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SPOILERS 79.75: Nepeth Drought sand in the cracks.

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Posted 06 January 2012 - 02:30 AM

By the way guys, Tapper did an incredible job to keep this all together - I swear he was here whenever I logged in, at whatever hour :p And looking in PS' inbox, he must have answered about 1 query every 2 minutes from someone - perhaps a little too generous with his help, Path-Shaper is not known for such magnanimity ;)

Amazing job Taps!

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Posted 06 January 2012 - 02:41 AM

Finally, today's conversation between D'riss and Korvalain, showing how they were plotting to get their teammate Sukul lynched rather than Korv ;)

Also, note the ironical last line by Korvalain/Lyca :p

Korvalain, on 05 January 2012 - 08:13 PM, said:

My find cost as much as my battles, so I think I should rather go with a battle action than spend the last of my money on find.

Did you lost money because of that tax minister title or is someone of the others richer?


D, on 05 January 2012 - 08:56 PM, said:

No, my ability which attacks (or steals if the target is 5k+ richer) cost money, so I have enough for one more attack and a Link Forces. So I'll be broke tomorrow.

Smart about the money with find/battle. Who are you looking to target? Let's make sure we don't target the same person if it comes down to it, since we won't be able to talk. Unless something drastic happens and I die or lose retainers, you should be able to bring me in for another battle.


Korvalain, on 05 January 2012 - 09:46 PM, said:

I haven't read up yet, but I am thinking about Ano as my next target.


D, on 05 January 2012 - 09:48 PM, said:

I think that is a pretty good move, I'll do HP tonight and if you stick with Ano, I'll try to choose someone else. We may end up having to vote off Suku, because she has dug herself in a pretty deep hole. With you and I coordinating battles and then my link with Olar tomorrow, though, we might be able to still pull this off. What do you think? Should you or I vote for Suku if it falls that way? I intend to throw some suspicion on Galain and Omtose, but maybe vote Suku if we have to. Then I'll connect with OE instead tomorrow.


D, on 05 January 2012 - 09:54 PM, said:

Also you need to post! Stay calm, try to shift some suspicion onto Suku or Omtose maybe. Don't get lynched!


Korvalain, on 05 January 2012 - 10:13 PM, said:

D, on 05 January 2012 - 09:48 PM, said:

I think that is a pretty good move, I'll do HP tonight and if you stick with Ano, I'll try to choose someone else. We may end up having to vote off Suku, because she has dug herself in a pretty deep hole. With you and I coordinating battles and then my link with Olar tomorrow, though, we might be able to still pull this off. What do you think? Should you or I vote for Suku if it falls that way? I intend to throw some suspicion on Galain and Omtose, but maybe vote Suku if we have to. Then I'll connect with OE instead tomorrow.


I still haven't caught up. But I think you should connect with OE tomorrow and leave sukul be. I think OE could come up with some very reasonable post in our favor, while Sukul is to deep in it and I fear it could cause a change in his accusations. I also think one of us should vote for him early and so probably PI himself. It would be good to see Omtose voted out first, going for Sukul, but I fear that he as come up with to much nonsense and contradictions so far.


Korvalain, on 05 January 2012 - 10:14 PM, said:

D, on 05 January 2012 - 09:54 PM, said:

Also you need to post! Stay calm, try to shift some suspicion onto Suku or Omtose maybe. Don't get lynched!


Oh, is someone aiming at me? And I know I need to post. It is just RL that keeps getting in the way.


D, on 05 January 2012 - 10:19 PM, said:

Korvalain, on 05 January 2012 - 10:13 PM, said:

D, on 05 January 2012 - 09:48 PM, said:

I think that is a pretty good move, I'll do HP tonight and if you stick with Ano, I'll try to choose someone else. We may end up having to vote off Suku, because she has dug herself in a pretty deep hole. With you and I coordinating battles and then my link with Olar tomorrow, though, we might be able to still pull this off. What do you think? Should you or I vote for Suku if it falls that way? I intend to throw some suspicion on Galain and Omtose, but maybe vote Suku if we have to. Then I'll connect with OE instead tomorrow.


I still haven't caught up. But I think you should connect with OE tomorrow and leave sukul be. I think OE could come up with some very reasonable post in our favor, while Sukul is to deep in it and I fear it could cause a change in his accusations. I also think one of us should vote for him early and so probably PI himself. It would be good to see Omtose voted out first, going for Sukul, but I fear that he as come up with to much nonsense and contradictions so far.


Ok, I agree with this. I'll come up with an early vote since I've caught the least suspicion so far. And I'll connect with Olar tomorrow.

I know all about RL, no worries. :) But even one decent post where you calmly explain why you were gone, who you suspect, and then maybe lay a vote and leave? That would work wonders. If you get lynched our collaboration today is worthless.


Korvalain, on 05 January 2012 - 11:01 PM, said:

Sorry I was faster in voting Sukul, but seeing that I am at 3 votes already I don't think starting a new train would have been useful.


D, on 05 January 2012 - 11:04 PM, said:

Yeah, you did good, I think the train on you will derail if you just stick around and try to comment. if SA gets lynched, we can't do much about it, but Omtose is our next best bet I think.

To reiterate, I'll probably forge alliance with Olar now even if Suku survives, you target Ano for battle, I'll discuss with Suku. Even with 3 of us, tomorrow can be D-Day.


Korvalain, on 05 January 2012 - 11:40 PM, said:

A timeout would have been awesome. And that was really close.
Also I guess I need some decent luck to survive tomorrow.

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Posted 06 January 2012 - 04:39 AM

fun, albeit, confusing game

note to self: make sure to leave provisionals, so as not to raid dead people.

I'd like to see my legendary raider keep all the stuff he stole after the Nepeth won, though.
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Posted 06 January 2012 - 09:05 AM

View PostPath-Shaper, on 06 January 2012 - 12:34 AM, said:

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Ye gods, I had to sift through a lot of PMs to find D'riss battle action hidden somehwere, and then had to check D'rek's funds to see if she had enough to avoid his Challenge to Battle. She didn't, and thus, she died. Now I have to check who raids whom now and then do the stores, and it is past 01.00 am here.


D'riss had to fight two battles right? Did that make any difference?

none, he was strong enough for both - Galain had 0 CS and no Retainers, and HP had a caravan but no CS versus his 4 CS and 2 Retainers.


Boy, Khell, where's the love? :p I am surprised I didn't realize that the game would end if our actions went through. My whole role was basically military strength but I am glad I built a Retainer to use for communications and still use my Golden Infantry in battle. I think Lyca and I coordinated well, and although it was extremely lucky that she found SA, it's nice that once I connected with someone I could share everyone else's identities. I basically wanted to kill and survive and the Bazaar did not fit into my role at all, I thought. Not in a negative way, I mean, I just felt that I was one of those roles to which it was less important to buy/sell items materials rather than spend Dinari on abilities. I thought it was also cool that one lover had high military power and the other had Daring Attack, which made battle phases awesome.

Tapper, thank you, I thoroughly enjoyed myself and playing my role....When I survived in Spycraft it felt good and it was cool to do again. I also have to say, I love the scenes, from the writing to the game detail. But you broke my heart by mentioning every Nepeth by name except me. ;) I didn't get to post a lot due to traveling during the first two days, and while I regret that, I also was happy with how I played when I could. And I was reallllly trying to keep Lyca from getting lynched there at the end. :) If the game had lasted much longer I would have probably died, though.

Also, since the game ended in the batte phase, does it make sense to resolve dusk/night actions? I mean, that mean maybe assassinations after the game was over. Doesn't make a lot of sense. Personally, I think the raid phase came after the game was over and I should keep my water and Retainers. :) (And my role.)

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Posted 06 January 2012 - 09:05 AM

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Posted 06 January 2012 - 09:07 AM

View PostPath-Shaper, on 06 January 2012 - 12:03 AM, said:

Ye gods, I had to sift through a lot of PMs to find D'riss battle action hidden somehwere, and then had to check D'rek's funds to see if she had enough to avoid his Challenge to Battle. She didn't, and thus, she died. Now I have to check who raids whom now and then do the stores, and it is past 01.00 am here.


It was the last post of the first page of my role PM. ;) But I can't imagine what modding must have been like.

I'll post a couple of my PMs.

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Posted 06 January 2012 - 09:10 AM

D, on 03 January 2012 - 06:47 PM, said:

I haven't seen the thread at all, sorry Tap, I'm in the Rocky Mountains on vacation, leaving tomorrow. By Thursday I should be back on regular schedule...if I'm alive. ;)

Well, a role. I wonder if we four are the highest representation of our faction or if we are the primary weapons of one or two higher ups, due to our batte-phase strength. Also depends on how many other Nepeth there are....excepting the Qadi, our win conditions effectively make us scum, so we could be alone but all knowing each other is an advantage if we don't fuck it up on thread.


For my abilities, if I target someone with Link Forces, and someone else targets me with Link Forces, can we effectively have three-chain conversation going? Or is it limited to one per day + night cycle.

Provisional Dawn action:

Create a Slave Battalion.

Question - will that put me at max units due to my Leadership Requirements equaling my Command rating?

Question - what is the difference between the attack ability from the Title "General", and "A Challenge to Battle"? One is cheaper but could be avoided if the person has a lot of cash? So just risk/reward? Or am I not understanding?


D, on 03 January 2012 - 06:49 PM, said:

Question - what happens if someone who was lynched dies in the attack phase? Is there essentially just no lynch?


Path-Shaper, on 03 January 2012 - 07:05 PM, said:

D, on 03 January 2012 - 06:49 PM, said:

Question - what happens if someone who was lynched dies in the attack phase? Is there essentially just no lynch?


Yup. Also, say you get lynched, and you have a battle lined up, you can take one person with you to the grave if you win the battle.

Regarding Link Forces: yes (but once per day per player). But it may be safe to assume that most of your abilities are unique to you - usually, only titles are shared for effects.

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Create a Slave Battalion.

Question - will that put me at max units due to my Leadership Requirements equaling my Command rating?

yes again :p

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Question - what is the difference between the attack ability from the Title "General", and "A Challenge to Battle"? One is cheaper but could be avoided if the person has a lot of cash? So just risk/reward? Or am I not understanding?

Risk/reward and a way for you to perhaps farm cash, at the expense of not getting a kill.


D, on 03 January 2012 - 07:28 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 03 January 2012 - 07:05 PM, said:

Risk/reward and a way for you to perhaps farm cash, at the expense of not getting a kill.


Ah, so if they have more than 5k denari, I actually steal it from them?


Path-Shaper, on 03 January 2012 - 07:45 PM, said:

D, on 03 January 2012 - 07:28 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 03 January 2012 - 07:05 PM, said:

Risk/reward and a way for you to perhaps farm cash, at the expense of not getting a kill.


Ah, so if they have more than 5k denari, I actually steal it from them?



yup.



D, on 03 January 2012 - 08:52 PM, said:

So can you set a provisional that if someone is the target of a lynch, use my "Challenge to Battle" action on a different target instead?

Provisional:

Galain, battle - day 1, A Challenge to Battle.

Myself, dawn -day 2, create Slave Battalion.

I just want to see what happens. :)



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Posted 06 January 2012 - 09:12 AM

View PostD, on 06 January 2012 - 09:05 AM, said:

View PostPath-Shaper, on 06 January 2012 - 12:34 AM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 06 January 2012 - 12:26 AM, said:

View PostPath-Shaper, on 06 January 2012 - 12:03 AM, said:

Ye gods, I had to sift through a lot of PMs to find D'riss battle action hidden somehwere, and then had to check D'rek's funds to see if she had enough to avoid his Challenge to Battle. She didn't, and thus, she died. Now I have to check who raids whom now and then do the stores, and it is past 01.00 am here.


D'riss had to fight two battles right? Did that make any difference?

none, he was strong enough for both - Galain had 0 CS and no Retainers, and HP had a caravan but no CS versus his 4 CS and 2 Retainers.


Boy, Khell, where's the love? :p I am surprised I didn't realize that the game would end if our actions went through. My whole role was basically military strength but I am glad I built a Retainer to use for communications and still use my Golden Infantry in battle. I think Lyca and I coordinated well, and although it was extremely lucky that she found SA, it's nice that once I connected with someone I could share everyone else's identities. I basically wanted to kill and survive and the Bazaar did not fit into my role at all, I thought. Not in a negative way, I mean, I just felt that I was one of those roles to which it was less important to buy/sell items materials rather than spend Dinari on abilities. I thought it was also cool that one lover had high military power and the other had Daring Attack, which made battle phases awesome.

Tapper, thank you, I thoroughly enjoyed myself and playing my role....When I survived in Spycraft it felt good and it was cool to do again. I also have to say, I love the scenes, from the writing to the game detail. But you broke my heart by mentioning every Nepeth by name except me. ;) I didn't get to post a lot due to traveling during the first two days, and while I regret that, I also was happy with how I played when I could. And I was reallllly trying to keep Lyca from getting lynched there at the end. :) If the game had lasted much longer I would have probably died, though.

Also, since the game ended in the batte phase, does it make sense to resolve dusk/night actions? I mean, that mean maybe assassinations after the game was over. Doesn't make a lot of sense. Personally, I think the raid phase came after the game was over and I should keep my water and Retainers. :) (And my role.)

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Posted 06 January 2012 - 09:14 AM

View PostD, on 06 January 2012 - 09:05 AM, said:

View PostPath-Shaper, on 06 January 2012 - 12:34 AM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 06 January 2012 - 12:26 AM, said:

View PostPath-Shaper, on 06 January 2012 - 12:03 AM, said:

Ye gods, I had to sift through a lot of PMs to find D'riss battle action hidden somehwere, and then had to check D'rek's funds to see if she had enough to avoid his Challenge to Battle. She didn't, and thus, she died. Now I have to check who raids whom now and then do the stores, and it is past 01.00 am here.


D'riss had to fight two battles right? Did that make any difference?

none, he was strong enough for both - Galain had 0 CS and no Retainers, and HP had a caravan but no CS versus his 4 CS and 2 Retainers.


Boy, Khell, where's the love? :p I am surprised I didn't realize that the game would end if our actions went through. My whole role was basically military strength but I am glad I built a Retainer to use for communications and still use my Golden Infantry in battle. I think Lyca and I coordinated well, and although it was extremely lucky that she found SA, it's nice that once I connected with someone I could share everyone else's identities. I basically wanted to kill and survive and the Bazaar did not fit into my role at all, I thought. Not in a negative way, I mean, I just felt that I was one of those roles to which it was less important to buy/sell items materials rather than spend Dinari on abilities. I thought it was also cool that one lover had high military power and the other had Daring Attack, which made battle phases awesome.

Tapper, thank you, I thoroughly enjoyed myself and playing my role....When I survived in Spycraft it felt good and it was cool to do again. I also have to say, I love the scenes, from the writing to the game detail. But you broke my heart by mentioning every Nepeth by name except me. ;) I didn't get to post a lot due to traveling during the first two days, and while I regret that, I also was happy with how I played when I could. And I was reallllly trying to keep Lyca from getting lynched there at the end. :) If the game had lasted much longer I would have probably died, though.

Also, since the game ended in the batte phase, does it make sense to resolve dusk/night actions? I mean, that mean maybe assassinations after the game was over. Doesn't make a lot of sense. Personally, I think the raid phase came after the game was over and I should keep my water and Retainers. :) (And my role.)

The game is certainly over before you'd have to destroy retainers :D
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Posted 06 January 2012 - 09:19 AM

D, on 04 January 2012 - 06:34 AM, said:

Does creating something from the Workshop count as a dawn action? Or can I create the Retainer and then target it to use Link Forces. If so, [Korvalain, dawn - day 2 - Link Forces], provisionally.

And actually change provisional battle action to:

[Eloth, battle - day 1, A Challenge to Battle]

He's talked about the Bazaar a couple times so I'm wondering if he isn't a merchant of some kind.

Question - what if two players attach the player during the same phase? Does he fight both, or one, and which one is chosen for the battle and why?

If your action is prevented by a Heal, that would still spend your Denari for the action. If you were guarded, though, you don't pay the ability cost, right?


D, on 04 January 2012 - 07:00 AM, said:

Also, if I attack someone during dusk, and someone attacks me, how does the chain resolve? Is it in order of submission and they resolve successively or does the first attack on player 2 prevent hm from attacking player 3?

Sorry for my terrible writing, I'm not so sober.


D, on 04 January 2012 - 07:03 AM, said:

Also, amending the previous amendment, if Eloth is lynched use the ability on Kaschak instead. I promise in advance to be overly formal with my action submissions if you take these :)


Path-Shaper, on 04 January 2012 - 08:25 AM, said:

D, on 04 January 2012 - 06:34 AM, said:

Does creating something from the Workshop count as a dawn action? Or can I create the Retainer and then target it to use Link Forces. If so, [Korvalain, dawn - day 2 - Link Forces], provisionally.

And actually change provisional battle action to:

[Eloth, battle - day 1, A Challenge to Battle]

He's talked about the Bazaar a couple times so I'm wondering if he isn't a merchant of some kind.

Question - what if two players attach the player during the same phase? Does he fight both, or one, and which one is chosen for the battle and why?

If your action is prevented by a Heal, that would still spend your Denari for the action. If you were guarded, though, you don't pay the ability cost, right?



If two attack the same player, the one who submitted first fights first. If the attacked player then is still alive, he fights a seperate battle against the next player to attack him.

Heal still costs you money - Retainers are also not protected by the Heal. If you are guarded, you cannot take actions but you still pay the cost - you are not warned that you are guarded, and the guard may be guarded, too.

If you are warned that you are guarded, then you can withdraw your battle provisional.


Path-Shaper, on 04 January 2012 - 07:30 PM, said:

I assume you still want to use Link Forces?


D, on 04 January 2012 - 10:45 PM, said:

I did, thank you. ;)


Path-Shaper, on 05 January 2012 - 12:10 AM, said:

D, on 04 January 2012 - 11:58 PM, said:

Question - can Nepeth be recruited? Even though we are being hunted like scum in this game im guessing all our abilities are offensive and probably not recruit abilities.

Also, will I know a general is no longer Nepeth if I communicate with him? I noticed in your PM with me and Korea you gave our titles bit no faction.

So, did I just spill the beans to a team member who might have been recruited? :p



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D, on 05 January 2012 - 05:54 AM, said:

Thanks Vengy. :)


I think P-S just deleted the topics so I can't quote anymore. But this game was awesome. I was totally slacking at work all through the last hour, tensely waiting on the vote, wondering if Korv would return, trying to post without my boss and a couple other guys around me. Great fun, thanks all.


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Posted 06 January 2012 - 09:22 AM

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Ye gods, I had to sift through a lot of PMs to find D'riss battle action hidden somehwere, and then had to check D'rek's funds to see if she had enough to avoid his Challenge to Battle. She didn't, and thus, she died. Now I have to check who raids whom now and then do the stores, and it is past 01.00 am here.


D'riss had to fight two battles right? Did that make any difference?

none, he was strong enough for both - Galain had 0 CS and no Retainers, and HP had a caravan but no CS versus his 4 CS and 2 Retainers.


Boy, Khell, where's the love? :p I am surprised I didn't realize that the game would end if our actions went through. My whole role was basically military strength but I am glad I built a Retainer to use for communications and still use my Golden Infantry in battle. I think Lyca and I coordinated well, and although it was extremely lucky that she found SA, it's nice that once I connected with someone I could share everyone else's identities. I basically wanted to kill and survive and the Bazaar did not fit into my role at all, I thought. Not in a negative way, I mean, I just felt that I was one of those roles to which it was less important to buy/sell items materials rather than spend Dinari on abilities. I thought it was also cool that one lover had high military power and the other had Daring Attack, which made battle phases awesome.

Tapper, thank you, I thoroughly enjoyed myself and playing my role....When I survived in Spycraft it felt good and it was cool to do again. I also have to say, I love the scenes, from the writing to the game detail. But you broke my heart by mentioning every Nepeth by name except me. ;) I didn't get to post a lot due to traveling during the first two days, and while I regret that, I also was happy with how I played when I could. And I was reallllly trying to keep Lyca from getting lynched there at the end. :) If the game had lasted much longer I would have probably died, though.

Also, since the game ended in the batte phase, does it make sense to resolve dusk/night actions? I mean, that mean maybe assassinations after the game was over. Doesn't make a lot of sense. Personally, I think the raid phase came after the game was over and I should keep my water and Retainers. :) (And my role.)

The game is certainly over before you'd have to destroy retainers :D


Woooooo. :p That was gonna hurt.

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Posted 06 January 2012 - 12:03 PM

View PostD, on 06 January 2012 - 09:05 AM, said:

View PostPath-Shaper, on 06 January 2012 - 12:34 AM, said:

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View PostPath-Shaper, on 06 January 2012 - 12:03 AM, said:

Ye gods, I had to sift through a lot of PMs to find D'riss battle action hidden somehwere, and then had to check D'rek's funds to see if she had enough to avoid his Challenge to Battle. She didn't, and thus, she died. Now I have to check who raids whom now and then do the stores, and it is past 01.00 am here.


D'riss had to fight two battles right? Did that make any difference?

none, he was strong enough for both - Galain had 0 CS and no Retainers, and HP had a caravan but no CS versus his 4 CS and 2 Retainers.


Boy, Khell, where's the love? :p I am surprised I didn't realize that the game would end if our actions went through. My whole role was basically military strength but I am glad I built a Retainer to use for communications and still use my Golden Infantry in battle. I think Lyca and I coordinated well, and although it was extremely lucky that she found SA, it's nice that once I connected with someone I could share everyone else's identities. I basically wanted to kill and survive and the Bazaar did not fit into my role at all, I thought. Not in a negative way, I mean, I just felt that I was one of those roles to which it was less important to buy/sell items materials rather than spend Dinari on abilities. I thought it was also cool that one lover had high military power and the other had Daring Attack, which made battle phases awesome.

Tapper, thank you, I thoroughly enjoyed myself and playing my role....When I survived in Spycraft it felt good and it was cool to do again. I also have to say, I love the scenes, from the writing to the game detail. But you broke my heart by mentioning every Nepeth by name except me. ;) I didn't get to post a lot due to traveling during the first two days, and while I regret that, I also was happy with how I played when I could. And I was reallllly trying to keep Lyca from getting lynched there at the end. :) If the game had lasted much longer I would have probably died, though.

Also, since the game ended in the batte phase, does it make sense to resolve dusk/night actions? I mean, that mean maybe assassinations after the game was over. Doesn't make a lot of sense. Personally, I think the raid phase came after the game was over and I should keep my water and Retainers. :) (And my role.)


If you had abstained from voting we would have had no lynch, 4 alive Nepeth and two dead non Nepeth leaving it 4 vs 4 anyway. My charcetr would ahve survived then. However, you made the right choice in killing me over Korvalian. My final post stated that there is no way they can suspect Korvalian after my performance. I also did not have a scooby doo who was on my team. I thought HP must have been because she seemed to make the train slide away from me and was agreeable too often. It was hard for me to get a read on who was who, you and Korv knew each other and OE and Me. Lio knew his two buddies too so me accusing Ano didn't go down too well there. Although I was very anxious all game. I was panicking in the middle of the night at one point. I dreamed about this game and couldn't stay away from it in work!!
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Posted 06 January 2012 - 12:09 PM

Wow I went to bed yesterday believing we had at least another day to play. I didn't realised that battle is resolved before the lynch.

That was an awesome game, Tapper.
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Posted 06 January 2012 - 12:47 PM

Before I read over this, I just want to say that was a great game.

Tapper, I loved the setup & mechanics & I'm sure next chapter will be great, go ahead and sign me up now!

Everybody, that was well played & fun. Good game

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Posted 06 January 2012 - 02:09 PM

View PostH.D., on 05 January 2012 - 02:28 AM, said:

I don't make lists.
















I make guarantees.

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View PostD, on 06 January 2012 - 01:18 AM, said:

Great big fun game, Tapper! I can't wait for 0.66 and 1.00!

I too heartily endorse the idea of things being not quite so bloodthirsty at first - maybe all the roles should start with such resources as they don't have the resources to fulfill their potential (generals can't battle, thieves can't steal, khan can't raid, merchants can't do economicy things, etc) and it takes a day or two to start getting yourself into that potential-fulfilling state? Idle thoughts, I'm sure whatever changes you make will be even better!



I agree. Something needs to be done so a mini with 14 players isn't over before night 2. That is swift even for vengys standards.
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Posted 06 January 2012 - 03:32 PM

View PostJLV, on 06 January 2012 - 01:23 AM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 05 January 2012 - 11:02 PM, said:

Tapper, I think you're spot on about many of them not seeing the full capabilities of their roles - and how to play the market. I think the main issue is that they've all been so concerned to also try and keep their heads down and not raise too much attention. You've created cool characters for each one of them that they've all fallen in love with and don't want to see destroyed (heck, I can even say the same about my lame-ass nobody!), so they're unwilling to try something more daring - or, rather, think beyond the confines of their standard abilities, used one at a time.


I started like this, but I used my role as much as possible (I think?) and went after the market with a vengeance.

And look. I ended up dead. I spent my cash, I tried to make deals, but no one was using the bazaar. I didn't even have a chance to own a retainer.



I'm still confused by the whole retainer and leadership issue too. Especially in the role PM where is say command instead of leadership. That really threw me off. Is it possible to have more retainers than you have leadership? That was why I was thinking owning a retainer was pointless. I figured that generals would have more leadership than everyone else so therefore would have more retainers.

I was hoping to live long enough to get my human shield going but that didn't happen either. Damn Qadi.
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Posted 06 January 2012 - 05:29 PM

View PostTattersail, on 06 January 2012 - 12:03 PM, said:

View PostD, on 06 January 2012 - 09:05 AM, said:

View PostPath-Shaper, on 06 January 2012 - 12:34 AM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 06 January 2012 - 12:26 AM, said:

View PostPath-Shaper, on 06 January 2012 - 12:03 AM, said:

Ye gods, I had to sift through a lot of PMs to find D'riss battle action hidden somehwere, and then had to check D'rek's funds to see if she had enough to avoid his Challenge to Battle. She didn't, and thus, she died. Now I have to check who raids whom now and then do the stores, and it is past 01.00 am here.


D'riss had to fight two battles right? Did that make any difference?

none, he was strong enough for both - Galain had 0 CS and no Retainers, and HP had a caravan but no CS versus his 4 CS and 2 Retainers.


Boy, Khell, where's the love? :p I am surprised I didn't realize that the game would end if our actions went through. My whole role was basically military strength but I am glad I built a Retainer to use for communications and still use my Golden Infantry in battle. I think Lyca and I coordinated well, and although it was extremely lucky that she found SA, it's nice that once I connected with someone I could share everyone else's identities. I basically wanted to kill and survive and the Bazaar did not fit into my role at all, I thought. Not in a negative way, I mean, I just felt that I was one of those roles to which it was less important to buy/sell items materials rather than spend Dinari on abilities. I thought it was also cool that one lover had high military power and the other had Daring Attack, which made battle phases awesome.

Tapper, thank you, I thoroughly enjoyed myself and playing my role....When I survived in Spycraft it felt good and it was cool to do again. I also have to say, I love the scenes, from the writing to the game detail. But you broke my heart by mentioning every Nepeth by name except me. ;) I didn't get to post a lot due to traveling during the first two days, and while I regret that, I also was happy with how I played when I could. And I was reallllly trying to keep Lyca from getting lynched there at the end. :) If the game had lasted much longer I would have probably died, though.

Also, since the game ended in the batte phase, does it make sense to resolve dusk/night actions? I mean, that mean maybe assassinations after the game was over. Doesn't make a lot of sense. Personally, I think the raid phase came after the game was over and I should keep my water and Retainers. :) (And my role.)


If you had abstained from voting we would have had no lynch, 4 alive Nepeth and two dead non Nepeth leaving it 4 vs 4 anyway. My charcetr would ahve survived then. However, you made the right choice in killing me over Korvalian. My final post stated that there is no way they can suspect Korvalian after my performance. I also did not have a scooby doo who was on my team. I thought HP must have been because she seemed to make the train slide away from me and was agreeable too often. It was hard for me to get a read on who was who, you and Korv knew each other and OE and Me. Lio knew his two buddies too so me accusing Ano didn't go down too well there. Although I was very anxious all game. I was panicking in the middle of the night at one point. I dreamed about this game and couldn't stay away from it in work!!


eh, i'm not so sure about Korv staying off the radar. I was raiding him that night, and we would've known from the scene that Kahetis raided a Nepeth, so I would've let everyone know that.

tbh, I think all actions should resolve simultaneously, not a big fan of the extra dusk phase. that's just me though.
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View PostJump Around, on 23 October 2011 - 11:04 AM, said:

And I want to state that Ment has out-weaseled me by far in this game.
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Posted 07 January 2012 - 03:25 PM

Out of rep again - Just a couple thoughts & opinions, no criticism


Starting penniless was tough, Even by the 3rd day I would have been unable to make a caravan without selling enough goods to buy a slave. That still would have left me totally defenseless for 2 more days without selling goods to buy Mercenaries or levies. For some reason, the market moved very slowly and it seemed impossible to move any product.

But I loved that mechanic anyway. It would be cool if we could barter directly, or at least change our prices occasionally, but I know that would make more hassle for Tapper. The insider trading would have become a factor soon, i think.

Contracts, very cool. Raiding the water to kill someone, I never thought of that, but I wasn't a raider so I wasn't approaching the game that way.

The battle was an interesting concept, but I didn't get involved with that obviously. It seems that Nepeth was super powered out of the gate and intended to be in trouble on Day 3, if resources were used too quickly, right? So a less aggressive approach would probably have us with another day to turn the tide. I will say the Nepeth Team did great.

The off-thread comms made life hard for the outsiders. How would it be if each faction had its own off-thread comms, at least a way to send messages if not a conversation? 50% of the game in 2 voting blocs by Day 2 would have controlled the dynamic.
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