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C.S. Friedman's Coldfire series
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Posted 05 April 2005 - 11:52 PM
I agree, it's an excellent series. To bad that she mostly writes sf. Although then one sf book of hers that I have read was also very good.
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Posted 27 July 2005 - 05:39 PM
Ah, the COldfire trilogy. I haven't read those in years and the delightful aftertaste of excellent writing and originality still reamin. The series was tight, and smart. I was actually disappointed that there weren't others.
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Posted 21 July 2005 - 11:35 PM
After that:
Following The Wilding, Celia plans a fantasy trilogy with a new take on magic so dark it will haunt your dreams...would you expect anything less?
I think it's going to be a while
Following The Wilding, Celia plans a fantasy trilogy with a new take on magic so dark it will haunt your dreams...would you expect anything less?
I think it's going to be a while
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Posted 07 April 2005 - 01:40 PM
Amongst my favorits...
Recommended warmly...
Tarrant might just be one of the best characters in fantacy...
Recommended warmly...
Tarrant might just be one of the best characters in fantacy...
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Posted 06 April 2005 - 02:02 PM
I loved the coldfire series, I still maintain it is one of the best book series I've ever read (right next to MBOTF). I gave her other books a shot, they were ok, but man the coldfire books were incredible.
Gerald Tarrant is one of my favorite characters ever, my own personal prophet ;-). I just wish those books were more widely known (I also wish the MBOTF was more widely known).
Why is it that drivel like the WOT and SOT series are always best sellers, but the really good stuff isn't even close?
Gerald Tarrant is one of my favorite characters ever, my own personal prophet ;-). I just wish those books were more widely known (I also wish the MBOTF was more widely known).
Why is it that drivel like the WOT and SOT series are always best sellers, but the really good stuff isn't even close?
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Posted 08 April 2005 - 05:42 AM
This series rocked! Great mix of Sci-Fi and fantasy elements. I'll have to read something else by her (eventually).
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Posted 07 April 2005 - 12:55 PM
Confusion. What is "woman fantasy"?
- Abyss, likes to think of self as 'woman's fantasy', but i digress...
- Abyss, likes to think of self as 'woman's fantasy', but i digress...
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Posted 05 April 2005 - 08:28 PM
Did a search and only came up with 'Coolest character, best female author' etc... Not a true Coldfire thread, and I think the books at least deserve that!
So what are your thoughts on the books? Like them? Hate them?
I personally loved the books. They had a very cool 'dark' feel about them. I loved how she wrote Gerald Tarrant. He's a guy you should hate, I mean he's killed thousands of innocent people. He'd easily be the bad guy in any other books, but the way she writes him causes you to just fall in love. Tarrant is the best anti-hero that I've seen in a book so far. The other characters are also nicely written. The relationship between Damien and Tarrant is also nicely done.
Anyway, just wanna hear some thoughts on the books. Thanks!
So what are your thoughts on the books? Like them? Hate them?
I personally loved the books. They had a very cool 'dark' feel about them. I loved how she wrote Gerald Tarrant. He's a guy you should hate, I mean he's killed thousands of innocent people. He'd easily be the bad guy in any other books, but the way she writes him causes you to just fall in love. Tarrant is the best anti-hero that I've seen in a book so far. The other characters are also nicely written. The relationship between Damien and Tarrant is also nicely done.
Anyway, just wanna hear some thoughts on the books. Thanks!
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Posted 06 April 2005 - 07:59 AM
The others I havent read but the Coldfire series is great. It's both original and well written. If anything, it's a scifi/fantasy hybrid.
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Posted 06 April 2005 - 07:30 AM
Brilliant series. Messes with concepts of religion, reality and faith in huge ways. Wel written characters, especially Vryce and Tarrant.
The notion of a holy man interacting with his Christ figure, who also happens to be the antichrist is just cool.
I've read her other books - Madness Season is clever, tho at times slow. In Conquest Born was dissappointing and Alien Shores just bit - predictable, unoriginal and trite, altho the one page foreword dedication to her mother is well worth reading.
- Abyss, thought the Coldfire covers particularly striking.
The notion of a holy man interacting with his Christ figure, who also happens to be the antichrist is just cool.
I've read her other books - Madness Season is clever, tho at times slow. In Conquest Born was dissappointing and Alien Shores just bit - predictable, unoriginal and trite, altho the one page foreword dedication to her mother is well worth reading.
- Abyss, thought the Coldfire covers particularly striking.
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Posted 13 July 2005 - 07:25 AM
The Coldfire books are certainly among the best I've ever read. Excellent world building, character building and plotting.
Haven't read Madness Season, but In Conquest Born was great. Has anyone read the "sequel" The Wilding?
I agree that This Alien Shore was rather predictable, and not up to her usual standards, but still allright.
Anyone heard anything as to when her next book might be out?
Haven't read Madness Season, but In Conquest Born was great. Has anyone read the "sequel" The Wilding?
I agree that This Alien Shore was rather predictable, and not up to her usual standards, but still allright.
Anyone heard anything as to when her next book might be out?
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Posted 06 April 2005 - 02:10 PM
pretty good.
very good, even.
but something about it... doh, maybe it's just that I generally despise all woman fantasy, and these series being the only exception, the only woman fantasy that I liked. and Tarrant is a very good character.
and I'm still to get my hands on part III
very good, even.
but something about it... doh, maybe it's just that I generally despise all woman fantasy, and these series being the only exception, the only woman fantasy that I liked. and Tarrant is a very good character.
and I'm still to get my hands on part III
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Posted 22 July 2005 - 06:49 AM
I can only hope her next trilogy is more Coldfire than Alien Shore.
I vaguely recall AS was originally supposed to be the first of a trilogy, but was ultimately marketed as a stand-alone, i suspect because the publisher realized how weak it was.
And I agree with Hetan - CSF isn't the most prolific writer, so i expect it will be a while.
- Abyss, due for a Madness Season reread.
I vaguely recall AS was originally supposed to be the first of a trilogy, but was ultimately marketed as a stand-alone, i suspect because the publisher realized how weak it was.
And I agree with Hetan - CSF isn't the most prolific writer, so i expect it will be a while.
- Abyss, due for a Madness Season reread.
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Posted 22 July 2005 - 09:55 AM
I luv the Madness Season, I should reread it some time.
Just thought of the scene in In Conquest Born when the young telepath has a wet dream
Just thought of the scene in In Conquest Born when the young telepath has a wet dream
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Posted 08 April 2005 - 01:08 PM
I've always wondered if Rake is something of a Gerald Tarrant copy. Super cool sword, uses dark fae/warren magic incredibly well, exudes coolness, kicks everything's ass, been around for a damned long time, prideful, arrogant... the list goes on.
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Posted 05 August 2005 - 12:30 AM
Well, I have now read the first two books, but I hesitate to order the third.
I really don't like this premise of few (weak) characters going against some uber-powerful demon/whatever. Yes, Tarrant is powerful but he wasn't match for Prince and certainly doesn't seem to be match for Calesta. I dont mind the uberpowerful types when there is balance between them (such as in MBotF). Also the endings of both books were quite weak, I fear that third one follows the same formula.
So, despite all this, any reasons why I should buy/read the Crown of Shadows ?
I really don't like this premise of few (weak) characters going against some uber-powerful demon/whatever. Yes, Tarrant is powerful but he wasn't match for Prince and certainly doesn't seem to be match for Calesta. I dont mind the uberpowerful types when there is balance between them (such as in MBotF). Also the endings of both books were quite weak, I fear that third one follows the same formula.
So, despite all this, any reasons why I should buy/read the Crown of Shadows ?
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Posted 05 August 2005 - 04:52 PM
vaiski said:
Well, I have now read the first two books, but I hesitate to order the third.
I really don't like this premise of few (weak) characters going against some uber-powerful demon/whatever. Yes, Tarrant is powerful but he wasn't match for Prince and certainly doesn't seem to be match for Calesta. I dont mind the uberpowerful types when there is balance between them (such as in MBotF). Also the endings of both books were quite weak, I fear that third one follows the same formula.
So, despite all this, any reasons why I should buy/read the Crown of Shadows ?
I really don't like this premise of few (weak) characters going against some uber-powerful demon/whatever. Yes, Tarrant is powerful but he wasn't match for Prince and certainly doesn't seem to be match for Calesta. I dont mind the uberpowerful types when there is balance between them (such as in MBotF). Also the endings of both books were quite weak, I fear that third one follows the same formula.
So, despite all this, any reasons why I should buy/read the Crown of Shadows ?
Hmmm... I have to admit, if you didn't enjoy the first two, I'm not sure you'd find the third any better. There is resolution to most of the plot threads, some fairly cool delving into Tarrant's family, and a few moments that are just outright brilliant. And it actually ends in three books - a rarity.
But that said, the tone is the same, it's low on sheer action, and nothing is so strikingly different along the lines of 'ok-you-hated-GotM-but-try-DG-you'll-love-it'.
Maybe watch for it in a second hand shop so you don't pay full price?
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Posted 05 August 2005 - 08:43 PM
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Maybe watch for it in a second hand shop so you don't pay full price?
Ahh if only Finland had any decent second hand book shops. From my experience, finding any scifi/fantasy outside the asimov-jordan-weis trio in here is a gargantuan(?) stroke of luck.
And sadly enough, I'm exaggerating only a little. But thanks anyways.
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