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#1 User is offline   Kalem Mekhar 

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Posted 24 May 2011 - 07:17 PM

I just finished read The Crippled God and loved it like the rest of the series, but I am not sure if I missed some things or nothing was concluded but was wondering if anyone knows if there will be anything that wraps up any of the storylines that didn't really get answered like How did tavore know everything that she knew, what happened to Silverfox, why did Laseen let herself be cornered by Korbolo Dom and then killed, what happened to Tayscheen, is Karsa Orlong going to still get his army and destroy the world, Someone in the Bonehunters(cant remember who) was looking for another Talon like he was did he ever find him, who were all the remaining Talons, what happened to Toc the Elder and does the Host going back to the Malazan Empire to take claim of it? If I missed any of these answer please let me know!
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Posted 24 May 2011 - 07:31 PM

Silverfox will be in Ian Cameron Esslemont's Assail book whenever that's released, Laseen, Korbolo Dom, Toc the Elder and Tayschrenn are all in ICE's Return of the Crimson Guard out now, there's going to be a trilogy focusing on Karsa going home that Erikson's doing after he finishes the Kharkanas trilogy (he's writing the first now), the other Talon Throatslitter was looking for was probably Tavore, and she probably knew a lot of events due to magic.
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Posted 24 May 2011 - 07:39 PM

Tavore mentioned she was a child of the Emperor. I was not sure if that's literal child of Kel himself.

Silverfox - I think she went to the Assail. Suppose to be another set of books about that area. There's still other FA around besides those who dies in TCG book.

I think Laseen was losing control of the Empire, so she took her own fight in her terms (stealth in the battler field)

Talon vs Claw organization is a nice concept, and definitely would be a ripe world for writing about assassin warfare

Toc the Elder hides well in the past, is there any motive for him to come out ever post Laseen death?

Tay and his visit to Chaos would be a nice story.

Karsa is suppose to be in the Tobalkai trilogy, rumor/fact?

Malick Rel is the Emperor, the Host is still Malazan Army. Not sure what happens to the Bonehunters.
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Posted 24 May 2011 - 08:17 PM

View PostSanctume, on 24 May 2011 - 07:39 PM, said:

Tavore mentioned she was a child of the Emperor. I was not sure if that's literal child of Kel himself.

Silverfox - I think she went to the Assail. Suppose to be another set of books about that area. There's still other FA around besides those who dies in TCG book.

I think Laseen was losing control of the Empire, so she took her own fight in her terms (stealth in the battler field)

Talon vs Claw organization is a nice concept, and definitely would be a ripe world for writing about assassin warfare

Toc the Elder hides well in the past, is there any motive for him to come out ever post Laseen death?

Tay and his visit to Chaos would be a nice story.

Karsa is suppose to be in the Tobalkai trilogy, rumor/fact?

Malick Rel is the Emperor, the Host is still Malazan Army. Not sure what happens to the Bonehunters.


Ooooh, I would use spoiler tag for events in Esselmonts novels, he clearly didnt read them.
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Posted 24 May 2011 - 08:26 PM

View PostSanctume, on 24 May 2011 - 07:39 PM, said:

Toc the Elder hides well in the past, is there any motive for him to come out ever post Laseen death?

I think it's fair to say that any motive sufficiently powerful enough to make Toc the Elder come back into the series after the events of The Return of the Crimson Guard would be one of staggering importance.
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Posted 24 May 2011 - 08:36 PM

View PostSanctume, on 24 May 2011 - 07:39 PM, said:

Tavore mentioned she was a child of the Emperor. I was not sure if that's literal child of Kel himself.

Silverfox - I think she went to the Assail. Suppose to be another set of books about that area. There's still other FA around besides those who dies in TCG book.

I think Laseen was losing control of the Empire, so she took her own fight in her terms (stealth in the battler field)

Talon vs Claw organization is a nice concept, and definitely would be a ripe world for writing about assassin warfare

Toc the Elder hides well in the past, is there any motive for him to come out ever post Laseen death?

Tay and his visit to Chaos would be a nice story.

Karsa is suppose to be in the Tobalkai trilogy, rumor/fact?

Malick Rel is the Emperor, the Host is still Malazan Army. Not sure what happens to the Bonehunters.

Karsa is the Toblakai trilogy!

Also, Toc Elder -
Spoiler


Tays is
Spoiler
so there's a good chance that we'll find out what happened to him.

Is the Host still a Malazan Army though? This and the Bonehunters fate, as well as where, or if, there are any more talons, are still up in the air.
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Posted 24 May 2011 - 08:59 PM

View PostSinisdar Toste, on 24 May 2011 - 08:36 PM, said:

Also, Toc Elder -
Spoiler

Aw man, way to ruin the subtlety of my joke. It would be funny if Toc the Elder had a Toc the Younger-style turn in ICE's books though.
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Posted 24 May 2011 - 09:18 PM

View PostSanctume, on 24 May 2011 - 07:39 PM, said:

Tavore mentioned she was a child of the Emperor. I was not sure if that's literal child of Kel himself.


Not literal. She's a Paran, sister of Ganoes & Felisin; I think someone would know if the Emperor had been shagging Mrs Paran. Also, I figure she'd have a bit darker colouring if that was the case, considering Kel was Dal Honese.
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Posted 24 May 2011 - 09:20 PM

View PostIlona, on 24 May 2011 - 09:18 PM, said:

View PostSanctume, on 24 May 2011 - 07:39 PM, said:

Tavore mentioned she was a child of the Emperor. I was not sure if that's literal child of Kel himself.


Not literal. She's a Paran, sister of Ganoes & Felisin; I think someone would know if the Emperor had been shagging Mrs Paran. Also, I figure she'd have a bit darker colouring if that was the case, considering Kel was Dal Honese.

...I just remembered the conversation about Kellanved's child back in TBH. If I'm remembering the dialogue right? Nice one, SE.
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Posted 25 May 2011 - 02:16 PM

Thank you everyone, I just read all the book of the fallen over the last year and did not even know about the Esselmont novels I will get into those asap and come back with questions about things that those books may not have answered, thank you.
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Posted 27 May 2011 - 04:56 AM

Speaking of unfinished storylines, whats up with Felisin's crippled army? Poliel is dead right? and the Crippled God returned to his world, so what are they going to do?

Also, is Leoman still chilling with the queen of dreams or is he dead or what?

Also, when did Picker come out of her dream state and how? (not really unfinished storyline, just curious if I missed where this was explained)
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Posted 27 May 2011 - 05:38 AM

View PostJingospice, on 27 May 2011 - 04:56 AM, said:

Speaking of unfinished storylines, whats up with Felisin's crippled army? Poliel is dead right? and the Crippled God returned to his world, so what are they going to do?

Also, is Leoman still chilling with the queen of dreams or is he dead or what?

Also, when did Picker come out of her dream state and how? (not really unfinished storyline, just curious if I missed where this was explained)

You mean Felisin Fatter? i imagine that salvation is now unaligned, like paran thought it would be.

Leoman - R-ICE-AFO

Picker leaves abruptly. blend returns from making seba krafar look like a fool and duiker tells her that picker woke up and bolted out the door. next we hear of her she's telling karsa he's gotta give the ol' chop chop to a war pig.
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Posted 27 May 2011 - 02:49 PM

View PostSinisdar Toste, on 27 May 2011 - 05:38 AM, said:

View PostJingospice, on 27 May 2011 - 04:56 AM, said:

Speaking of unfinished storylines, whats up with Felisin's crippled army? Poliel is dead right? and the Crippled God returned to his world, so what are they going to do?

Also, is Leoman still chilling with the queen of dreams or is he dead or what?

Also, when did Picker come out of her dream state and how? (not really unfinished storyline, just curious if I missed where this was explained)

You mean Felisin Fatter? i imagine that salvation is now unaligned, like paran thought it would be.

Leoman - R-ICE-AFO

Picker leaves abruptly. blend returns from making seba krafar look like a fool and duiker tells her that picker woke up and bolted out the door. next we hear of her she's telling karsa he's gotta give the ol' chop chop to a war pig.


Leoman - R - ICE- AFO?
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Posted 27 May 2011 - 02:50 PM

View PostJingospice, on 27 May 2011 - 04:56 AM, said:

Speaking of unfinished storylines, whats up with Felisin's crippled army? Poliel is dead right? and the Crippled God returned to his world, so what are they going to do?

Also, is Leoman still chilling with the queen of dreams or is he dead or what?

Also, when did Picker come out of her dream state and how? (not really unfinished storyline, just curious if I missed where this was explained)



I wish Corabb had a chance to confront Leoman one last time b4 th end
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Posted 27 May 2011 - 02:51 PM

View PostKalem Mekhar, on 27 May 2011 - 02:49 PM, said:

View PostSinisdar Toste, on 27 May 2011 - 05:38 AM, said:

View PostJingospice, on 27 May 2011 - 04:56 AM, said:

Speaking of unfinished storylines, whats up with Felisin's crippled army? Poliel is dead right? and the Crippled God returned to his world, so what are they going to do?

Also, is Leoman still chilling with the queen of dreams or is he dead or what?

Also, when did Picker come out of her dream state and how? (not really unfinished storyline, just curious if I missed where this was explained)

You mean Felisin Fatter? i imagine that salvation is now unaligned, like paran thought it would be.

Leoman - R-ICE-AFO

Picker leaves abruptly. blend returns from making seba krafar look like a fool and duiker tells her that picker woke up and bolted out the door. next we hear of her she's telling karsa he's gotta give the ol' chop chop to a war pig.


Leoman - R - ICE- AFO?


Read Esslemont's novels and you'll find out.

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Posted 27 May 2011 - 04:37 PM

RAFO = Read And Find Out, ICE = Ian Cameron Esslemont

combined to R-ICE-AFO, lol nice
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Posted 27 May 2011 - 04:43 PM

View PostSanctume, on 27 May 2011 - 04:37 PM, said:

RAFO = Read And Find Out, ICE = Ian Cameron Esslemont

combined to R-ICE-AFO, lol nice


LOL, very good
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Posted 30 May 2011 - 06:08 AM

tavore was the other talon b4 the bonehunter regulars last battle she had lostara il help her with her talon pendant....the worst part about the ending 4 me was having sinn turn out to be the ultimate baddie....talk bout plotline 360...was like he had run outta thread and threw that 1 in at the last second
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Posted 30 May 2011 - 06:16 AM

View Postergault, on 30 May 2011 - 06:08 AM, said:

tavore was the other talon b4 the bonehunter regulars last battle she had lostara il help her with her talon pendant....the worst part about the ending 4 me was having sinn turn out to be the ultimate baddie....talk bout plotline 360...was like he had run outta thread and threw that 1 in at the last second


i spent 9 1000page books thinking the crippled gods destruction was the main plot...only to find 2/3rds the way thru the final book that his salvation was now our principal characters main objective....only to have that notion thwarted by said gods murder...typical erickson
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Posted 30 May 2011 - 08:57 AM

View Postergault, on 30 May 2011 - 06:08 AM, said:

tavore was the other talon b4 the bonehunter regulars last battle she had lostara il help her with her talon pendant....the worst part about the ending 4 me was having sinn turn out to be the ultimate baddie....talk bout plotline 360...was like he had run outta thread and threw that 1 in at the last second



We never know -for sure- that Sinn was going to double-cross everyone and steal the heart. It's just a conclusion gesler and stormy made because she was so damned scary and inhuman. For all we know she mighta smiled and lobbed the heart up to the Shi'gal assassin after a nice Forkrul Flambe.
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