[Cyphon]

Just think Cicero, we could of had..... THIS IS STORMS END!

[Ceda Cicero]

Cyphon, on 21 June 2011 - 05:49 PM, said:

Just think Cicero, we could of had..... THIS IS STORMS END!

Haha, exactly. The Game of Thrones equivalent to what Treme does would be if every conversation between characters ended with "DAMN! AIN'T NO WHERE LIKE KING'S LANDING!" or "NOBODY UNDERSTANDS WHAT IT'S LIKE TO LIVE IN THE EYRIE!"

[Jade-Green Pig-Hog Swine-Beast]

Just saw this and it's pretty awesome:

[Tapper]

well, watched it. Not disappointed, although in a way, it was not so much a finale as a real good set-up for season 2. First episode where Arya isn't totally stealing the show, however, Emilia "I don't want your screams, I want your death" Clarke was turning in one of her better performances, and that's saying something after really starting to nail the role from ep 2 or 3 onwards. As was Jason Momoa....

It's hard to say what the high point of the episode was.... Roz being bored by Pycelle was awesome. Rambling old bore. Varys vs Littlefinger was good, but for all the snideness it lacked subtlety and edges, it was more of a bludgeon.

Tyrion was cool as always, and i even felt a tiny pang of sympathy for Tywin. King in the North was good, so was citing the oath around Jon - that's his last whining moment ever, if I am not mistaken. Yet it was not the high.

Hmmm. Y'know what? I'll settle for Jaime being Jaime. He was incredibly in control in that scene with Cat. OK, I'll make it a tie with Sansa, whose one extended cut-in-two scene (apart from the rather incredibly awesome fainting right at the start) just was a real rough ride. That girl is going to be a star actress in a couple of years. Not to mention, a shining example for just about every ginger girl from 10 on.

Also, I liked the dragon animation.

[Abyss]

A petty thing but it's bugging me... does anyone recall whether in the books Dany's three dragons have four legs and wings, or two legs and 'front-limb wings' as they had in the finale?

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Abyss, on 21 June 2011 - 08:15 PM, said:

A petty thing but it's bugging me... does anyone recall whether in the books Dany's three dragons have four legs and wings, or two legs and 'front-limb wings' as they had in the finale?

I dunno if it's touched on much, at least not in ACOK which was my most recent read. Though I'd wager front limb wings...since GRRM has had so much input, and there's no reason NOT to make them the way he sees them. No logistic reason anyways. It would cost the same amount to make them look different.

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Abyss, on 21 June 2011 - 08:15 PM, said:

A petty thing but it's bugging me... does anyone recall whether in the books Dany's three dragons have four legs and wings, or two legs and 'front-limb wings' as they had in the finale?

I know the card-game material depicted the Targaryen coat of arms with frontlimb wings on just about every drawing as well as on the cards representing the dragons themselves. Since it was licensed as well by GRRM, I guess he pointed them in the right direction.

[Ceda Cicero]

For anyone who didn't see it on news sites yesterday while the board was down, Natalie Dormer, who played Ann Boleyn in THE TUDORS, has been cast as Margaery Tyrell.

I say total win. She's got mad skillz and IMO she looks the part, despite being significantly older. I think the aging up will work especially well in this case, since we're probably going to be seeing a lot more of the Tyrell's plotting and scheming with Renly in season 2 than we did in ACoK. Also it wouldn't work at all, IMO, to have a doe-eyed, virginal 16 year old girl playing Margaery when season 4 or 5 rolls around and she starts edging into the arena with Cersei/Lena Headley.

[Abyss]

The beauty of the series is that the dragons aren't actually in it all that much, so they don't have to do what they did with the dire wolves and keep cutting them out of parts where they were awesome in the books.

Iirc from here on except for some appearances sitting around looking draconic, there's only one major dragon scene in the third book (setting wizards on fire or something).

[Ceda Cicero]

Abyss, on 27 June 2011 - 02:16 PM, said:

The beauty of the series is that the dragons aren't actually in it all that much, so they don't have to do what they did with the dire wolves and keep cutting them out of parts where they were awesome in the books.

Iirc from here on except for some appearances sitting around looking draconic, there's only one major dragon scene in the third book (setting wizards on fire or something).

Yeah there's the scene in ASoS where Drogon goes all dracarys on the slavemasters in Astapor and melts their faces off. But also in book 2 (and most likely season 2) Drogon goes apeshit in the House of the Undying, and it's the only reason Dany makes it out alive. That whole sequence may be one of their trickiest so far, not only because of the fucking dragons but because it's full of all sorts of other crazy things that will require complex CGI, not to mention the flashback/vision sequences of Rhaegar et al. It will be interesting to see how they translate that to screen.

[End of Disc One]

If the series survives several seasons the dragons will surely be an issue. Here's an image from the Sub Press edition of ADwD (spoilers I guess): http://www.facebook....38780583&type=1

It could be the artist wildly exagerrated the size though, since dragons should take a lot longer to grow. GRRM could have said "fuck it" though, since he couldn't get the 5 year gap to work.

[Ceda Cicero]

End of Disc One, on 27 June 2011 - 02:25 PM, said:

If the series survives several seasons the dragons will surely be an issue. Here's an image from the Sub Press edition of ADwD (spoilers I guess): http://www.facebook....38780583&type=1

It could be the artist wildly exagerrated the size though, since dragons should take a lot longer to grow. GRRM could have said "fuck it" though, since he couldn't get the 5 year gap to work.

I'm fairly certain it's the former. IIRC, in one of the preview Dany chapters GRRM has read at signings etc

Spoiler

Drogon - the largest - is described as being roughly the size of a large mule.

However, that's an early chapter, and who's to say they don't hit a massive growth spurt over the course of this next volume.

[Abyss]

HBO showed themselves to be fairly adept at keeping the story whole but streamlined, so i suspect we'll get one 'major' dragon moment in the second season, and perhaps the odd mini-appearance.

Strictly speaking, S2 has... three? four? serious expense scenes...... a number of battles we'll probably hear about third hand or just see the aftermath of, and there's the shadow killing Renly and the dragons in the house of Undying, both sfx heavy, and the Blackwater, which will probably be our one major battle scene assuming HBo goes bog and springs for the appropriate number of 'splosions, burning ships and casts of thousands charging at each other with pointy things.

[worry]

Rumor mill: Christopher Eccleston as Stannis

http://blastr.com/20...day-game-of.php

[Werthead]

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A petty thing but it's bugging me... does anyone recall whether in the books Dany's three dragons have four legs and wings, or two legs and 'front-limb wings' as they had in the finale?

Two back legs and two front-limb wings in the books, though quite a few illustrations and takes on the heraldry are wrong and show six limbs. It's one of the things that drives GRRM nuts if you get talking to him about it at a convention, as he points out that six-limbed animals are freaking weird and rare in nature. It's usually four and only more than that if you get into insect/arachnid territory.

So yeah, I suspect GRRM really emphasised this. I know that HBO produced a whole load of Targaryen banners with the wrong number of limbs, then someone pointed out the mistake and they junked them and had to make a load more with the correct number on them.

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worrywort, on 28 June 2011 - 01:17 AM, said:

Rumor mill: Christopher Eccleston as Stannis

http://blastr.com/20...day-game-of.php

That would be fitting, I think.

[Traveller]

Werthead, on 28 June 2011 - 01:27 AM, said:

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A petty thing but it's bugging me... does anyone recall whether in the books Dany's three dragons have four legs and wings, or two legs and 'front-limb wings' as they had in the finale?

Two back legs and two front-limb wings in the books, though quite a few illustrations and takes on the heraldry are wrong and show six limbs. It's one of the things that drives GRRM nuts if you get talking to him about it at a convention, as he points out that six-limbed animals are freaking weird and rare in nature. It's usually four and only more than that if you get into insect/arachnid territory.

So yeah, I suspect GRRM really emphasised this. I know that HBO produced a whole load of Targaryen banners with the wrong number of limbs, then someone pointed out the mistake and they junked them and had to make a load more with the correct number on them.

Also, (like me) he thinks that the dragon Vermithrax from 'Dragonslayer' is one of the best movie dragons ever, so I expect he based his own around that. (Great shot in that film as it stalks towards the camera on its folded wings).

This post has been edited by Traveller: 28 June 2011 - 07:47 AM

[Cyphon]

Christoper Ecclestone could be a better Balon Greyjoy I reckon.

I still want Gerald Butler as Stannis .

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Cyphon, on 28 June 2011 - 11:36 AM, said:

Christoper Ecclestone could be a better Balon Greyjoy I reckon.

I still want Gerald Butler as Stannis .

Agreed, and Eccelstone's Northern accent is thick....Stannis was raised in the south...and they've already made a northern southern casting thing by having Bean as Ned. That's a nitpick, as I love Eccelstone as an actor, but I agree he'd be better as someone else...though maybe not Balon since Balon is already supposed to be white haired and whiskered by the time Theon returns to the Pyke. Maybe save him for Euron or Victarion.

[QuickTidal]

Also....ummm....DROOOOOL



Should I have watched the TUDORS? This chick is HOOOOOTTTTTTT!