[D'riss]

 Eloth, on 08 June 2012 - 12:29 AM, said:

WHAT. THE . MOTHERFUCK.

town, your objective is to lynch the motherfucking goddamned batman.
You are not even trying.

So if I go down, and you motherfuckers lose the game:

don't even think of whining to Ment and Liz that this game was unfair.
You guys just lost the fucking plot and focused on side issues while all the time you are worried about not finding the goddamned Batman.
You're not dinding him because you are not even looking.

And why? Because you rather be whiners than losers. You'd rather lynch the known target and claim balance was wrong when you inevitably lose, than lynch wrongly several times and stand a chance.
Fuck it, I made every single decision to give town a chance to win. I vigged Meanas, I practically gave you my role PM yesterday and made you guys see that I would be the perfect roadblock to slow Batman down.

And in fucking fact, you didn't believe me then, and now, you once more go against your best interest and try and wate another lynch on me.
If you guys are so fucking scared of lynching town (or pretending to), how are you ever going to lynch the Batman?

Forget Big Tent Mafia. Mafia is dead. Because you c**ts are just not able to pull your heads out of your arses and recognise the fact that sometimes, doing the good thing takes colleteral damage.

Boohoo.

Who are you aiming at and voting for?

Oh that's right. NO-FUCKING-ONE.

Go back to your corner.

Who are you voting for?

[Karosis]

 Telas, on 08 June 2012 - 12:25 AM, said:

It seems that it will take even Batman time to take out a CL - why else is Eloth even alive still?

And are you saying here you have suspicions about me? About me being what? I think you need to read back again.

Not at all, but I don't see how your life is more valuable than Anthras'. Better to have you dead than him and the extra vig in our pockets, IMO.

[Karosis]

 Telas, on 08 June 2012 - 12:27 AM, said:

Oh no, sorry, I see what you meant there, my mistake.

But I think Fener put in his kill order before Anthras admitted he had a gun, so there was nothing to be done there (thankfully for me )

Hmm, well if that's the case then I stand corrected. Probably couldn't have been helped if that's how it went down.

[Telas]

 Karosis, on 08 June 2012 - 12:33 AM, said:

 Telas, on 08 June 2012 - 12:25 AM, said:

It seems that it will take even Batman time to take out a CL - why else is Eloth even alive still?

And are you saying here you have suspicions about me? About me being what? I think you need to read back again.

Not at all, but I don't see how your life is more valuable than Anthras'. Better to have you dead than him and the extra vig in our pockets, IMO.

Yeah, I got what you meant eventually. But, IMO, Spite and I can act like a vig and a finder in concert, so in that sense we can be more useful. Anyhoo, we'll see I guess.

[Anomandaris]

Just caught up after work.

That was damn close to a telas death haha. Also, I sitll think that an Eloth lynch is the way to go for the reasons already stated by me and others. Need to reduce the rate that town are recruited in order to maintain plurality for longer. I dont think that the CL's are going to be killed in one night by BM, honestly, and if their abilities do regen then weve wasted all of our time on eloth if we do not pull of a kill today.

[Eloth]

 D, on 08 June 2012 - 12:13 AM, said:

Well, at least we'd finally be rid of the recruiter we spent 100% of our time so far trying to lynch.

It seems as though random kills might thin the herd in the Batman search on their own. The question becomes: is random lynch better than CL lynch at this time? Until we've got a better idea of who Batman is, and have possible ways of detecting and depriving further recruitment, that this is still a good lynch, if not the best possible outcome.

Edit: to add "and have" after is,

YOU FUCKING DUMB SHIT.
Until you fucking pull your act together and accept that you have to break eggs to make an omelet, you'll never find Batman. The reason why? Because you as town never ever put pressure on the right people.
You try and milk me. I'm not impressed. I'm not giving you info. In fucking fact, I made sure no-one's going to lose with me when you lynch me through not recruiting anybody. So take me down, enjoy your little random victory.
The fact will be that Batman achieved 25% of his fucking VC and you guys achieved 0%. Celebrate that, you dumb fucks.

None of you is acting like town. None of you is even trying. I'm considering self-voting to just go the motherfuck down and show you the futility of your ways.
In fucking fact, I seldom saw as clueless, horrid and fucked up town play as ever. Ment fucking specificly told you fuckers you had a chance. You know what? You are fucking wasting it. You deserve to lose. You deserve to consider yourself a bunch of fucking losers who ought to learn how to play and learn how to play town, how to accept sacrifices for the greater good. Fuck this shit. Dibs, Morghy, they'd turn in their fucking graves from game 5 to 75 because of the sheer ineptitude on display here.
YOU GUYS SUCK. THERE'S NO OTHER FUCKING WORD FOR IT.

[D'riss]

 Eloth, on 08 June 2012 - 12:39 AM, said:

 D, on 08 June 2012 - 12:13 AM, said:

Well, at least we'd finally be rid of the recruiter we spent 100% of our time so far trying to lynch.

It seems as though random kills might thin the herd in the Batman search on their own. The question becomes: is random lynch better than CL lynch at this time? Until we've got a better idea of who Batman is, and have possible ways of detecting and depriving further recruitment, that this is still a good lynch, if not the best possible outcome.

Edit: to add "and have" after is,

YOU FUCKING DUMB SHIT.
Until you fucking pull your act together and accept that you have to break eggs to make an omelet, you'll never find Batman. The reason why? Because you as town never ever put pressure on the right people.
You try and milk me. I'm not impressed. I'm not giving you info. In fucking fact, I made sure no-one's going to lose with me when you lynch me through not recruiting anybody. So take me down, enjoy your little random victory.
The fact will be that Batman achieved 25% of his fucking VC and you guys achieved 0%. Celebrate that, you dumb fucks.

None of you is acting like town. None of you is even trying. I'm considering self-voting to just go the motherfuck down and show you the futility of your ways.
In fucking fact, I seldom saw as clueless, horrid and fucked up town play as ever. Ment fucking specificly told you fuckers you had a chance. You know what? You are fucking wasting it. You deserve to lose. You deserve to consider yourself a bunch of fucking losers who ought to learn how to play and learn how to play town, how to accept sacrifices for the greater good. Fuck this shit. Dibs, Morghy, they'd turn in their fucking graves from game 5 to 75 because of the sheer ineptitude on display here.
YOU GUYS SUCK. THERE'S NO OTHER FUCKING WORD FOR IT.

The sobbing will be even sweeter once we have your alt. Self-vote or get off the pot.

[D'riss]

Your self-sacrifice and nobility will be noted in the annals, though. Along with: Lost ignominiously along with those he berated for shitty play.

[Anomandaris]

We dont know who Batman is but we do know who Eloth is and we've been trying for two days to kill him. If his shit regenerates and then later we decide that we want to reduce recruitment rate, then we will have to REDO all of the stuff that we've already done in order to do this.

I'm personally tired of hearing Eloth whine like a bitch, too.

[Karosis]

 Much as I hate the melodramatics, I happen to think Eloth is very much correct in her sentiments. We've got plurality, we should be hunting the bat for all it's worth. I've made my feelings on this clear in my last few posts, the benefits from lynching Eloth for town are slim in comparison to the benefits for Batman, especially since we've already done half his job for him! 




EDIT: points->posts

This post has been edited by Karosis: 08 June 2012 - 12:44 AM

[D'riss]

 Karosis, on 08 June 2012 - 12:44 AM, said:

Much as I hate the melodramatics, I happen to think Eloth is very much correct in her sentiments. We've got plurality, we should be hunting the bat for all it's worth. I've made my feelings on this clear in my last few points, the benefits from lynching Eloth for town are slim in comparison to the benefits for Batman, especially since we've already done half his job for him!

Who do you think is Batman and why? Convince me and you'll have my vote (their bow, and that other's axe).

[Telas]

It's just not that simple, Eloth. I wish it were.

But town VC is not kill Batman. It's kill Batman and maintain plurality. No way that's going to happen with all 4 CLs running around.

Yeah, it would have been better to get Batman first, but hell, you refused to die days 1 and 2, so it's kinda your fault

[Spite]

Honestly. This happens again and again. If we lose, then we screwed up and it's our fault. We'll own up to it when the game ends and we get SH. Until then, if you are upset about something, talk to PS about it. Don't clog up the thread with all caps rage. It's annoying, and you may be a CL, but you didn't design the game. You don't know the entire setup, so you can't make a complete judgement yet.

[Anomandaris]

 Eloth, on 06 June 2012 - 05:29 PM, said:

 Fener, on 06 June 2012 - 05:21 PM, said:

Also, if you are expecting Batman to kill you, why the fuck are you trying to "help town" by telling us you are lynchproof? You don't care about living or dying? You don't care that Batman is going to try to kill you? If Batman wastes his actions on you, great; if not, town is still in a position to maintain plurality and lynch the Bat. His night actions are designed for YOU, not for town, so trying to convince us that his NAs should be the focus of our lynch target is totally ridiculous.

Batman is going to kill me anyway, you guys can't kill me unless aided by Batman or by the other CL. I already told you that. The fact is you don't believe me, but it is for me about 87% true and the 13% hesitation is only because I don't know what town roles Ment put in.

I don't want you fuckers to win. If I can't win, then I hope another Super Villain wins. I threw The Joker out for vengeance, but with him and me gone, we will make a nice speedbump as well as making the game very exciting to watch from SH. For PI or The Penguin to win, the Batman needs to die 4 times, and I think the best way to take him out, is lynching. Which means that I don't want lynches wasted on myself or Ampelas. Leave us to the Batman. Make him work for his victory while you work towards yours.
He can off two of the super villains who are outed now. That should give town more days to work with. Your own contribution to killing us is neglible and you're on a tight clock schedule to lynch BM 4 times while you have plurality.

As a result, it is for all involved best if you lynch Batman and focus on that. He will kill us. Don't worry about that.

Here's a quote where Eloth clearly says he doesnt want us to win. Why would he be trying to tell us how to win now? He's just freaking out because he's about to die. Reminds me of...Meanas...Osseric...

EDIT: added the red

This post has been edited by Anomandaris: 08 June 2012 - 12:48 AM

[Eloth]

 D, on 08 June 2012 - 12:32 AM, said:

 Eloth, on 08 June 2012 - 12:29 AM, said:

WHAT. THE . MOTHERFUCK.

town, your objective is to lynch the motherfucking goddamned batman.
You are not even trying.

So if I go down, and you motherfuckers lose the game:

don't even think of whining to Ment and Liz that this game was unfair.
You guys just lost the fucking plot and focused on side issues while all the time you are worried about not finding the goddamned Batman.
You're not dinding him because you are not even looking.

And why? Because you rather be whiners than losers. You'd rather lynch the known target and claim balance was wrong when you inevitably lose, than lynch wrongly several times and stand a chance.
Fuck it, I made every single decision to give town a chance to win. I vigged Meanas, I practically gave you my role PM yesterday and made you guys see that I would be the perfect roadblock to slow Batman down.

And in fucking fact, you didn't believe me then, and now, you once more go against your best interest and try and wate another lynch on me.
If you guys are so fucking scared of lynching town (or pretending to), how are you ever going to lynch the Batman?

Forget Big Tent Mafia. Mafia is dead. Because you c**ts are just not able to pull your heads out of your arses and recognise the fact that sometimes, doing the good thing takes colleteral damage.

Boohoo.

Who are you aiming at and voting for?

Oh that's right. NO-FUCKING-ONE.

Go back to your corner.

Who are you voting for?

SELF EXPLODE IMMINENT.


VOTE ELOTH


Yes, that's right, motherfuckers, I suicide as per the OP.
You know why? Because you bunch of goddamnedwaklings (I was going to type vagina's but I admire the playing skills of KL and Starling more than most of you to make that an insult) don't know what strategic decision means if it hit you in the face wet and willing. I am truly disappointed by the quality of play and in all fucking honesty, I am sincerely considering withdrawing from Mafia for a long long time. Because town just seems to fail in the quality that makes a decent town a decent challenge for reasonably good scum: case-making. From now until you bunch of idiots pull your act together, playing scum is like 0% challenge if you continue to fail to make cases that can stick to someone.
You fuckers know you need a Batman lynch asap, yet during 3 days, there have been 0.5 cases on one and about 3 votes in total for such a case. That's goddamned bad play. Enough to make me suicide and give you another shot at it today, though you do not deserve it.

FUCKING, FUCKING WANKERS. The lot of you, even the ones who do try.
Penguin, Ivy, show these quivering pussies what playing for victory means, please.

[Spite]

And he says that we can't kill him without the help of another CL or BM. I want to prove his whiny ass wrong.

[Eloth]

 Telas, on 08 June 2012 - 12:45 AM, said:

It's just not that simple, Eloth. I wish it were.

But town VC is not kill Batman. It's kill Batman and maintain plurality. No way that's going to happen with all 4 CLs running around.

Yeah, it would have been better to get Batman first, but hell, you refused to die days 1 and 2, so it's kinda your fault

Your VC is to lynch Batman asap for times. So far, 0 effort. That's bad play.

I know I already suicided and this will be deleted. Go cry a fucking river.

[Spite]

Whoa. Massive xpost.

[D'riss]

Well, he did give us some information, but he was trying to buy his life. That's the trade-off. He still got semi-lynched for it. You don't get to skate as outted cult recruiter in a cult game no matter the priorities.

"YOU NEED TO BREAK SOME EGGS!"

Well, we also not need to be recruited, Mr. Recruiter. Doesn't matter if we get Batman if you and your friends have recruited all of us.

We want to balance the attack. We have some finders and guard/viggers as well as getting rid of a recruiter. Good enough for me, for now.

[Eloth]

 Spite, on 08 June 2012 - 12:49 AM, said:

And he says that we can't kill him without the help of another CL or BM. I want to prove his whiny ass wrong.

You'll never do that since I suicided. Now go and lynch a fucking batman, like you're supposed to.