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Need encouragement--did DG have a point?

#21 User is offline   gandrin 

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Posted 29 June 2011 - 04:24 PM

View PostSinisdar Toste, on 29 June 2011 - 03:18 AM, said:

just to give you something to obsess over, guess which tiny scene in fiddlers journey becomes one of the most important events in the series ;)


I have a guess. I won't voice it, because I don't want hints. so NO HINTS.
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Posted 29 June 2011 - 10:49 PM

View PostSinisdar Toste, on 29 June 2011 - 03:18 AM, said:

just to give you something to obsess over, guess which tiny scene in fiddlers journey becomes one of the most important events in the series :)


This is a great point. Each book in ine series is actually chock-full of little things that might seem innocuous on first read, but when you come back to them with knowledge of what happens later on, everything clicks into place. The series positively demands re-reads for this reason; I'm on my - I think - fourth run through DG at the moment and still discovering "HOLY F--K!" moments in it - seeing small incidents that I know have huge resonations in the second half of the series but that I completely missed previously.

Look on DG as a scene opener for the Seven Cities episodes. You're being introduced to a new setup, you're meeting new people, you're discovering new cultures. A lot of these will have awesome parts to play later on (including one of the most mindblowing sequences ever written - wait till The Bonehunters and you'll see ;) ). You're also getting important backstory on one (more than one!) of the major players, and a lot of info on motivations and the reasons behind them, that will all become clear when you progress more. And a first glimpse at something that will be increasingly important throughout the series, and have a critical role at the climax in book 10. As a bonus it's a cracking good read!

Did I mention that this was complex stuff?
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Posted 30 June 2011 - 04:42 PM

View PostCrow Clan Baby, on 29 June 2011 - 10:49 PM, said:

View PostSinisdar Toste, on 29 June 2011 - 03:18 AM, said:

just to give you something to obsess over, guess which tiny scene in fiddlers journey becomes one of the most important events in the series :)


This is a great point. Each book in ine series is actually chock-full of little things that might seem innocuous on first read, but when you come back to them with knowledge of what happens later on, everything clicks into place. The series positively demands re-reads for this reason; I'm on my - I think - fourth run through DG at the moment and still discovering "HOLY F--K!" moments in it - seeing small incidents that I know have huge resonations in the second half of the series but that I completely missed previously.

Look on DG as a scene opener for the Seven Cities episodes. You're being introduced to a new setup, you're meeting new people, you're discovering new cultures. A lot of these will have awesome parts to play later on (including one of the most mindblowing sequences ever written - wait till The Bonehunters and you'll see ;) ). You're also getting important backstory on one (more than one!) of the major players, and a lot of info on motivations and the reasons behind them, that will all become clear when you progress more. And a first glimpse at something that will be increasingly important throughout the series, and have a critical role at the climax in book 10. As a bonus it's a cracking good read!

Did I mention that this was complex stuff?



Yummy. Now I've gotta go find the next book. Not easy to find these books, BTW.
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Posted 04 July 2011 - 03:54 PM

Please read on. I certainly find that there are points that begin and end and don't seem to have a lot to do with the 'overall story' other than context building and I found that irritating sometimes, but the way Erikson manages to weave seperate together, and then have them wildly diverge and THEN come back together again is masterful.

I'd advise (at the risk of being contrary to previous posters) to not get into WoT. It has its charms and you would probably enjoy the first few books, but I will tell you that it's the very first series I've ever given up on after getting into it. I read EIGHT books in and the quality (in my opinion) got so poor after the first four books (and continued to deteriorate) that it wasn't worth it in the slightest for me to continue. There's so much filler that it gets really hard to read.
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Posted 05 July 2011 - 08:27 AM

View PostSeatiger, on 28 June 2011 - 07:55 PM, said:

Been a while who and what walls are you talking about?





Mallick Rel as the mole inside Aren. Keneb remembers what Kalam heard from the bandits and thus Blistig didn't leave Aren and saved the city despite Pormqual's idiocy.

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