Korabas and stuff

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Posted 09 May 2011 - 12:21 PM

So I've really fallen behind on the TCG forum lately and I've no idea if this was explained already, but one thing bothers me:

Since Korabas was instrumental in breaking Kaminsod's chains... was Errastas and Kilmandros freeing her a part of Tavore's/Hood's/Cottilion's plan all along? How could they be sure of that? Isn't it a bit of a stretch?
Or am I missing something big here?

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Posted 09 May 2011 - 01:08 PM

ST/Cot/Hood knew the EG were planning something and I presume they assumed that it was going to have something to do with with the OD. Being the Chessmaster he is, SST used this to his own advantage.

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Posted 09 May 2011 - 01:20 PM

Yeah, I think the elder gods just wanted destruction and chaos - but some little nudges tipped the balance in the favour of those freeing the CG, such as the Hust sword given to Silchas Ruin and ST telling Draconus to keep away, etc. Some things do seem to fall into the coincidental category. At no point in Korabas' flight when we feel her thoughts is she like "I'm heading towards that barrow over there," or anything. She just kinda flies in to the right spot. Call it convergeance, I guess.

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Posted 09 May 2011 - 01:21 PM

I feel as though SE could have used 50 more pages really well in this book to flesh out the climax a bit more.

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Posted 09 May 2011 - 01:22 PM

Tatterdemalion, on 09 May 2011 - 01:20 PM, said:

Yeah, I think the elder gods just wanted destruction and chaos - but some little nudges tipped the balance in the favour of those freeing the CG, such as the Hust sword given to Silchas Ruin and ST telling Draconus to keep away, etc. Some things do seem to fall into the coincidental category. At no point in Korabas' flight when we feel her thoughts is she like "I'm heading towards that barrow over there," or anything. She just kinda flies in to the right spot. Call it convergeance, I guess.

Actually,yes. She's attracted by the Adjunct 's otataral sword.

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Posted 09 May 2011 - 08:58 PM

I think it's one of the things ST and Cots have seen through their Azath travels, or perhaps even something Tayschrenn saw for the future. It's not something they forced or nudged into happening, it's something they knew would happen and incorporated into their plans.

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Posted 10 May 2011 - 05:09 AM

Tatterdemalion, on 09 May 2011 - 01:21 PM, said:

I feel as though SE could have used 50 more pages really well in this book to flesh out the climax a bit more.

Totally agree. A lot of story lines were either dropped, or very hastily concluded.

Admittedly this cliff hanger style is what has kept me ready Erikson's books for the past 10 years, but in a final book? Doesn't work so well.

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Posted 10 May 2011 - 05:27 AM

TheConsult, on 10 May 2011 - 05:09 AM, said:

Tatterdemalion, on 09 May 2011 - 01:21 PM, said:

I feel as though SE could have used 50 more pages really well in this book to flesh out the climax a bit more.

well, those that seemingly 'ended' unsatisfactorily, or didn't really end at all, will hopefully have repercussions in the next two trilogies and ICE's work. perhaps in this, erikson has made tCG feel less like a true ending, and more of simply another transition, which is what it is in the reality of the malazan world. there are unfinished stories and mysteries that seemingly must be addressed (like who is edgewalker? where is father light? are the two connected GODDAMNIT? ahem. sorry bout that), and all i can see this meaning to me is there is a good chance we will have another ten years of mind-blowing malazan books. that sounds like one of the best things i can think of.

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Posted 10 May 2011 - 02:51 PM

Sinisdar Toste, on 10 May 2011 - 05:27 AM, said:

TheConsult, on 10 May 2011 - 05:09 AM, said:

Tatterdemalion, on 09 May 2011 - 01:21 PM, said:

I feel as though SE could have used 50 more pages really well in this book to flesh out the climax a bit more.

I don't care much about dropped storylines or wanting more information - I'm actually quite content to let my imagination fill in the details. Not all stories end with death, marriage or retirement. I had no problem with the Apsalar Crokus scene in tCG but I was also perfectly fine with NOT having it, their plot concluded to me when Cutter realized he had to go back to find her. It was a great ending which occured in the middle. I'm not even that particularly excited about more upcoming novels (though I will be when I read them) because I like how final the story of tCG was - I just wish we'd gotten it a little thicker.

And yes, my bad on the sword thing. I kinda knew as I was writing that that there would be an answer, but instead of asking I just made a claim? Silly.

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