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#3041 User is offline   Emurlahn 

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Posted 20 October 2011 - 03:55 PM

in addition, if Tennes and Barg knew that they only had 2 yesterday,their play makes no sense.

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Posted 20 October 2011 - 03:56 PM

View PostEmurlahn, on 20 October 2011 - 03:52 PM, said:

View PostOkaros, on 20 October 2011 - 03:49 PM, said:

View PostEmurlahn, on 20 October 2011 - 03:44 PM, said:

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View PostEmurlahn, on 20 October 2011 - 03:38 PM, said:

oh, and the way the last few days have been floating, I'm pretty sure that Okaros is the last yan, not Shelly.

Okaros has been erratic, and coming on at the time when his posts largely follow yan interests.

Shelly has had problems with the idea of deals even back when the Kingdoms were still on top.


Shelly must be the barb. Okaros must be Yan.


Why are you hung up on a secret Yan? Shelly and I are barbs. The insistence on a secret yan is making you sound desperate indeed.

edit: added two words for clarity



if you are both barbs, tell me your role names. you should have no reason to hide them, and they'll convince Karosis to just vote off the remainning kingdom peope.


Sorry, should have given them in the last post. Not really sure what the role names would give you anyways. You know Ma Chao is among the two of them ;). Well here they are regardless: Ma Chao and Ma Dai



err, no. I meant who is warlord and who is the oother one


Oh I can see why you'd like to know that. I'd rather wait and see what Shelly has to say. It is of little importance right now anyway.

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Posted 20 October 2011 - 03:56 PM

View PostOkaros, on 20 October 2011 - 03:54 PM, said:

View PostEmurlahn, on 20 October 2011 - 03:49 PM, said:

if you are both barbs, that puts the initial teams at:

xia:6
Lu:6
WR:2
MC:3
Yan: 7+SY

wchich does not make sense, becasue not only do the yan only have 6 votes, due to Khell having 2 alts, they are also wekened once SY goes off on his own


As far as I know this is accurate, unless of course the white riders actually started with 3 rather than 2. But they claim they did not, and why would they lie?


how could they have started with 3 if here was no WR CF?

;)

unless Tennes is secretly a barb and there is no Yan emperor

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Posted 20 October 2011 - 03:57 PM

View PostOkaros, on 20 October 2011 - 03:56 PM, said:

View PostEmurlahn, on 20 October 2011 - 03:52 PM, said:

View PostOkaros, on 20 October 2011 - 03:49 PM, said:

View PostEmurlahn, on 20 October 2011 - 03:44 PM, said:

View PostOkaros, on 20 October 2011 - 03:41 PM, said:

View PostEmurlahn, on 20 October 2011 - 03:38 PM, said:

oh, and the way the last few days have been floating, I'm pretty sure that Okaros is the last yan, not Shelly.

Okaros has been erratic, and coming on at the time when his posts largely follow yan interests.

Shelly has had problems with the idea of deals even back when the Kingdoms were still on top.


Shelly must be the barb. Okaros must be Yan.


Why are you hung up on a secret Yan? Shelly and I are barbs. The insistence on a secret yan is making you sound desperate indeed.

edit: added two words for clarity



if you are both barbs, tell me your role names. you should have no reason to hide them, and they'll convince Karosis to just vote off the remainning kingdom peope.


Sorry, should have given them in the last post. Not really sure what the role names would give you anyways. You know Ma Chao is among the two of them ;). Well here they are regardless: Ma Chao and Ma Dai



err, no. I meant who is warlord and who is the oother one


Oh I can see why you'd like to know that. I'd rather wait and see what Shelly has to say. It is of little importance right now anyway.


in that, you are wrong.

it is of crucial importance to me.

because I don't believe you. And I want others to see why.

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Posted 20 October 2011 - 04:00 PM

should I somehow survive this game, I will institute a deth penalty for participating in duels throughtout the kingdom.

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Posted 20 October 2011 - 04:08 PM

View PostEmurlahn, on 20 October 2011 - 03:57 PM, said:

View PostOkaros, on 20 October 2011 - 03:56 PM, said:

View PostEmurlahn, on 20 October 2011 - 03:52 PM, said:

View PostOkaros, on 20 October 2011 - 03:49 PM, said:

View PostEmurlahn, on 20 October 2011 - 03:44 PM, said:

View PostOkaros, on 20 October 2011 - 03:41 PM, said:

View PostEmurlahn, on 20 October 2011 - 03:38 PM, said:

oh, and the way the last few days have been floating, I'm pretty sure that Okaros is the last yan, not Shelly.

Okaros has been erratic, and coming on at the time when his posts largely follow yan interests.

Shelly has had problems with the idea of deals even back when the Kingdoms were still on top.


Shelly must be the barb. Okaros must be Yan.


Why are you hung up on a secret Yan? Shelly and I are barbs. The insistence on a secret yan is making you sound desperate indeed.

edit: added two words for clarity



if you are both barbs, tell me your role names. you should have no reason to hide them, and they'll convince Karosis to just vote off the remainning kingdom peope.


Sorry, should have given them in the last post. Not really sure what the role names would give you anyways. You know Ma Chao is among the two of them ;). Well here they are regardless: Ma Chao and Ma Dai



err, no. I meant who is warlord and who is the oother one


Oh I can see why you'd like to know that. I'd rather wait and see what Shelly has to say. It is of little importance right now anyway.


in that, you are wrong.

it is of crucial importance to me.

because I don't believe you. And I want others to see why.


Is it not enough to know that we are the last two of our barb faction, and that one of us is a Warlord? It is a thin line of defense keeping our exact roles to ourselves, seeing as it probably wouldn't be hard to figure out which of us is Chao. You are scrambling Emur. It is somewhat reminiscent of day 1.

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Posted 20 October 2011 - 04:08 PM

i dont know what to believe.
how do they both know they are barbs for sure?
What role do they have!!

I mean are there two warlords or two Champions?
And how is that balanced?

they say they dont have off thread comms?...Is the comms supposed to make up for an extra killer to begin with? did they all get each others names to begin with?

seems mighty unbalanced.


Okaros...Seltatha....how do you know the other is a barbar?


could it be that the "assassin" has somehow convinced the last barbar that he is one too?
behind the scenes action of some sorts?


this is weird

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Posted 20 October 2011 - 04:14 PM

View PostKarosis, on 20 October 2011 - 04:08 PM, said:

i dont know what to believe.
how do they both know they are barbs for sure?
What role do they have!!

I mean are there two warlords or two Champions?
And how is that balanced?

they say they dont have off thread comms?...Is the comms supposed to make up for an extra killer to begin with? did they all get each others names to begin with?

seems mighty unbalanced.


Okaros...Seltatha....how do you know the other is a barbar?


could it be that the "assassin" has somehow convinced the last barbar that he is one too?
behind the scenes action of some sorts?


this is weird


I can confirm that Sheltatha is a barb (I wonder why that is Emur?), probably just as you Karosis can confirm Korlat is a barbar. . Our barb faction started with a warlord and two champs.

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Posted 20 October 2011 - 04:15 PM

View PostKarosis, on 20 October 2011 - 04:08 PM, said:

i dont know what to believe.
how do they both know they are barbs for sure?
What role do they have!!

I mean are there two warlords or two Champions?
And how is that balanced?

they say they dont have off thread comms?...Is the comms supposed to make up for an extra killer to begin with? did they all get each others names to begin with?

seems mighty unbalanced.


Okaros...Seltatha....how do you know the other is a barbar?


could it be that the "assassin" has somehow convinced the last barbar that he is one too?
behind the scenes action of some sorts?


this is weird


ok

the scenario they are presenting is:
MC started with 3 barbs. 1 warlord and 2 champs. no off thread comms.

so, they are saying that D'rek put up a 6-person Kingdom faction with a lover as its secret role (lu) against a 3-man barb faction with 2 kills

and on the other side, the 2-person WR faction has to deal with a 6-man faction with an assasin as its power role.

do excuse me if I call bullshit.


much more likely scenario:
there is only 1 ma Chao left. the last yan is a lover, or had Tennes blood-link them to MC. they are putting on this show to get rid of xia right now. because without WR, they are a sad minority. to distrupt that, and ensure their immidiate survival, they'll spin any BS imaginable.

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Posted 20 October 2011 - 04:21 PM

I have work all day today. Just popping in. I made a slight tactical error.. and wasn't entirely honest yesterday. I have no healing catapults... I have no idea what a blood link is or how to establish one...my only ability ever was a one time move of my entire faction and the ability to illuminate. I thought Shelatha was a secret role of the Yan, but turns out I was wrong. Costly mistake for Xia...rofl. Oh well. serves Emur right for getting in bed with the barbarians. I'll try to check back in like 6 hrs depending on how work goes.

toodles.

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Posted 20 October 2011 - 04:23 PM

lovely

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Posted 20 October 2011 - 04:29 PM

View PostOkaros, on 20 October 2011 - 04:14 PM, said:

View PostKarosis, on 20 October 2011 - 04:08 PM, said:

i dont know what to believe.
how do they both know they are barbs for sure?
What role do they have!!

I mean are there two warlords or two Champions?
And how is that balanced?

they say they dont have off thread comms?...Is the comms supposed to make up for an extra killer to begin with? did they all get each others names to begin with?

seems mighty unbalanced.


Okaros...Seltatha....how do you know the other is a barbar?


could it be that the "assassin" has somehow convinced the last barbar that he is one too?
behind the scenes action of some sorts?


this is weird


I can confirm that Sheltatha is a barb (I wonder why that is Emur?), probably just as you Karosis can confirm Korlat is a barbar. . Our barb faction started with a warlord and two champs.




so you have comms with your warlord?

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Posted 20 October 2011 - 04:31 PM

I also like how Tennes doesn't seem at all worried about his survival

tell you what: the barbs lynch Tennes today, and i'm convinced that there are no yan around and i'm screwed, i'll accept my own death with quiet dignity.

besides, you MC lot will need to get over to luo yang for the endgame anyhow. Since you admit that you still have a champ, this game won't end till you guys duel, leaving one barb faction to win the whole thing.

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Posted 20 October 2011 - 04:34 PM

View PostKarosis, on 20 October 2011 - 04:29 PM, said:

View PostOkaros, on 20 October 2011 - 04:14 PM, said:

View PostKarosis, on 20 October 2011 - 04:08 PM, said:

i dont know what to believe.
how do they both know they are barbs for sure?
What role do they have!!

I mean are there two warlords or two Champions?
And how is that balanced?

they say they dont have off thread comms?...Is the comms supposed to make up for an extra killer to begin with? did they all get each others names to begin with?

seems mighty unbalanced.


Okaros...Seltatha....how do you know the other is a barbar?


could it be that the "assassin" has somehow convinced the last barbar that he is one too?
behind the scenes action of some sorts?


this is weird


I can confirm that Sheltatha is a barb (I wonder why that is Emur?), probably just as you Karosis can confirm Korlat is a barbar. . Our barb faction started with a warlord and two champs.




so you have comms with your warlord?


if he says yes, he'll be contradicting himself. just saying.

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Posted 20 October 2011 - 04:40 PM

Karosis, if they are both barbs, get them to vote tennes today. it shouldn't matter which one us goes first, the kingdoms can't win if there's 4 of you like they say.

if one of them is BS ing though, they'll try to keep tennes alive.

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Posted 20 October 2011 - 04:40 PM

whats this blood link?


i dont really trust tennes and his little revelation here.

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Posted 20 October 2011 - 04:41 PM

View PostEmurlahn, on 20 October 2011 - 04:40 PM, said:

Karosis, if they are both barbs, get them to vote tennes today. it shouldn't matter which one us goes first, the kingdoms can't win if there's 4 of you like they say.

if one of them is BS ing though, they'll try to keep tennes alive.


this is what i was thinking.

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Posted 20 October 2011 - 04:43 PM

View PostKarosis, on 20 October 2011 - 04:40 PM, said:

whats this blood link?


i dont really trust tennes and his little revelation here.



blood link is an emperor power. if we guessed 2 of our players, we could give them off-thread comms. it's a 1 shot, and we can't link them with the emperor or the PM of our faction.


Bargy claimed that JA linked him and thyr lke that.

I'm not sure i trust that, b/c thyr was the lover role, and those tend to be able to make off-thread comms themselves.

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Posted 20 October 2011 - 04:46 PM

View PostKarosis, on 20 October 2011 - 04:41 PM, said:

View PostEmurlahn, on 20 October 2011 - 04:40 PM, said:

Karosis, if they are both barbs, get them to vote tennes today. it shouldn't matter which one us goes first, the kingdoms can't win if there's 4 of you like they say.

if one of them is BS ing though, they'll try to keep tennes alive.


this is what i was thinking.



good to hear.
i'll wait for them to reply.

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Posted 20 October 2011 - 04:55 PM

View PostKarosis, on 20 October 2011 - 04:29 PM, said:

View PostOkaros, on 20 October 2011 - 04:14 PM, said:

View PostKarosis, on 20 October 2011 - 04:08 PM, said:

i dont know what to believe.
how do they both know they are barbs for sure?
What role do they have!!

I mean are there two warlords or two Champions?
And how is that balanced?

they say they dont have off thread comms?...Is the comms supposed to make up for an extra killer to begin with? did they all get each others names to begin with?

seems mighty unbalanced.


Okaros...Seltatha....how do you know the other is a barbar?


could it be that the "assassin" has somehow convinced the last barbar that he is one too?
behind the scenes action of some sorts?


this is weird


I can confirm that Sheltatha is a barb (I wonder why that is Emur?), probably just as you Karosis can confirm Korlat is a barbar. . Our barb faction started with a warlord and two champs.




so you have comms with your warlord?


No. Our factions probably work in similar fashion, so i doubt either of us have off thread comm.

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