[Ben Delat]

So I am glancing through GotM again(is this the 3rd or 5th time through? =)) and noticed that someone from OST is in the beginning of that book as well.....Aragan.....who was the Staff Seargant in Ito Kan who recruited a girl named Sorry into the army.



Anyone else notice any tie-backs to the beginning of our epic adventures?

[Defiance]

Aragan shows up in several Malazan novels. Keep an eye out for the name when you reread

[Khellendros]

Yep, Aragan was originally supposed to cameo in every single Malazan novel. Each time we saw him he was supposed to have, somewhat accidentally, found himself higher up the command chain, but Erikson could find no way to cram him into House of Chains and, especially, Midnight Tides, so kind of gave up on it.

One of the things I like about ICE is that he resurrected this character. I've put in spoilers below where you can find him.

Spoiler

GotM - the recruiting sergeant at Itko Kan
DG - a Fist in Mock's Hold
MoI - ambassador who arrives at Black Coral at the very end
NoK - a sergeant or captain (can't remember) in a flashback to the riots in the Mouse Quarter
And, obviously, OST as the Darujhistan ambassador

[D'rek]

 K0rbas, on 28 February 2012 - 11:07 PM, said:

Yep, Aragan was originally supposed to cameo in every single Malazan novel. Each time we saw him he was supposed to have, somewhat accidentally, found himself higher up the command chain, but Erikson could find no way to cram him into House of Chains and, especially, Midnight Tides, so kind of gave up on it.

One of the things I like about ICE is that he resurrected this character. I've put in spoilers below where you can find him.

Spoiler

GotM - the recruiting sergeant at Itko Kan
DG - a Fist in Mock's Hold
MoI - ambassador who arrives at Black Coral at the very end
NoK - a sergeant or captain (can't remember) in a flashback to the riots in the Mouse Quarter
And, obviously, OST as the Darujhistan ambassador

also:

Spoiler

tBH - Fist in Malaz City at the end (drinking in a corner)
RG - nobleman (or at least noble-born), part of the envoy to the Moranth (mentioned in a flashback)

[Ben Delat]

yep yep, somehow I had noticed all those other cameos but didn't remember him in GOTM, guess cause it is the first 25 pages of the book and so much happens throughout.

I noticed the progression also from Staff sargent, to Fist, to Ambassador....For some reason I never made the connection that they were trying to put him in all of them in some shape or form.


Other small characters like this? I mean we expect the major ones to show up throughout the books but I think some of these minor roles are what pulls everything together, icing on the cake so to speak.

This post has been edited by Ben Delat: 28 February 2012 - 11:46 PM

[Khellendros]

 D, on 28 February 2012 - 11:26 PM, said:

 K0rbas, on 28 February 2012 - 11:07 PM, said:

Yep, Aragan was originally supposed to cameo in every single Malazan novel. Each time we saw him he was supposed to have, somewhat accidentally, found himself higher up the command chain, but Erikson could find no way to cram him into House of Chains and, especially, Midnight Tides, so kind of gave up on it.

One of the things I like about ICE is that he resurrected this character. I've put in spoilers below where you can find him.

Spoiler

GotM - the recruiting sergeant at Itko Kan
DG - a Fist in Mock's Hold
MoI - ambassador who arrives at Black Coral at the very end
NoK - a sergeant or captain (can't remember) in a flashback to the riots in the Mouse Quarter
And, obviously, OST as the Darujhistan ambassador

also:

Spoiler

tBH - Fist in Malaz City at the end (drinking in a corner)
RG - nobleman (or at least noble-born), part of the envoy to the Moranth (mentioned in a flashback)

Of course you're right, how could I forget!


With regards to any other characters like this, Aragan is pretty unique in featuring in so many, but there is also the nameless captain from the beginning of GotM who guides Lorn to the cavalry slaughter at Itko Kan where she meets Paran - he pops up again in HoC after Tavore's cavalry is ambushed by Leoman.

And Nait/Jumpy may or may not have appeared at one point in OST.

[Khellendros]

There's also the more well-known young girl who Fiddler and co rescue from being raped and killed in G'danisban in DG and the guy whose face is bitten by Fiddler's horse in the same place - they both pop up in tBH when Paran goes to confront Poliel.

[Ben Delat]

hm, i never made the connection that the girl was the one and the same, Ill have to go back and reread that part but I dont remember them saying anything to connect her as being the same one Fiddler saved,



and something completely off my original topic, in a GotM reread Kruppe mentions looking for his Grandmothers name in the listing of those who attended the chaining, since I don't recal any mortals being present are we to assume his grandmother is ascendant? Would make a lot of sense as to his powers.

This post has been edited by Ben Delat: 05 March 2012 - 11:35 PM

[Aptorian]

There were mortals at the chaining, amongst others Dancer, Dassem's daughter and Fener's Mortal Sword (I think it was the MS could be one of the other two).

[Khellendros]

 Ben Delat, on 05 March 2012 - 11:33 PM, said:

hm, i never made the connection that the girl was the one and the same, Ill have to go back and reread that part but I dont remember them saying anything to connect her as being the same one Fiddler saved,



and something completely off my original topic, in a GotM reread Kruppe mentions looking for his Grandmothers name in the listing of those who attended the chaining, since I don't recal any mortals being present are we to assume his grandmother is ascendant? Would make a lot of sense as to his powers.

What Apt said, but, more to the point, Kruppe was making a joke, exaggerating the number of names.