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Basic Setup

PS password = turbulent

Town Roles:

Emperor - The emperor (their alt) is known by everyone. They cannot be lynched, cannot be killed, and cannot be recruited. (Basically, this is the Fener role from twelve's game, except here the role is head of the Town, not the scum to be removed).

The emperor has no personal powers, but can still use what influence he has on others to accomplish certain goals. Once a night, the emperor can give a power to one of his vassals. He has 5 one-time powers to give. 2 vigs, 2 finds, 1 anti-recruit 'heal'. These are "one-time" powers so for example the vassal does not become a finder, but receives a one-off find. The player receiving the power will be informed via PM. They may not use their power on the same night they receive it, but may use it beginning the following night or they may save it for later.

Scum cannot receive these powers. The emperor will not be informed of success or failure of the giving out of these powers. Only one power can be awarded to a single player.

Minister of the Left

The most powerful minister under the Emperor, the Minister of the Left can choose one target nightly. That target cannot be recruited. They may not target themselves.

It takes two recruit attempts to recruit the Minister of the Left.

Minister of the Right

The second most powerful minister under the Emperor, The Minister of the Right can choose one target nightly. That target cannot be recruited. They may not target themselves.

It takes two recruit attempts to recruit the Minister of the Right.

Minister of the Center

It takes two recruit attempts to recruit the Minister of the Center.

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Scum roles:

There are 3 competing scum teams, each starting with a single player with the exact same power.

Primary Recruiter:
In order to gain influence within the imperial palace, recruiters will attempt to bring imperial ministers into their 'camp'.

Once a night, they can attempt to recruit a player. They will receive one of 3 messages at the end of the night - Success, Partial-success, Failure.

The Primary Recruiter cannot be recruited by other scum teams.

Secondary Recruiter

The first player recruited by the Primary becomes the successor to the Recruiter. If the Primary dies, the Secondary can continue recruiting.

The Secondary Recruiter cannot be recruited by other scum teams.

High Recruit

The second player recruited by the Primary (or Secondary).

It takes two attempts for another scum team to recruit the High Recruit. (partial success on first try)

Cannot inherit recruit ability.

Low Recruit

Any recruit after the second to be recruited by the scum team.

It only takes one attempt to draw away the Low Recruit by another scum team.

Cannot inherit the recruit ability.


Secondary Recruiter learns the identity of the Primary. All recruits after the Secondary recruit learn only the name of the person recruited before them.

CF's will include the following information in addition to alt/player - "Minister +Title", "Bribed Minister +Title", "Recruiter". In the case of the Secondary recruiter, if they die before they inherit, they CF as "Bribed Minister +Title". If they die after inheritance they CF as "Bribed Recruiter +Title" .

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 16 March 2012 - 05:28 AM

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Role Alts Password Player



Teams as of Day 1

Townies Left = 18 (18 vs 1 vs 1 vs 1)

Gamelons

Tennes

Korvalain

Teams as of Day 2

Townies Left = 16 (16 vs 2 vs 1 vs 1)

Gamelon + Atrahal

Tennes

Korvalain

Teams as of Day 3

Townies Left = 12 (12 vs 3 vs 2 vs 1)

Gamelon + Atrahal(Unrecruitable+Inherits) + Ruse(2RecruitAtt.Necessary)

Tennes + Okaros(Urecruitable+Inherits)

Korvalain + PartialRecruit Kalse


Teams as of Day 4

Townies Left = 8 (8 vs 4 vs 2 vs 2)

Gamelon + Atrahal(Unrecruitable+Inherits) + Ruse(2RecruitAtt.Necessary) + D'riss (1RecruitAtt.Necessary)

Tennes + Okaros(Urecruitable+Inherits)

Korvalain + Kalse

Teams as of Day 5

Townies left = 7 (7 vs 4 vs 2 vs 2)

Gamelon + Ruse (2RecruitAtt.Necessary) + D'riss (1RecruitAtt.Necessary) + Rashan (1RecruitAtt.Necessary)

Tennes + Okaros(Unrecruitable+Inherits)

Korvalain + Kalse (Unrecruitable+Inherits)


Teams as of Day 6

Townies left = 5 (5 vs 5 vs 2 vs 2) (Silanah, Mockra, Omtose, Tellan, Serc)

Gamelon + Ruse (2RecruitAtt.Necessary) + D'riss (1RecruitAtt.Necessary) + Rashan (1RecruitAtt.Necessary) +Barghast (1RecruitAtt.Necessary)

Tennes + Okaros(Unrecruitable+Inherits) +Partial Success Mockra

Korvalain + Kalse (Unrecruitable+Inherits) +Partial Success Omtose

Teams as of Day 7

Townies left = 4 (4 vs 4 vs 3 vs 2) (Silanah, Omtose, Tellan, Serc)

Gamelon + D'riss (1RecruitAtt.Necessary) + Rashan (1Rec.Att.Nec) + Barghast (1RAN)

Tennes + Okaros (Unrec.+Inh.) + Mockra (2RAN)

Korvalain + Kalse (U+I) + Partial Success Omtose

Teams as of Day 8

Townies left = 3 (3 vs 3 vs 4 vs 2) (Silanah, Omtose, Serc)

Gamelon + D'riss (1RecruitAtt.Necessary) + Barghast (1RAN) + Partial Success Omtose

Tennes + Okaros (Unrec.+Inh.) + Mockra (2RAN) + Tellan (1RecruitAtt.Necessary)

Korvalain + Kalse (U+I) + Rashan (2RecruitAtt.Necessary) + Partial Success Omtose

Teams as of Day 9

Townies left = 2 (Silanah, Serc) (2 vs 3 vs 5 vs 1)

Gamelon + D'riss (1RecruitAtt.Necessary) + Omtose (2-RAN)

Tennes + Okaros (Unrec.+Inh.) + Mockra (2RAN) + Tellan (1RecruitAtt.Necessary) + Barghast (1RAN)

Rashan (1RAN)

Teams as of Day 10

Townies left = 2 (Silanah, Serc) (2 vs 3 vs 5)

Gamelon + D'riss (1RecruitAtt.Necessary) + Omtose (2-RAN)

Tennes + Okaros (Unrec.+Inh.) + Mockra (2RAN) + Tellan (1RecruitAtt.Necessary) + Barghast (1RAN)

Teams as of Day 11

Townies left = 2 (Silanah, Serc) (2 vs 3 vs 4)

Gamelon + D'riss (1RecruitAtt.Necessary) + Omtose (2-RAN), + Tellan (1RecruitAtt.Necessary)

Tennes + Okaros (Unrec.+Inh.) + Mockra (2RAN) + Tellan (1RecruitAtt.Necessary) + Barghast (1RAN)

Teams as of Day 12

Townies left = 2 (Silanah, Serc) (2 vs 2 vs 5)

Gamelon + Omtose (2-RAN), + Tellan (1RecruitAtt.Necessary)

Tennes + Okaros (Unrec.+Inh.) + Mockra (2RAN) + Barghast (1RAN) + Omtose (2-RAN)

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 24 April 2012 - 02:46 AM

[Path-Shaper]

Role PM's

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You are Emperor Go-Kashiwabara

Your Alt is known by everyone. You cannot be lynched, cannot be killed, and cannot be recruited. (Basically, this is the Fener role from twelve's game, except in this game you are the head of the town faction).

The power you wield as emperor has much withered under the weight of military rule, so you cannot do much to direct events by yourself. Instead, you must use your remaining influence to get others to help. You only hope they can direct your Will successfully!

Power Once a night, you can give a power to one of your vassals. You have 5 one-time powers to give.

2 vigs
2 finds
1 anti-recruit 'heal'.

These are "one-time" powers so for example the vassal does not become a permanent finder, but instead receive a one-off find.

You may vote with everyone else during the day, of course.
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You are Fujiwara no Saneatsu / Fujiwara no Fuyuyoshi

Sadaijin / Udaijin (Minister of the Left/Right)


The most/second most powerful minister under the Emperor. You can choose one target nightly. That target cannot be recruited. You may not target yourself.

Your cultural specialty is Calligraphy/Poetry.
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You are Naidaijin (Minister of the Center)

You are RI

Your cultural specialty is Noh dance.
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You are Shikibu (Minister of Civil Services)

You are RI

Your cultural specialty is Poetry
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You are Nakatsukasa - sho (Center Minister)

You are RI

Your cultural specialty is Painting.
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You are Jibu (Minister of Ceremonies)

You are RI

Your cultural specialty is Poetry
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You are Minbu (Minister of Taxation)

You are RI

Your cultural specialty is Calligraphy
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You are Hyobu (Minister of the Military)

You are RI

Your cultural specialty is Noh Dance
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You are Gyobu (Minister of Justice)

You are RI

Your cultural specialty is Poetry
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You are Okura (Minister of the Treasury)

You are RI

Your cultural specialty is Calligraphy
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You are Kunai (Minister of the Imperial Household)

You are RI

Your cultural specialty is Painting
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You are Dainago - (Major Counselor of the Imperial Household)

You are RI

Your cultural specialty is Calligraphy
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You are Chunagon (Middle Counselor of the Imperial Household)

You are RI

Your cultural specialty is Poetry
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You are Shonagon (Minor Counselor of the Imperial Household)

You are RI

Your cultural specialty is Noh Dance
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This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 12 March 2012 - 10:20 PM

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Scum PM's

You are Hosokawa Sumiyuki, a warlord attempting to gain a modicum of power over the Imperial Household.

You are a scum recruiter.

Once per night, you can attempt to recruit a player. You will receive one of 3 messages at the end of the night - Success, Partial-success, Failure.

Your cultural specialty is Noh Dance.
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You are Ouchi Yoshioki, a warlord attempting to gain a modicum of power over the Imperial Household.

You are a scum recruiter.

Once per night, you can attempt to recruit a player. You will receive one of 3 messages at the end of the night - Success, Partial-success, Failure.

Your cultural specialty is Painting.

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You are a warrior monk of the Ikko-Ikki. Your sect of Jodo Shinshu Buddhism is growing in power, and your wish is to gain some power within the Imperial Household itself.

You are a scum recruiter.

Once per night, you can attempt to recruit a player. You will receive one of 3 messages at the end of the night - Success, Partial-success, Failure.

Your cultural specialty is Calligraphy

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 11 March 2012 - 04:44 AM

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Night Actions

Night 1

Gamelon: Recruit Atrahal
Korvalain: Recruit Liosan
Tennes: Recruit Liosan

Kalse: Protect D'riss
Mockra: Protect Sorrit

Night 2
Tennes: Recruit Okaros
Korvalain: Recruit Kalse
Gamelon: Ruse

Silanah: Give Vig to Serc
Mockra: Protect Omtose
Kalse: Heal Korvalain (meant for each other?)

Night 3
Tennes: Recruit Sorrit
Gamelon: Recruit D'riss
Korvalain: Recruit Kalse

Kalse: Heal Korvalain
Mockra: Heal Omtose. If lynched, Gamelon.
Silanah: Give find to Korvalain.
Serc: Vig Sorrit

Night 4
Tennes: Recruit Barghast
Gamelon: Recruit Rashan
Korvalain: Recruit Omtose (from his list)

Mockra protects Barghast

Night 5 (First come First Serve recruits start tonight.)

Tennes: Recruit Mockra
Korvalain: Recruit Omtose
Gamelon: Recruit Barghast

Mockra: Protect Omtose (will cancel Korv's recruit tonight, but doesn't erase the partial success)
Silanah: Give find to Rashan. (fails)

Night 6

Tennes: Recruit Mockra (Succeeds)
Korvalain: Recruit Omtose (May or may not fail depending on who Mockra chooses to protect)
Gamelon: Recruit Korvalain (Fails)

Mockra: Protect Omtose (Cancels Korvalain's recruit)
Silanah: None

Night 7

Tennes: Recruit Tellan (will succeed)
Korvalain: Recruit Rashan (meaningless)
Gamelon: Recruit Omtose (Will get partial success)

Mockra:
Silanah: Give vig to D'riss (fails)

Night 8
Gamelon: Recruit Omtose (Will succeed)
Korvalain:
Tennes: Recruit Barghast (Will succeed in stealing recruit)

Mockra:
Silanah: (Has one heal left to give)

Night 9

Gamelon: Recruit Tennes (Haha!)
Tennes: Recruit Gamelon (Hahahah!)

Silanah: Has no valid targets anymore.
Mockra: Protect Tennes (Oh, the irony!)

Night 10

Gamelon: Recruit Tellan (will succeed) keeping the chance alive???
Tennes: Recruit Omtose (partial success) oh my... if only he didn't have that aversion to Serc

Mockra:

Night 11

Gamelon: Recruit Okaros (fails, ah well)
Tennes: Recruit Omtose (no surprise).

Any non-Hosokawa lynch and that will be the game, since Gamelon will lose Omtose, and won't gain Mockra.

Mockra:

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 02 April 2012 - 10:48 AM

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Clarifications for specific situations:

If two recruiters target the same person in the same night before Day 5, the recruit attempt fails for both. If it is Night 5, the recruit will go to the first person to submit the recruit action.

If a person is recruited and they possess an ability given by the emperor, they are allowed to keep the ability but MUST use it or lose it the following night.

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 11 March 2012 - 08:32 AM

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Tennes, on 13 March 2012 - 01:48 PM, said:

Do you want a provisional list of who to recruit in case I am not here for deadline?

Liosan, Mockra, Rashan, Ruse, Serc, Sorrit, Atrahal, Barghast, D'riss, Emurlahn, Fener, Gamelon, Kalse, Karosis, Korvalain, Okaros, Omtose, Olar Ethil



This order unless stated.

[Path-Shaper]

If anyone wants to step in to PS from time to time, be my guest. This game isn't the beast to mod that my last one was, so I don't mind if anyone wants to help out.

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Korvalain, on 13 March 2012 - 02:48 PM, said:

Recruit list provisional.

Recruit first person on list unless dead then recruit next one down.

Liosan
Emurlahn
Tellan

Serc
Tennes
D'riss
Sorrit

Fener
Ruse
Atrahal
Kalse

Barghast
Okaros
Omtose
Mockra

Gamelon
Rashan
Olar Ethil
Karosis
Korvalain
Silanah

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 13 March 2012 - 09:46 PM

[Path-Shaper]

Some early scum guesses:

Karosis, on 13 March 2012 - 04:43 PM, said:

Alright, so everyone has taken your Poetry/Calligraphy thing and run with it. The question is, who actually had a speciality in their role, and who is making it up as they go along. Of course, I can't rule out that the scum have specialities too...

My gut makes me immediately suspicious of Kalse, whose first post screams "I want to look like helpful little Mafia player!" while simultaneously jumping on an already oversaturated RP bandwagon. If he gives me a post or two more, I'm going to apply some pressure and see what happens.

ST

Serc, on 13 March 2012 - 04:15 PM, said:

Rashan is scum

[Path-Shaper]

And two completely different reactions to the RI role

Atrahal, on 13 March 2012 - 09:07 PM, said:

After a string of high-profile roles, I have to say I am very glad to see that 'you are RI' message I've always likes playing RI -- something about that lack of restrictive responsibility that comes with power.....

Tellan, on 13 March 2012 - 06:02 PM, said:

RI

Here's hoping I get recruited.

[Dinivan]

Olar Ethil, on 13 March 2012 - 07:04 PM, said:

Quote

/snip

Ah, but there's a difference between people who are not posting much and people who are laying low. I mean, you're not going to lynch someone who has said nothing, but someone who posts but is non-committal...those you can go after.

What Karosis said here also made me uneasy. Going for someone who seems non-committal, not someone who hasn't posted but someone who is not making waves? It is day one. Day one generally does not see very many strong cases and it can be understandable then why people are non-committal, many are even though they vote a certain player on day one. I'm not saying non-commital players do not warrant attention but I think that they become more apparent and more likely to be scum or role later in the game. On day one it can be a combination of not much to comment on, weak cases and time constraints. I think going after that on day one makes it just as likely to hit town.

eh, snipping my former post, I think I went a little overboard, as last vet's game was still on my mind a bit, and that was a special situation.

Generally I dislike (as Karosis does) the tendency to let day 1 slide, to find nothing bad in non-committal behaviour etc. Only gives places for scum to hide, doesn't benefit town.

Now here OE (and someone else later one) even advocate that non-commital players should be alone, as scum is usually "more enthusiastic about the game". this approach minimizes the possible information on the thread and should be abandoned.

This post has been edited by Dinivan: 14 March 2012 - 08:10 AM

[Dinivan]

Karosis, on 14 March 2012 - 12:37 AM, said:

Rashan, on 14 March 2012 - 12:27 AM, said:

And I fail to see how that makes me lazy. There's nothing to defend from, nothing I can say.

I'll make a case of my own if I find something that deserves a case. But I'm not going to create a terrible case on someone else just to save my own ass.

It's not to save your own ass, it's to provide information to the town. Shake a few trees and see what falls out. Otherwise there's no way people are going to be able to form opinions about the 20 other players in the game. There are going to be terrible cases on Day 1, it's a fact of life. But if there are 10 to choose from rather than 1, there's more chance that one of them will actually be right. So throw some dirt against the wall and see what sticks rather than just sitting back and accepting the inevitable.

^What he said.

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Gamelon, on 14 March 2012 - 01:39 AM, said:

Well that's about what I expected

provisional recruit on Atrahal

I'll probably change that once or twice before day's end. Decision making is not my strong point.

[Dinivan]

And there is some Action! Maybe I need to take back some of what I said earlier.

Tendentially, I would agree with Atrahal's evaluation of Okaros' Post, btw. And I dont get what Tennes finds so immensely contributory about it.

Anyone else noted the scum slip of Gamelon, where he commented that he liked the Emperor-role, and said something like "I am worried town might be led by him"?

[Path-Shaper]

STD has made all kinds of friends this game. This is only one of several PM's complaining.

Kalse, on 14 March 2012 - 06:55 PM, said:

I am going to switch. Korv is getting too much heat and probably wont be a recruit target.

Provisional Heal on D'riss


Also, whoever Karosis is, their play is really pissing me off. Coming across as a know it all. Honestly, I'm not sure they are likely scum, but I want to run the train over them, just to shut them up

[Path-Shaper]

So, as of right now Atrahal (Khell) will join Gamelon (King Lear) as the games first and only recruit. The other two are sticking with Liosan, which means their recruit fails. Let's see how they play that....

No indication from Sil yet as to whom she wishes to give a power.

[Path-Shaper]

2 for 2, nicely done Emperor

Silanah, on 14 March 2012 - 11:33 PM, said:

Rashan: JLV

Silanah, on 14 March 2012 - 11:33 PM, said:

Rashan: JLV

[Dinivan]

Mind is blown.

How can be Karosis be such a huge distraction it needs lynching (btw, this argument always sucks)
And because some very few players also play "erratic" when they are scum, suddenly erratic=scum ? (Atrahal analysis this correctly, imho)

And thread leader=scum, too? ("I think he tries to control the thread, so must be scum")

Barking up many trees = scum ?


I sure don't get this metagame. How they can lynch karosis here is beyond me. Atrahal+Rashan are playing a nice game so far, shame that they can't/dont try hard enough to prevent the karosis lynch. Silanah also shifted her vote too fast.