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"Goats of Glory"'s place in the Malazan world from Tor.com Q&A session

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Posted 11 July 2011 - 07:54 PM

My question for SE:

SMZ said:

I know the anthology editor, Lou Anders, is quoted as saying "not a Malazan story, but a good one". However, it appears to actually be set in the Malazan world, with the reference to "Aren steel" and the scent of spice accompanying a shapeshift; not to mention certain astronomical conditions that place it post-TtH.

Just wondering if you could confirm the story's placement in Malazan "canon" (as it were), and whether this story takes place somewhere we've heard about but never seen, or perhaps someplace entirely new to us. Or maybe it was just a completely-unrelated one-off that on a whim you decided to give some Malazan "flavor"?

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The Man Himself said:

'Goats of Glory' is set just south of Shal Morzinn on the same landmass at Seven Cities, and hints at a conflict with The Three. In one respect it's part of the Malazan canon, but in another, it isn't, since should I write more about that crew there probably won't be any cross-over.

So. There you have it. Gotta say, I'd love to see more of these guys.

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Posted 11 July 2011 - 08:05 PM

This concludes my argument for moving GoG out of the "non-Malazan" forum.
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Posted 11 July 2011 - 08:59 PM

I tend to agree that confirmation moves this into Malaz territory (aside: YAY!), but the rest of the anthology remains utterly separate works by other authors.
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Posted 11 July 2011 - 09:34 PM

Very nice! Wonder if Jheran Concord's or The Birthing Wars has been referenced in the novels somehow?

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Posted 11 July 2011 - 10:20 PM

View PostPig Iron, on 11 July 2011 - 09:34 PM, said:

Very nice! Wonder if Jheran Concord's or The Birthing Wars has been referenced in the novels somehow?

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Not directly, I don't think.

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I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 12 July 2011 - 01:40 AM

View PostAbyss, on 11 July 2011 - 08:59 PM, said:

but the rest of the anthology remains utterly separate works by other authors.

Why would anyone think it was?
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Posted 17 January 2012 - 04:22 PM

Skint and co. are the remnents of an Army or Company who identify themselves as 'Rams'

anyone else thinking of the Perish Grey Helms etc
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Posted 05 September 2012 - 07:00 PM

Finally read this. Another connection to the rest of the Malaz world:

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“No coins?”
“Been years since I last seen one a those.”
“What did it look like?”
“Oblong, not like yours at all. And they was copper.”
“What was stamped on ’em?” asked the short, bearded man who’d sidled up between the woman and
Slim. “Whose face, I mean? Or faces—three faces? Castle in the sky? Something like that, maybe?”
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Three faces - currency of Shal-Morzinn, depicting The Three?

Castle in the sky - currency of some people living in a Skykeep like Moon's Spawn? A reference to a Skykeep, anyway.

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I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 05 January 2013 - 11:18 PM

Ordered the book for $4 on Amazon! great deal if anyone else wants to pick it up on Amazon.ca
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