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#1421 User is offline   Serc 

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Posted 04 May 2012 - 04:38 AM

View PostPath-Shaper, on 27 April 2012 - 12:29 AM, said:

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View PostPath-Shaper, on 27 April 2012 - 12:11 AM, said:

Let me make one thing clear I must have forgot to mention: The independents can win before the end of the game (with the exception of the survivor, of course) and the game will continue.

If the lone avenger were to win night 1, the game would continue, but he would be a winner. The other factions don't lose because of this, but they are weaker because of the nature of his VC.




I bolded "a winner". So we're saying there could be multiple different winners in this game, because of the varied nature of the VCs?



There can be only one (lol) faction winner, but the independents can reach their VCs separately of the factions. So the 4 main factions battle it out, and the 4 independents fight in between, the nature of their VCs causing people to want them gone, but not ending the game if they reach them.


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Posted 04 May 2012 - 04:39 AM

Telas, can I ask, why those particular three targets?

I'm not seeing much in the case against Atrahal, except that Telas' kill didn't work on him. Could the 'seizure' be the result of Atrahal having a DR higher than three? In and of itself, the kill not working does not seem suspicious although I understand the desire to know why the action didn't work. At the least, the failed action suggests that Atrahal is not the zombie, so unless we conclude that he is an independent he is probably not the one we want to be looking at lynching.

I have a case of my own coming through in a bit, just need to get my thoughts in order.

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Posted 04 May 2012 - 05:02 AM

So, Mockra has been on my radar since day two, and while Rashan made a case for his lynch it was somewhat overshadowed by the train on Korvalain, so I thought it was worth going back to.

Day one he signs in late, doesn't have time to read through fully, so follows the train on Sorrit.

Day two he is rather more active. he starts with a discussion of mechanics, before beginning his attack on Serc. At the time, Serc was suggesting the lynch of Galain. This was generally opposed because at the time general consensus was that Galain was human, but Mockra was the first and most vehement of Serc's attackers, which suggests to me that Mockra knew Galain was a zombie and was using the belief that Galain was human to direct attention elsewhere. Mockra spends the rest of the day trying to achieve Serc's lynch. He stresses the importance of going after zombies when defending Galain, but advocates Serc's lynch on the basis that he is probably either a zombie or an independent, despite the fact that Serc at the time s hinting that he is the priest, and it would be detrimental to lynch him. Mockra completely ignores all other cases (there were suspicions of Korbas, Ampelas and Kaschan at the time), and deviates from his fixation on Serc only to answer questions levelled at him by Rashan. However, instead of answering the accusations put forward, he tries to discredit Rashan by accusing him of quoting the wrong post, backtracking, and defending Serc:

View PostMockra, on 30 April 2012 - 09:18 PM, said:

View PostRashan, on 30 April 2012 - 05:40 PM, said:

This post below has the smell of Zombie trying to steer us towards a human lynch. In fact, I have noticed quite a few posts where people voting Serc concede that he is likely a human, but then vote him anyway. Are you people frigging dense??? The Zombies are the tthreat. Not an independant with his own win condition. Not a dog, not any of the human faction. Zombies. They can Kill, they can recruit and they are 10 strong right now. Anyone on Serc's train that has admitted he may be independant is instantly suspect to me right now. This includes Mockra in the post below.

View PostMockra, on 30 April 2012 - 12:48 AM, said:

View PostSerc, on 29 April 2012 - 11:53 AM, said:

No, I agree completely to the importance of taking out Zombies. And if we can somehow be sure as to someone we think IS or at least have a pretty high suspicion, then we should take them out. But they seem to be laying low, in my opinion. So if by the end of day two if we can't isolate a zombie target I would suggest taking out another member of a faction who is already down two. Seems a safe kill to me. But I was also wondering if you are suggesting that we spend all our time taking out zombies until they are all dead before targeting anyone or anything else? Human Faction VCs: To be the last faction standing. I'm not saying this suggests that you're not part of a faction, or maybe you're just part of the BBs, I dont know. That's not where Im going with this. Im just wondering if it wouldnt be a quicker way to victory by taking out the other factions as quickly as possible. But to be honest, its hard to say at this point.I suggest we go for what seems to be the most SURE target. If we are more sure weve found a zombie, we take it out. If not we can take down each others factions in the stead, especially if we have a really strong suspicion like Galain's seeming connection to Sorrit, who might also be a Faction Leader. Because you said it could be either Sergeant Daniel Jackson - Sergeant of the squad BurnBridgers OR Corporal Mike Horvath - second in command of the BurnBridgers that Sorrit knew as part of his faction. But seeing as he was a dog, a PET, to the Sergeant, I'd say odds are if he knew someone he'd HAVE to know his master, who is also the man who found him (Benny - a border-collie who Sergeant Jackson found after becoming stranded, and decided to bring with him because of his sense of smell.) If Galain IS a Faction Leader for BBs, then everyone from both other factions, zombies, The Lone Avenger, Survivor, and even the Voodoo Master would all benefit from this.But I'm more willing to see where everyone else stands before I commit to anything just yet.


I think we can safely conclude that Serc is NOT in the BurnBridgers....I really don't like the way he's trying to coax us towards a possible human faction lynch already. Serc knows full well that unless a finder comes out and reveals themselves to say that they've found a zombie, there is hardly any possible way we'll be "SURE" (capital letters SURE) of a zombie lynch. In effect, that 'suggestion' is pretty much unworkable from the beginning - which of course automatically leads us back to the thought of lynching Galain. Notice that we can't be SURE of Galain's affiliation either, and yet Serc is pretty much taking that for granted.


Nowhere in the post of mine which you quote, Rashan, do I say that I believe that Serc is not a zombie but an independent. I do elsewhere put forward the possibility that Serc could be EITHER a zombie OR an independent, but please get your quotes right before the accusations start flying. And it's really weird that you defend Serc like this when Serc was the first person to start suggesting we go after someone who most of us are reasonably sure is NOT a zombie. As you yourself realise later on and try to backtrack a little bit.


Day three he is around very little. There is this post bringing up Serc AGAIN:

View PostMockra, on 02 May 2012 - 09:38 PM, said:

Yes, I know, I've been missing for ages. I don't even really have an excuse, aside from work during the day, and then just too sleepy in the evening. So, have I missed anything?No, don't worry, I've read up :p I'm very glad to see we're getting somewhere, albeit at the loss of all healers. I have to say I immediately liked Anomandaris' theory, but then I have been suspicious of Serc from day 1. At the moment I have to admit that I think Rashan's theory on Korvalain is stronger, but I don't want us to suddenly discount Serc either.


and another responding to questions over his use of 'horde'. Nothing further on day 4 so far.

Add to all of this that he has been a relatively low poster and was very late signing in. While these are not enough to be suspicious on their own, it is all adding up to make me think Mockra is a zombie.

Vote Mockra.

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Posted 04 May 2012 - 06:55 AM

Hmm, I'm not too sure about that, we've seen that the horde thing is a pretty terrible idea, and I personally have no problem with people who go after Serc.

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Posted 04 May 2012 - 07:10 AM

View PostKaschan, on 27 April 2012 - 12:07 PM, said:

@Ruse. I find the Thyrllan thing odd. Not sure about D'riss. If D'riss is a zombie I would guess then he is a zombie from the 'other' side just trying to get a vote down to look like hes playing while he tries to manage multiple alts. 3 votes from the same 5-vote faction would be rather dangerous on day 1. Of course it can all be hand-waved away as WIFOM.


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Posted 04 May 2012 - 07:43 AM

So looking at their posting times (lol meta) Eloth and Atrahal never post more than an hour apart, and when one posts the other starts posting. Eloths posts are generally full of content, and then after Eloth has started posting, Atrahal comes on, does some bullshit, and disappears, then Eloth posts more content. Them interacting for a while was a nice touch, but it was all bullshit, no content.

Atrahal also has only 18 posts, which is less than anyone still alive except Karosis and Kalse, which might not mean much, but it might be significant for someone trying to run multiple alts. Eloth is also in the lower half with 36, which is oddly just double what Atrahal has, but I'm sure that is just a coincidence.

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Posted 04 May 2012 - 07:47 AM

@ Serc -> What are you getting at? I was saying I can't see a single zombie faction laying down all 3 votes in defense of you, if you are a zombie.

Please try to bring up relevant stuff instead of bullshit. I know you are new, but still...

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Posted 04 May 2012 - 08:21 AM

View PostFener, on 28 April 2012 - 01:04 AM, said:

*Lightbulb goes off above my head*

I know it now!

I think Serc is the priest. He said "Repent your sins" and he was accused of being independent. Sins (and the thing that preaches against them (religion)) have to do with priests (priests are not sinful etc etc) and the priest is independent, as was stated in the OP.


Reading through, this came up again. I really don't like this post. It seems like one zombie person trying to tell the other zombie person that they should both go after Serc. If Fener is a non-zombie this is exceptionally poor play. He also has extremely few posts compared to most people, and is well in the lower half of the group. 36 hour days and we are on day 3 and you have 27 posts? Really? I mean come on.

Karosis, Kalse, and Atrahal still all have under 20 posts. That worries me quite a bit.

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Posted 04 May 2012 - 08:21 AM

Haha, I can see everyone was going stir crazy last night! Worth it though it seems in the end, considering the night results.

Anyway, I've read over the various cases and accusations so far, and I think Kaschan is the best choice for a lynch. If you look over the analysis I did of D'riss, Galain and Meanas' posts, you will see that Kaschan pops up a lot in connection with them. I also don't think Serc is lying about the less than 1 DR thing - why would he? If he's wrong, then he knows that this time, there'd be no way of wriggling out of a lynch, and I think it's still too early in the game to be going for suicide lynches. Now, coupled with that, Kaschan has come out firing today after being pretty quiet recently, and voting for Atrahal, who, if based solely on their post count, is a pretty easy target. And someone on whom Telas' kill failed - which to me suggests that he could well not be a zombie (yes, there are many other explanations for why the kill failed, but all that does is make this one of the less certain cases around). I think Kaschan has come out today because he's worried and he wants us to focus anywhere but him.

Vote Kaschan

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Posted 04 May 2012 - 08:23 AM

^ Oh shit its day 4. I missed a day in the summary I wrote myself, hold on.

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Posted 04 May 2012 - 08:25 AM

View PostTellan, on 04 May 2012 - 08:21 AM, said:

Haha, I can see everyone was going stir crazy last night! Worth it though it seems in the end, considering the night results.

Anyway, I've read over the various cases and accusations so far, and I think Kaschan is the best choice for a lynch. If you look over the analysis I did of D'riss, Galain and Meanas' posts, you will see that Kaschan pops up a lot in connection with them. I also don't think Serc is lying about the less than 1 DR thing - why would he? If he's wrong, then he knows that this time, there'd be no way of wriggling out of a lynch, and I think it's still too early in the game to be going for suicide lynches. Now, coupled with that, Kaschan has come out firing today after being pretty quiet recently, and voting for Atrahal, who, if based solely on their post count, is a pretty easy target. And someone on whom Telas' kill failed - which to me suggests that he could well not be a zombie (yes, there are many other explanations for why the kill failed, but all that does is make this one of the less certain cases around). I think Kaschan has come out today because he's worried and he wants us to focus anywhere but him.

Vote Kaschan




No, I pop up a lot in connection with Tulas Shorn talking to those people. Don't lie to the thread, it is easy to prove you wrong. Are you claiming Tulas is a zombie as well?

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Posted 04 May 2012 - 08:31 AM

View PostKaschan, on 04 May 2012 - 08:25 AM, said:

View PostTellan, on 04 May 2012 - 08:21 AM, said:

Haha, I can see everyone was going stir crazy last night! Worth it though it seems in the end, considering the night results.

Anyway, I've read over the various cases and accusations so far, and I think Kaschan is the best choice for a lynch. If you look over the analysis I did of D'riss, Galain and Meanas' posts, you will see that Kaschan pops up a lot in connection with them. I also don't think Serc is lying about the less than 1 DR thing - why would he? If he's wrong, then he knows that this time, there'd be no way of wriggling out of a lynch, and I think it's still too early in the game to be going for suicide lynches. Now, coupled with that, Kaschan has come out firing today after being pretty quiet recently, and voting for Atrahal, who, if based solely on their post count, is a pretty easy target. And someone on whom Telas' kill failed - which to me suggests that he could well not be a zombie (yes, there are many other explanations for why the kill failed, but all that does is make this one of the less certain cases around). I think Kaschan has come out today because he's worried and he wants us to focus anywhere but him.

Vote Kaschan




No, I pop up a lot in connection with Tulas Shorn talking to those people. Don't lie to the thread, it is easy to prove you wrong. Are you claiming Tulas is a zombie as well?



I'm not lying, sunshine. Go back and check for yourself. As anyone else can.

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Posted 04 May 2012 - 08:35 AM

View PostTellan, on 04 May 2012 - 08:31 AM, said:

View PostKaschan, on 04 May 2012 - 08:25 AM, said:

View PostTellan, on 04 May 2012 - 08:21 AM, said:

Haha, I can see everyone was going stir crazy last night! Worth it though it seems in the end, considering the night results.

Anyway, I've read over the various cases and accusations so far, and I think Kaschan is the best choice for a lynch. If you look over the analysis I did of D'riss, Galain and Meanas' posts, you will see that Kaschan pops up a lot in connection with them. I also don't think Serc is lying about the less than 1 DR thing - why would he? If he's wrong, then he knows that this time, there'd be no way of wriggling out of a lynch, and I think it's still too early in the game to be going for suicide lynches. Now, coupled with that, Kaschan has come out firing today after being pretty quiet recently, and voting for Atrahal, who, if based solely on their post count, is a pretty easy target. And someone on whom Telas' kill failed - which to me suggests that he could well not be a zombie (yes, there are many other explanations for why the kill failed, but all that does is make this one of the less certain cases around). I think Kaschan has come out today because he's worried and he wants us to focus anywhere but him.

Vote Kaschan




No, I pop up a lot in connection with Tulas Shorn talking to those people. Don't lie to the thread, it is easy to prove you wrong. Are you claiming Tulas is a zombie as well?



I'm not lying, sunshine. Go back and check for yourself. As anyone else can.


I did. The entire discussion on thread revolved around me and Serc. Then Tulas starts talking with Meanas. Korvalain (someone we know isn't a zombie) didn't see any merit in the 'case' you are referring to. I also find it interesting that you have never been on thread anywhere near this early before, but I'm suspicious.

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Posted 04 May 2012 - 08:41 AM

View PostKaschan, on 04 May 2012 - 08:35 AM, said:

View PostTellan, on 04 May 2012 - 08:31 AM, said:

View PostKaschan, on 04 May 2012 - 08:25 AM, said:

View PostTellan, on 04 May 2012 - 08:21 AM, said:

Haha, I can see everyone was going stir crazy last night! Worth it though it seems in the end, considering the night results.

Anyway, I've read over the various cases and accusations so far, and I think Kaschan is the best choice for a lynch. If you look over the analysis I did of D'riss, Galain and Meanas' posts, you will see that Kaschan pops up a lot in connection with them. I also don't think Serc is lying about the less than 1 DR thing - why would he? If he's wrong, then he knows that this time, there'd be no way of wriggling out of a lynch, and I think it's still too early in the game to be going for suicide lynches. Now, coupled with that, Kaschan has come out firing today after being pretty quiet recently, and voting for Atrahal, who, if based solely on their post count, is a pretty easy target. And someone on whom Telas' kill failed - which to me suggests that he could well not be a zombie (yes, there are many other explanations for why the kill failed, but all that does is make this one of the less certain cases around). I think Kaschan has come out today because he's worried and he wants us to focus anywhere but him.

Vote Kaschan




No, I pop up a lot in connection with Tulas Shorn talking to those people. Don't lie to the thread, it is easy to prove you wrong. Are you claiming Tulas is a zombie as well?



I'm not lying, sunshine. Go back and check for yourself. As anyone else can.


I did. The entire discussion on thread revolved around me and Serc. Then Tulas starts talking with Meanas. Korvalain (someone we know isn't a zombie) didn't see any merit in the 'case' you are referring to. I also find it interesting that you have never been on thread anywhere near this early before, but I'm suspicious.



I tend to post from all sorts of times, but I'm pretty sure I was around about this time, maybe a little later, yesterday, so :p The connections I refer to, in the main, is the fact that you pop up at roundabout the same times as those three alts, and that they seemed unwilling to vote for you. Sure, D'riss laid down a vote on you (hardly the most vocal of the three alts), but then removed it and went for Sorrit.

On its own this isn't enough for a vote. But coupled with what Serc is saying, I think you'd be a very good choice for a lynch.

And I find it funny how you immediately start pointing fingers at someone and screaming 'SUSPICIOUS!' just because they've laid down an opening vote for you. In fact, your whole play so far today has been pretty antagonistic, which only lends fuel to the fire. You're sweating.

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Posted 04 May 2012 - 08:47 AM

View PostTellan, on 04 May 2012 - 08:41 AM, said:

View PostKaschan, on 04 May 2012 - 08:35 AM, said:

View PostTellan, on 04 May 2012 - 08:31 AM, said:

View PostKaschan, on 04 May 2012 - 08:25 AM, said:

View PostTellan, on 04 May 2012 - 08:21 AM, said:

Haha, I can see everyone was going stir crazy last night! Worth it though it seems in the end, considering the night results.

Anyway, I've read over the various cases and accusations so far, and I think Kaschan is the best choice for a lynch. If you look over the analysis I did of D'riss, Galain and Meanas' posts, you will see that Kaschan pops up a lot in connection with them. I also don't think Serc is lying about the less than 1 DR thing - why would he? If he's wrong, then he knows that this time, there'd be no way of wriggling out of a lynch, and I think it's still too early in the game to be going for suicide lynches. Now, coupled with that, Kaschan has come out firing today after being pretty quiet recently, and voting for Atrahal, who, if based solely on their post count, is a pretty easy target. And someone on whom Telas' kill failed - which to me suggests that he could well not be a zombie (yes, there are many other explanations for why the kill failed, but all that does is make this one of the less certain cases around). I think Kaschan has come out today because he's worried and he wants us to focus anywhere but him.

Vote Kaschan




No, I pop up a lot in connection with Tulas Shorn talking to those people. Don't lie to the thread, it is easy to prove you wrong. Are you claiming Tulas is a zombie as well?



I'm not lying, sunshine. Go back and check for yourself. As anyone else can.


I did. The entire discussion on thread revolved around me and Serc. Then Tulas starts talking with Meanas. Korvalain (someone we know isn't a zombie) didn't see any merit in the 'case' you are referring to. I also find it interesting that you have never been on thread anywhere near this early before, but I'm suspicious.



I tend to post from all sorts of times, but I'm pretty sure I was around about this time, maybe a little later, yesterday, so :p The connections I refer to, in the main, is the fact that you pop up at roundabout the same times as those three alts, and that they seemed unwilling to vote for you. Sure, D'riss laid down a vote on you (hardly the most vocal of the three alts), but then removed it and went for Sorrit.

On its own this isn't enough for a vote. But coupled with what Serc is saying, I think you'd be a very good choice for a lynch.

And I find it funny how you immediately start pointing fingers at someone and screaming 'SUSPICIOUS!' just because they've laid down an opening vote for you. In fact, your whole play so far today has been pretty antagonistic, which only lends fuel to the fire. You're sweating.


Or I'm just the only one actually posting tonight. We have less than a page in 6 hours when we normally have 2-3. Good try though. You've not been on this early since the game started, actually. Good try though. Yes, I find nearly everyone suspicious. I think I have a couple blocs of people outlined but I'm not sure where a couple of them fall.

I don't like that Telas was 'black magic'd' when he attacked Atrahal last night. That wasn't any form of healing I've ever seen. But then there were D'reks Healing Catapults, so maybe its innocent? Probably not. I just think its funny when everyone assumes Serc is the Priest when he is clearly a DR manipulator, but w/e.

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Posted 04 May 2012 - 08:50 AM

And, maybe if you you weren't so damn vote happy on the word 'horde', we could have lynched Telas to see if the Silencing really was zombie recruitment or not. But hey, I'm the suspicious one, right? God I hate idiots.

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Posted 04 May 2012 - 08:54 AM

View PostKaschan, on 04 May 2012 - 08:47 AM, said:

View PostTellan, on 04 May 2012 - 08:41 AM, said:

View PostKaschan, on 04 May 2012 - 08:35 AM, said:

View PostTellan, on 04 May 2012 - 08:31 AM, said:

View PostKaschan, on 04 May 2012 - 08:25 AM, said:

View PostTellan, on 04 May 2012 - 08:21 AM, said:

Haha, I can see everyone was going stir crazy last night! Worth it though it seems in the end, considering the night results.

Anyway, I've read over the various cases and accusations so far, and I think Kaschan is the best choice for a lynch. If you look over the analysis I did of D'riss, Galain and Meanas' posts, you will see that Kaschan pops up a lot in connection with them. I also don't think Serc is lying about the less than 1 DR thing - why would he? If he's wrong, then he knows that this time, there'd be no way of wriggling out of a lynch, and I think it's still too early in the game to be going for suicide lynches. Now, coupled with that, Kaschan has come out firing today after being pretty quiet recently, and voting for Atrahal, who, if based solely on their post count, is a pretty easy target. And someone on whom Telas' kill failed - which to me suggests that he could well not be a zombie (yes, there are many other explanations for why the kill failed, but all that does is make this one of the less certain cases around). I think Kaschan has come out today because he's worried and he wants us to focus anywhere but him.

Vote Kaschan




No, I pop up a lot in connection with Tulas Shorn talking to those people. Don't lie to the thread, it is easy to prove you wrong. Are you claiming Tulas is a zombie as well?



I'm not lying, sunshine. Go back and check for yourself. As anyone else can.


I did. The entire discussion on thread revolved around me and Serc. Then Tulas starts talking with Meanas. Korvalain (someone we know isn't a zombie) didn't see any merit in the 'case' you are referring to. I also find it interesting that you have never been on thread anywhere near this early before, but I'm suspicious.



I tend to post from all sorts of times, but I'm pretty sure I was around about this time, maybe a little later, yesterday, so :p The connections I refer to, in the main, is the fact that you pop up at roundabout the same times as those three alts, and that they seemed unwilling to vote for you. Sure, D'riss laid down a vote on you (hardly the most vocal of the three alts), but then removed it and went for Sorrit.

On its own this isn't enough for a vote. But coupled with what Serc is saying, I think you'd be a very good choice for a lynch.

And I find it funny how you immediately start pointing fingers at someone and screaming 'SUSPICIOUS!' just because they've laid down an opening vote for you. In fact, your whole play so far today has been pretty antagonistic, which only lends fuel to the fire. You're sweating.


Or I'm just the only one actually posting tonight. We have less than a page in 6 hours when we normally have 2-3. Good try though. You've not been on this early since the game started, actually. Good try though. Yes, I find nearly everyone suspicious. I think I have a couple blocs of people outlined but I'm not sure where a couple of them fall.

I don't like that Telas was 'black magic'd' when he attacked Atrahal last night. That wasn't any form of healing I've ever seen. But then there were D'reks Healing Catapults, so maybe its innocent? Probably not. I just think its funny when everyone assumes Serc is the Priest when he is clearly a DR manipulator, but w/e.



I don't think that anyone is assuming that Serc is a priest anymore. And if we are interpreting the most recent night scene, and if we assume Telas is the lone figure standing over the sleeping figure (who we then have to assume is Atrahal), then we might also assume that the 'black magic' as you call it was done by a third-party. After all, Atrahal was asleep, right?

It's not necessarily that way, of course, but I'm just pointing out the dangers of going from the night scene, which is what you are basing quite a bit of your accusation off of.

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Posted 04 May 2012 - 08:55 AM

View PostKaschan, on 04 May 2012 - 08:50 AM, said:

And, maybe if you you weren't so damn vote happy on the word 'horde', we could have lynched Telas to see if the Silencing really was zombie recruitment or not. But hey, I'm the suspicious one, right? God I hate idiots.



Well, if you think that, then why not vote for Telas now? God I hate hypocrites.

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Posted 04 May 2012 - 08:55 AM

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View PostTellan, on 04 May 2012 - 08:21 AM, said:

Haha, I can see everyone was going stir crazy last night! Worth it though it seems in the end, considering the night results.

Anyway, I've read over the various cases and accusations so far, and I think Kaschan is the best choice for a lynch. If you look over the analysis I did of D'riss, Galain and Meanas' posts, you will see that Kaschan pops up a lot in connection with them. I also don't think Serc is lying about the less than 1 DR thing - why would he? If he's wrong, then he knows that this time, there'd be no way of wriggling out of a lynch, and I think it's still too early in the game to be going for suicide lynches. Now, coupled with that, Kaschan has come out firing today after being pretty quiet recently, and voting for Atrahal, who, if based solely on their post count, is a pretty easy target. And someone on whom Telas' kill failed - which to me suggests that he could well not be a zombie (yes, there are many other explanations for why the kill failed, but all that does is make this one of the less certain cases around). I think Kaschan has come out today because he's worried and he wants us to focus anywhere but him.

Vote Kaschan




No, I pop up a lot in connection with Tulas Shorn talking to those people. Don't lie to the thread, it is easy to prove you wrong. Are you claiming Tulas is a zombie as well?



I'm not lying, sunshine. Go back and check for yourself. As anyone else can.


I did. The entire discussion on thread revolved around me and Serc. Then Tulas starts talking with Meanas. Korvalain (someone we know isn't a zombie) didn't see any merit in the 'case' you are referring to. I also find it interesting that you have never been on thread anywhere near this early before, but I'm suspicious.



I tend to post from all sorts of times, but I'm pretty sure I was around about this time, maybe a little later, yesterday, so :p The connections I refer to, in the main, is the fact that you pop up at roundabout the same times as those three alts, and that they seemed unwilling to vote for you. Sure, D'riss laid down a vote on you (hardly the most vocal of the three alts), but then removed it and went for Sorrit.

On its own this isn't enough for a vote. But coupled with what Serc is saying, I think you'd be a very good choice for a lynch.

And I find it funny how you immediately start pointing fingers at someone and screaming 'SUSPICIOUS!' just because they've laid down an opening vote for you. In fact, your whole play so far today has been pretty antagonistic, which only lends fuel to the fire. You're sweating.


Or I'm just the only one actually posting tonight. We have less than a page in 6 hours when we normally have 2-3. Good try though. You've not been on this early since the game started, actually. Good try though. Yes, I find nearly everyone suspicious. I think I have a couple blocs of people outlined but I'm not sure where a couple of them fall.

I don't like that Telas was 'black magic'd' when he attacked Atrahal last night. That wasn't any form of healing I've ever seen. But then there were D'reks Healing Catapults, so maybe its innocent? Probably not. I just think its funny when everyone assumes Serc is the Priest when he is clearly a DR manipulator, but w/e.



I don't think that anyone is assuming that Serc is a priest anymore. And if we are interpreting the most recent night scene, and if we assume Telas is the lone figure standing over the sleeping figure (who we then have to assume is Atrahal), then we might also assume that the 'black magic' as you call it was done by a third-party. After all, Atrahal was asleep, right?

It's not necessarily that way, of course, but I'm just pointing out the dangers of going from the night scene, which is what you are basing quite a bit of your accusation off of.


No I'm basing most of my accusation on Meta. Just like you. Hey-ooo! Pot calling Kettle Black! Oh Noes!

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Posted 04 May 2012 - 09:01 AM

View PostKaschan, on 04 May 2012 - 08:55 AM, said:


No I'm basing most of my accusation on Meta. Just like you. Hey-ooo! Pot calling Kettle Black! Oh Noes!



My vote is based on interpretation of evidence on thread. You are putting a lot of effort into attempting to discredit one measly vote.

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