find him suspicious. Picture the scene - you are the Batman, and you come on this evening to find the best thing you can think of has happened - town has decided to waste a day lynching someone who is on your list of VCs to kill. What to do? Well, you could play along and drive home the lynch...but in your heart of hearts you know that would be the wrong thing for a town player to do. So instead you make vague pronouncements about how you think it's a bad idea like this:

D, on 07 June 2012 - 11:07 PM, said:

Kind of confused on the strategy here. We're lost as to Batman, thus the reveal-fest, which could really hurt later, but bird in the hand and all that. But, CLs not only have LPs and BPs, but they regenerate. Tells me Batman must have a weapon that cuts through the BPs, otherwise they'd never die.

But then decide you'll vote along anyway, because you don't want to stand out:

D, on 07 June 2012 - 11:46 PM, said:

Gracias.

I'm thinking I'll probably tag with putting the Kaibosh on Two-Face, so as to both remove Two-Face as a recruiter and a roadblock to other candidates.

Rashan's lynch train was deftly derailed, back onto Eloth, by the message from Path-Shaper, so I could WIFOM the hell out of that, but one of those switcharoos is that he did it to save his own balls as a CL.

Korv looks like he is getting attention.

Thryllan, Omtose, Liosan are three who I find more overtly suspicious, while Anomandaris and Emurlahn are just lurking there, which is where my blind spots usually are.

And when the opportunity arises, you drop in a musing about how your work is being done for you, just for fun.

D, on 08 June 2012 - 12:02 AM, said:

Telas, on 07 June 2012 - 11:58 PM, said:

Yes, but you made me think it could have been Rashan himself who is PI, and when he saw the votes piling on him, he sent out a message pretending that he was a recruit of PI's, rather than PI herself. Something to bear in mind anyway.

Good place for a town find, anyways.

God, I feel like Batman's work is being done for him, but evidently it isn't just yet.

Doesn't that seem like a plausible set of actions? Now I'm sure you can construct something similar for me if you so desired...but it just fits with how I see Batman playing this.

Vote D'riss

Why aren't we looking at Korbas? Did anyone else get anything like a BP?

Thyr and D'riss are both on my short list with Korvalain.

[D'riss]

Ah, finally. I'm being voted again. Feel properly apart of the game.

[Korbas]

D, on 08 June 2012 - 01:40 AM, said:

Korbas, on 08 June 2012 - 01:35 AM, said:

D, on 08 June 2012 - 01:31 AM, said:

Korbas, on 08 June 2012 - 01:29 AM, said:

D, on 08 June 2012 - 01:26 AM, said:

Korbas, on 08 June 2012 - 01:24 AM, said:

Remove Vote

Vote Korvalain


D'riss, you're coming up, have patience.

Right, right.

Still no questions. Not that I'm asking you to ask them, but I find it funny to be suggested vig without even asking me questions while I'm around.

I literally meant your "questions" or whatever are coming up, not your lynch. You're on here because you're clearly not RI. I suppose my looking through your posts wont provoke many questions, so I suppose I'll ask you... what are you?

I believe your reveal good sir.

"Suggesting me for a vigfind" isn't a lynch, though. Can't defend that.

We've made a list of people who are accounted for. The named vigs made this much easier.

The final four are you, Liosan, Korvalain, Thyrllan, and Galain.


Tell me why you should not be on this list.

Here's what I'll tell you: That's five. Not four.

And you to easily discount Emur, Ano, and Omtose, imo.

Emur vigged Eloth.

Omtose I somewhat agree. Ano I agree (in the same way as me). Roled town with no way to prove it. Maybe he's lying. I know I;m not, but you don't know that.

[D'riss]

Korbas, on 08 June 2012 - 01:40 AM, said:

Overall:

D'riss, you're not a high poster.

You're not a low poster.

Every opinion you've had has been along with the majority.

You've skirted suspicion by not responding.


You're playing extremely smoothly.

Is that really to my interests though?

[Korbas]

D, on 08 June 2012 - 01:42 AM, said:

Korbas, on 08 June 2012 - 01:40 AM, said:

Overall:

D'riss, you're not a high poster.

You're not a low poster.

Every opinion you've had has been along with the majority.

You've skirted suspicion by not responding.


You're playing extremely smoothly.

Is that really to my interests though?

What?

[D'riss]

Frankly, I don't want to play into the reveal-fest. It's not good for town. I believe you Korbas.

Finally glad to just be asked questions and voted for after having read my name on those fucking lists.

[Spite]

I think it is very possible that all of the roled town (or at least some of the) are actually CLs/BM. This is because of all of the roles RIs are getting as the game progresses, and so maybe there were never roled town, but just many people who gain roles as the game goes on.

[D'riss]

Korbas, on 08 June 2012 - 01:43 AM, said:

D, on 08 June 2012 - 01:42 AM, said:

Korbas, on 08 June 2012 - 01:40 AM, said:

Overall:

D'riss, you're not a high poster.

You're not a low poster.

Every opinion you've had has been along with the majority.

You've skirted suspicion by not responding.


You're playing extremely smoothly.

Is that really to my interests though?

What?

I garnered heat early for that, which wasn't very smooth was it? I love using that rationale myself, as I noted earlier.

[Omtose]

Korbas, on 08 June 2012 - 01:41 AM, said:

Omtose I somewhat agree. Ano I agree (in the same way as me). Roled town with no way to prove it. Maybe he's lying. I know I;m not, but you don't know that.

No, because I confirmed. I remember when the gun vigs came up and Telas allowed the thread to assume that the gun could only be used during the day. I specifically didn't choose it because I had wanted to be able to take something I could use anonymously. All we have on Korbas is his behavior and the fact that he claims to have had only a BP. I didn't get that and I haven't heard of any other town that got one. As far as I know, he also hasn't been offerred a weapon.

[Korbas]

D, on 08 June 2012 - 01:46 AM, said:

I garnered heat early for that, which wasn't very smooth was it? I love using that rationale myself, as I noted earlier.

I remember that.

Didn't you beat it by not talking?

D, on 08 June 2012 - 01:44 AM, said:

Frankly, I don't want to play into the reveal-fest. It's not good for town. I believe you Korbas.

Finally glad to just be asked questions and voted for after having read my name on those fucking lists.

Fair enough.