[Ampelas]

Galain, on 01 July 2011 - 06:37 PM, said:

@Amp - I didn't think people really looked seriously into that scene. Eloth's early post, HP accusing of Lady-ish signals, whatever. I voted HP (and others had no problem joining) as much to progress the game as anything, except he was discouraging conversation, which I find counterproductive.


Your second part does make sense, but I don't think he was planning my doom from the onset. (but I could be wrong ;WIFOM) It seemed more like a final "screw-you" I will be sure to find out what he was thinking after the game.

Well it's what I have to work with to make my choice. Who would you like to see lynched and why?

I'll be around for a few more hours. It's a holiday weekend for us States side so once I check out I probably won't be back until Tuesday.

[Ampelas]

Well I got a bit of a bonus. The big wigs are letting us peons off a few hours early for the holiday weekend. See everyone next week.

[Osseric]

Ok, something doesn't add up. That something, is a faction leader suiciding, and the dominator going down that easy makes me doubly suspicious. Either Korbas is lying, or being fed misinformation. The only alternative to that is the Dominator's conditions on becoming uber-powerful hadn't lined up properly (i.e. he wasnt fully 'awake' yet). Now - as for Korbas lying, it is possible that Korbas was recruited by the Dominator. If he was recruited, then it could make sense for him to falsely claim the Dominator is dead. I know it's WIFOM to speculate about kills (ha! I'll do it anyways!), but Barghast was the person really pushing for Korbas to die, and now he's been knocked off.


Now, if Lio was the dominator, his wild posting at the end and pointing at Galain was either to put Galain beneath suspicion, or he was convinced Galain was an opposing leader and shoudl be next.

If Lio wasn't the dominator, his pointing at Galain becomes more serious as an accusation.

Regardless of whether Korbas' is lying or not, Lio has put Galain firmly in a suspicion spotlight.

[D'riss]

I'm not entirely sure what to make of today. The Dominator suiciding? Isn't that too good to be true? I don't know, I think there were all sorts of flack, flares, and decoys in that mess to take it at face value. There's just too much weirdness there.

And, here goes some good old scene interpretation, the death scene implies a major character death. So, I think somebody major got killed, be it Lady, Dominator, or White Rose. Korbas will shade it whichever way would seem best for his faction, so I'm fairly tempted to think we actually hit the Lady or the White Rose if we did in fact hit someone major.

Christ, talking myself into circles and wifom drunk.

[Rashan]

I am reading up

[Rashan]

Osseric, on 01 July 2011 - 11:03 PM, said:

Ok, something doesn't add up. That something, is a faction leader suiciding, and the dominator going down that easy makes me doubly suspicious. Either Korbas is lying, or being fed misinformation. The only alternative to that is the Dominator's conditions on becoming uber-powerful hadn't lined up properly (i.e. he wasnt fully 'awake' yet). Now - as for Korbas lying, it is possible that Korbas was recruited by the Dominator. If he was recruited, then it could make sense for him to falsely claim the Dominator is dead. I know it's WIFOM to speculate about kills (ha! I'll do it anyways!), but Barghast was the person really pushing for Korbas to die, and now he's been knocked off.


Now, if Lio was the dominator, his wild posting at the end and pointing at Galain was either to put Galain beneath suspicion, or he was convinced Galain was an opposing leader and shoudl be next.

If Lio wasn't the dominator, his pointing at Galain becomes more serious as an accusation.

Regardless of whether Korbas' is lying or not, Lio has put Galain firmly in a suspicion spotlight.

It does seem extremely weird of a suicide. OTOH it is Bent....

At the very least, it seems that both A. The dominator still being alive and B. the dominator recruiting every night arent likely both true because otherwise then we'd have the dominator and 3 recruits of his making a majority for the cult.

At this point all the fractions are so thin that if the dominator is still alive and can recruit more he will.... well dominate. And I agree that would have to be indicative that Korbas has been recruited. Hopefully not with his whole company going with him. Since the dominator cant have been recruiting every night the next most logical is every 2 nights. We saw Feather was recruited night 1, so the dominator would have recruited Korbas night 3 and would recruit someone else tonight. That makes 3 of them tomorrow, which after a lynch and NK we'll be down to 5 and theres your dominator majority.

So. I didnt agree with Barg before about Korbas, but now it may be the time. If hes telling the truth then the dominator is dead and wont win. If he was lying about the dominator, we lynch Korbas today (or maybe we lynch who we think the dom is and osseric NKs Korbas instead, whatever) so that at most the dominator is at 2 tomorrow, giving us another try at him. Make sense?

[D'riss]

If Korbas has been recruited, his CF are going to try to help his faction yes? Who does it help the most to CF someone as the Dominator? I'd say Dominator, yes?

[Rashan]

D, on 02 July 2011 - 04:53 AM, said:

If Korbas has been recruited, his CF are going to try to help his faction yes? Who does it help the most to CF someone as the Dominator? I'd say Dominator, yes?

Thats what I'm saying. There's the possibility that he was recruited Night 3 and so to help the Dominator faked the Lio CF to say it was the Dominator while it is really someone else.... let's say Galain. Given Lio's raging on Galain, this would be a good way to discredit Lio's claims and potentially try to pull the heat off Galain, except that the CF is so unbelievable (which in turn makes me think it's *not* Galain...)

But yeah, if that is the case we need to remove Korbas or the Dom (or both) today/tonight or there will be 3 of them with a majority tomorrow.

[D'riss]

Well, we have at least one killer left. Lio claimed Galain was a killer at some point in that hot-mess. I don't think a recruiter would have both powers unless they alternated nights (balance mechanics).

[D'riss]

Are we getting a weekend-break? Thread-lock? Or is all's well that ends well as of right now for weekend gameplay?

[Rashan]

I don't know for sure, but I think its Osseric. Unless we've got a Raven killer hereabouts.

What about you D'riss, anything useful you can contribute to the cause?

[D'riss]

Besides trying to find the remaining possible recruiters, what else would you like? I've told you my suspects and voted for them accordingly.

[Rashan]

What would I like? Reveal you're a finder and point out who the Dominator and White Rose are? That'd be mighty useful about now....

[D'riss]

I don't know. I've had Liosan, Galain, and Korbas teamed for a while. Thus, today has played a clusterfuck with my theories. I'm not considering Ampelas as a leader, nothing has changed for me since last night in that sense. My gut has been on there so far, for the most part. Leaving the Lady, Dominator, White Rose amongst you, Galain, Antrhas, and Osseric. I think one leader is dead. Leaving two amongst the four.

Trying to configure out who amongst the four, considering yesterday, is not easy. And, I'm drunk, so that doesn't help.

[Rashan]

D, on 02 July 2011 - 05:18 AM, said:

I don't know. I've had Liosan, Galain, and Korbas teamed for a while. Thus, today has played a clusterfuck with my theories. I'm not considering Ampelas as a leader, nothing has changed for me since last night in that sense. My gut has been on there so far, for the most part. Leaving the Lady, Dominator, White Rose amongst you, Galain, Antrhas, and Osseric. I think one leader is dead. Leaving two amongst the four.

Trying to configure out who amongst the four, considering yesterday, is not easy. And, I'm drunk, so that doesn't help.

Lio Gal and Korbas? That's crazy.

I was thinking Korbas as Croaker with Amp and Anthras backing him (Raven/Goblin/Silent sorta thing). If there's a dominator still in there Galain or Anthras seem like top contenders but I wouldn't rule that completely.

You think my plan to lynch Korbas in case he's a dominator recruit has any merit?

[D'riss]

It's kind of a worst case scenario sort of thing for me right now. It makes sense if you can narrow him down to Dominator faction to solely to prevent a win for them. The problem I have is I can't automatically narrow him down, and as it stands now, I'd rather take a chance on someone else.

[Rashan]

Okay, well we'll see what he has to say when he gets back anyways. But basically my plan of action prevents the worst-case scenario if Korbas is Dom, but also isn't terribly bad if he isn't a Dom recruitee (because in that case there's no reason for him to have lied on the CF and ergo there is no more Dominator)

Anyways I'm to bed, c ya later.

[Korbas]

My thoughts on this are:

1) I don't think that the Dominator can recruit people from the lady or Soul catchers faction.
2) I think if the dominator is the recruiter which makes sense, then why not recruit from the rebels?
3) I think killing off rebels is the next best plan.
4) by my count there are 2 rebels left
5) my thoughts on 1) are because i haven't been recruited or killed and i don't see why that is. I am hoping one of you have been protecting me or something along those lines although i wouldn't know.

i think dominator faction is dead, and we need to kill the remaining rebels who are part of the dominator "side"

thought?

[D'riss]

My thoughts? You enumerated extraordinarily well.

[Lizradusa]

D, on 02 July 2011 - 05:06 AM, said:

Are we getting a weekend-break? Thread-lock? Or is all's well that ends well as of right now for weekend gameplay?

I mentioned earlier that we have a weekend-break.
The clock is frozen and you can still vote and lynch.

This post has been edited by Lizra: 02 July 2011 - 12:59 PM