[thatoneguy]

Ok i have a quick question regarding who is with and against the Malazans.Betwwen the wikans,red blades and followers of the apocalypes.

im about 100 hundred pages in

and also what are the goals of the groups?

[worry]

The Wickans are natives of Quon Tali, and they are part of the Malazan Empire. The Red Blades are Seven Cities natives who support the Malazan Empire and formed a special military unit to do just that. The Followers of the Apocalypse are Seven Cities natives who are a mix of religious zealots, opportunists, tribals, and various rebels that all oppose the Malazan conquest of their lands.

This post has been edited by worrywort: 09 March 2012 - 01:05 AM

[thatoneguy]

 worrywort, on 09 March 2012 - 01:04 AM, said:

The Wickans are natives of Quon Tali, and they are part of the Malazan Empire. The Red Blades are Seven Cities natives who support the Malazan Empire and formed a special military unit to do just that. The Followers of the Apocalypse are Seven Cities natives who are a mix of religious zealots, opportunists, tribals, and various rebels that all oppose the Malazan conquest of their lands.

ok on the part i just read it seemed that the redblades and wikans were about to fight are the two groups against each other or was that just an occasion?

[worry]

All will be revealed.

[D'rek]

 thatoneguy, on 09 March 2012 - 01:24 AM, said:

 worrywort, on 09 March 2012 - 01:04 AM, said:

The Wickans are natives of Quon Tali, and they are part of the Malazan Empire. The Red Blades are Seven Cities natives who support the Malazan Empire and formed a special military unit to do just that. The Followers of the Apocalypse are Seven Cities natives who are a mix of religious zealots, opportunists, tribals, and various rebels that all oppose the Malazan conquest of their lands.

ok on the part i just read it seemed that the redblades and wikans were about to fight are the two groups against each other or was that just an occasion?

Officially, they're on the same side - they are both groups that support the Empress and the Malazan Empire. But that doesn't mean they have to like each other Basically, the Red Blades consider themselves keepers of the peace and like to very violently put down any signs of rebellion or unlawfulness that they come upon in their patrols. The Wickans have quite a reputation as being a crazy, uncivilized mob. So the Red Blades, who are all about law and order, don't have a very high opinion of the barbaric Wickans.

[Gorro]

 D, on 09 March 2012 - 02:42 PM, said:

 thatoneguy, on 09 March 2012 - 01:24 AM, said:

 worrywort, on 09 March 2012 - 01:04 AM, said:

The Wickans are natives of Quon Tali, and they are part of the Malazan Empire. The Red Blades are Seven Cities natives who support the Malazan Empire and formed a special military unit to do just that. The Followers of the Apocalypse are Seven Cities natives who are a mix of religious zealots, opportunists, tribals, and various rebels that all oppose the Malazan conquest of their lands.

ok on the part i just read it seemed that the redblades and wikans were about to fight are the two groups against each other or was that just an occasion?

Officially, they're on the same side - they are both groups that support the Empress and the Malazan Empire. But that doesn't mean they have to like each other Basically, the Red Blades consider themselves keepers of the peace and like to very violently put down any signs of rebellion or unlawfulness that they come upon in their patrols. The Wickans have quite a reputation as being a crazy, uncivilized mob. So the Red Blades, who are all about law and order, don't have a very high opinion of the barbaric Wickans.

I thought the opposite. Red blades are fanatics for the Malazan and in the stand off you read they were about to dish out indiscriminate vigilante justice on the general population. The Wickans on this occassion were keeping the peace, ie protecting the population.
They are both pro Malazan

[worry]

Well the Red Blades wouldn't be vigilantes in that instance, since they do have, at least de facto, the authority they were planning to exert. And keeping the peace ≠ protecting the population, though it's a sweet thought. Other than that, what you said is essentially right in that situation, but it doesn't contradict what D'rek said.

[Black Winged Lord]

 worrywort, on 12 March 2012 - 07:27 AM, said:

Well the Red Blades wouldn't be vigilantes in that instance, since they do have, at least de facto, the authority they were planning to exert. And keeping the peace ≠ protecting the population, though it's a sweet thought. Other than that, what you said is essentially right in that situation, but it doesn't contradict what D'rek said.

Sorry worry but in this instance I can't see that any authority granted them, de-facto or otherwise, would have allowed for what they were clearly planning. Taking a few steps of the boats and then just opening up a fukn cavalry charge in the middle of the marketplace. Would have definitely had collateral damage of malazan settlers.

Of course if the wickans hadn't anticipated it, I'm sure the red blade officers would have been slightly apologetic and got away with only a rap on the knuckles. If that.

[worry]

On that we'll have to disagree.


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