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Mafia 87.5: The Numbers Game When Transcendentals Attack!

#161 User is offline   Galain 

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Posted 22 May 2012 - 02:51 PM

Holy shit, i say "I do think" and "I do agree" a whole lot. Heh.

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Posted 22 May 2012 - 02:52 PM

I for one find getting yelled at by a green bird more frightening.

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Posted 22 May 2012 - 04:16 PM

Sorry for not checking in sooner, life's been in the way, but I'm checking in. Will read the thread and then post some thoughts!

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Posted 22 May 2012 - 04:22 PM

ok, i've arrived. reading up, yo. like a..boss...or something.

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Posted 22 May 2012 - 04:50 PM

Okay, so Sheltatha is annoying, and I would certainly jump on a Sheltatha lynch train. She has been trying to make it pretty clear that she's a Roleless Innocent, and I remember when I was reading through the last game where Serc was doing basically the same thing, I thought to myself that it would be a very interesting way to hide, in plain sight as it were. If I wanted to hide being a killer, I'd do the opposite of what everyone thinks a killer should do, and that means low posting and such.

Anyway, seeing as the train seems to be heading Tulas' way, I will throw my vote there. I agree that it's suspicious that he thought Sheltatha's posts made sense.

vote Tulas

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Posted 22 May 2012 - 05:02 PM

View PostTelas, on 22 May 2012 - 04:50 PM, said:

Okay, so Sheltatha is annoying, and I would certainly jump on a Sheltatha lynch train. She has been trying to make it pretty clear that she's a Roleless Innocent, and I remember when I was reading through the last game where Serc was doing basically the same thing, I thought to myself that it would be a very interesting way to hide, in plain sight as it were. If I wanted to hide being a killer, I'd do the opposite of what everyone thinks a killer should do, and that means low posting and such.

Anyway, seeing as the train seems to be heading Tulas' way, I will throw my vote there. I agree that it's suspicious that he thought Sheltatha's posts made sense.

vote Tulas


Shelly isn't exactly as subtle as Serc was though.
Serc didn't outright say he was innocent, atleast not in every single post.

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Posted 22 May 2012 - 05:28 PM

View PostKorbas, on 22 May 2012 - 12:52 PM, said:

View PostAnomandaris, on 22 May 2012 - 10:54 AM, said:

So a couple of quick observations before work: We have a M&P game as ST has stated in the most explicit and unquestionably clear manner possible, 10 RIs vs 2 paired killers. There was an OP change, so I wouldn't be surprised at some confusion regarding the removal of the symp role.

It is probably obvious to people that SL is playing a straw man game, creating friction to "stir" up trouble. This alone actually does not yet make me suspicious of her. It also seems D'riss now is following suit which is a little suspicious but that just may be the way this game is going.

Right now, a main suspect is Tulas Shorn. His claims that SL makes "perfect sense" and that a Thyr is vote worthy are strange to say the least. TS seems to believe we need to look for codes though, and that is the real reason I am inclined to vote for him. Being an M&P, with no symp, no town roles, there is no reason to code unless one wants to be clever. Why then coding should be integral to our game is beyond me. I would like to hear more on why TS thinks coding will be necessary (if not just to hear him sputter a little).


Vote Tulas Shorn.


Also this kind of makes a bit of sense to me, TS is a relatively low poster so far. Maybe he's trying to avoid attention. Also the looking for codes thing was a bit odd to me as well.

So without furthur ado

Vote Tulas Shorn


At least until someone else seems more...murderous.



Tulas Shorn has had one post so far. That is not a relatively low poster, that IS a low poster of the lowest kind. Why are you trying to play it more safe than you have to, are you just some kind of sheep that feels the need to follow the crowd. Now obviously you are correct to vote for Tulas because he is a killer as I proved when I trapped him, but perhaps you are a killer also and think your partner is a goner so you've jumped quickly on the train.

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Posted 22 May 2012 - 05:29 PM

View PostKorbas, on 22 May 2012 - 12:52 PM, said:



At least until someone else seems more...murderous.


Also I think that this is clearly a signal, so you've just gone up several notches in my suspicion meter, and I am pretty good at sniffing out scum. I haven't played many games but I am very good at mafia because you just have to have a talent to spot these things and I have that talent.

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Posted 22 May 2012 - 05:32 PM

View PostRashan, on 22 May 2012 - 01:25 PM, said:

View PostKorbas, on 22 May 2012 - 12:52 PM, said:

View PostAnomandaris, on 22 May 2012 - 10:54 AM, said:

So a couple of quick observations before work: We have a M&P game as ST has stated in the most explicit and unquestionably clear manner possible, 10 RIs vs 2 paired killers. There was an OP change, so I wouldn't be surprised at some confusion regarding the removal of the symp role.

It is probably obvious to people that SL is playing a straw man game, creating friction to "stir" up trouble. This alone actually does not yet make me suspicious of her. It also seems D'riss now is following suit which is a little suspicious but that just may be the way this game is going.

Right now, a main suspect is Tulas Shorn. His claims that SL makes "perfect sense" and that a Thyr is vote worthy are strange to say the least. TS seems to believe we need to look for codes though, and that is the real reason I am inclined to vote for him. Being an M&P, with no symp, no town roles, there is no reason to code unless one wants to be clever. Why then coding should be integral to our game is beyond me. I would like to hear more on why TS thinks coding will be necessary (if not just to hear him sputter a little).


Vote Tulas Shorn.


Also this kind of makes a bit of sense to me, TS is a relatively low poster so far. Maybe he's trying to avoid attention. Also the looking for codes thing was a bit odd to me as well.

So without furthur ado

Vote Tulas Shorn


At least until someone else seems more...murderous.



It annoys me that I find myself agreeing with this... but I hate taking the almost too easy answer. Anyways, we still have some time yet.


I think that your hesitation to vote makes you really suspicious as Tulas is clearly a killer as I proved when I trapped him in my trap. I think that perhaps you have something to hid - are you the priest????? But if you are then why would you not vote with us on Tulas? Perhaps you haven't quite grasped how to play this game yet, you seem like a noob to me, but if you stick with me I'm sure we can win this thing.

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Posted 22 May 2012 - 05:35 PM

View PostThyrllan, on 22 May 2012 - 01:27 PM, said:

Being naked is more comfortable.

I don't hide my online status, I mightn'y be posting but I'm generally keeping up with the game, mobile device stays logged in most of the day at work.

Waiting to see how TS responds to these few votes, I didn't consider it more than someone being lazy and throwing a vote on the first thing they saw, but it bears closer scrutiny now.
and no Shell, it has nothing what so ever to do with your traps and logic



I think it's pretty clear that no one would have caught Tulas unless I had laid the trap for him - were you even looking for Tulas before I pointed him out. Now I understand that you might be feeling a little annoyed because of my style but trust me I know what I'm doing and I know how to play this game and the sooner we finish this the sooner we can play VAMPIRE: THE MASQUERADE which would be a great idea which I came up with and I'm sure hasn't been done before.

Perhaps if you pay a little more attention to me you can learn how to catch killers too, don't worry I'll point out the second one soon hahahahahahahaha.

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Posted 22 May 2012 - 05:37 PM

View PostKorbas, on 22 May 2012 - 01:41 PM, said:

View PostRashan, on 22 May 2012 - 01:31 PM, said:

OK, so here are my thoughts overall. I don't think we need to quote Shelly, but he's running around like a ferret hopped up on espresso and meth. Nervous much?

We all are fairly certain that we've alted him. While there were several pages of his rambling in the last game, I think he made considerably more sense in that one. So I'm wondering if this guy got a killer role and is desperately trying to be a high poster so as to avoid being considered middle of the road or contentless.


He is most definitely attempting to convey the fact that he is a roleless inno. Probably said it 20 times by now.

Edited stuff below

But if he were a killer, would it be smart to be drawing this much attention? Doesn't seem like it to me, but then again he hasn't been making the most sense so far.



I'm not a killer I'm a roleless inno just like I said. I'm just trying to stay alive as long as possible and help as much as possible and I think I'm doing that. You've got read between the lines when playing this game and that's what I've done and that's how I caught Tulas. A killer wouldn't play like me because I think that only I play like me and I'm not a killer because I was given the roless inno role.

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Posted 22 May 2012 - 05:39 PM

View PostGalain, on 22 May 2012 - 02:46 PM, said:

I do think Shelly is an old player dicking around. For whatever reason, i don't know, but i just feel like a new player would player more carefully. I do think we shouldn't do what we did with Serc. For now Tulas Shorn seems to be getting a lot of attention, and i do agree his post that said Shelly was making perfect sense was really fucking silly.

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I'm not dicking around I'm playing seriously and you are the one not taking me seriously. Why you wouldn't when I caught a killer I don't know. Now if you are the healer Galain like I know you are then you will know to heal me tonight because the killers know I'm their biggest threat and the second killer is guaranteed to try and target me so you should heal me because I'm really useful to team inno, plus I want to survive for as long as possible hahahahaha.

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Posted 22 May 2012 - 05:42 PM

View PostTelas, on 22 May 2012 - 04:16 PM, said:

Sorry for not checking in sooner, life's been in the way, but I'm checking in. Will read the thread and then post some thoughts!



View PostKarosis, on 22 May 2012 - 04:22 PM, said:

ok, i've arrived. reading up, yo. like a..boss...or something.



Now does no one else find this STRANGE?!?!?!?! Telas and Karosis weren't around at all and now they are around within minutes of each other. I think I've just found the one person in two alts which is definitely in this game because ST is really clever and intelligent and probably really handsome like that and I know he would put in a twist like this, because normal mafia is probably just a little too easy for me so he thought he would up the stakes a little.

But seriously Telas/Karosis, you are not really playing that well because it is obvious that you are one person in two alts. But if you stick with me I can try and give you some pointers but first you've got to tell me your plan - are you some kind of independent role???

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Posted 22 May 2012 - 05:44 PM

View PostTelas, on 22 May 2012 - 04:50 PM, said:

Okay, so Sheltatha is annoying, and I would certainly jump on a Sheltatha lynch train. She has been trying to make it pretty clear that she's a Roleless Innocent, and I remember when I was reading through the last game where Serc was doing basically the same thing, I thought to myself that it would be a very interesting way to hide, in plain sight as it were. If I wanted to hide being a killer, I'd do the opposite of what everyone thinks a killer should do, and that means low posting and such.

Anyway, seeing as the train seems to be heading Tulas' way, I will throw my vote there. I agree that it's suspicious that he thought Sheltatha's posts made sense.

vote Tulas



I think it's really suspicious how you've put your vote on Tulas even though Tulas is for sure a killer. And why haven't you voted with the Karosis alt yet as well? It's too late to try and distinguish them now because we all know you are one person as I pointed out already. But seriously you look like you are just jumping on a train and I reckon this means there are actually THREE KILLERS, only one killer has two alts, so the killers are Tulas, Telas, and Karosis.

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Posted 22 May 2012 - 06:31 PM

View PostSheltatha Lore, on 22 May 2012 - 05:39 PM, said:

I'm not dicking around I'm playing seriously and you are the one not taking me seriously. Why you wouldn't when I caught a killer I don't know. Now if you are the healer Galain like I know you are then you will know to heal me tonight because the killers know I'm their biggest threat and the second killer is guaranteed to try and target me so you should heal me because I'm really useful to team inno, plus I want to survive for as long as possible hahahahaha.


PS made it abundantly clear that there is no healer. There are 10 Roleless Innocents (that means no ROLE) and 2 Killers. Heck, he even posted the PM descriptions that he sent through. You're just trying to obscure and confuse, and I'm not falling for it!

View PostSheltatha Lore, on 22 May 2012 - 05:42 PM, said:

Now does no one else find this STRANGE?!?!?!?! Telas and Karosis weren't around at all and now they are around within minutes of each other. I think I've just found the one person in two alts which is definitely in this game because ST is really clever and intelligent and probably really handsome like that and I know he would put in a twist like this, because normal mafia is probably just a little too easy for me so he thought he would up the stakes a little.

But seriously Telas/Karosis, you are not really playing that well because it is obvious that you are one person in two alts. But if you stick with me I can try and give you some pointers but first you've got to tell me your plan - are you some kind of independent role???


You ever stop to think maybe we're just in or around the same time zone? There are 12 players, and 12 alts, so no one with double alts. Again, that was made pretty clear, and you're just trying to confuse everyone.

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View PostTelas, on 22 May 2012 - 04:50 PM, said:

Okay, so Sheltatha is annoying, and I would certainly jump on a Sheltatha lynch train. She has been trying to make it pretty clear that she's a Roleless Innocent, and I remember when I was reading through the last game where Serc was doing basically the same thing, I thought to myself that it would be a very interesting way to hide, in plain sight as it were. If I wanted to hide being a killer, I'd do the opposite of what everyone thinks a killer should do, and that means low posting and such.

Anyway, seeing as the train seems to be heading Tulas' way, I will throw my vote there. I agree that it's suspicious that he thought Sheltatha's posts made sense.

vote Tulas



I think it's really suspicious how you've put your vote on Tulas even though Tulas is for sure a killer. And why haven't you voted with the Karosis alt yet as well? It's too late to try and distinguish them now because we all know you are one person as I pointed out already. But seriously you look like you are just jumping on a train and I reckon this means there are actually THREE KILLERS, only one killer has two alts, so the killers are Tulas, Telas, and Karosis.


If Tulas is for sure a killer, then it would be good for me to vote for him. That being said, the more I read your crap, the more I think you're a killer Sheltatha. Why do you keep insisting there are roles that don't exist? Why do you keep trying to confuse everyone? I think you're just trying to throw everyone off, and I don't like it one bit!

I will be keeping an eye on the thread, if we can manage to redirect the lynch train to Sheltatha instead of Tulas, I'll move my vote, but in the interest of lynching someone today, I'll leave my vote on Tulas for now.

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Posted 22 May 2012 - 06:46 PM

View PostSheltatha Lore, on 22 May 2012 - 05:28 PM, said:

View PostKorbas, on 22 May 2012 - 12:52 PM, said:

View PostAnomandaris, on 22 May 2012 - 10:54 AM, said:

So a couple of quick observations before work: We have a M&P game as ST has stated in the most explicit and unquestionably clear manner possible, 10 RIs vs 2 paired killers. There was an OP change, so I wouldn't be surprised at some confusion regarding the removal of the symp role.

It is probably obvious to people that SL is playing a straw man game, creating friction to "stir" up trouble. This alone actually does not yet make me suspicious of her. It also seems D'riss now is following suit which is a little suspicious but that just may be the way this game is going.

Right now, a main suspect is Tulas Shorn. His claims that SL makes "perfect sense" and that a Thyr is vote worthy are strange to say the least. TS seems to believe we need to look for codes though, and that is the real reason I am inclined to vote for him. Being an M&P, with no symp, no town roles, there is no reason to code unless one wants to be clever. Why then coding should be integral to our game is beyond me. I would like to hear more on why TS thinks coding will be necessary (if not just to hear him sputter a little).


Vote Tulas Shorn.


Also this kind of makes a bit of sense to me, TS is a relatively low poster so far. Maybe he's trying to avoid attention. Also the looking for codes thing was a bit odd to me as well.

So without furthur ado

Vote Tulas Shorn


At least until someone else seems more...murderous.



Tulas Shorn has had one post so far. That is not a relatively low poster, that IS a low poster of the lowest kind. Why are you trying to play it more safe than you have to, are you just some kind of sheep that feels the need to follow the crowd. Now obviously you are correct to vote for Tulas because he is a killer as I proved when I trapped him, but perhaps you are a killer also and think your partner is a goner so you've jumped quickly on the train.



View PostSheltatha Lore, on 22 May 2012 - 05:29 PM, said:

View PostKorbas, on 22 May 2012 - 12:52 PM, said:



At least until someone else seems more...murderous.


Also I think that this is clearly a signal, so you've just gone up several notches in my suspicion meter, and I am pretty good at sniffing out scum. I haven't played many games but I am very good at mafia because you just have to have a talent to spot these things and I have that talent.



View PostSheltatha Lore, on 22 May 2012 - 05:32 PM, said:

View PostRashan, on 22 May 2012 - 01:25 PM, said:

View PostKorbas, on 22 May 2012 - 12:52 PM, said:

View PostAnomandaris, on 22 May 2012 - 10:54 AM, said:

So a couple of quick observations before work: We have a M&P game as ST has stated in the most explicit and unquestionably clear manner possible, 10 RIs vs 2 paired killers. There was an OP change, so I wouldn't be surprised at some confusion regarding the removal of the symp role.

It is probably obvious to people that SL is playing a straw man game, creating friction to "stir" up trouble. This alone actually does not yet make me suspicious of her. It also seems D'riss now is following suit which is a little suspicious but that just may be the way this game is going.

Right now, a main suspect is Tulas Shorn. His claims that SL makes "perfect sense" and that a Thyr is vote worthy are strange to say the least. TS seems to believe we need to look for codes though, and that is the real reason I am inclined to vote for him. Being an M&P, with no symp, no town roles, there is no reason to code unless one wants to be clever. Why then coding should be integral to our game is beyond me. I would like to hear more on why TS thinks coding will be necessary (if not just to hear him sputter a little).


Vote Tulas Shorn.


Also this kind of makes a bit of sense to me, TS is a relatively low poster so far. Maybe he's trying to avoid attention. Also the looking for codes thing was a bit odd to me as well.

So without furthur ado

Vote Tulas Shorn


At least until someone else seems more...murderous.



It annoys me that I find myself agreeing with this... but I hate taking the almost too easy answer. Anyways, we still have some time yet.


I think that your hesitation to vote makes you really suspicious as Tulas is clearly a killer as I proved when I trapped him in my trap. I think that perhaps you have something to hid - are you the priest????? But if you are then why would you not vote with us on Tulas? Perhaps you haven't quite grasped how to play this game yet, you seem like a noob to me, but if you stick with me I'm sure we can win this thing.



View PostSheltatha Lore, on 22 May 2012 - 05:35 PM, said:

View PostThyrllan, on 22 May 2012 - 01:27 PM, said:

Being naked is more comfortable.

I don't hide my online status, I mightn'y be posting but I'm generally keeping up with the game, mobile device stays logged in most of the day at work.

Waiting to see how TS responds to these few votes, I didn't consider it more than someone being lazy and throwing a vote on the first thing they saw, but it bears closer scrutiny now.
and no Shell, it has nothing what so ever to do with your traps and logic



I think it's pretty clear that no one would have caught Tulas unless I had laid the trap for him - were you even looking for Tulas before I pointed him out. Now I understand that you might be feeling a little annoyed because of my style but trust me I know what I'm doing and I know how to play this game and the sooner we finish this the sooner we can play VAMPIRE: THE MASQUERADE which would be a great idea which I came up with and I'm sure hasn't been done before.

Perhaps if you pay a little more attention to me you can learn how to catch killers too, don't worry I'll point out the second one soon hahahahahahahaha.



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View PostTelas, on 22 May 2012 - 04:16 PM, said:

Sorry for not checking in sooner, life's been in the way, but I'm checking in. Will read the thread and then post some thoughts!



View PostKarosis, on 22 May 2012 - 04:22 PM, said:

ok, i've arrived. reading up, yo. like a..boss...or something.



Now does no one else find this STRANGE?!?!?!?! Telas and Karosis weren't around at all and now they are around within minutes of each other. I think I've just found the one person in two alts which is definitely in this game because ST is really clever and intelligent and probably really handsome like that and I know he would put in a twist like this, because normal mafia is probably just a little too easy for me so he thought he would up the stakes a little.

But seriously Telas/Karosis, you are not really playing that well because it is obvious that you are one person in two alts. But if you stick with me I can try and give you some pointers but first you've got to tell me your plan - are you some kind of independent role???


OK. According to this latest string of posts by Shelly dear, EVERYONE is a killer but HIM, as he is CLEARLY a Roleless Inno as he likes to frequently remind us.

Its him or Tulas. For shits and giggles lets see if anyone else is interested in a SL train.

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Posted 22 May 2012 - 06:59 PM

Man...Shelly just never stops

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Posted 22 May 2012 - 06:59 PM

I will jump on the Shelly lynch train, hopefully help it pick up some steam. Reasons are quoted in my previous post!

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Posted 22 May 2012 - 07:02 PM

Oh no! Everyone who votes for Shelly just fell into his latest trap...... just kidding. Until I hear more from Tulas I'm leaning toward sticking with him, but if he can convince me of his innocence, then I may also hop aboard the SL express.

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Posted 22 May 2012 - 07:10 PM

View PostKorbas, on 22 May 2012 - 07:02 PM, said:

Oh no! Everyone who votes for Shelly just fell into his latest trap...... just kidding. Until I hear more from Tulas I'm leaning toward sticking with him, but if he can convince me of his innocence, then I may also hop aboard the SL express.



I agree, Tulas still needs looking at. I may change that way depending on what he has to say. At the moment I can see lazy townie that just grasped at a reason for a Day 1 vote. I'll be pleasantly surprised if he CFs scum. I think we may still be looking for a low poster that is trying to skate by, but I think its entirely possible that a killer could be trying to hide in plain site like Shelly is. All of our recent talk about avoiding voting for annoying posters could easily work in someone's favor.

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