[Path-Shaper]

Goodnight. It's all you Gav/Dini/whoever wants to resolve.

[Obdigore]

 D, on 08 March 2012 - 04:56 AM, said:

 Obdigore, on 08 March 2012 - 04:53 AM, said:

Macros- Ment, Dkt, K0rbas, Stalker, Obdi
Stalker- Bent, Macros, HD, JA, D'rek

If Stalker is scum, then all scum are on Maccys train. Ment is dead (but could have been symp I guess). That would make the scum between DKT, Korbas, Stalker, and Obdi.

If Stalker is a healer, then all scum are on Stalkers train. That would make the scum Bent, Maccy, JA, or D'rek. JA is dead but could have been symp.

D'rek, because I'm too lazy to read right now, DID you change trains between them at some point yesterday? Iirc someone claimed you did and you rebuffed that claim?

No, I did not. I was voting Stalker, and when he got to L-1 after JA voted with 9 hours left or so I removed while I was on-thread so he wouldn't get drive-by-hammered. When I had to go (and he still hadn't shown up yet), I put back on. I never voted Macros, and never thought Stalker wasn't the best choice, contrary to what Bent says.

To bad. That would have made you surely innocent in my eyes since one of those two is scum.

[Obdigore]

 H.D., on 08 March 2012 - 04:54 AM, said:

I will vote for everyone of you if it will get a lynch.

Though I'd prefer Stalker or Maccy because... how the fuck didn't one of them get lynched. Seriously.

So you have given up on the thread, and just say you will vote for anyone to get a lynch? I mean really. For the only PI we have you need to at least try to contribute.

[D'rek]

 Obdigore, on 08 March 2012 - 04:58 AM, said:

 D, on 08 March 2012 - 04:56 AM, said:

 Obdigore, on 08 March 2012 - 04:53 AM, said:

Macros- Ment, Dkt, K0rbas, Stalker, Obdi
Stalker- Bent, Macros, HD, JA, D'rek

If Stalker is scum, then all scum are on Maccys train. Ment is dead (but could have been symp I guess). That would make the scum between DKT, Korbas, Stalker, and Obdi.

If Stalker is a healer, then all scum are on Stalkers train. That would make the scum Bent, Maccy, JA, or D'rek. JA is dead but could have been symp.

D'rek, because I'm too lazy to read right now, DID you change trains between them at some point yesterday? Iirc someone claimed you did and you rebuffed that claim?

No, I did not. I was voting Stalker, and when he got to L-1 after JA voted with 9 hours left or so I removed while I was on-thread so he wouldn't get drive-by-hammered. When I had to go (and he still hadn't shown up yet), I put back on. I never voted Macros, and never thought Stalker wasn't the best choice, contrary to what Bent says.

To bad. That would have made you surely innocent in my eyes since one of those two is scum.

Flip-flopping back and forth between two players would have made me look inno? What?

[Obdigore]

 D, on 08 March 2012 - 05:02 AM, said:

 Obdigore, on 08 March 2012 - 04:58 AM, said:

 D, on 08 March 2012 - 04:56 AM, said:

 Obdigore, on 08 March 2012 - 04:53 AM, said:

Macros- Ment, Dkt, K0rbas, Stalker, Obdi
Stalker- Bent, Macros, HD, JA, D'rek

If Stalker is scum, then all scum are on Maccys train. Ment is dead (but could have been symp I guess). That would make the scum between DKT, Korbas, Stalker, and Obdi.

If Stalker is a healer, then all scum are on Stalkers train. That would make the scum Bent, Maccy, JA, or D'rek. JA is dead but could have been symp.

D'rek, because I'm too lazy to read right now, DID you change trains between them at some point yesterday? Iirc someone claimed you did and you rebuffed that claim?

No, I did not. I was voting Stalker, and when he got to L-1 after JA voted with 9 hours left or so I removed while I was on-thread so he wouldn't get drive-by-hammered. When I had to go (and he still hadn't shown up yet), I put back on. I never voted Macros, and never thought Stalker wasn't the best choice, contrary to what Bent says.

To bad. That would have made you surely innocent in my eyes since one of those two is scum.

Flip-flopping back and forth between two players would have made me look inno? What?

One of them is scum and I'm assuming that all scum votes are on the OTHER train. If you had changed votes from one to the other, then yes, I would have put that down as 'confused inno' rather than 'cunning ploy to confuse the guy everyone thinks is a symp in the future, MUHAHAHAHAHAAH'.

[HoosierDaddy]

 Obdigore, on 08 March 2012 - 05:01 AM, said:

 H.D., on 08 March 2012 - 04:54 AM, said:

I will vote for everyone of you if it will get a lynch.

Though I'd prefer Stalker or Maccy because... how the fuck didn't one of them get lynched. Seriously.

So you have given up on the thread, and just say you will vote for anyone to get a lynch? I mean really. For the only PI we have you need to at least try to contribute.

Part of it speaks to how scummy everyone has played. Part of it speaks to not wanting to go out like a pussy. The third, and smallest part, is that I'd prefer Stalker.

I don't think scum was all on one train or the other, because they'd be fucked if we would have lynched one and he was a killer.

Part of me wants to believe Stalker's healer hints, but they all started day 2 if I read them correctly.

I've been putting Stalker and D'rek at the top since I vigged Venge.

Bent's vote is disappointing if he won't be back, but if he will then it's fine. I wouldn't decline voting for D'rek.

[Obdigore]

 H.D., on 08 March 2012 - 05:08 AM, said:

I don't think scum was all on one train or the other, because they'd be fucked if we would have lynched one and he was a killer.

Meh it is all WIFOM at the moment.

[HoosierDaddy]

 Obdigore, on 08 March 2012 - 05:14 AM, said:

 H.D., on 08 March 2012 - 05:08 AM, said:

I don't think scum was all on one train or the other, because they'd be fucked if we would have lynched one and he was a killer.

Meh it is all WIFOM at the moment.

Which is why I haven't really looked back to see which trains JA and Ment were on.

[D'rek]

 Obdigore, on 08 March 2012 - 05:14 AM, said:

 H.D., on 08 March 2012 - 05:08 AM, said:

I don't think scum was all on one train or the other, because they'd be fucked if we would have lynched one and he was a killer.

Meh it is all WIFOM at the moment.

If they'd gotten the lynch, not sure they'd have to care. We'd be at 7 right now, with 2 NKs still to come...

[D'rek]

Wait that makes no sense...

[D'rek]

Thing is, HD, if scum were on both trains, I can't see why whichever ones were on Macros wouldn't have switched to Stalker. They would have an easy excuse of not believing the reveal, and they'd be very motivated to do so by the reveal itself in case it was genuine.

[HoosierDaddy]

 D, on 08 March 2012 - 05:29 AM, said:

Thing is, HD, if scum were on both trains, I can't see why whichever ones were on Macros wouldn't have switched to Stalker. They would have an easy excuse of not believing the reveal, and they'd be very motivated to do so by the reveal itself in case it was genuine.

That would depend on the supposed players being around to switch. You could be right, but its moot anyways seeing as how we've yet to get even one scum.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 4. 6 hours and 28 minutes remaining

8 Players still alive: Bent, D'rek, Dktorode, H.D., K0rbas, Macros, Obdigore, Stalker

5 votes to lynch, 4 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for D'rek ( Bent )
2 Votes for Stalker ( Macros, Dktorode )

Players not voted: D'rek, H.D., K0rbas, Obdigore, Stalker

I need to head out again - lots of lectures this week. But I should be back at the very least one hour before deadline, maybe earlier.

[Obdigore]

 D, on 08 March 2012 - 05:29 AM, said:

Thing is, HD, if scum were on both trains, I can't see why whichever ones were on Macros wouldn't have switched to Stalker. They would have an easy excuse of not believing the reveal, and they'd be very motivated to do so by the reveal itself in case it was genuine.

This is what I'm thinking. I mean I came on and put a vote on Maccy with like 12 minutes left, JA read the thread numerous times (his activity kept being updated) during the time left, but he didn't switch. I really do think he was the symp and was NKed with them believing I was their symp.

I would very much like to string up Maccy or DK.

[Obdigore]

But then Bent just pinged my scumdar hard.

And he was on the Stalker train with Maccy and JA.

Give me a fucking vig.

[Obdigore]

Vote Macros

It is him or Bent for me today I think.

[D'rek]

 Obdigore, on 08 March 2012 - 05:48 AM, said:

But then Bent just pinged my scumdar hard.

And he was on the Stalker train with Maccy and JA.

Give me a fucking vig.

There being one person tying this together would be too easy...

I don't know. It's about 1am, I have to go to bed and will still be asleep when day times out. I can't see a way to tie together yesterday and today. Maybe a symp got the Macros train going but Bent is a killer and pushed a me case today so the symp wouldn't be outed deflecting from Stalker again? Feasible but unlikely and odd.

Between Maccy and Stalker, I still think Stalker looks scummier though. Cases against him go back to day 2, but Maccy seemed like an after-thought thrown in yesterday that suddenly became a train. So,

vote Stalker

I'm not totally convinced of anything anymore, but it's where I see the best odds and we can't not try and lynch a killer today as 2 NKs would be a game over in all but the BCSs, let alone the WCS.

[HoosierDaddy]

So... we're not lynching Stalker.

Edit: x-post w/ D'rek.

This post has been edited by H.D.: 08 March 2012 - 05:57 AM

[Obdigore]

Hooray stalker is now 3/5 votes.

If the killers come on and vote for him, assuming they are not already, we lose.

[HoosierDaddy]

He'll be 4 out of 5 before I go to bed.

We've played a shit game and deserve to lose. At least we can go down swinging like the monkeys we are.