[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 4, 36 hours are left in the day.

11 players alive: Anomandaris, Atrahal, Emurlahn, Galain, Gamelon, Hood's Path, Meanas, Mockra, Omtose, Spite, Tennes,

6 votes to lynch

No one has voted.



GAME TIMER HAS STARTED

[Tennes]

Seriously atrahal?...green?....GREEN?

[Anomandaris]

Emurlahn, on 29 November 2011 - 04:29 PM, said:

Why are people acting like they didn't expect Kesso to be scum? Then why the fuck did you vote for him? That's scummy talking. There was a point when kesso vs thyr was pretty close. I suppose that excludes thyr

Emurlahn, on 01 December 2011 - 03:40 AM, said:

Interesting that Rashan was inno.

Anyone have thoughts after the deaths?

I'm gonna go crazy tomorrow re-reading the thread. No distractions this time.

Also, was HP accused of symping Ruse? I can't remember and can't look currently. The showing up slightly late thing seemed weird, ESPECIALLY throwing the vote on Ruse instead of Thyr, the more obvious choice for a last second panic vote. Agreed?

Emurlahn, on 02 December 2011 - 03:23 PM, said:

Osseric? Can't read the scene right now, but really? That pisses me off. With the way he was defending Mockra I thought I had a potential partner.

You have some very strange reactions to the cf's of innos. I dont recall you voting for rashan or osseric. I think you did vote mockra though, or was that someone else?

Emurlahn, on 04 December 2011 - 08:28 PM, said:

The atrahal noncase was a fun read, he had really slipped my radar for some reason. Nothing left to comment on really, Atrahal covered it.

As to the scenes, I didn't really see anything from them that could be explained into anything major. It mostly seemed like Masamoto was recieving messages.

Thats a fairly dismissive response to a case and a rebuttal. Unless you knew atrahal was innocent his response should not be treated as gospel. The fact my main suspect has made a case against the next most suspicious isnt lost to me. I still think galain is scum but emurlahn just jumped way up the list.

[Atrahal]

Tennes, on 05 December 2011 - 08:08 AM, said:

Seriously atrahal?...green?....GREEN?

Yeah, green. Why is that distressing you? Are you color blind?

Wow, it looks like a really quiet morning here. Is anyone around?

[Atrahal]

So I agree Anom. Emur originally seemed to be a fairly helpful person, especially when in direct comparison to Spite on Day 1 (Spite said he would be back today right?). But now, I dunno. Emur is all over the place. I was reading through his posts and he's angry, excited, bored, playful, etc. Crazy mood swings doesn't mean scum, but he is acting really weird and his lack of interest in Galain and my posts is kind of strange.

And I understand life is busy, but I'm not all that satisfied with Meanas' posts. I know I'm being pushy, esp. after a weekend, but I haven't heard from HP either.

Sorry, I am going to stop. I don't want to inundate the thread after a weekend, but where is everyone? I've got to go to work, so see you all hopefully later, right?

[Emurlahn]

Anomandaris, on 05 December 2011 - 08:44 AM, said:

Emurlahn, on 29 November 2011 - 04:29 PM, said:

Why are people acting like they didn't expect Kesso to be scum? Then why the fuck did you vote for him? That's scummy talking. There was a point when kesso vs thyr was pretty close. I suppose that excludes thyr

Emurlahn, on 01 December 2011 - 03:40 AM, said:

Interesting that Rashan was inno.

Anyone have thoughts after the deaths?

I'm gonna go crazy tomorrow re-reading the thread. No distractions this time.

Also, was HP accused of symping Ruse? I can't remember and can't look currently. The showing up slightly late thing seemed weird, ESPECIALLY throwing the vote on Ruse instead of Thyr, the more obvious choice for a last second panic vote. Agreed?

Emurlahn, on 02 December 2011 - 03:23 PM, said:

Osseric? Can't read the scene right now, but really? That pisses me off. With the way he was defending Mockra I thought I had a potential partner.

You have some very strange reactions to the cf's of innos. I dont recall you voting for rashan or osseric. I think you did vote mockra though, or was that someone else?

Emurlahn, on 04 December 2011 - 08:28 PM, said:

The atrahal noncase was a fun read, he had really slipped my radar for some reason. Nothing left to comment on really, Atrahal covered it.

As to the scenes, I didn't really see anything from them that could be explained into anything major. It mostly seemed like Masamoto was recieving messages.

Thats a fairly dismissive response to a case and a rebuttal. Unless you knew atrahal was innocent his response should not be treated as gospel. The fact my main suspect has made a case against the next most suspicious isnt lost to me. I still think galain is scum but emurlahn just jumped way up the list.

Did anyone actually read Galain's post? It wasn't a case, he was just looking at Atrahal's post. It wasn't a dismissive statement, I was being genuine about it being helpful. I'm pretty sure Atrahal mostly posts during the 6 hours I'm asleep, so I don't have as much of a read on him as other players. But that post helped. HP, also, but he doesn't really post at all.

[Anomandaris]

I am as always busy in work, but this afternoon I am in hospital.

vote galain

Still highly suspicious of you and the ruse lynch did nothing to disuade me. Hadnt noticed a connection between emurlahn and galain, but will look through again if i get time to see if I can see what you mean.

[Anomandaris]

Cross post : So you are saying galain was making a case for atrahals innocence then? And that isnt supposed to look suspicious when people have been accusing him of symping atrahal, thyr and others?

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 4, 26 hours and 51 minutes are left in the day.

11 players alive: Anomandaris, Atrahal, Emurlahn, Galain, Gamelon, Hood's Path, Meanas, Mockra, Omtose, Spite, Tennes,

6 votes to lynch

1 Vote Galain: Anomandaris

Players not voting: Atrahal, Emurlahn, Galain, Gamelon, Hood's Path, Meanas, Mockra, Omtose, Spite, Tennes,

[Emurlahn]

Also, my comments on the CFs are normal. I wasn't shocked by most of the lynch CFs, but Osseric and Rashan had jumped up my scum list recently before they were killed, so both the NKs and the CFs surprised me.

Atrahal, on 05 December 2011 - 10:41 AM, said:

Tennes, on 05 December 2011 - 08:08 AM, said:

Seriously atrahal?...green?....GREEN?

Yeah, green. Why is that distressing you? Are you color blind?

Wow, it looks like a really quiet morning here. Is anyone around?

That shade of green is exceedingly hard for people with eye strain to read, from what I understand.

Atrahal, on 05 December 2011 - 11:03 AM, said:

So I agree Anom. Emur originally seemed to be a fairly helpful person, especially when in direct comparison to Spite on Day 1 (Spite said he would be back today right?). But now, I dunno. Emur is all over the place. I was reading through his posts and he's angry, excited, bored, playful, etc. Crazy mood swings doesn't mean scum, but he is acting really weird and his lack of interest in Galain and my posts is kind of strange.

And I understand life is busy, but I'm not all that satisfied with Meanas' posts. I know I'm being pushy, esp. after a weekend, but I haven't heard from HP either.

Sorry, I am going to stop. I don't want to inundate the thread after a weekend, but where is everyone? I've got to go to work, so see you all hopefully later, right?

Excited = Excited to play mafia.
Bored = Day1/day2 blues. My first 2 days sucked, I had nothing.
Playful = me, always
angry = because I HAVE been angry about this game, so I probably do come across angrier than I need to.

It's hard not to be suspicious of Galain. The NK's seem to be somewhat focused on the higher posting players (Rashan, Osseric) of which Galain is one.

I feel like Meanas is coasting. And what happened to HP?

Everyone is gone most likely because the weekend break is based in Japan, which for me at least, is directly before my bed time.. so 6ish (8?) hours later, here I am.

Anomandaris, on 05 December 2011 - 12:12 PM, said:

Cross post : So you are saying galain was making a case for atrahals innocence then? And that isnt supposed to look suspicious when people have been accusing him of symping atrahal, thyr and others?

He wasn't making a case for atrahal's innocence. He was supposed to examine others' posts as well, but he never did. As you can see here.

Galain, on 04 December 2011 - 01:38 AM, said:

OK, that took longer than I expected (wasted quite a bit of time going through all the posts on the thread containing the word 'Atrahal'). Don't have time to do another one tonight, but I'll try and do a few more tomorrow night.

What I'm dissapointed in is that he never did this for other people. His post on Atrahal didn't make Atrahal seem more scummy at all. So maybe you two read it differently and that's why I'm confused.

[Emurlahn]

Path-Shaper, on 05 December 2011 - 12:14 PM, said:

It is Day 4, 26 hours and 51 minutes are left in the day.

11 players alive: Anomandaris, Atrahal, Emurlahn, Galain, Gamelon, Hood's Path, Meanas, Mockra, Omtose, Spite, Tennes,

6 votes to lynch

1 Vote Galain: Anomandaris

Players not voting: Atrahal, Emurlahn, Galain, Gamelon, Hood's Path, Meanas, Mockra, Omtose, Spite, Tennes,

Looking at the players alive.. if we lynch wrong today, and there is a succesful NK, we'll be down to 9. That puts the vote at 5. WCS, tomorrow is D-day. I'm only doing this so town is a chance, I was not looking forward to a reveal.

I am Ashikaga Masamoto, the newly appointed overseer of the East (kanto kubo). I have been given access to all the informants in my shogun's Eastern network.

I am a Finder.

First of all, no I don't have a code in any of my posts. Codes are dumb. There is no reason to believe them, but if a killer spots it you're as good as dead. I'm revealing a day before D-day just in case you find it neccesary to lynch me today, you'll still have a chance tomorrow. I beg of you, though, don't lynch me today. That would be a waste, seeing as I'll be NKed tonight after this reveal.

Here are my finds:

Day 1: I provisionally found Anomandaris: This never changed, and it was based on gut. He came back INNO, or, "Loyal to the shogunate".

Day 2: I provisionally found Thyr. Later I added to find Mockra, if Thyr was lynched. Thyr was lynched. Mockra came back SCUM, or, "anti-shogunate element plotting against your [my] authority.

Day 3: I provisionally found Ruse. When I saw that Ruse was likely to be lynched, I added to find Osseric if Ruse was lynched. Ruse was lynched. Osseric was NKed, so day 3 was a wasted find.

So, Mockra came back scum. As you noticed, my case on Mockra was shite. Unfortunately, that fucker is playing so well even WITH the knowledge that he is scum, I couldn't make an adequate case on him. I went ahead and made the case to see if you would lynch him on a shitty case, as the habit has been lately. Unfortunately, again, ya'll are playing better than I am, so that failed.

My reason for revealing should be pretty obvious. Tomorrow is potentially D-day, and I need to give town a chance. If you look back at when I accused Mockra, a surprising amount of people didn't even comment on Mockra, if I remember correctly. That should be somewhat telling.

I found Mockra based on my gut. It turned out right. Tennes and HP both always seem to be playing scummy. Originally I thought HP seemed like a symp, but with the way he's disapeared, he could be a killer laying extremely low. Or he could be a busy as fuck innocent. Tennes' posts just seem scummy, I don't know if it's justified. Galain could potentially be a symp, especially with the way he's been active in pushing lynches. No other symp seems apparent, really, but my game hasn't been particularly good so far, unfortunately.

Whew. That was tough to do.

[Galain]

Oooh, big reveal! My first instinct was to be a little suspicious given that you've been sitting on a scum find on Night 2, but then I realised that actually that's only one day of play time, which makes it more plausible. I'm going to go back and take a look at your behaviour from the past few days and see if it is consistent with your claims. Given that a reasonable chunk of the evidence that Ruse was lynched for was that Ano might have been symping her, I'd have expected you to be less receptive to the Ruse lynch...will go back and see if that's true.

[Emurlahn]

I wasn't particularly receptive. I obviously disagreed with the symping part, but Ruse's play was also scummy seeming. I was about 50/50 with him, but toward the end of the day I got less and less of a feeling that he was the right lynch. Wasn't that the day I posted my Mockra case? No one followed, so town needed a lynch, so I switched.

[Galain]

Here's a quote from Emurlahn on Day 2 that would seem to back up his stance on Anomandaris:

Emurlahn, on 30 November 2011 - 06:26 PM, said:

That being said, I don't count out Ruse or Anomandaris. They both are (somewhat) low posters, but they seem like they're trying. I get stronger vibes from Tennes, but he makes good posts, so I hesitate to lynch him yet. Of course, that's a perfect place for scum to hide. My head!

This would fit with his claimed Day 1 find. However, note the suspicion of Tennes.

Here's another quote with a similar theme.

Emurlahn, on 30 November 2011 - 09:51 PM, said:

Thyrllan, on 30 November 2011 - 09:41 PM, said:

Galain, on 30 November 2011 - 09:29 PM, said:

Osseric, on 30 November 2011 - 09:11 PM, said:

Having said that, just so people know where my current suspicions lie:

Vote Anomandaris

Next best choice for me is Ruse, then Mockra and Thyrllan.

I've taken a look at your Anomandaris case, Osseric. I'm not quite sure I see your point though. The post you quoted feels like it does contain a valid reason to me. One thing that does feel weird about Ano is that he makes no effort to generate any in the time he was here for. He does a little speculation about scum blocs, but doesn't give any indication as to who he thinks is vote-worthy.

I'm a little miffed at Ruse, who took my call for more content and gave...absolutely nothing. Rereading what I said in my summary, I might have been giving them too much leeway because of their lowposter status. I can kind of see Omtose's point that of the set of votes, Ruse's is the most suspicious.

that's an amusing xpost edit: wait no its not I dont get it I think I thought osseric was Ano. I am not the sense


As for whom do I suspect? Well I already said my bit about Tennes. Re-read his posts, and there's not much to say about him. His larger posts he really rambles about finding HP to be so awful but never goes so far as to say anyone might be scum or, heaven forbid, vote for someone who doesn't have a 5-person train already.

I'm going to drop my Tennes vote now, might as well get the options out there on the board.

vote Tennes

at the same time, Rashan is a big up-and-comer on my scumdar. I wouldn't say he's likely to be the Hojo chieftain, but he's been vigorous enough pushing cases in a single-mindedness that doesn't match up with his getting as much content about other cases in as he can. What I mean is that he looks like he's talking about everything equally as a good little townie should, but at the same time he only really puts any push towards one particular case at a time because he wants to keep the real focus there.

Goddammit get out of my head. I agree with EVERYTHING you just said.

I think that's a quite fine alternative. Now if someone could do some digging? I won't have time to re-read until later tonight, which will be after the deadline.

Does Tennes have a lot of possible connections? I love that, if they do CF scum.

So Emurlahn was very suspicious of Tennes on Day 2. I would have expected him to have done a find to prove/deny his suspicions. I wonder why he chose Mockra instead?

Here's another quote that backs up his stance on Ano:

Emurlahn, on 01 December 2011 - 10:20 PM, said:

I don't really get a terribly scummy feeling from Ano, personally. That's why I haven't really put my thoughts out there.

I'm not going to bother reposting the case on Mockra, because it would take this post into TL;DR territory. But suffice to say that looking through Emurlahn's body of posts on Day 3 he is consistently pushing Mockra as scum. Given all that, the reveal looks pretty convincing to me. My only question mark is the reasoning behind the Mockra find in the first place - I'd like to know why he was chosen over Tennes.

Willing to give Emurlahn the benefit of the doubt for the time being.

Vote Mockra

[Emurlahn]

I had a gut feeling for both Tennes and Mockra. I chose Mockra because multiple people metioned Tennes, so I figured someone would do a case on him and I wouldn't need to find. Unfortunately, that never happened.

Vote Mockra

Think I forgot to do that.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 4, 25 hours and 2 minutes are left in the day.

11 players alive: Anomandaris, Atrahal, Emurlahn, Galain, Gamelon, Hood's Path, Meanas, Mockra, Omtose, Spite, Tennes,

6 votes to lynch

1 Vote Galain: Anomandaris
2 Votes Mockra: Galain, Emurlahn

Players not voting: Atrahal, Gamelon, Hood's Path, Meanas, Mockra, Omtose, Spite, Tennes,

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 05 December 2011 - 02:04 PM

[Tennes]

finder reveal.... nice.

easy way to test his claim.
Vote Mockra

lets hope there is a healer around then hey.

[Tennes]

more than welcom to do a find on me tonight...would be a waste though.

[Anomandaris]

remove vote
vote mockra

just back from doctors to see a reveal, didnt realise i was so scummy looking day 1 but good catch on mockra if cf is scum can i recommend galain or atrahal next?

edited to put in line breaks (why does that keep happening on this fucxking thing?)

This post has been edited by Anomandaris: 05 December 2011 - 03:21 PM

[Spite]

Alright. As promised I will try and be more active this week. I have a boat load of catching up to do. Plus my work schedule isn't making things any easier on me.