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Posted 23 January 2012 - 03:34 AM

Leader Gusty even calls it. Thank goodness Vengy knows who his leader is.

Eloth, on 23 January 2012 - 03:25 AM, said:

I'm happy to be a leader role, but that means unless others join my call for RPing, I'm going to have to just play boring. :p

People won't to hesitate to get me this game if they alt me ...tehe...

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Posted 23 January 2012 - 03:46 AM

Been mulling over the start time of the game. I want to maximize the possibility of players being awake, so I'm going to start the game when it's Monday Morning in the US, so afternoon/evening in Europe. This makes it slightly less convenient for me, but that's fine. Silencer isn't playing, and I"m not aware of any Auzzies who might be inconvenienced, although I don't know where most of the noobs or noobish are from. So, game will start somewhere between 10-12pm Japan time, which would be 8-10am on the East Coast, USA.
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Posted 23 January 2012 - 12:19 PM

At the moment, everyone likes the Takeda clan for an ally except for the Uesugi (somewhat accurate, that). At the moment, that means that alliances will be decided down the line based on whoever Tapper chooses.
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Posted 23 January 2012 - 03:25 PM

First action submitted.

Merrid, on 23 January 2012 - 02:55 PM, said:

Defend Korlat!!!



And thoughts from a head-honcho.

Khell

Fener, on 23 January 2012 - 02:51 PM, said:

It seems important to me to build alliances as quickly as possible. with 20 players and presumably only 3 others of those on the same team as myself to begin with. It may even be wiser to keep faith with alliances, rather than plan to betray them at the first opprtunity.

I'm hoping that the more familiar name of my faction will prove an attraction for potential allies. However, I can see alliances ending as soon as a faction becomes weaker through loss of a member. The stronger factions will ally to pick off the weaker ones.

Thus it's crucially important that EVERY faction member avoid a lynch for as long as possible, in my opinion.

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Posted 23 January 2012 - 03:55 PM

Osseric, on 23 January 2012 - 03:37 PM, said:

Day Action - Defend Kessobahn

I'm hoping that I'm not wasting this action. D'reks Ro3Ks finale comes to mind where everyone and their dog was healing Mental except myself as I hoped and prayed that our PM was doing that instead.

My other concern is that I didn't get this action in too late. Ironman rules and all.



Second action submitted.
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Posted 23 January 2012 - 05:21 PM

First attack is by the General of the Takeda against the General of the Uesugi. No alliances have been finalized yet, and no one is protecting him so Tulas Shorn's day BP is gone.

Atrahal, on 23 January 2012 - 04:35 PM, said:

so, is it a bad thing if I think Tulas is one of the clan leaders who started using kanji to get his clan to signal him?

and, if i'm wrong, is it wrong that on Monday mornign I can't be bothered ti google translate everything written in non-latin characters on the board?


also, I think merrid=venge.



Atrahal, on 23 January 2012 - 04:42 PM, said:

this may go on forever.

attack Tulas shorn


I haven't had breakfast/tea yet, and i'm really not in the mood to find my mafia thread half unintelligible (no offence to the great tongue of Yamato intended, but I have to read stuff before class, and don't have time to tryt o translate every little bit)

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Posted 23 January 2012 - 05:25 PM

Vengy disagrees with Ment.

Tulas Shorn, on 23 January 2012 - 04:58 PM, said:

Honestly shin... In a feudal games set in Japan. It is a insult to not speak in Japanese at least part of the time.

I feel for Fener who I assume is KL. I realized that she was on the thread and cut back some of my more graphic dragon sex bits... Sorry KL.

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Posted 23 January 2012 - 05:27 PM

I will inform Vengy of his loss of BP. I will not make any scenes until more has happened however, just to obscure a little who has done what. (Attacker and Attackee don't get to know it was an Uesugi/Takeda clash for free.)
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Posted 23 January 2012 - 05:39 PM

Interesting move by SL. Comes to late to save Vengy's BP though. (Should make for an interesting scene, Takeda General attacks Uesugi General. Takeda Lieutenant then protects Uesugi General.)

Sheltatha Lore, on 23 January 2012 - 05:32 PM, said:

OK.

So, I still don't fully see the difference between an Open and a Secret action. I'll try it out on a guinea pig.

Tulas Shorn voted Atrahal, he's then most probably not with me.

Under the assumption that I can defend at least once per day and per night (i.e. these are not one-shot things)

Defend (Day) Tulas Shorn today

Yes, I'm defending someone I don't think is with me. It's only day 1, and I'm just testing things. If there's a twist in that role, I don't want to screw my leader.

Provisional for tonight: Defend (Night) Atrahal

Cause I don't see why not.

If my actions are one-shot, then ignore all I said.

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Posted 23 January 2012 - 05:48 PM

Day and night 1 protections provided by alliance

Fujiwari and Takeda are allied. Any aggressive actions taken against each other are cancelled.

Ashikaga and Uesugi are allied. Any aggressive actions taken against each other are cancelled.

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Posted 23 January 2012 - 10:28 PM

Actions while I was in bed.

Karatallid, on 23 January 2012 - 07:24 PM, said:

Attack Eloth

night action - attack Atrahal



Tulas Shorn, on 23 January 2012 - 08:03 PM, said:

stupid bitches... Attack Atrahal


Fener, on 23 January 2012 - 11:46 PM, said:

Provisional night action for night 1:

Recruit Atrahal - let's bring Ment onto team Khell :p

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Posted 23 January 2012 - 10:28 PM

Thoughts sent while I was in bed.

Atrahal, on 23 January 2012 - 07:21 PM, said:

so, Okaros is either JA or tapper or morgoth.



they are the only ones who have been around long enough to remember the asylum game.


Atrahal, on 23 January 2012 - 07:22 PM, said:

oh noes!

my leader is Khell!!!


Atrahal, on 23 January 2012 - 07:37 PM, said:

well either Khell or tapper.

ah well.


Galayn Lord, on 23 January 2012 - 06:13 PM, said:

Hmmm, I am intrigued.
The Uesugi turned me down (snobbish bastards, we'll soon trample you beneath the hooves of the kiba gundan!) or had already forged an alliance with the Ashikaga (in which case they are bootlicking spineless snobbish bastard, and we'll still trample them beneath the hooves of the kiba gundan).

A few questions: we now have 2 vs 2 blocks. What if the Miura approach me, will I accept or auto-refuse them (aka, is there a maximum amount of allies you can have)?

Second, and this is a question to ponder for myself, do I even want a secret ally?
Because if I do not, I will show confidence to the Fujiwara in our alliance, as well as keeping our clans strong and unassailable.
The downside is of course if the Fujiwara will go into a night alliance...

Hmm.


Galayn Lord, on 23 January 2012 - 07:23 PM, said:

Merrid = D'rek
Atrahal = Mentalist


Galayn Lord, on 23 January 2012 - 07:39 PM, said:

Osseric = JLV

To diminish my own mad skills, the tell in this case was not a character flaw, but a spelling one that I stumbled across by luck: he posted sexs here (#94) and in the 'messing with your groove' thread'.


Tulas Shorn, on 23 January 2012 - 08:38 PM, said:

I am surprised if I am only attacked by one person after that rant.

I will have you know that it was actually a lot more insulting. But in the nature of goodness and kindness that I am trying out for the new year. I removed a lot of the more insulting bits. :p


I am going to from now on assume that everyone who complains about having to use google translator is a. fucking moronic twit. b. Mental, see a.

Tulas Shorn, on 23 January 2012 - 08:46 PM, said:

it is so easy for these fucking twats to come on complain about me doing a little bit of RPing and then vote and leave. Well I am not lynched yet. If need by I will clog up day one. Remember how grief and mental used to post. Well I have 9 hours left in front of a computer. I think I could manage another 200 or so posts in the time that I have left. Should I?

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Posted 23 January 2012 - 10:43 PM

Fener, on 23 January 2012 - 10:06 PM, said:

So...Takeda did not want an alliance with me huh? Or they preferred to ally with Fujiwari.

For the moment, more importantly, Miura are the only ally-less faction. Does this make them perfect for a secret alliance, as they'll be desperate, or the worst decision for a secret alliance, as they present the most vulnerable target at the moment?



Osseric, on 23 January 2012 - 10:39 PM, said:

Galayn Lord is a tool. The last faction game that we played was the Ro3K game and people were symping left and right in that game. Stupid as it may be but it helped me pick out who I wanted to attack. I believe there will be some of that going on in this game as well. I still think that removing that vote so quickly after placing it is highly suspicious and the way he attacked me after I mentioned it makes me even more suspicious of him. Though most likely what he said is true and there was no signaling involved.

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Posted 24 January 2012 - 12:50 AM

If Khell sticks with his recruit attempt on Night two, he'll steal away the Takeda General. We'll see if he read his role PM carefully enough to realize a fail isn't necessarily a fail.
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Posted 24 January 2012 - 02:56 AM

Tulas Shorn, on 24 January 2012 - 01:14 AM, said:

I can't bloody believe that Eloth got on and posted a Hifukingku as his first post. If people could think they would connect the dots. Luckily I totally covered my ass with everything being in Japanese and then ranting all over the page. Hopefully I will avoid a day one lynch then get to kill someone at night.

Now that I think about it I believe that someone else had their first post as a hiku...hmmm..



Fener, on 24 January 2012 - 01:24 AM, said:

I'm curious, how many people think that I am Galayn Lord after he voted for Atrahal? :p


Tulas Shorn, on 24 January 2012 - 04:09 AM, said:

Merrid is GH... Oh I am so tempted to kill him tonight.... SOOOOOO tempted. After he called me out on the sign ups.... Hmmm....


Ha ha ha, no.

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Posted 24 January 2012 - 07:06 AM

Sheltatha Lore, on 24 January 2012 - 06:08 AM, said:

So you put Ment again as a faction leader? Are you insane?

Well, at least this time he's mine, I won't die trying to get him lynched :p


Interestingly, Shelly isn't the only one to think their General is their Leader.
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Posted 24 January 2012 - 12:48 PM

Action Submissions

Galayn Lord, on 24 January 2012 - 09:55 AM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 24 January 2012 - 09:23 AM, said:

For Night alliances, if desired, please submit in the form of a preference list once again.


I'm tempted to strengthen bonds with the Miura, however, for now:

no action submitted by me.

I will accept alliance however, from:

1. Miura
2. Uesugi
3. Ashikaga

in that order.


Galayn Lord, on 24 January 2012 - 10:00 AM, said:

also, at night:

Recruit Osseric.


If Osseric is lynched,

recruit Okaros.

People who have plenty of time to play due to sickness make good recruits.


Eloth, on 24 January 2012 - 10:39 AM, said:

Secret ally preference list: Takeda, Miura, Fujiwari



Eloth, on 24 January 2012 - 10:40 AM, said:

Tonight, recruit Karatallid.



Fener, on 24 January 2012 - 11:53 AM, said:

Provisional list of secret (night) alliances (night 1):

Miura
Fujiwari
Uesugi
Takeda

I will probably change this.



Okaros, on 24 January 2012 - 02:14 PM, said:

Right, if this is allowed as a provisional:

I wish to offer a secret alliance to whichever faction is allied to the faction of today's lynch.


Is my preferred list of secret allies if anyone approaches my humble clan. It's still mostly random since I have little to go on so early.


Usegi
Ashikaga
Fujiwara
Takeda

Whomever loses a member today (if not me) should be moved to the bottom of the list.

and just to be clear, I'll accept any offer, even if it's from nr 4.

edit: what the fuck?

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Posted 24 January 2012 - 01:57 PM

Not bad speculation by Tapper. He forgets how crazy I am though.

Galayn Lord, on 24 January 2012 - 10:05 AM, said:

Also, my guess at team Takeda:

1) Galayn Lord, fearless Lord
2) Omtose
3) Olar Ethil
4) ????


That 'signalling' case was too easy for my team to just jump on to and show they know me, assuming they know me... with recruitment being in the game, it makes sense that the recruitables do not know the recruiter, so perhaps only 1 knows me.

I hope for OE, because Omtose looks to be a bit of a low-poster type.


Galayn Lord, on 24 January 2012 - 01:47 PM, said:

Oh,

Eloth = Khell

most likely. I feel sorry for whomever it is if this whole posting thingie was part of their role... condemned to death by their own role plus the earlier weird-out attempt at RP through google translate.

If they are somehow a Jester, well-played by them and I'll be thrice as interested in the set-up as I already am.

Team speculation:

5 clans, 4 each.

1 Lord who has my abilities;
1 General or Rikogunshokan or whatever you might call them;
2 captains or Taisa or whatever you might call them.

Lord knows no-one, General knows lord, captains know general.

Captains can be recruited. Captain can be promoted to general if the general is dead.

Generals most likely have a blocking ability, I'd make them guards or maybe even killers, but I think the captains are the ones that can kill by building up wounds on other players. Or maybe you went with dibses' Seguleh game design, where the Third (General position) was the most powerful in the game.

That speculation can of course only be true if there are indeed equal sized clans, with mirrored abilities and no odd roles........ meaning Eloth is RPing in this scenario.

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Posted 24 January 2012 - 02:05 PM

Newb or not, the posts have been pretty good.

Olar Ethil, on 24 January 2012 - 01:51 PM, said:

Right, so I have pretty much spent this whole day trying to pretend I understand what is going on... And trying not to look like the newbie!

I don't understand what is going on with the Eloth stuff. It feels too obvious to me, like he is actively trying to get lynched. Some people have been very active, some not so much. Korvalain came on, made some suggestions but comitted to nothing, left with a promise to return and then didn't. Merrid made 5 posts in quick succession that said nothing at all. Too much emphasis on BS signalling cases is obscuring issues and stops people coming up with anything new.

So now I'm off to bed, having made my vote based probably on nothing. I'm trying to play a cautious game, not wanting to show all my cards at once. I was starting to get a little worried about Tulas Shorn, he was drawing a lot of attention to himself, but that seems to have stopped. So for now, provisional defence on Fener, because he is making some interesting points, and I feel like he is one of the ones who will push the game forward and bring more information to light.

Good game by the way! I'm really enjoying it :p

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Posted 24 January 2012 - 02:22 PM

And for the record, I've laughed out loud at stuff posted on at least 3 occasions. JA's braindead comment, Tapper's looking up historical samurai with lisps and I can't remember the third, I think it was something that D'rek said.

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