[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 1. 5 hours and minutes remaining
16 Players still alive: anthras, barghast, eloth, fener, Galain, hood's path, kalse, korbas, mockra, olar ethil, osseric, rashan, ruse, silanah, sorrit, tennes

9 votes to lynch, 8 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for korbas ( ruse )
1 Vote for fener ( fener )
1 Vote for silanah ( sorrit )
1 Vote for ruse ( hood's path )
2 Votes for hood's path ( tennes, silanah )
1 Vote for Olar Ethil ( rashan )

Players not voted: anthras, barghast, eloth, Galain, kalse, korbas, mockra, olar ethil, osseric

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 07 February 2012 - 05:30 PM

[Mockra]

Ruse, on 07 February 2012 - 05:11 PM, said:

It was preemptive. Half a dozen people said they were happy voting me, and that I was the best lynch so far. I wanted to do this early so town would have enough time to find a different target. If I were to wait for momentum to grow, I'm willing to bet everyone would lynch me anyway. especially if it came down to the last minute.

so I did it now. Also, if we really do have a healer like someone said, please god heal me.

Ok, so if Ruse is a fake finder, now would be the time to counter reveal. Otherwise, I will follow his lead. I don't see very many options to winning this game otherwise (unless scum were really obvious with the signalling today and we had someone crack the code, which as many have said already is not very likely).

And, as one can see from my current position, I will not be voting for anyone today. I would be just as happy to let the day time out at the moment. I'm not above hearing out other options and analyses.

[Sorrit]

Mockra, on 07 February 2012 - 05:33 PM, said:

And, as one can see from my current position, I will not be voting for anyone today. I would be just as happy to let the day time out at the moment. I'm not above hearing out other options and analyses.

[Ruse]

I'm not a finder. Good lord, please don't reveal, finder, if you're out there.

[Mockra]

Ruse, on 07 February 2012 - 05:35 PM, said:

I'm not a finder. Good lord, please don't reveal, finder, if you're out there.

Ok, I'm confused. Why the fuck do you want a healer to save your ass then?

[Sorrit]

[Sorrit]

Mockra, on 07 February 2012 - 05:37 PM, said:

Ruse, on 07 February 2012 - 05:35 PM, said:

I'm not a finder. Good lord, please don't reveal, finder, if you're out there.

Ok, I'm confused. Why the fuck do you want a healer to save your ass then?

[Ruse]

Because I am (most likely) the most important role on the town side. I can't reveal anything noteworthy, for fear of modkill. I ran my reveal by PSer just to be sure.

I want a healer to heal me because Fener knows I'm not on his team. Which means I'm town. So if I revealed something, its true. Bad form to fake reveal as town without good reason. So he knows I'm roled, so he'll try to kill me.

I would like to not die.

[Mockra]

Ok, so now that I've gotten over the initial phase of confusion, let me clarify.
Why do you not think a finder reveal is a good thing?

Why did you reveal when there is pressure on you, but really not many votes to speak of?

If we are protecting you, what are your abilities (unless there is someway scum can counter them or protecting the knowledge can give us an edge, I see no reason for you to be mysterious)?

Damn you Ruse. I will have to come back later, probably after day 2 has started. I'll give a couple of more minutes before I pack up.

Fuck fuck.

[Fener]

Now that we are approaching the end of the day (5 hours max), does anyone wish to state any reasons for why I should not target them at night?

Look, my target would just be plain random this first night anyway, as I'm as much in the dark about your roles as you are, so there is no real reason why wouldn't listen to your pleadings for mercy. Tonight, one target really is as good as another, so why not help me reach a decision?

[Fener]

How often would you get such a chance from scum? Not an opportunity that should be passed by without any thought....

[Sorrit]

[Mockra]

Ok, so PS will not allow the reveal of abilities (CAN I HAVE ON-THREAD CONFIRMATION OF THAT PLEASE PS. I don't want this PM back and forth behind scenes ) even if you aren't quoting.

Another question for me to read the answer later: Can we guess at his abilities PS and get a yes or no from him? That way he is not saying anything directly.

[Mockra]

I really have to go now. Damn you Ruse.

[Sorrit]

Fener, on 07 February 2012 - 05:44 PM, said:

Now that we are approaching the end of the day (5 hours max), does anyone wish to state any reasons for why I should not target them at night?

Look, my target would just be plain random this first night anyway, as I'm as much in the dark about your roles as you are, so there is no real reason why wouldn't listen to your pleadings for mercy. Tonight, one target really is as good as another, so why not help me reach a decision?

[Fener]

Sorrit, on 07 February 2012 - 05:50 PM, said:

Fener, on 07 February 2012 - 05:44 PM, said:

Now that we are approaching the end of the day (5 hours max), does anyone wish to state any reasons for why I should not target them at night?

Look, my target would just be plain random this first night anyway, as I'm as much in the dark about your roles as you are, so there is no real reason why wouldn't listen to your pleadings for mercy. Tonight, one target really is as good as another, so why not help me reach a decision?

Interesting point! Do you think my shields, Sorrit, protect me from a suicide attempt? I wonder if it's worthy finding out....

[Ruse]

Mockra, on 07 February 2012 - 05:44 PM, said:

Ok, so now that I've gotten over the initial phase of confusion, let me clarify.
Why do you not think a finder reveal is a good thing?

I didn't want a finder to out themselves thinking they had me caught as a fake finder, when I'm not revealing as a finder. No one has gotten a find in yet, unless there are day-finds for some reason. So there is no reason to reveal at this point.

Why did you reveal when there is pressure on you, but really not many votes to speak of?

Because the vote was very clearly going to me. I was the only one with any legitimate pressure, and I wanted to give town time to consider other options. If I waited until the last second, there would be a good chance that I would be lynched anyway because there wasn't a chance to lynch anyone else.

If we are protecting you, what are your abilities (unless there is someway scum can counter them or protecting the knowledge can give us an edge, I see no reason for you to be mysterious)?

I am not allowed to tell you anything about my role. He reluctantly allowed me to post that I was a major asset to town. So no way am I allowed to tell you my abilities.

Damn you Ruse. I will have to come back later, probably after day 2 has started. I'll give a couple of more minutes before I pack up.

Fuck fuck.

Mockra, on 07 February 2012 - 05:47 PM, said:

Ok, so PS will not allow the reveal of abilities (CAN I HAVE ON-THREAD CONFIRMATION OF THAT PLEASE PS. I don't want this PM back and forth behind scenes ) even if you aren't quoting.

Another question for me to read the answer later: Can we guess at his abilities PS and get a yes or no from him? That way he is not saying anything directly.

PS will not confirm this, as that would confirm that I am town.

PS will not answer your question directly, I would assume. I can ask him, but it seems unlikely. Until confirmation of if I am allowed to say yes or no to a role, I will be unable to reply. He's very serious with the modkill.

[Kalse]

holy crap, a day 1 reveal?
ugh

[Sorrit]

Ruse, on 07 February 2012 - 05:40 PM, said:

Because I am (most likely) the most important role on the town side. I can't reveal anything noteworthy, for fear of modkill. I ran my reveal by PSer just to be sure.

I want a healer to heal me because Fener knows I'm not on his team. Which means I'm town. So if I revealed something, its true. Bad form to fake reveal as town without good reason. So he knows I'm roled, so he'll try to kill me.

I would like to not die.

[Rashan]

Mockra, on 07 February 2012 - 05:29 PM, said:

Rashan, on 07 February 2012 - 04:33 PM, said:

I realize not everyone here has created a game before, but there is a 100% chance that there is a healer in this game. Anyone who has said different has no understanding of game balance or is scum trying to undermine town.

Quick lunch break. So why, if there is a healer, are you voting OE? I don't see your instant connection and you seem absolutely positive he's scum. Seems like if you believed in your healer/finder plan you would stick to it rather than derailing with a random vote. Please explain.

Because a scum slip-up is worth voting on?

OE not getting what PS spoke about, even after a re-read looking for it, means he's not RI and ergo good chance he's scum.