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#1581 User is offline   Hood's Path 

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Posted 12 October 2011 - 09:30 PM

I've got to think about this for a while. Something just doesn't make sense.

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Posted 12 October 2011 - 09:31 PM

View PostHood, on 12 October 2011 - 09:22 PM, said:

View PostOmtose, on 12 October 2011 - 09:00 PM, said:

View PostHood, on 12 October 2011 - 08:32 PM, said:

View PostOmtose, on 12 October 2011 - 05:38 AM, said:

View PostEmurlahn, on 12 October 2011 - 04:56 AM, said:

View PostOmtose, on 12 October 2011 - 04:21 AM, said:

Back who wants to talk



I do
any reason you prefer Karosis over say, Kaschan?


There are several reasons why I perfer Karosis over kaschan. 1. Karosis has started to make statements where he down plays the warlord threats. That smacks of someone who has that role and hasn't been able to do much with it so far (see him talking about how the warlord isn't as powerful as an emperor and so shouldn't be considered as much of a threat as a emperor) which is bullshit. The warlords are just as big of a threat as the emperors to each emperor. On a slightly different tangent but so that you can see how I have been thinking.

The Yan are the only group that doesn't have a warlord threat. They also won their game. So to balance out the other emperors, Drek inserted the usuper as the Han's (internal) threat. While making the warlords the Xia and Lu internal threats. Now I have been quietly figuring out who is moving around the area that I am in. I have a pretty good idea that Karosis isn't right. The other one that I am not sure about is Hood's Path. But I am a lot more not sure about Karosis.



Okay. Reading back this post stands out to me. Now I have been quietly figuring out who is moving around the area that I am in. What the hell does he mean by quietly figuring out? This sounds like an action to me. Though I should vote for him because he could have just as easily inserted my name in for Karosis's if for nothing else. But as I would like to make the right descion for my team I will hold off and give he a chance to explain. If I don't hear from him then I'll go all medival on his rear end for nearly strawmanning me instead.


Oh I am not strawmaning you at all. I tried to do a find on you last night and it was blocked by the white rider karosis. So what do you have to say now. That I am fully of shit well fuck that it is my ass on the line and I am not. I made one find on the white rider then I was blocked by him when I tried to do a find on you. So explain why that would happen boyyy


What?! Wait a minute

remove vote

I've blocked actions before and have been blocked. They didn't tell me who I blocked or who blocked me. This is crap.


No that is what I got. I have been blocked most nights. This was last night and it was the first time that happened to me as well. Which makes me what to do a find on you even more. I assumed that you were his champion and that Karosis was either guarding me or doing a find on me. I don't know how the warlords powers work.

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Posted 12 October 2011 - 09:32 PM

View PostSilanah, on 12 October 2011 - 09:03 PM, said:

View PostOmtose, on 12 October 2011 - 09:00 PM, said:

View PostHood, on 12 October 2011 - 08:32 PM, said:

View PostOmtose, on 12 October 2011 - 05:38 AM, said:

View PostEmurlahn, on 12 October 2011 - 04:56 AM, said:

View PostOmtose, on 12 October 2011 - 04:21 AM, said:

Back who wants to talk



I do
any reason you prefer Karosis over say, Kaschan?


There are several reasons why I perfer Karosis over kaschan. 1. Karosis has started to make statements where he down plays the warlord threats. That smacks of someone who has that role and hasn't been able to do much with it so far (see him talking about how the warlord isn't as powerful as an emperor and so shouldn't be considered as much of a threat as a emperor) which is bullshit. The warlords are just as big of a threat as the emperors to each emperor. On a slightly different tangent but so that you can see how I have been thinking.

The Yan are the only group that doesn't have a warlord threat. They also won their game. So to balance out the other emperors, Drek inserted the usuper as the Han's (internal) threat. While making the warlords the Xia and Lu internal threats. Now I have been quietly figuring out who is moving around the area that I am in. I have a pretty good idea that Karosis isn't right. The other one that I am not sure about is Hood's Path. But I am a lot more not sure about Karosis.



Okay. Reading back this post stands out to me. Now I have been quietly figuring out who is moving around the area that I am in. What the hell does he mean by quietly figuring out? This sounds like an action to me. Though I should vote for him because he could have just as easily inserted my name in for Karosis's if for nothing else. But as I would like to make the right descion for my team I will hold off and give he a chance to explain. If I don't hear from him then I'll go all medival on his rear end for nearly strawmanning me instead.


Oh I am not strawmaning you at all. I tried to do a find on you last night and it was blocked by the white rider karosis. So what do you have to say now. That I am fully of shit well fuck that it is my ass on the line and I am not. I made one find on the white rider then I was blocked by him when I tried to do a find on you. So explain why that would happen boyyy


I'm confused. You're saying that the white rider blocked your find? So he guarded you? Or are you implying that he found you as well, thus negating the effect?


Shit I don't know all I know is that I got you have been blocked by the white rider and that I was trying to do a find on HP.

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Posted 12 October 2011 - 09:33 PM

View PostTennes, on 12 October 2011 - 08:58 PM, said:

Well, I am off for a while. won't be back before lynch.

remove vote

vote Omtose.

with all the support/deflection that Karosis received...I still think he is a high ranking player.


He is a high ranking player he is the white frigging rider.

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Posted 12 October 2011 - 09:34 PM

I am kind of around for a while so ask questions and I will try to answer them.

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Posted 12 October 2011 - 09:36 PM

View PostOmtose, on 12 October 2011 - 09:34 PM, said:

I am kind of around for a while so ask questions and I will try to answer them.


Spell it out night by night

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Posted 12 October 2011 - 09:39 PM

View PostAtrahal, on 12 October 2011 - 09:36 PM, said:

View PostOmtose, on 12 October 2011 - 09:34 PM, said:

I am kind of around for a while so ask questions and I will try to answer them.


Spell it out night by night


Yeah this may actually help a lot.

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Posted 12 October 2011 - 09:44 PM

View PostAtrahal, on 12 October 2011 - 09:36 PM, said:

View PostOmtose, on 12 October 2011 - 09:34 PM, said:

I am kind of around for a while so ask questions and I will try to answer them.


Spell it out night by night


What spell out who I have tried to do finds on each night and what the results were or just the last two nights?I don't think you want me to reveal all of my finds ATRAHAL.

This post has been edited by Omtose: 12 October 2011 - 09:45 PM


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Posted 12 October 2011 - 09:48 PM

View PostOmtose, on 12 October 2011 - 09:31 PM, said:

View PostHood, on 12 October 2011 - 09:22 PM, said:

View PostOmtose, on 12 October 2011 - 09:00 PM, said:

View PostHood, on 12 October 2011 - 08:32 PM, said:

View PostOmtose, on 12 October 2011 - 05:38 AM, said:

View PostEmurlahn, on 12 October 2011 - 04:56 AM, said:

View PostOmtose, on 12 October 2011 - 04:21 AM, said:

Back who wants to talk



I do
any reason you prefer Karosis over say, Kaschan?


There are several reasons why I perfer Karosis over kaschan. 1. Karosis has started to make statements where he down plays the warlord threats. That smacks of someone who has that role and hasn't been able to do much with it so far (see him talking about how the warlord isn't as powerful as an emperor and so shouldn't be considered as much of a threat as a emperor) which is bullshit. The warlords are just as big of a threat as the emperors to each emperor. On a slightly different tangent but so that you can see how I have been thinking.

The Yan are the only group that doesn't have a warlord threat. They also won their game. So to balance out the other emperors, Drek inserted the usuper as the Han's (internal) threat. While making the warlords the Xia and Lu internal threats. Now I have been quietly figuring out who is moving around the area that I am in. I have a pretty good idea that Karosis isn't right. The other one that I am not sure about is Hood's Path. But I am a lot more not sure about Karosis.



Okay. Reading back this post stands out to me. Now I have been quietly figuring out who is moving around the area that I am in. What the hell does he mean by quietly figuring out? This sounds like an action to me. Though I should vote for him because he could have just as easily inserted my name in for Karosis's if for nothing else. But as I would like to make the right descion for my team I will hold off and give he a chance to explain. If I don't hear from him then I'll go all medival on his rear end for nearly strawmanning me instead.


Oh I am not strawmaning you at all. I tried to do a find on you last night and it was blocked by the white rider karosis. So what do you have to say now. That I am fully of shit well fuck that it is my ass on the line and I am not. I made one find on the white rider then I was blocked by him when I tried to do a find on you. So explain why that would happen boyyy


What?! Wait a minute

remove vote

I've blocked actions before and have been blocked. They didn't tell me who I blocked or who blocked me. This is crap.


No that is what I got. I have been blocked most nights. This was last night and it was the first time that happened to me as well. Which makes me what to do a find on you even more. I assumed that you were his champion and that Karosis was either guarding me or doing a find on me. I don't know how the warlords powers work.


You are still trying to throw me under the bus. If what you are saying is true and Karosis is a member of the GongSun Zan's white riders then there is no possible way that he could do a block for me as we are not part of the same faction. You can only do blocks for players of your same faction.

Easy descion

vote Omtose

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Posted 12 October 2011 - 09:49 PM

Hahaha

This is Mafia gold, right here

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Posted 12 October 2011 - 09:50 PM

And to think I was going to vote Karosis and save this tool.

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Posted 12 October 2011 - 09:51 PM

View PostHood, on 12 October 2011 - 09:48 PM, said:

View PostOmtose, on 12 October 2011 - 09:31 PM, said:

View PostHood, on 12 October 2011 - 09:22 PM, said:

View PostOmtose, on 12 October 2011 - 09:00 PM, said:

View PostHood, on 12 October 2011 - 08:32 PM, said:

View PostOmtose, on 12 October 2011 - 05:38 AM, said:

View PostEmurlahn, on 12 October 2011 - 04:56 AM, said:

View PostOmtose, on 12 October 2011 - 04:21 AM, said:

Back who wants to talk



I do
any reason you prefer Karosis over say, Kaschan?


There are several reasons why I perfer Karosis over kaschan. 1. Karosis has started to make statements where he down plays the warlord threats. That smacks of someone who has that role and hasn't been able to do much with it so far (see him talking about how the warlord isn't as powerful as an emperor and so shouldn't be considered as much of a threat as a emperor) which is bullshit. The warlords are just as big of a threat as the emperors to each emperor. On a slightly different tangent but so that you can see how I have been thinking.

The Yan are the only group that doesn't have a warlord threat. They also won their game. So to balance out the other emperors, Drek inserted the usuper as the Han's (internal) threat. While making the warlords the Xia and Lu internal threats. Now I have been quietly figuring out who is moving around the area that I am in. I have a pretty good idea that Karosis isn't right. The other one that I am not sure about is Hood's Path. But I am a lot more not sure about Karosis.



Okay. Reading back this post stands out to me. Now I have been quietly figuring out who is moving around the area that I am in. What the hell does he mean by quietly figuring out? This sounds like an action to me. Though I should vote for him because he could have just as easily inserted my name in for Karosis's if for nothing else. But as I would like to make the right descion for my team I will hold off and give he a chance to explain. If I don't hear from him then I'll go all medival on his rear end for nearly strawmanning me instead.


Oh I am not strawmaning you at all. I tried to do a find on you last night and it was blocked by the white rider karosis. So what do you have to say now. That I am fully of shit well fuck that it is my ass on the line and I am not. I made one find on the white rider then I was blocked by him when I tried to do a find on you. So explain why that would happen boyyy


What?! Wait a minute

remove vote

I've blocked actions before and have been blocked. They didn't tell me who I blocked or who blocked me. This is crap.


No that is what I got. I have been blocked most nights. This was last night and it was the first time that happened to me as well. Which makes me what to do a find on you even more. I assumed that you were his champion and that Karosis was either guarding me or doing a find on me. I don't know how the warlords powers work.


You are still trying to throw me under the bus. If what you are saying is true and Karosis is a member of the GongSun Zan's white riders then there is no possible way that he could do a block for me as we are not part of the same faction. You can only do blocks for players of your same faction.

Easy descion

vote Omtose


Glad you see it that way. Of course your not going to come out and say that you are the white riders champion now are you.

Night 4 I found karosis he was the white rider.
Night 5 I found HP he came back as blocked by a rider in white

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Posted 12 October 2011 - 09:52 PM

View PostHood, on 12 October 2011 - 09:50 PM, said:

And to think I was going to vote Karosis and save this tool.




We will see who the tool is c**t rag

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Posted 12 October 2011 - 09:53 PM

Even if you guys end up lynching me I can't strongly suggest enough that you lynch Karosis and HP.

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Posted 12 October 2011 - 09:54 PM

View PostSheltatha Lore, on 12 October 2011 - 09:49 PM, said:

Hahaha

This is Mafia gold, right here



I'm glad you are enjoying this as you have kept your hands clean and stayed in the shadows.

Someone needs to do a find on you. You are conviently staying out of the spotlight lurking and popping in and out when things are full blown shit fest involving other players.

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Posted 12 October 2011 - 09:55 PM

View PostOmtose, on 12 October 2011 - 09:51 PM, said:

View PostHood, on 12 October 2011 - 09:48 PM, said:

View PostOmtose, on 12 October 2011 - 09:31 PM, said:

View PostHood, on 12 October 2011 - 09:22 PM, said:

View PostOmtose, on 12 October 2011 - 09:00 PM, said:

View PostHood, on 12 October 2011 - 08:32 PM, said:

View PostOmtose, on 12 October 2011 - 05:38 AM, said:

View PostEmurlahn, on 12 October 2011 - 04:56 AM, said:

View PostOmtose, on 12 October 2011 - 04:21 AM, said:

Back who wants to talk



I do
any reason you prefer Karosis over say, Kaschan?


There are several reasons why I perfer Karosis over kaschan. 1. Karosis has started to make statements where he down plays the warlord threats. That smacks of someone who has that role and hasn't been able to do much with it so far (see him talking about how the warlord isn't as powerful as an emperor and so shouldn't be considered as much of a threat as a emperor) which is bullshit. The warlords are just as big of a threat as the emperors to each emperor. On a slightly different tangent but so that you can see how I have been thinking.

The Yan are the only group that doesn't have a warlord threat. They also won their game. So to balance out the other emperors, Drek inserted the usuper as the Han's (internal) threat. While making the warlords the Xia and Lu internal threats. Now I have been quietly figuring out who is moving around the area that I am in. I have a pretty good idea that Karosis isn't right. The other one that I am not sure about is Hood's Path. But I am a lot more not sure about Karosis.



Okay. Reading back this post stands out to me. Now I have been quietly figuring out who is moving around the area that I am in. What the hell does he mean by quietly figuring out? This sounds like an action to me. Though I should vote for him because he could have just as easily inserted my name in for Karosis's if for nothing else. But as I would like to make the right descion for my team I will hold off and give he a chance to explain. If I don't hear from him then I'll go all medival on his rear end for nearly strawmanning me instead.


Oh I am not strawmaning you at all. I tried to do a find on you last night and it was blocked by the white rider karosis. So what do you have to say now. That I am fully of shit well fuck that it is my ass on the line and I am not. I made one find on the white rider then I was blocked by him when I tried to do a find on you. So explain why that would happen boyyy


What?! Wait a minute

remove vote

I've blocked actions before and have been blocked. They didn't tell me who I blocked or who blocked me. This is crap.


No that is what I got. I have been blocked most nights. This was last night and it was the first time that happened to me as well. Which makes me what to do a find on you even more. I assumed that you were his champion and that Karosis was either guarding me or doing a find on me. I don't know how the warlords powers work.


You are still trying to throw me under the bus. If what you are saying is true and Karosis is a member of the GongSun Zan's white riders then there is no possible way that he could do a block for me as we are not part of the same faction. You can only do blocks for players of your same faction.

Easy descion

vote Omtose


Glad you see it that way. Of course your not going to come out and say that you are the white riders champion now are you.

Night 4 I found karosis he was the white rider.
Night 5 I found HP he came back as blocked by a rider in white



By your own words this isn't even the same thing. A rider in white could be someone wearing white and not be a GongSun Zan white rider.

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Posted 12 October 2011 - 09:58 PM

View PostOmtose, on 12 October 2011 - 09:44 PM, said:

View PostAtrahal, on 12 October 2011 - 09:36 PM, said:

View PostOmtose, on 12 October 2011 - 09:34 PM, said:

I am kind of around for a while so ask questions and I will try to answer them.


Spell it out night by night


What spell out who I have tried to do finds on each night and what the results were or just the last two nights?I don't think you want me to reveal all of my finds ATRAHAL.


Go for it. If you know who I am.

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Posted 12 October 2011 - 10:03 PM

View PostHood, on 12 October 2011 - 09:54 PM, said:

View PostSheltatha Lore, on 12 October 2011 - 09:49 PM, said:

Hahaha

This is Mafia gold, right here



I'm glad you are enjoying this as you have kept your hands clean and stayed in the shadows.

Someone needs to do a find on you. You are conviently staying out of the spotlight lurking and popping in and out when things are full blown shit fest involving other players.



Are you feeling heat when you're not even up for a lynch? You call for a find on me by one of your minions? Maybe Omtose is telling it straight after all. Your summary of my playing is inadequate. This is my first "shit fest" in this game, I have been out of the shadows more than you, I think.

Also, we are playing a game here, it's supposed to be fun. Lighten up, HP. Remember this shit fest was about Omtose & Karosis, now you've got eyes on yourself!

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Posted 12 October 2011 - 10:06 PM

View PostSilanah, on 12 October 2011 - 07:07 PM, said:

Okay, from what I can tell:

Reasons for Voting Omtose:

Low posting
Emur's word (who knows if he's lying or not) that Karosis has a chance of being kingdom.
Emur considers him a Wildcard, may be Sima whatever
Korlat thinks Omtose knows something, twisting words business, atrahal nonsarcasm
HP also thinks that Omtose knows something. Hmm...
Atrahal thinks Omtose is someone of importance
Conclusion: From my own conclusions about other players, I believe that Omtose is Ma Chao, if he is a barbarian.

Reasons for voting Karosis:

Low posting
Very defensive when pressure was applied.
Tennes believes Omtose is in kingdom faction (with what basis?)
Tennes believes someone found Karosis, based on certain unspecified posts
Emur says there's a good chance Karosis is a white rider (still votes Omtose, for being more of a wild card).
Sheltatha votes without specifying why either way...
Conclusion: I'm really not certain what Karosis is, from my conclusions about other players.

I'm thinking if Omtose turns out to be Barbarian, Shel is from his faction.
I'm thinking if Karosis turns out to be Barbarian, Korlat is from his faction.

Any thoughts on this?

Honestly, the Case against Omtose seems a bit stronger. I'm considering changing my vote.





View PostSilanah, on 12 October 2011 - 07:39 PM, said:

Players not voted: Galain, Hood's Path, Kaschan, Okaros, Thyrllan

Hmm.

HP is waiting on his vote, he doesn't seem happy with either option, but he'll be around to vote I believe.
Okaros (if I remember correctly) doesn't like Tennes.
I don't remember anything from Galain, Kaschan, or Thyr





Ok I am trying to get caught up and I love posts like the ones above. Hard to keep track of everything, so stuff like this is glorious. I should note though, that I have nothing against Tennes. I ran out of time and only had enough to check up on Tennes posts. I was hoping maybe someone sharper than myself would have seen something in Tennes' posts that I was too dense to recognize. I'm planning to gather posts from other low posters as soon as I get the time.

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View PostOmtose, on 12 October 2011 - 08:59 PM, said:

Ok fine I am back and I can see that there is a major train building on me and completely ignoring Karosis.

Fine I did a find on Karosis and he came back as the white rider. That is my information and how I know that Karosis is a warlord specifically the white rider. Oh but it gets better. I moved to another square after several days of not being able to then I did another find and was blocked by a white rider. Karosis.



Now we're talking. This has the ring of truth to it. I knew I was right to wait.

vote Karosis



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View PostOmtose, on 12 October 2011 - 04:21 AM, said:

Back who wants to talk



I do
any reason you prefer Karosis over say, Kaschan?


There are several reasons why I perfer Karosis over kaschan. 1. Karosis has started to make statements where he down plays the warlord threats. That smacks of someone who has that role and hasn't been able to do much with it so far (see him talking about how the warlord isn't as powerful as an emperor and so shouldn't be considered as much of a threat as a emperor) which is bullshit. The warlords are just as big of a threat as the emperors to each emperor. On a slightly different tangent but so that you can see how I have been thinking.

The Yan are the only group that doesn't have a warlord threat. They also won their game. So to balance out the other emperors, Drek inserted the usuper as the Han's (internal) threat. While making the warlords the Xia and Lu internal threats. Now I have been quietly figuring out who is moving around the area that I am in. I have a pretty good idea that Karosis isn't right. The other one that I am not sure about is Hood's Path. But I am a lot more not sure about Karosis.



Okay. Reading back this post stands out to me. Now I have been quietly figuring out who is moving around the area that I am in. What the hell does he mean by quietly figuring out? This sounds like an action to me. Though I should vote for him because he could have just as easily inserted my name in for Karosis's if for nothing else. But as I would like to make the right descion for my team I will hold off and give he a chance to explain. If I don't hear from him then I'll go all medival on his rear end for nearly strawmanning me instead.


Oh I am not strawmaning you at all. I tried to do a find on you last night and it was blocked by the white rider karosis. So what do you have to say now. That I am fully of shit well fuck that it is my ass on the line and I am not. I made one find on the white rider then I was blocked by him when I tried to do a find on you. So explain why that would happen boyyy


What?! Wait a minute

remove vote

I've blocked actions before and have been blocked. They didn't tell me who I blocked or who blocked me. This is crap.


No that is what I got. I have been blocked most nights. This was last night and it was the first time that happened to me as well. Which makes me what to do a find on you even more. I assumed that you were his champion and that Karosis was either guarding me or doing a find on me. I don't know how the warlords powers work.


You are still trying to throw me under the bus. If what you are saying is true and Karosis is a member of the GongSun Zan's white riders then there is no possible way that he could do a block for me as we are not part of the same faction. You can only do blocks for players of your same faction.

Easy descion

vote Omtose


It seems that Omtose's find can be tested by lynching Karosis. Either Omtose is right, or he is lying and comes under heavy scrutiny. But I have not been made aware of who has blocked my actions before; why should it be any different for Omtose? Is it that the barbs get identified when they use a guard or block ability? Not sure how that fits into the game's balance. Well I will not be back tonight, seeing as I'm up to the shoulders in crap I need to do this week.

Vote Karosis


The way I see it, if Omtose is lying than we will know once Karosis is lynched. I am also fairly sure that Karosis is not part of my faction (and it seems likely he is a barb).

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Posted 12 October 2011 - 10:12 PM

View PostSheltatha Lore, on 12 October 2011 - 10:03 PM, said:

View PostHood, on 12 October 2011 - 09:54 PM, said:

View PostSheltatha Lore, on 12 October 2011 - 09:49 PM, said:

Hahaha

This is Mafia gold, right here



I'm glad you are enjoying this as you have kept your hands clean and stayed in the shadows.

Someone needs to do a find on you. You are conviently staying out of the spotlight lurking and popping in and out when things are full blown shit fest involving other players.



Are you feeling heat when you're not even up for a lynch? You call for a find on me by one of your minions? Maybe Omtose is telling it straight after all. Your summary of my playing is inadequate. This is my first "shit fest" in this game, I have been out of the shadows more than you, I think.

Also, we are playing a game here, it's supposed to be fun. Lighten up, HP. Remember this shit fest was about Omtose & Karosis, now you've got eyes on yourself!


Sorry. I was pissed and I reacted out of anger. But for your information eyes have been on me for quite some time. Just go back through the thread and see how often people mention me. Since I know I have been on people's minds, I wanted to nip this crap that Omtose is spouting in the bud before it goes too far.

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