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Posted 26 June 2011 - 11:25 AM

GET OUT, EXCEPT YOU ARE ME OR INVITED!!!!!!
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You are warned!

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Posted 26 June 2011 - 11:25 AM

Alts:

Korabas-reasonable
Barghast-pending
Sorrit-impeach
Osseric-cardboard
Korbas-musket
Eloth-induce
Antrhas-key
Ampelas-eremite
Rashan-leaden
Tellan-future
Ruse-movement
Omtose-icarus
Mockra-quiet
Liosan-automatic
Hood's Path-neutral
Galain-expected
D'riss-lighter
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Posted 26 June 2011 - 11:46 AM

Osseric - Shinrei - the Lady
Antrhas - Kurt Montandon - Limper
Liosan - Bent - Dominator
Eloth - dkt - Feather
D'riss - HD - White Rose
Ampelas - twelve - Raven
Tellan - Morgoth - Soulcatcher
Korabas - dibs - One-Eye
Korbas - Tattersail - Croaker
Rashan - D'rek - Whisper
Ruse - ansible - Raker
Omtose - Roldom - Harden
Mockra - Mentalist - female Rabel
Hood's Path - Gwynn ap Nudd - female Rebel
Galain - Hidden One - Female Rebel
Barghast - Gust Hubb - male Rebel
Sorrit - Muttley - male Rebel
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Posted 26 June 2011 - 12:36 PM

Role PMs

The Lady: You are a powerful tyrant. The Lady – buried for a long time and now resurrected, you seek your old power. But there is the Rebel who wants you dead again and masses up all forces possible to oppose you. And rumor is, the White Rose, the child that buried you in first place, is back. But even more important to you is your knowledge that your old husband, the Dominator, is awakening and trying to escape his barrow as well, a thing you cannot possibly allow. He is using the rebel-forces, to try to crush you. You know Soulcatcher (Tellan).

You can only be killed by someone of equal stature.

You cannot be recruited.

A lynch on you only succeeds, if the Dominator is on the train. If the Dominator is dead, you have one lynchproof.

You can 'take' - recute – players. That takes you two nights. One for breaking/preparing the player and one to recute him. Recruited people learn the identety of the Limper.

You win when all opposition is removed.


The Dominator: You are an ancient tyrant. However, you were buried centuries ago and when your wife – the Lady – escaped, she made sure that you are still trapped. But you are awakening and gaining influence over the females of the Rebel and the old Taken. You seek to destroy your wife to gain freedom, but the prophesied child threads not only your wife, but you as well. You know Soulcatcher (Tellan).

You can only be killed by someone of equal stature.

You cannot be recruited.

A lynch only succeeds, if the White Rose is on the train. If the White Rose is dead, you have one lynchproof.

You can enchante players. This only succeeds, if the enchanted person is female. Enchanted players learn the identety of Feather.

You win when all opposition is removed.



The White Rose: You are the White Rose. The prophesied child to destroy the Lady. But you are young and not yet ready for that confrontation. As you are mute, you use handsignals to talk. Raven knows your signals best. You seek protection from Raven, who is a member of the black company. You know Raven is Ampelas.

You can only be killed by someone of equal stature.

You cannot be recruited.

A lynch on you only succeeds, if the Lady is on the train. If the lady is dead, you have one lynchproof.

You can communicate off-thread with Raven.

You win if the Rebel and the Dominator are defeated. Wining conditions may change during the game.



Soulcatcher: You are the first of the Taken and now you see the chance to destroy the Lady and Dominator both and gain more power. Currently, you are high in the Ladys favor, having recruited the Black Company, the only force with any success worth the name against the Rebel. The Company is at your command, not directly at the Ladys. The Dominator trusts you to do everything possible to help him get free. But that is not your goal.

You win, when the Dominator, the Lady and the Rebel are all dead.

You can kill one person every night.

You have one bulletproof.

You cannot be recruited.




The Limper: You are the Limper. You are a powerful Taken , but having failed the Lady often of late, you are low in favor and you try everything, to regain it again. You know the Lady is Osseric.

You can kill one person every night



Croaker: You are Croaker, the historian of the Black Company, a mercenary company hired by Soulcatcher to help the Lady defeat the Rebel. You try to find out as much as possible to put it into the Annals of the Company. That is why the Lady told you, that her husband, the Dominator is trying to free himself and that he uses Rebel forces to gain his goal.

You get the CF of everyone who is dead.

You win if the Dominator and the Rebel are defeated.




One-Eye: You are One-Eye. You are one of the mages of the Black Company, a mercenary company hired by Soulcatcher to help the Lady defeat the Rebel. But you magery is pale and weak, compared to that of the Taken and the Circle. However, you are known for your blackmarketing, where you always get the new rumors and make up new ones that serve the Company.

Ever night, you can make up a new rumor, send to a specific person. (I want _______ to know that ________ is _______)

You win if the Dominator and the Rebel are defeated.




Raven: The Limper and your wife betrayed you, trying to kill you. But you survived and joined the Black Company, a mercenary company hired by Soulcatcher to help the Lady defeat the Rebel. There you find the White Rose (D'riss), a mute child, that uses signs to communicate. You know her signs best. You are excellent with your knifes.

You can communicate off-thread with the White Rose.

You have one daykill.

You win if the Rebel and the Dominator are defeated. Wining conditions may change during the game.





Whisper: You are Whisper, a member of the Circle of Eighteen. You are a cunning woman and a military genius. You gathered a lot of intelligence about the Taken, from some even the real name. However, to defeat the Lady, you need to find the White Rose, the child, prophesied to kill the Lady

Ever night, you can do a find on one person.

You have one bulletproof.

You know the Raker is Ruse.

You win, if the Lady and the Dominator are defeated.





Raker: You are Raker, a member of the Circle of Eighteen. You have succeeded in a lot of campaigns against the Limper, and gave the Black Company trouble. However, you are still looking for the White Rose, the child prophesied to kill the Lady.

You have one daykill.

You have one Lynchproof.

You win, if the Lady and the Dominator are defeated.




Harden: You are Harden, a member of the Circle of Eighteen. You have led a lot of successful campaigns against the Limper. However, you are still looking for the White Rose, the child prophesied to kill the Lady.

Every night you can kill one person.

You know Feather is Eloth.

You win, if the Lady and the Dominator are defeated.




Feather: You are Feather, a member of the Circle of Eighteen. But you are enchanted by the Dominator and playing a double game to help him gain freedom, by destroying his wife.

You have one nightkill, however, when you use it, the Rebel learns of you betrayal and kills you. (suicide vig).

You win, if the Lady and the Rebel are defeated.



Female Rebel: You are one of the people who are trying to bring the Lady down. You have taken up the sword and are now going to war, hoping to survive the madness to come.

You win, if the Lady and the Dominator are defeated.


Male Rebel: You are one of the people who are trying to bring the Lady down. You have taken up the sword and are now going to war, hoping to survive the madness to come.

You win, if the Lady and the Dominator are defeated.

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Posted 26 June 2011 - 12:58 PM

SH: planets
PS: hopeful
MM: sunshine
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Posted 26 June 2011 - 04:38 PM

Well it looks like a great game. I love that Dibs and Morgy are going to be going at each other. Morgy hasn't played in a while, it will be interesting to see which one is able to alt the other first and how long it takes them to kill each other off.

Bent as the dominator with DKT as his symp is a tough combo. Should be a good game.
How many fucking people do I have to hammer in order to get that across.
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Posted 26 June 2011 - 05:32 PM

Night Actions


Night One:
Dibs/Korabas: Tellan learns Eloth is Taken
Antrahs: kill Sorrit
Liosan: enchant Osseric (fails)
Rashan: find D'riss
Osseric: recruit Mockra
Tellan: kill HP (backup Eloth)
Omtose: kill HP (backup Korabas)

Night 2:
Anthras: kills Mockra
Liosan: enchants Mockra: succeeds because Mockra is a female rebel.
Rashan: finds Mockra (female rebel, recruited by the Lady & Dominator)
Osseric: recruit Mockra (succeeds)
Tellan: kill Korbas, fails because of being dead.
Omtose: kill Ruse (Raker, rebel)

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Posted 27 June 2011 - 07:24 AM

Ah, awesome, whole set-up is done :p. In the new grey skin, I don't get warnings about SH containing new posts, apparently, hence me not ye showing my face.

I really like the role division.

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Posted 27 June 2011 - 09:33 AM

OK, this has to be said: I really like the way you handle player feedback.

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Posted 27 June 2011 - 10:22 AM

Korabas, on 27 June 2011 - 09:54 AM, said:

i want tellan to know that eloth is a dick bag............ sorry is a taken.


noted.

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Posted 27 June 2011 - 10:27 AM

View PostPath-Shaper, on 27 June 2011 - 09:33 AM, said:

OK, this has to be said: I really like the way you handle player feedback.

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Thanks. :p

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Posted 27 June 2011 - 03:17 PM

Bent is happy with his role

Liosan, on 26 June 2011 - 08:32 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 26 June 2011 - 11:56 AM, said:

The Dominator: You are an ancient tyrant. However, you were buried centuries ago and when your wife – the Lady – escaped, she made sure that you are still trapped. But you are awakening and gaining influence over the females of the Rebel and the old Taken. You seek to destroy your wife to gain freedom, but the prophesied child threads not only your wife, but you as well. You know Soulcatcher (Tellan).

You can only be killed by someone of equal stature.

You cannot be recruited.

A lynch only succeeds, if the White Rose is on the train. If the White Rose is dead, you have one lynchproof.

You can enchante players. This only succeeds, if the enchanted person is female. Enchanted players learn the identety of Feather.

You win when all opposition is removed.


I am SOOOOOO ready to dominate this game! Let the chaos begin!

Also - toast


As is twelve

Ampelas, on 27 June 2011 - 06:54 AM, said:

Cool. First time having any kind of killing power. Now the question is can I keep from getting myself killed long enough to get to use it.



HD's guesses about the setup

D, on 27 June 2011 - 12:22 AM, said:

Ooooooh, it's a lady!

A rose is a rose is a rose.... White or red, or more accurately deaf and dumb in this instance.

So, I have no active powers, merely passive protection and a lover comm with Raven. Not so bad, at least I'll have someone to badger when I'm drunk.

I assume my death is a victory condition for the Lady (and her Taken) and perhaps the Dominator. The Rebellion should want to find me... but I can't be recruited... my Affiliation is with none of the others, at least canon-wise at this point in time. So, I'm not exactly a member of the Black Company, but under their protection, with Raven as my connection to them. That means I'm hard to lynch, probably easy to murder, and a win scenario piece. How to play it though.... hard to lynch means chataway, but that draws night actions where I'm susceptible to lynch. I can't be recruited, so would like to avoid drawing the attention of the Dominator, which means avoid night-actions. Decisions decisions....

Role guesses: 5x5x5x1

Dominator = Cult recruiter

The Empire
Lady - Faction lead
Soulcatcher
Limper
Shifter?
Howler?

The Black Company
Croaker - Faction lead?
Goblin/One-Eye
Captain - faction lead?
Raven
White Rose

The Rebellion
Whisper - Faction leader
Feather
Journey
Guy who gets his head removed in Roses
Guy who gets pawned by Shifter as his horse in the Windy Country


D, on 27 June 2011 - 04:15 AM, said:

Herp Derp 5x3 +1 = 16 not 17.

So, either unequal factions, Cult starts with a teammate (dog guy), or there is another single person faction (Lady or me would be guess) seeing as how my victory condition is possible to change. If Raven dies maybe? Oh well.

Also, it comes to me that the Lady might be a cult recruiter too. She can Take, although it wasn't known to anyone but her and the Dominator until she did it... so. I'll just not mention that on thread.



Ment is fishing

Mockra, on 27 June 2011 - 12:25 AM, said:

huh

I thiught I was Limper's lackey no2?



jokes aside, the Dominator is alive awake in this one? that's not good. Not good at all.


do i know who Whisper is by any chance?

Path-Shaper, on 27 June 2011 - 08:05 AM, said:

You don't even know if Whisper is in this game. :p
And sadly you are an unknowing lowly rebel this game, so no more information for you. :p


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Posted 27 June 2011 - 03:26 PM

Morgoth is fishing for information, too.

Path-Shaper, on 26 June 2011 - 05:30 PM, said:

Tellan, on 26 June 2011 - 01:42 PM, said:

First...

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!


with that out of the way. I run the black company and answer to the Lady, yet I know not the identity of the Lady nor any members of the black company?



Correct. :p


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Tellan, on 26 June 2011 - 08:17 PM, said:

huh.. Can I ask if any of the black company knows my identity?

Path-Shaper, on 27 June 2011 - 08:00 AM, said:

You don't get more information than you already have. :p

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Path-Shaper, on 27 June 2011 - 09:10 AM, said:

Tellan, on 27 June 2011 - 08:28 AM, said:

but I waaaaant more information!



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Tellan, on 27 June 2011 - 09:16 AM, said:

So 16 players.. I need to get the black company to win, but not before the Lady and Dominator dies.

The problem here is that I can risk hitting a black company man, perhaps even the main power role, on night 1 which would likely make my victory all but impossible. So, a strong argument could be made for not killing anyone. Yet it seems likely that both the Lady and the Dominator holds a BP same as me meaning that I'll need 4 nights to kill them both unless I can get either lynched. I doubt this will be more than a 6 nights game (though one never knows I spose), meaning I should really start hunting for them right away. A good argument then for using my kill on night 1 as a find of sorts.

Hm, not knowing anyone is a bit of a problem as I have no points of reference until a black company man dies. From there on I should be able to find the others, but until then I'm running blind. I could try to put myself in a position where the black company members (if anyone knows my alt it would be Cutter and/or the Captain I suppose) have to come to my defence, but that's very risky and I can't know that my alt is know to anyone.

Which again makes it better to use my kill as the more identities are revealed the easier it will be to narrow down the pool of suspects. At the same time I'll probably benefit form a big pool of players to hide in until the two are dead.

Sigh..

Path-Shaper, on 27 June 2011 - 09:31 AM, said:

Don't you just love it?
I know I love it.

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Tellan, on 27 June 2011 - 10:44 AM, said:

Hmpf.. The main problem with faction games is the lack of incentive for doing anything on day 1. That's why I generally try to include a known single role which everyone can unite against. A FM or similar.

Ah well, it will loosen up on day 2 I reckon.

So far only Eloth has tried talking about faction distribution. Not entirely sure what it means yet, but it is a start.



Shinrei is worried about Catcher.

Osseric, on 27 June 2011 - 03:21 AM, said:

Cool. Two faction games in a row where I seem to be a leader.

So, who is Soulcatcher? A subordinate? An ally?

Path-Shaper, on 27 June 2011 - 10:42 AM, said:

Soulcatcher is one of the Taken.

Osseric, on 27 June 2011 - 12:45 PM, said:

well..the wiki says she plots against me. So I should try to lynch her then? :p


It's up to you who you try to lynch. :p

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Posted 27 June 2011 - 03:33 PM

Me making sure GH gets the joke vote thing

Path-Shaper, on 27 June 2011 - 02:41 PM, said:

View PostBarghast, on 27 June 2011 - 02:16 PM, said:

View PostKorbas, on 27 June 2011 - 11:04 AM, said:

we are one letter different.

to make things easier for everyone



vote korabas





View PostKorabas, on 27 June 2011 - 11:18 AM, said:

View PostKorbas, on 27 June 2011 - 11:04 AM, said:

we are one letter different.

to make things easier for everyone



vote korabas




you bastard

korbas



So to create a straw man for the the beating, I assume neither of these votes are relevant? or was PS's acceptance of them an indication of what is allowed?


I want to make sure that you understand the voting.
You can vote for every player alive for whatever reason you like, including joke votes like the above. You often get them day one until something happens to get one player lynched. They count as every other vote does.
You shouldn't place a joke vote on a player at a later day as you usually have for information to work with and look suspicious if you do.

I hope that helps you a bit.

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HO doesn't want to tell what he thinks just yet

Path-Shaper, on 27 June 2011 - 11:44 AM, said:

Galain, on 27 June 2011 - 11:34 AM, said:

I take this to mean I am roleless innocent, then?



Only if you consider the Rebel faction town.

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Galain, on 27 June 2011 - 02:38 PM, said:

Okay, vaguery is acknowledged... Did I miss something on thread to explain things I should know. You're making me nervous Tapper

Path-Shaper, on 27 June 2011 - 02:50 PM, said:

Well, that question is hard to answer since I don't know what you have noticed, but there isn't really anything you could have missed, if you have read the OP and your PM.

Liz

Galain, on 27 June 2011 - 02:51 PM, said:

Wait, if it's a faction game, town & scum aren't necessarilty relevant terms, right? So we aren't supposed to know who the factions are and what the victory conditions may be.


Path-Shaper, on 27 June 2011 - 02:53 PM, said:

I'd be delighted to hear some guesses from you. :p :p

Liz

Galain, on 27 June 2011 - 03:04 PM, said:

And spoil your delightful surprise? maybe later




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Posted 27 June 2011 - 07:50 PM

Path-Shaper, on 27 June 2011 - 09:10 AM, said:

Tellan, on 27 June 2011 - 08:28 AM, said:

but I waaaaant more information!



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This is just gold. With a big fat diamond in the middle.

In more serious news, I like how the thread is thinking. As for Morghy's comment about the known enemy, you mention the DOMINATOR in the OP. DOMINATOR DOMINATES IN DOMINATING WAYS WHILE EATING PIZZA AT DOMINATOR'S. What more of an enemy could you want?

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Posted 27 June 2011 - 07:52 PM

Also, I have a concert tomorrow evening, just got reminded of that by text. So I won't be here in the evening (can log in during the day from work) but I think you'll be alright with resolution, anyway :p

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Posted 27 June 2011 - 08:04 PM

View PostPath-Shaper, on 27 June 2011 - 07:50 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 27 June 2011 - 09:10 AM, said:

Tellan, on 27 June 2011 - 08:28 AM, said:

but I waaaaant more information!



Posted Image

This is just gold. With a big fat diamond in the middle.

In more serious news, I like how the thread is thinking. As for Morghy's comment about the known enemy, you mention the DOMINATOR in the OP. DOMINATOR DOMINATES IN DOMINATING WAYS WHILE EATING PIZZA AT DOMINATOR'S. What more of an enemy could you want?

- T.


I like it, too. I never realised that I completly left the BC out of the Op until it was mentioned on thread.


View PostPath-Shaper, on 27 June 2011 - 07:52 PM, said:

Also, I have a concert tomorrow evening, just got reminded of that by text. So I won't be here in the evening (can log in during the day from work) but I think you'll be alright with resolution, anyway :p

- T.


I'm not there in the morning and early afternoon, but I will try to check on the game before work.
I don't think the resolution is going to be a problem. :p

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Posted 28 June 2011 - 07:04 AM

Kurt is trageting Rebels.

Anthras, on 28 June 2011 - 05:02 AM, said:

OK, my provisional for Night One:

Kill Sorrit.

For being the first person to bring up the "the Lady can probably recruit" possibility. No one aligned with the Lady would want to be the first to drawn attention to that.

Alternate provisional -
If Sorrit is lynched and I don't get a chance to update:

Kill Mockra.

Seems unlikely to be Lady aligned, and tried to play down the Dominator a bit.

And for a brief spoiler entry: I think we're aligned 10:5:2 - 10 BC or Rebels or combination, 5 Lady/Taken, 2 Dominator/Symp. And I think that, if there's any attention to plot, the Symp has to awaken the Dominator, or at least there's a time constraint upon his powers. He's probably got a couple BPs, too, just to avoid dying too soon. Likely, the Lady has at least one. I still haven't decided if the BC & Rebels are a single faction, or if the BC is even in the game - it would be strange if they weren't.



noted

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Bent targets the Lady and will fail.

Liosan, on 28 June 2011 - 05:49 AM, said:

Lets try a provisional - enchant Osseric (I assume that its a night action, as this wasnt specified in the roles)

Also - do I have a kill ability? I can only be killed by someone of equal stature, I am assuming the Lady and the White Rose, but is the only way I can get them is to lynch or hope my recruits do it for me.

Grasping for straws, lol.


noted and no you don't have a kill.

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D'rek is spot on and going for the WR in her first find!

Rashan, on 28 June 2011 - 06:22 AM, said:

So many things I could correct on-thread, right now...

But no, I am going to stick to my strategy of playing low-key and (relatively) low-posts this game. I'm a finder in what is probably the biggest faction, gotta keep it on the down-low!


Night 1 - Find D'riss (back up: Osserc)




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Posted 28 June 2011 - 11:30 AM

Omtose, on 28 June 2011 - 09:30 AM, said:

well im going to

Provisional Kill HP


because of his ridiculous attack on eloth


but i will likely change that as it would probably draw even more attention to Eloth, and people would think he is the killer...



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Posted 28 June 2011 - 11:34 AM

Leaving this for you... My hunch would be to not allow full reveals but allowing abilities and their results to be revealed.

Eloth, on 28 June 2011 - 10:41 AM, said:

no game specific rules?

whats the deal with reveals?

Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
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