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Tapper and Bent discuss their options... which way will it go?!

Eloth, on 03 May 2011 - 07:52 AM, said:

Tulas Shorn, on 03 May 2011 - 01:17 AM, said:

Eloth, Merrid wants to out Karatallid tonight. I am considering doing so. but I want your input. I have a feeling that Liosan, Ruse and Kara brought in Alkend for the same reasons we brought in Venge.

If we vote off Kara now, we still have the numbers. right?

If we vote with them, we take out Kara, and still have a majority to take out, Serc, Ano, and Alkend.

We keep Merrid, take out Liosan and Ruse as planned. It would be the perfect time for this.

Let me know what you think.

My main problem is that Serc suggests to me to only do it with the 4 Dureza's and you and me, dropping Okaros. That puts us in a really weak position as we'll have to maintain this afterwards for protection, yet the Dureza's can drop us whenever they like.

I also heard from Merrid that Kara is suggesting voting me off to the Dureza's. Not sure if I believe that.
Also, Merrid and Serc are thick as thieves. They consistently feed me the exact same info.

I'm steering towards voting off a different Dureza than Serc, then ally with Serc, Merrid and one of their choice, plus you, me and Okaros.... but I'll have to read up with who we can make the final. If that is five, then it will have to be you, me, Okaros, Serc, Merrid. It will also limit the amount of betrayal and bullshitting they'll have to do, and the amount of time we'll be facing opposition from fellow Penderosa's.

Eloth, on 03 May 2011 - 08:09 AM, said:

Okaros badly wants to push a Lio lynch. I disagree about timing, but what about you?

Tulas Shorn, on 03 May 2011 - 11:34 AM, said:

I really think we need to vote off Kara right now - Venge broke off contact with Kara to approach Serc because of me. Deruza is willing to go against Kara and with your and my votes, they have the numbers to do so - without you or me, they cant do it.

We have a 2 vote lead right now, so if we take out Kara venge as agreed to vote with you and I from then on. we maintain a 2 vote lead, if not, and venge goes the other way we still have the Pensador voting block.

I have an ability to find out who 1 person voted for at each tribal council, after they vote. I have to vote after them, but I can make Merrid vote first, and find out which way he votes, after the Kara vote. Its up to you though, I just believe that now is the time to shore up our defenses and take out Kara.

Eloth, on 03 May 2011 - 12:33 PM, said:

Tulas Shorn, on 03 May 2011 - 11:34 AM, said:

I really think we need to vote off Kara right now - Venge broke off contact with Kara to approach Serc because of me. Deruza is willing to go against Kara and with your and my votes, they have the numbers to do so - without you or me, they cant do it.

We have a 2 vote lead right now, so if we take out Kara venge as agreed to vote with you and I from then on. we maintain a 2 vote lead, if not, and venge goes the other way we still have the Pensador voting block.

I have an ability to find out who 1 person voted for at each tribal council, after they vote. I have to vote after them, but I can make Merrid vote first, and find out which way he votes, after the Kara vote. Its up to you though, I just believe that now is the time to shore up our defenses and take out Kara.

Dureza is going for Lio, we have no chance without them. I wish I had had more time to orchestrate things, but oh well
We can deal with Kara afterwards if need be. Today's vote will be a closer, no matter in what direction.

Tapper relays info to Venge. He's being pretty honest with both sides right now, that earns a lot of cred in the jury. Also, have they swung the lynch onto Liosan?!

Eloth, on 03 May 2011 - 08:04 AM, said:

Merrid, on 02 May 2011 - 05:54 PM, said:

Your kidding right.... Oh serc is going to play along with silencer but with your, tulas, and okaros help we will send either Kara or liosan home. Shit with out okaros we can still keep you and send one of them home.

Yeah. But Okaros has been our counterweight to the other three Ps since before we merged. If we drop him or give him the silent treatment now, he'll go to the others with our plans.

Secondly, while I think you do see me and TS as your best path to victory, this is mafia and I know you. And D'rek, to a certain extent. I'm not too comfortable with joining you guys with 2 of us and 4 of you. Might be I might end up as the last judge before the finale - and the other two of us more or less think the same.

I want a 3-3 even split between Dureza and Penderosa. That way, we can make the finale and decide it all with stones, leaving it to fate. Unfortunately, that means that one of you still has to go before we can cross over. On the other hand, it will leave hostilities on thread to a very short period, as well as all the double crossing.

The Kara-Lio-Ruse plan is currently to vote Serc. The other two agree D'rek has been a tad bit too volatile on thread and think Alkend and/or Ano may be more docile. I disagree, so am steering away from voting her, but that means Alkend as Ano is immune.

Eloth, on 03 May 2011 - 08:10 AM, said:

damned be all these fast changes.
Okaros wants to vote Lio, I have asked TS for his opinion.

Merrid, on 03 May 2011 - 11:39 AM, said:

Oh I understand not wanting to go into as a 4 on 2. I don't want to either. Our original plan was for a 3 v.s. 3.

If you think that you can talk Okaros into a liosan lynch I will get Serc to go along with it.

Eloth, on 03 May 2011 - 12:34 PM, said:

Merrid, on 03 May 2011 - 11:39 AM, said:

Oh I understand not wanting to go into as a 4 on 2. I don't want to either. Our original plan was for a 3 v.s. 3.

If you think that you can talk Okaros into a liosan lynch I will get Serc to go along with it.

Okaros is along. I am along. Serc seems along, too.

Here's where Okaros is convincing Tapper to vote Liosan.

Okaros, on 03 May 2011 - 07:18 AM, said:

What do you want to do? I am going to hold my vote until you get back to me, the masses are gearing towards a Serc lynch, I am not in contact with Serc but I am with you, are we going to keep Serc in so we can get rid of Liosan or are we going to vote Serc out and put their team into a lot of disarray

Eloth, on 03 May 2011 - 07:44 AM, said:

If we don't vote along with the Dureza's, they will not trust us after this.
But if we vote off a Pensadore, we'll be in a minority against the others.

If we join with Dureza, I want to do so from a position of strength. That means we have to thin them out some more. I'd prefer getting rid of Ano tho. Serc is a smart player with a lot of ability, that's an asset.

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More Tap and Tat.

Okaros, on 03 May 2011 - 07:47 AM, said:

The way I see it is you can listen to my conversations. I have had no problem with this at all. keep on reading them, as I won't say anything off thread to anyone else that I would not let you know. I am thinking that we vote off Liosan right now, he is a threat to me more than anyone else, I am part of the faction with you and Tulas but Ruse and Kartallidad who are alligned think I am part of theirs. Ruse has an ability to increase Kartallidad's abilities that is why they are so tight nit, ruse told me earlier on. The other one who is more tight nit is Lio, so if he goes then my position amongst them is more prominent. Now I have mentioned to Merrid to vote off Liosan, if you do the same with Serc then we should have the numbers to vote off Liosan. Or do you think this play is too early? We will still end up with 5 of us against 4 of them (dureza) but it will shake things up a little. What are your thoughts?

Okaros, on 03 May 2011 - 07:50 AM, said:

We also cannot vote off Ano as he is immune. Although I would definately agree he should go at the earliest opportunity. The way I see it is we vote off Lio, then Ano with Serc and Merrid's help. We have an alliance of you, me, tulas, merrid and serc, we keep this allaince until it is us left and we then kill off serc then merrid. Leaving me you and tulas left. What do you think?

Eloth, on 03 May 2011 - 07:57 AM, said:

I think it is too early. Also, at this point in time, Serc (who very much is one of their leaders) wants only me and TS to join them as that would make 6 votes, because she considers you too flightly. Removing another Dureza would limit that option and would cement your place in the alliance. My pref would be Alkend to be voted off. I agree on the other 3 Penderosa's being tight as siamese twins.

Okaros, on 03 May 2011 - 08:03 AM, said:

Right, someone said earlier that that person has an ability to sever communications. So do not mention his name. Your name is being mentioned by Ruse, they think they can make a play on you, take away Liosan and it strengthens our alliance. I do not think you can get to Alkend at this minute, so vote for Lio, the best way, tell Serc to as well

Eloth, on 03 May 2011 - 08:08 AM, said:

I'll go to TS with this info, then get back to you.

Okaros, on 03 May 2011 - 08:10 AM, said:

How long before he replies? Is he your leader or is it a consultative approach?

Eloth, on 03 May 2011 - 08:13 AM, said:

Consultative. He looks to me, but if we do this, I really want that we do it with 3 of us. I'm not going to backstab or misinform people I make a play with for the final, and TS was my first ally and the guy who agreed with me that we wanted you on board. He has played it straight, too.


If he doesn't get back to me before the TC, I will vote Lio along with you. With 4 dureza's, that should be enough. Currently contacting Merrid and Serc with the updated info.

Okaros, on 03 May 2011 - 08:49 AM, said:

Okay cool, that sounds good to me. I will await Ts' reply

Okaros, on 03 May 2011 - 09:52 AM, said:

They are definately considering you next, once "serc" goes. The best way would be to chop them down so that there are 2 of them. Then we go for Ano.

What do you think about numbers or code? When you want to finally vote a follower we would need something to give people a heads up. How about each number 1 -26 represents a letter of the alphabet?

Okaros, on 03 May 2011 - 11:49 AM, said:

Merrid and Serc are onboard to vote for Liosan, that leave me you and TS. I know Kara is strongly against voting off Liosan as they are best buds, and Ruse doesn't want to go against Kara yet! So them 3 will be voting for Serc. However, You me TS Serc Merrid will all be voting Liosan. Leaving Ano and Alkend as unknowns. To get Barghy and Kalse to vote with us, I have posted to Jeff asking him if I can say this on thread

I would very much like a Pensador on the jury, it would even things out a little. I nominate Liosan

If I can then I will say it so that Kalse and Barghy know who to vote for also. This puts me on the line but with you behind me I am not bothered. This will also keep you hidden. Thoughts?

Eloth, on 03 May 2011 - 12:32 PM, said:

Coding is not necessary, I think.
I'm happy doing what we do. Dureza is going to vote as a block.

Okaros, on 03 May 2011 - 12:48 PM, said:

So are we voting as a block against Serc?

Eloth, on 03 May 2011 - 01:01 PM, said:

No, we vote Liosan.

Don't tell me you already voted? Pweez?

Also, I seem unable to get into the TC forum.

Okaros, on 03 May 2011 - 01:07 PM, said:

The TC forum password is "prolonged".

I haven't voted yet. I was going to say I will still vote Liosan Serc would be the wrong choice

HiddenOne wants to look at Karatallid for fun... it may be the last thing he does.

Liosan, on 03 May 2011 - 01:40 PM, said:

Use my Obvious Deduction to check up on Karatallid (just for fun!) when voting this time.

I can't find the password for Tribal Council. Help!

Lizra opens the voting and adds some extra stuff.

Ruse, on 03 May 2011 - 01:58 PM, said:

vote Serc

Message: Sorry, Serc, but I think you are the best choice right now.

Ruse, on 03 May 2011 - 02:09 PM, said:

If I'm not voted out at TC
provisional search hidden immunity idol

I'm flying home so, I will likely be off for a day or more.
If there is another TC at that time and I don't menage to show up
vote Ano Message: Too bad you didn't win the immunity this time, too. But winning it twice in a row just made you a perfect target.

if he gets the immunity a third time
vote Eloth Message: Sorry Eloth, but with your ability to listen into conversations you are far to dangerous to be kept around.

Of course, if I show up then will probably redecide.

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DKT breaking off with Karat?

Anomandaris, on 03 May 2011 - 02:35 PM, said:

bugger....ive got some kind of communication break down with my alliances over here!!...

Gonna have to break this link with you till its fixed....aaaait??!

Later dude!

Tattersail relays to Vengey the vote is for Liosan.

Okaros, on 03 May 2011 - 09:29 AM, said:

After speaking with one of my allies on the other side we are able to get at least 2 votes for Lio, this with you and Serc and your team we will be able to vote off Liosan. The other choice is voting off a dureza which I don't want to do at this stage. I will know in a little while if we are to get another 2 votes from Pensador to vote of Lio.

Merrid, on 03 May 2011 - 11:43 AM, said:

Sorry I was asleep and have a ton of messages now. I haven't been trying to hide anything. But mostly I play from my phone at work and it is hard to pass things along.

My thoughts are for 3 of you guys and 3 of us to go into the final 6. There are several reasons for this 1. If the jury is predominately one tribe or the other then that will weigh on the final vote. But if there is a split then that will be better for everyone. Second while I trust some of my durza allies (serc) there are others whom I am not so sure of.

I will get serc on board for liosan

Okaros, on 03 May 2011 - 11:45 AM, said:

You should be coming online soon, I will announce on thread that I will vote Liosan, this will show Barghy and Kalse who to vote for, this would bunk up the votes, what do you think? I will say this...

I would very much like a Pensador on the jury, it would even things out a little. I nominate Liosan

If jeff lets me, I have sent a PM to him to ask if this is okay. If it is then you will know I am not bull shitting you, That would make us have majority of votes, what are your thoughts?

Okaros, on 03 May 2011 - 12:50 PM, said:

I'm getting allsorts of different vibes from various places, it looks as though Dureza want to vote as a block, I am ready to still vote Lio. Are you going to have Ano and Alkend behind you and Serc, if so then i'll give you majority

Merrid, on 03 May 2011 - 01:13 PM, said:

I think that durza is going to vote as a block for liosan. With you and your ally then we will send lio to the jury... The last I had heard about ano was that he was going for challenger. He might have crossed over to deciever after though.

Okaros, on 03 May 2011 - 01:27 PM, said:

How sure of you on this? Ano that is, has Alkend got an alliance with him? Does he back that up? Anyway I am voting for Liosan, 100%. Hopefully the rest of you will too

DKT frustrated.

Anomandaris, on 03 May 2011 - 02:38 PM, said:

Fucking people cant make up their minds!!



Break Alliance Karat!


Forge Alliance Liosan

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Venge and Serc talk over their plans.

Merrid, on 03 May 2011 - 11:36 AM, said:

Tulas hasn't said shit about giving you the idol. I don't even know if he has it. So I wouldn't count on anything there.

Serc, on 03 May 2011 - 01:02 PM, said:

That's what I figured.

Merrid, on 03 May 2011 - 01:15 PM, said:

Eloth says thst he doesn't want to break up his alliance with okaros by voting off Kara right now. So he wants to lynch liosan. That is what I am going with.

Serc, on 03 May 2011 - 01:20 PM, said:

I don't see why voting Kara would break his alliance with Okar...?

Merrid, on 03 May 2011 - 02:24 PM, said:

No eloth is worried that okoras will break off from him and tulas with no Kara. Leaving eloth and tulas pairing with the 4 of us. Which the don't like as then they would be in our power... So in order to keep eloth and tulas we need to make okaros happy for now.

Serc, on 03 May 2011 - 02:39 PM, said:

Alright, makes sense I guess. I'm not exactly happy about it, but I suppose I can accept voting Lio.

Merrid, on 03 May 2011 - 02:49 PM, said:

I'm not happy either. But we need to get their numbers down both to make our selves more important and to stay alive longer.

More discussion from the GB Groupthink.

Anomandaris, on 03 May 2011 - 11:17 AM, said:

anyways....yea im happy voting for Karat

And with Finding out who eloth os voting for.

Serc....how confident are you that he will flip?

Serc, on 03 May 2011 - 01:13 PM, said:

Gah, now Eloth wants to vote Lio instead of Karat. I'm debating it with him, since I think it's better to vote Karat, but looks like he'll definitely be on board since we're only debating between those two

Anomandaris, on 03 May 2011 - 01:27 PM, said:

Definitely karat... tell him the vote for karat is already in motion!!

Anomandaris, on 03 May 2011 - 01:28 PM, said:

Tell him that we had to sever a connection with merrid and Alkend and that the last thing we spoke about was voting karat so it has to be him...

Merrid, on 03 May 2011 - 02:16 PM, said:

This what I got. The eloth and okaros alliance is strong. Both are connected to Kara and are worried that if the lynch Kara now the other one will run to ruse and liosan and tulas with all of there plans. So they are down with taking out lio but not Kara. We don't have it to take out Kara on our own. I am inclined to get them more in our camp by lynching lio.

Merrid, on 03 May 2011 - 02:20 PM, said:

Thst should read that there alliance isn't strong...

I hate my phone.

Anomandaris, on 03 May 2011 - 02:24 PM, said:

well....now what? are we changing to lio then?

Merrid, on 03 May 2011 - 02:30 PM, said:

That is what I am going with. We can't split their vote yet and come out with a solid block so we need a couple of them for at least another lynch.

Anomandaris, on 03 May 2011 - 02:33 PM, said:

ok tell them we are down with a lio lynch then... We going to need Alkend to confirm who they vote for aswell before we lay ours down.

Serc, on 03 May 2011 - 02:41 PM, said:

Okay, I told Eloth I'd pass word along to vote Lio instead.

Any idea what will happen if we all haven't voted by the end of the 16 hours? Will Alkend still be able to read Eloth's vote and tell us?

Anomandaris, on 03 May 2011 - 02:42 PM, said:

normally all on thread comms end....but i dont know about here.... he should be able to...i hope

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Serc, on 03 May 2011 - 02:48 PM, said:

Well let's make up a signal, then!

If we lose communication, we all wait until Eloth votes. Then Alkend reads Eloth's vote and votes himself, changing the way he says it on-thread according to what the result was:

If Eloth voted for Liosan:

Quote

Voted

If Eloth voted for Merrid

Quote

voted

If Eloth voted for Serc:

Quote

Voted.

If Eloth voted for Anomander:

Quote

voted.

If Eloth voted for Alkend:

Quote

Voted!

If Eloth voted for Karat:

Quote

voted!

If Eloth voted for someone else:

Quote

I have voted

Anomandaris, on 03 May 2011 - 02:51 PM, said:

yes thats perfect!!

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Okaros, on 03 May 2011 - 11:43 AM, said:

Can I say this in the tribal council thread?

I would very much like a Pensador on the jury, it would even things out a little. I nominate Liosan

Okaros, on 03 May 2011 - 11:52 AM, said:

I'm playing a dangerous game at the minute, I am siding with the other side, I am also in 2 factions within Pensador. I think Eloth's is the strongest but Ruse' more trustworthy. Except I don't trust Kara until Lio has gone, once Lio has gone I will be in a stronger position. If I survive this vote I will be in a good position I think. Going into the endgame with a few people in and around me. I think I am understanding the game a lot more, I am not very good at being shifty and manipulating people. Good Morning btw I know you will get this when you get up

Okaros, on 03 May 2011 - 02:40 PM, said:

Vote Liosan

Okaros, on 03 May 2011 - 02:46 PM, said:

@Lio

Lio I wanted to be a more important member of Dureza, either allied with Kara and Ruse or TS and Eloth, for this to happen you had to go. I allied with Serc and Merrid to get rid of you, then my plan was to move on to Alkend and Ano before deciding on which group to stay with. I may even go ahead and remove Kara before then

Okaros, on 03 May 2011 - 02:56 PM, said:

If I use Rally Cry on the next challenge do I get +1 Morale? I am at poor morale now is that right? As we gained one just before the challenge?

Tapper to Serc on the plan to remove Liosan.

Eloth, on 03 May 2011 - 07:48 AM, said:

Sounds like a plan... except it will make Okaros reconsider.
Secondly, I do not really like being at an uneven footing with 4 dureza's and only 2 of us Penderosa's - means we're going to be slaughtered the second the others have more to offer to you.
If a Dureza had to be voted off, who would have your preference?

Eloth, on 03 May 2011 - 08:16 AM, said:

OK. Okaros suggests you guys and him and me vote Liosan. I can live with that, but if we do that, I want TS on board as well - he has been my ally since day 1 and played it straight and honest with me the entire game. I am not going to leave him in the lurch.

I promised Okaros I would vote Lio if TS does not get back or disagrees with me. That means enough votes for Lio, no?

Serc, on 03 May 2011 - 01:09 PM, said:

Eloth, on 03 May 2011 - 07:48 AM, said:

Serc, on 03 May 2011 - 03:37 AM, said:

You know, you may want to avoid telling Okaros, actually. He's such a wild-card, I'm on the fence if we can trust him not to tell Karat on this. If you and Tulas both vote Karat, that'll be 6 with us Durezas and we won't need Okaros anyways, so maybe it's better to leave him in the dark on this one...

Sounds like a plan... except it will make Okaros reconsider.
Secondly, I do not really like being at an uneven footing with 4 dureza's and only 2 of us Penderosa's - means we're going to be slaughtered the second the others have more to offer to you.
If a Dureza had to be voted off, who would have your preference?

That 4 durezas won't last. Right now we're faced with extinction if Pensador continues to vote together against us but as soon as the votes show that that is no longer the case it's going to be up in the air who's siding with who. Though me and Merrid want to stick with you guys

Eloth, on 03 May 2011 - 08:16 AM, said:

OK. Okaros suggests you guys and him and me vote Liosan. I can live with that, but if we do that, I want TS on board as well - he has been my ally since day 1 and played it straight and honest with me the entire game. I am not going to leave him in the lurch.

I promised Okaros I would vote Lio if TS does not get back or disagrees with me. That means enough votes for Lio, no?

But why vote Liosan? Lio doesn't do anything except what Karat tells him. Wouldn't it be better to cut off their threemanship's head now while he's not expecting it than warning him by lynching Lio and giving him time to prepare for the next TC? Besides, if you want a shot at Karat's jury vote this is better because it'll take him by surprise and he won't know who voted for him. If you wait to the next TC he'll be figuring out all between now and then.

Eloth, on 03 May 2011 - 01:35 PM, said:

You know, none of us is sure of what Lio does. But Ruse and Kara both confirm independently that the idol trick idea was his. Also, I don't really care who he votes for in the jury, sorry to say. It will not go towards me, nor do I deserve it, I think, I've been very laid back apart from two days with reasonable posts contentwise. I play to get to the last few. From there on, I actually don't really care who wins as I cannot influence that decision or those motives. I have done what I can do on thread. Besides, I already got into a situation where I had to vote off allies (Loki and Dibs). I doubt that will be forgotten.

Moreover, if we stick together to the end, we'll vote off the other people you guys and us guys brought with us, anyway. Doesn't matter whether we do it straightaway or slow.

Serc, on 03 May 2011 - 02:40 PM, said:

Alright, Lio it is then.

Serc, on 03 May 2011 - 03:01 PM, said:

Well, Okaros just voted. Seems too fast for him to have gotten confirmation from you, so what are the odds he voted Lio?

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Ment's order to me.

Alkend, on 03 May 2011 - 03:29 PM, said:

ugh, friggin wireless... got cut last night.



vote by the system Serc made.

D'rek being naughty.

Serc, on 03 May 2011 - 02:52 PM, said:

You're being awfully quiet over there, Lio. Things still going okay according to Karat's plan?

Liosan, on 03 May 2011 - 03:29 PM, said:

Sorry, didn't get to respond yesterday, work is insane, home is insane, I am insane...

Anyway, I've finally got the pw for TC, catching up, pondering the Jury part of this game.

I suppose things are going according to someone's plan, got to wonder whose it is

New talk from Ano to Lio.

Liosan, on 03 May 2011 - 03:35 PM, said:

Hey Ano, whats up

Anomandaris, on 03 May 2011 - 03:38 PM, said:

hey man... had a extra comms link...thought i would branch out.

Spoke to karat a bit earlier but he been quiet so thought i would link up with you.

Whats your take on your alliance, you think you guys will hold tight to the end?

DKT is now stirring shit UP. Wow!

Anomandaris, on 03 May 2011 - 03:42 PM, said:

Use Whispers! I Pick Ruse as the voter, use it on Liosan

Lets see how this works out

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 03 May 2011 - 03:43 PM

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HiddenOne questions Ruse on the "rumor" he heard.

Liosan, on 03 May 2011 - 03:54 PM, said:

Ruse, what;s going on - that was a fast vote, who you aiming at today?

Ruse, on 03 May 2011 - 03:56 PM, said:

Fast? TC was only like two or three more hours when I voted. And someone had to start the voting.

Liosan, on 03 May 2011 - 04:02 PM, said:

Oh, I didn't even know TC was underway, somehow missed the password & all in the night, guess I was tired
Did you vote according to our original plan or were there any changes I should know about? I need to vote and time is almost up.

I applaud DKT for using his role to stir up havoc but the way in which he did it is counterproductive. It may cause Liosan to freak out and disrupt the voting, and if Ano gets to the end and Liosan figures out what happened, Liosan may not want to vote him for such an activity. Whispers is best used to sew confusion or get someone to panic and use something early like an idol. You don't typically want to use it in a cheeky manner because if Liosan *is* voted out, he will just be all kinds of angry later on.

DKT isn't telling why he's so good at challenges.

Liosan, on 03 May 2011 - 03:48 PM, said:

I think the alliance will hold out, yeah.

Care to share how you're kicking so much butt?

Anomandaris, on 03 May 2011 - 03:57 PM, said:

I dunno if sharing that right now will help me yet.
Lets just say it actually has more to do with what everyeon else is doing rather than anything i am doing myself....other than that i choose not to elaborate just quite yet.

DKT oopses after I tell him he can't change his Whispers target after I've already sent it.

Anomandaris, on 03 May 2011 - 03:58 PM, said:

aah well my bad....i hope he doesnt throw a hissy fit and scares Eloth off now....thats the only thing that could go wrong.

Then again it could make them implode now...tee heee

And he tells his Groupthink that it's time to vote for Liosan.

Anomandaris, on 03 May 2011 - 04:02 PM, said:

it should be ok for us to start voting Liosan now so long right?
thats the plan regardless.

Alkend....let us know if Eloth is voting with or against us.... since i have a few tricks up my sleeve that might help if they are not complying ...aaait!! ??

Im off to the shops....will keep in touch with the phone.

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HiddenOne... is he placated by Lizra's answers?

Ruse, on 03 May 2011 - 04:04 PM, said:

I did vote according to plan. There were no changes that I am aware of.

Liosan, on 03 May 2011 - 04:07 PM, said:

That's what I thought.

DKT is voting Liosan and sets up a contingency. We're at 2 votes Liosan, 1 vote Serc.

Anomandaris, on 03 May 2011 - 04:04 PM, said:

Vote Liosan

Anomandaris, on 03 May 2011 - 04:12 PM, said:

ok so i am waiting on the Eloth vote result from Alkends find.

If one of merrid, Serc or Alkend is who he is voting for then i want to give them the Hidden Idol.

if not then all is well

GB Groupthink mentions waiting for Eloth.

Alkend, on 03 May 2011 - 04:07 PM, said:

fuck, my wireless cut off last night.



O'm still waiting to hear from Jeff about Eloth.

Merrid, on 03 May 2011 - 04:14 PM, said:

Well I suspect that ps will cut us off in a hour tops. After that we will have to go on the code.

And DKT to HiddenOne...

Liosan, on 03 May 2011 - 04:04 PM, said:

don't blame you, just had to ask - you'll keep everybody guessing

I'm feeling paranoid, any evil plots about to unfold?

Anomandaris, on 03 May 2011 - 04:08 PM, said:

There are a few rumours flying around here and there down the grapevine.

But im not directly involved with this one.... so i dont know how they will pan out. Just hope the intell is correct and im not getting played hey

Im safe so im not really scrambling much behind the scenes....i know some are...heh heh

Liosan, on 03 May 2011 - 04:15 PM, said:

yeah, you never know if the info you're getting is what's setting you up for the kill...gotta love mafia

you could always give that idol away

Care to share some juicy bits of gossip, since you're safe & all

[Path-Shaper]

Venge needs to be careful how much info he gives away to Bent.

Merrid, on 03 May 2011 - 04:25 PM, said:

Ok so this is what I got. Eloth and okaros are going to vote with us in a block to lynch liosan. None of the durza's are going to vote till after eloth does. We are monitoring his vote as serc figures that you and okaros will follow eloth in this. If eloth votes for liosan then everything is good.

By and by I haven't told eloth any of this.

Lizra asks HO and Tat who he thinks will be the Dureza target.

Ruse, on 03 May 2011 - 04:36 PM, said:

Do you have any idea who the durezas are going for?

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Bent is interesting in Tattersail's vote... and what will he do with that information now?

Tulas Shorn, on 03 May 2011 - 05:55 PM, said:

PB - can you tell me who Okaros voted for please?

Path-Shaper, on 03 May 2011 - 06:21 PM, said:

Okaros voted for Liosan.

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Being a genius has its benefits... that's 4 Liosan 1 Serc. Clearly this is an attempt to appear 'in' with the Dureza boys.

Tulas Shorn, on 03 May 2011 - 06:40 PM, said:

Screw it -

Vote Liosan please

I will probably regret this, but its probably the best way to make Kara look shady AND keep out of sight.

Liosan, I really tried to get them to get Kara instead of you, but you posted in our group think that Kara might throw you under the bus.

Sorry pal, but you were too strongly allied with Kara and Ruse for my liking.

PEACE OUT! 1980's for the fail!!!

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Tapper goes through with it so this will be a bit of a landslide.

Eloth, on 03 May 2011 - 06:57 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 03 May 2011 - 03:47 PM, said:

Tapper, hopefully I catch you before I lose you for my day... do you have your vote ready?

vote Liosan


I hope that is in time

He tells Serc.

Eloth, on 03 May 2011 - 06:57 PM, said:

Serc, on 03 May 2011 - 03:01 PM, said:

Well, Okaros just voted. Seems too fast for him to have gotten confirmation from you, so what are the odds he voted Lio?

Big, since it was his plan to begin with and he was happy to do this. Unless he planned betrayal from the start, of course.

HiddenOne thinks he's been screwed. It's now 5 Liosan 2 Serc.

Liosan, on 03 May 2011 - 07:04 PM, said:

Guess I'm getting screwed, huh. My grudge list will be getting longer. RRUUUUUUSSSEE!!

Why did I get info on Ruse when I checked Karatallid?

Vote Serc

most likely to organize a plan to ride me out of town on a rail

"Thanks for inviting me into your conspiracy, but I had to decline"

I'm probably about to eat these words, pass the ketchup please.

Path-Shaper, on 03 May 2011 - 08:19 PM, said:

The "news from Ruse" was completely separate of your Karatallid check. Karatallid has not yet voted.

Liosan, on 03 May 2011 - 08:29 PM, said:

Now you've hurt my brain. How do I get this news?

Path-Shaper, on 03 May 2011 - 08:32 PM, said:

You have no idea where it came from.

Liosan, on 03 May 2011 - 08:39 PM, said:

I mean, do I find a note on my pillow, whispered in the night, painted in frog blood on the tent wall, etc.

Path-Shaper, on 03 May 2011 - 08:41 PM, said:

LOL... let's just say you heard it mentioned around camp. The details are not important.

Venge's vote is for Liosan, as well. That's 6 to 2.

Merrid, on 03 May 2011 - 08:29 PM, said:

Vote for liosan

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Tattersail questions Tapper as to his vote.

Okaros, on 03 May 2011 - 08:48 PM, said:

Who did you vote for? Liosan? Did Tulas do the same?

D'rek thanks me for keeping the code intact.

Serc, on 03 May 2011 - 08:49 PM, said:

I saw you had posted it on thread, PS, and I was freaking out wondering if the code was intact. Thanks for posting here to assuage me!

Then she takes the vote, saving her fake idol.

Serc, on 03 May 2011 - 08:50 PM, said:

Well, let's do this! I will take the risk and save my idol for a later day.

Vote Liosan

HiddenOne figures the whispers may not be true.

Liosan, on 03 May 2011 - 09:14 PM, said:

ok, i'll let it go - so I don't even know if it's true...

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Tattersail immediately fesses up to Ruse, but how much will Ruse buy into it?

Okaros, on 03 May 2011 - 09:55 PM, said:

What are your thoughts? Let me know what Kara says to you, I did tell you from the start I was voting for Liosan, no lies coming from me, as I wanted to be part of the alliance with you and kara. Now it is us three, in the pensador team. We look to vote off Anomandaris or the other one beginning with A next.

Going to castch some z's, speak to you in the morning

Ruse, on 03 May 2011 - 09:58 PM, said:

I tell you my thought when I know.

Sleep well.

Tattersail to Tapper... whoo he's playing it up.

Okaros, on 03 May 2011 - 09:58 PM, said:

We look to vote off Anomandaris or the other one beginning with A next. So that leaves you, me Ts and Merrid and Serc in our main 5 alliance. The other one we have is Ruse, he doesn't seem to trust Kara, so Ruse will vote with us next. Will Merrid and Serc be up to voting off Ano or Alkend? If not we get Pensador to vote off a dureza again united as it stands? I am off to get some z's but let me know your thoughts

Tattersail says he's very happy, to Vengey.

Okaros, on 03 May 2011 - 09:59 PM, said:

I hope you like that result because I did. I am off to catch some z's i'll speak to you tomorrow.

Okaros is ready to bring up the morale again.

Okaros, on 03 May 2011 - 10:00 PM, said:

Action Top chef

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Lizra sends a message to Karat that maybe they aren't in charge. Clearly if Ruse knows his vote and trusts Karat, they know Lio didn't vote himself so it's obvious who voted for whom.

Ruse, on 03 May 2011 - 10:12 PM, said:

That was interesting.
I now for sure that Okaros was one of those who voted for Lio.
with only three people voting for Serc, that paints an interesting picture.

He directly asks Bent.

Ruse, on 03 May 2011 - 10:13 PM, said:

Am I right when I guess that you and Eloth voted for Lio?

[Path-Shaper]

Lizra wants the idol but he's way too late.

Ruse, on 03 May 2011 - 10:15 PM, said:

Search Hidden Immunity.

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Karatallid, on 03 May 2011 - 11:27 PM, said:

serc ano merrid alkend okaros and if i had to guess eloth

me you and lio for serc, with maybe ts voting that way aswell

Roldom questions his "allies."

Karatallid, on 03 May 2011 - 11:29 PM, said:

What the hell guys

i mean really

Karatallid, on 03 May 2011 - 11:30 PM, said:

activate top chef

sorry i was so late, timezones a bitch for this one, and your right i would of voted for serc

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Venge makes his joy known to Tattersail.

Merrid, on 04 May 2011 - 12:00 AM, said:

That was everything that we had hopped that it would be.

Roldom approaches the missing Mentalist with kudos.

Karatallid, on 04 May 2011 - 12:06 AM, said:

Congratulations with the Liosan vote

Last words from HiddenOne, who isn't bitter.

Liosan, on 04 May 2011 - 01:05 AM, said:

I think Serc manuevered well. I wasn't surprised, but I'm glad Kara kept the faith.

This was a great game, it really got interesting at the last few days. I'd say Kara will be next down as a strong contender. Balance of power shifted and all that.

Well done, PB.

Venge and D'rek celebrate... how long will the alliance let them have their day though?

Merrid, on 04 May 2011 - 12:01 AM, said:

Now that is what I am talking about. Finally a break.

Serc, on 04 May 2011 - 01:13 AM, said:

Woooooot!

D'rek, to Roldom's congrats.

Serc, on 04 May 2011 - 01:13 AM, said:

Karatallid, on 04 May 2011 - 12:05 AM, said:

Congratulations with the Liosan vote

Thanks! I liked it very much! Way better than plans involving me becoming a giant target for over half the players by temporarily thwarting a lynch on myself.

Karatallid, on 04 May 2011 - 01:34 AM, said:

i thought you had lio picked as one of the end 6? i hadnt noticed that you had switched him for okaros...

well its obvious you have pendasor comprimised, kudos

[Path-Shaper]

The only way Bent's telling the truth here is if Karat voted for Serc...

Tulas Shorn, on 04 May 2011 - 02:27 AM, said:

no, i think it was Eloth , but no sure who else. I have no idea what kind of stunt he and whomever is with him is trying to pull.

Bent tells Venge it's time to pony up.

Tulas Shorn, on 04 May 2011 - 02:30 AM, said:

Okaros and I went ahead and voted Liosan, but I hope that you are still with the 3 of us. We need to take out the rest of your team to take out the rest of ours. We dont want Pensador to start forming alliances that overpower ours, right? We showed you and Serc that we can play ball, now its your turn.

Venge acts incredulous to his Groupthink.

Tulas Shorn, on 04 May 2011 - 02:28 AM, said:

Karatallid, on 03 May 2011 - 11:29 PM, said:

What the hell guys

i mean really

Understatement of the decade Kara. Seriously, why dont you guys just hand the freaking game to the D's!

Tulas Shorn, on 04 May 2011 - 02:46 AM, said:

why didnt Serc play the idol you gave him is what I want to know?

Karatallid, on 04 May 2011 - 02:59 AM, said:

two reasons, either he knew he had enough of us pensadors behind him that he could save it for later

or sombody here told him it was a fake