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Spoilers (Mafia 72 - Survivor) 39 days, 18 castaways, 1 survivor

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Posted 22 April 2011 - 07:36 PM

Alkend (+3) 35 | 7 + 3 = 10 | 25
Anomandaris (+2) 35 | 3 + 2 = 5 | 30
Barghast (+4) 27 | 5 + 4 = 9 | 18
Kalse (+3) 33 | 10 + 3 = 13 | 20
Merrid (+3) 34 | 6 + 3 = 9 | 25
Serc (+2) 34 | 5 + 2 = 7 | 27

Eloth (+2) 24 | 5 + 2 = 7 | 17
Gamelon (+3) 26 | 9 + 3 = 12 | 14
Karatallid (+6) 16 | 8 + 6 = 14 | 2
Liosan (+4) 25 | 6 + 4 = 10 | 15
Okaros (+3) 23 | 8 + 3 = 11 | 12
Ruse (0) 29 | 4 | 25

Alkend (+3) 25 | 1 + 3 = 4 | 21
Anomandaris (+2) 30 | 4 + 2 = 6 | 24
Barghast (+4) 18 | 6 + 4 = 10 | 8
Kalse (+3) 20 | 8 + 3 = 11 | 9
Merrid (+3) 25 | 5 + 3 = 8 | 17
Serc (+2) 27 | 10 + 2 = 12 | 15

Eloth (+2) 17 | 3 + 2 = 5 | 12
Gamelon (+3) 14 | 10 + 3 = 11 | 1
Karatallid (+6) 2 | 1 + 6 = 7 | -5
Liosan (+4) 15 | 6 + 4 = 10 | 5
Okaros (+3) 12 | 3 + 3 = 6 | 6
Ruse (0) 25 | 8 | 17

Alkend (+3) 21 | 3 + 3 = 6 | 15
Anomandaris (+2) 24 | 9 + 2 = 11 | 13
Barghast (+4) 8 | 7 + 4 = 11 | -3
Kalse (+3) 9 | 6 + 3 = 9 | 0
Merrid (+3) 17 | 9 + 3 = 12 | 5
Serc (+2) 15 | 5 + 2 = 7 | 8

Eloth (+2) 12 | 8 + 2 = 10 | 2
Gamelon (+3) 1 | 8 + 3 = 11 | -10
Karatallid (+6) 0
Liosan (+4) 5 | 6 + 4 = 10 | -5
Okaros (+3) 6 | 3 + 3 = 6 | 0
Ruse (0) 17 | 10 | 7

Alkend (+3) 15 | 5 + 3 = 8 | 7
Anomandaris (+2) 13 | 6 + 2 = 8 | 5
Barghast (+4) 0
Kalse (+3/-1Ch) 0
Merrid (+3) 5 | 4 + 3 = 7 | -2
Serc (+2,+1Ch,+1DblCh) 8 | 8 + 4 = 12 | -4

Eloth (+2,+1DblCh) 2 | 4 + 3 = 7 | -5
Gamelon (+3) 0
Karatallid (+6/-1Ch) 0
Liosan (+4) 0
Okaros (+3) 0
Ruse (+1Ch,+2DblChl) 7 | 3 + 3 = 6 | 1
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Alkend (+3) 7 | 6 + 3 = 9 | -2
Anomandaris (+2,+2Ch,+2DblCh) 5 | 4 + 6 = 10 | -5
Barghast (+4) 0
Kalse (+3/-1Ch) 0
Merrid (+3) 0
Serc (+2,+1Ch,+1DblCh) 0

Eloth (+2,+1DblCh) 0
Gamelon (+3) 0
Karatallid (+6/-1Ch) 0
Liosan (+4) 0
Okaros (+3) 0
Ruse (+1Ch,+2DblChl) 1 | 10 + 3 = 13 | -12

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Posted 22 April 2011 - 08:06 PM

Leg 4:

Dureza Total Bonus: 3 + 2 + 4 + 3 + 3 + 2 = 17 - 5E (only Merrid unaffected) = +12
Pensador Total Bonus: 2 + 3 + 6 + 4 + 3 + 0 = 18 - 4E (Karatallid, Okaros unaffected) = +14

Dureza 60 | 7 + 8 + 10 + 7 + 6 + 8 + 12 = 58 | 2
Pensador 60 | 1 + 1 + 2 + 5 + 6 + 10 + 14 = 39 | 21

Dureza 2 | 4 + 8 + 9 + 1 + 5 + 8 + 12 = 45 | -43 => 0.956
Pensador 21 | 6 + 10 + 2 + 8 + 10 + 2 = 52 | -31 => 0.596

Leg 5:
Dureza loses 5 Morale again = +7
Pensador loses 5 Morale = +9

Bonus!
Dureza 60 | (3 + 9 + 1 + 1 + 7 + 2 + 7) * 0.956 = 28 | 32
Pensador 60 | (2 + 4 + 3 + 2 + 10 + 4 + 9) * 0.596 = 20 | 40

Dureza 32 | 5 + 1 + 7 + 8 + 4 + 5 + 7 = 37 | -5 (wins)
Pensador 40 | 1 + 5 + 1 + 8 + 8 + 1 + 9 = 33 | 7
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Posted 22 April 2011 - 08:11 PM

What a win... wow. Ruse with that one roll give Dureza just enough of an in to make it. They were almost the underdogs considering how much STR the other team had, but Karatallid's ability to finish quickly wasn't useful in that he couldn't help anyone else. Barghast really helped his tribe out. Alkend just had bad rolls.
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Posted 22 April 2011 - 08:14 PM

Vengey thinks they are on to him.

Merrid, on 22 April 2011 - 06:23 PM, said:

Yeah so the twats targeted me again for the - moral again...sigh... Probably tapper or silencer or someone who is jealous of my ravishing good looks. :D

Serc, on 22 April 2011 - 06:52 PM, said:

Well, I used rally cry so we have +1 and the morale boost from the reward challenge, I think we'll be okay.

Merrid, on 22 April 2011 - 06:54 PM, said:

I just hope that our strength players were able to get there - moral shots in...

Merrid, on 22 April 2011 - 06:58 PM, said:

Oh that is good.


D'rek's glad to find the idol, but what good will it do her right now? Probably none since the merge is tomorrow.

Serc, on 22 April 2011 - 07:17 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 22 April 2011 - 04:07 PM, said:

During the reward, some of your tribe mates get up to learn how to dance or absorb various parts of the tribal culture. You are feeling pretty good about yourself and stay seated a little longer than everyone else, making sure to eat as much as you can to stave off hunger later on.

You are poking through a basket of rolls when your hand touches something slightly rough. You think it's a rolled-up piece of paper. Your heart skips a beat and you look around. Nobody appears to be watching you, so you quickly pull it out and pocket it for later.

Later, back at camp, you excuse yourself and find a secluded area and read the paper. It's a clue to the Hidden Immunity Idol!

You have a +2 Bonus to all Search for Hidden Immunity Idol rolls around your tribe's camp.

(You may share this clue if you wish by simply saying Share Hidden Immunity Idol Clue with <Player>, but all individuals who receive this clue will be able to further share it, if they please)


That's cool. When can I search for the idol next?

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Posted 22 April 2011 - 08:44 PM

D'rek's wanting to idol hunt.

Serc, on 22 April 2011 - 08:38 PM, said:

Sounds about right. I'd like to make a provisional to do a search as soon as I can. I'll add another prov later about who to listen in on next phase, too.

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Posted 22 April 2011 - 11:38 PM

Pensador has a big weakness right now... they don't talk much. I don't know that a team that is not in constant communication will fare well after the merge.

Lizra says she wants to get rid of Gamelon. It's probably for the best since he can't play much anymore... but where the hell has Okaros been? snake0026 has been gone for 3 days!

Ruse, on 22 April 2011 - 11:32 PM, said:

Gamelon.

What about you?

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Posted 23 April 2011 - 05:03 AM

Karat tells Tapper to vote Gamelon.

Karatallid, on 23 April 2011 - 01:32 AM, said:

the votes are in, theres barely a gnats penis between the two but we have decided to vote Gamelon

Please vote when you can.


To Ruse.

Karatallid, on 23 April 2011 - 01:12 AM, said:

gamelon i suppose


Ruse votes.

Ruse, on 23 April 2011 - 02:33 AM, said:

vote Gamelon

Message: I don't really know what to say here to you. Goodbye, I suppose. :D


Bent got the news. His reasoning is sound though.

Tulas Shorn, on 23 April 2011 - 03:01 AM, said:

Looks like Gamelon, according to Karatallid.

Tulas Shorn, on 23 April 2011 - 03:03 AM, said:

Vote Gamelon

Sorry man, it was you or Okaros - and you said you werent going to be around often enough, so that made my choice. But had that not happened I would have liked to have kept you around. Good luck mate


Gamelon votes for Okaros.

Gamelon, on 23 April 2011 - 03:53 AM, said:

Vote - Okaros

I'm voting for Okaros because his skills and mine are fairly matched and this makes him a threat to my usefulness to the tribe.



Does Karat really think I didn't add it to Ruse?

Karatallid, on 23 April 2011 - 01:30 AM, said:

in the challenge we just lost, did you use your strength bonus on anyone?

Gamelon, on 23 April 2011 - 03:46 AM, said:

My strength bonus doesn't need to be activated - I can specify who I want to use it on otherwise PS applies it to whoever will benefit the most from it.

Karatallid, on 23 April 2011 - 04:02 AM, said:

i wonder why he didnt put it on ruse...

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Posted 23 April 2011 - 02:15 PM

Loki explains away the mystery.

Gamelon, on 23 April 2011 - 05:57 AM, said:

This is what PS has said - Your strength will automatically go toward the person that can use it, if there are any valid targets in your leg of the challenge.

Perhaps this is why it didn't appear to go to Ruse.


DKT isn't sure how the idol works.

Anomandaris, on 23 April 2011 - 07:36 AM, said:

Is there a hidden idol at each tribe? Or is there only one that goes back into play for everyone?


HiddenOne votes.

Liosan, on 23 April 2011 - 11:54 AM, said:

Sorry for the delay, PB, had kind of a short night, couldn't get back on

Vote Gamelon


It's 4 Gamelon 1 Okaros right now IF Karatallid voted for Gamelon, but his vote is missing. I expect it will go 6-1 in the end but Okaros may not show back up.
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Posted 23 April 2011 - 07:51 PM

Eloth, on 23 April 2011 - 07:24 PM, said:

Vote Gamelon.


OK, Okaros may be missing but Gamelon's voted out.
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Posted 24 April 2011 - 04:54 PM

Vengeance tells D'rek to get the numbers up.

Merrid, on 23 April 2011 - 10:41 PM, said:

We need to get kalse into our alliance to gave even numbers.


Ruse, on 23 April 2011 - 11:51 PM, said:

Has anyone contact to Okaros or can make contact with him?


Ruse is looking for the idol at the new camp.

Ruse, on 24 April 2011 - 12:05 AM, said:

search Hidden Immunitiy Idol :D


Ruse and Bent talk over how to approach the missing Okaros.

Tulas Shorn, on 24 April 2011 - 12:57 AM, said:

I dont think anyone has, I think I may still be able to though. I will try to do so now.

Tulas Shorn, on 24 April 2011 - 12:59 AM, said:

no, I cannot. I used both of mine - one on Karatallid, one on Eloth. Though I suppose I could break mine with Eloth - he doesnt talk much anyway.

Ruse, on 24 April 2011 - 01:09 AM, said:

I have sent this to everyone, so maybe one of the others is able to and that wont be necessary.
Probabl Eloth can do it. I think he hasn't used any of his forging alliance.
Though, it might be good to have more than one person talking to Okaros, to see if he tells them different things.
It's up to you, if you want to. :D


Vengeance asks Ment to get in contact w/ Kalse.

Merrid, on 24 April 2011 - 03:21 AM, said:

We will see that profess wrote me back and said that the test was generally considered to be to hard and long. (Which is what she said. :D ) So he is going to give out the grades for it after we take the midterm on wednesday. He was a last minute replacement for another teacher who is really sick. He was asked to teach our class 4 days before the start. Which sucks for him and for us. I know the other prof and have had him before. He is a student favorite.

Can you establish a connection with Kalse and see if he is interested in an alliance with us against the ponders.



Alkend, on 24 April 2011 - 04:35 AM, said:

patch me through to Kalse, plz.



Eloth, on 24 April 2011 - 10:58 AM, said:

I'd like to forge an alliance with Okaros, please.

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Posted 24 April 2011 - 07:12 PM

D'rek's wondering what use the clue was.

Serc, on 24 April 2011 - 05:32 PM, said:

So it was pretty useless, then, huh?

Path-Shaper, on 24 April 2011 - 07:10 PM, said:

Well, for you, yes, since you searched during the day before you got the clue and didn't share it with anyone.


D'rek thinks she can maybe crack the Pensador lines.

Serc, on 24 April 2011 - 05:34 PM, said:

Or one of the Pensadors if they aren't united. I think I will break communication with Alkend and try to probe to one of them, see if I can learn anything without giving anything away.

Serc, on 24 April 2011 - 05:35 PM, said:

Alk, I'm going to break this communication link so I can try and probe the Pensadors and learn stuff about them, so you'll have to go back to getting info through Merrid and Ano, if that's alright. Cheers.

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Posted 24 April 2011 - 07:54 PM

View PostPath-Shaper, on 21 April 2011 - 07:12 AM, said:

Well I guess Alkend isn't interested in looking for the idol so... we get to roll for the desperation alliance. Barghast has a +2.

D'riss: 8
Kalse: 4
Barghast: 6 + 2 = 8

Not this time, it appears.


So if Barghast gave me the map I would have got the idol, we could have used Kalse's ability and got rid of Serc, Ano or Alkend. Barghast, Twelve, go woth your instincts, this would have been a brilliant double play
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Posted 25 April 2011 - 05:05 AM

D'rek breaks alliance with Ment to try and worm her way into the other tribe... and she tells me her end-game plans.

Serc, on 24 April 2011 - 05:35 PM, said:

Alk, I'm going to break this communication link so I can try and probe the Pensadors and learn stuff about them, so you'll have to go back to getting info through Merrid and Ano, if that's alright. Cheers.

Serc, on 25 April 2011 - 02:04 AM, said:

Ah, last thing before I break it. Alk, you should break one of your connections and start making temporary ones with everyone in the other tribe to learn what stats, roles and level they have, then relay that info to Merrid for the rest of us!

Serc, on 25 April 2011 - 02:10 AM, said:

Can I please break my connection with Alkend and make a new one with Liosan?

This tribal council phase, I would like to monitor the PM habits of Kalse and Liosan (provisionary on if Liosan accepts the connection. If he doesn't I'll take Kalse right away and add the second one once I get an accepted connection.)

Serc, on 25 April 2011 - 02:37 AM, said:

Random thoughts for spoilers/etc:

This merge is going to be interesting since each side has even numbers and there's been no cross-tribe communication or exchange so far beyond idle cat-calling in the challenges thread. And the proverbial shit could hit the fan real quick for us Bastards if a couple things happen. The worst I see right now is if the Pensadors are all allied together and Kalse doesn't work with us or even worse goes and joins them. Much as I said in PMs it is not in his interest, the truth is that while we are divided by old tribe lines now, that will not last. By the time there are 6 people left there will be betrayal and fragmentation and it will get crazy. Kalse could go join them and as they keep killing us off, he may seem weak and therefore when the fragmentation comes they won't immediately pounce on him.

For myself, I need to do more than live through to the fragmentation. I need to keep my Dureza allies alive because the leadership bonuses they give me for voting like me could stack up to +4 per phase, which is craaaazy. And since the idols are all individual now, that's great news for me winning immunity challenges and ergo surviving. Of course winning challenges will also make me look threatening, but hopefully I can use some reward challenges where I get to take people with me to maintain good ties with Dureza and to make some new buddies with the Pensadors.

My ultimate hope for the end game is to be the last person to win immunity, so I get that wonderful last tribal council where it is simply my decision who gets voted out. I plan to take the "honourable" root and keep my game-friend with me (Vengy if he's still alive) to the final with me, which should be a pretty heartening move for the jury and will hopefully win me the final. Not that anyone can ever know I'm planning that until after the final... hey I sure hope no one can use a listen-in ability on my confessions to you! :D


twelve's plans aren't as solid as he thinks due to the game mechanics.

Barghast, on 24 April 2011 - 08:40 PM, said:

Okay this is how I see us getting out of the first tribal with the numbers. I'm fairly sure that I can convice Kalse to vote with us on the first tribal. So we will have 6 people strong that will vote with us. Though to get out of the first tribal we must have the HII. That means that we will have to share our clue with everyone and then have whoever found the second clue to share it with everyone else. That will have 6 people with a +4 advantage looking for the HII. That is of course someone hasn't already found it and is keeping that a secret from everyone.

Once we have the HII we have three people vote early for, say Karatallids. Tulas Shorn will of course use his ability on one of those people to find out who we are voting for so they know who to use the idol on. Then the rest of us will vote for Tulas Shorn or Ruse as I think they have the best abilities to weed out info on our side. Then of course we will use the idol on whoever they are voting for and we will have 3 votes on someone else. Though to be safe I think that Serc and Ano should level up to level 2 intel so we can have 3 people who can spy on who is voting for who.

We should also have Alkend use his follower ability to find out stats on as many people as he can on the other side so we know for sure who has what abilites so we can counter if need be. What do you think?



Ment talks to ansible.

Alkend, on 24 April 2011 - 11:42 PM, said:

Hey man, Happy Easter.

Seeing as it`s now gonna be split on tribal lines for the next Council, we wewere wondering if we could count on your vote.


On the other side, Bent tells Roldom about things, suggesting he should contact Okaros.

Tulas Shorn, on 24 April 2011 - 05:34 PM, said:

no, I could drop my Eloth alliance, and contact him though, since Eloth doesnt say much anyway.

Tulas Shorn, on 24 April 2011 - 05:35 PM, said:

However Ruse said Eloth might be able to do it (but I might drop eloth and contact Okaros anyway, just to be safe)

Karatallid, on 25 April 2011 - 01:41 AM, said:

might be a good idea, ask him who he feels like voting for

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Posted 25 April 2011 - 05:10 AM

Deception begins to become an issue... D'rek tells vengey how to get it played but DKT is not who they think he is.

Serc, on 25 April 2011 - 02:17 AM, said:

I told Alkend he should make a bunch of temporary chats with the Pensadors since he can apparently learn their roles and levels when he does. I can't chat with him anymore so make sure he gets on that and relay the info back to the rest of us.

I'm going to try and get a more long-term chat with a Pensador (starting with Liosan, HiddenOne is not too secretive) and see if I can learn about any alliances among them. Hopefully they are not one big tribal alliance.

I recommended to Ano to level up his Genius role so we can monitor Pensador's votes. If Kalse helps us, we can monitor multiple of them which is even better.


D'rek gives the orders to DKT.

Serc, on 25 April 2011 - 02:14 AM, said:

Me and Barghast think if you haven't used your EXP yet (or when you get more) you should upgrade your Genius role so we can monitor the Pensador's votes. Kalse can do it already, but having being able to monitor multiple people would be very useful and Kalse might not always be trustworthy.

Alkend is supposed to try and get temporary off-thread communications with all the Pensadors so we can learn their roles and levels, and I'm going to chat with them too to see if I can learn if they have any alliances among them.

Serc, on 25 April 2011 - 02:19 AM, said:

Also, talk with Kalse and do what you can to make sure he'll work with us against the former Pensadors. It's in his best interest, as the Pensadors will try to vote out all the Dureza and leave just themselves, and he *should* see this and be willing to work with us to do the same to them.


twelve asks D'rek how to get through the first vote.

Barghast, on 24 April 2011 - 10:46 PM, said:

Now that we made the merge what's the plan to get past the first vote? I think we need either an Idol or someone to flip. Do you think that you and Ano might want to level up to level 2 int so we can get 3 players that can spy on their votes? I haven't used up my 2 exp points yet. I'm not sure what I should spend them on. Also should we have Alkend use his follower ability to forge allianaces with all the other members so we know who has what abilites?

Just some thoughts. This first vote is very critical and I very much want to be on the right side of the numbers.

Serc, on 25 April 2011 - 02:12 AM, said:

Good idea on Alkend's ability. I sent him word to do so. I'm also going to try and use my second connect to chat with the Pensadors and see if I can learn anything from them. Not sure how I want to use my exp yet, leader 3 might be really useful for us, but I'll recommend to Ano to up his genius role.

Serc, on 25 April 2011 - 02:19 AM, said:

Also, talk with Kalse and do what you can to make sure he'll work with us against the former Pensadors. It's in his best interest, as the Pensadors will try to vote out all the Dureza and leave just themselves, and he *should* see this and be willing to work with us to do the same to them.

Barghast, on 25 April 2011 - 02:57 AM, said:

I'll do my best but my credibilitly with him is shot to hell. But hopefully I can get him to see reason.


Here twelve tells Kalse what to do.

Barghast, on 24 April 2011 - 08:42 PM, said:

Okay This is great news for us. How do you want to play this out?

Barghast, on 25 April 2011 - 03:04 AM, said:

Just passing this on from Serc

Serc, on 25 April 2011 - 02:19 AM, said:

Also, talk with Kalse and do what you can to make sure he'll work with us against the former Pensadors. It's in his best interest, as the Pensadors will try to vote out all the Dureza and leave just themselves, and he *should* see this and be willing to work with us to do the same to them.



I honestly think that we should go along with the group. At least at first. If we can get the first vote to go in our favor then I think that we should vote with them on the very next vote and then start to think about flipping to the other side. I'm sure that when we do flip then I can get Merrid to come over to our side and have a final three of you me and Merrid. It will be a delicate balancing act. Timing will be critical. Just an idea and more planning will be needed but definately something worth considering. Let me know what you think of it.

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Posted 25 April 2011 - 02:39 PM

More whining.

Barghast, on 25 April 2011 - 05:22 AM, said:

So reward challenges obviously give the winners a chance at the hidden immunity idol. Is there anything that an individual can do to find the clue or is that determined by a dice roll? Does moral factor in the dice roll at all? It's just driving me crazy to know there is a clue out there but there isn't anything that I can determine that I can do to improve my chances of landing that clue. Because if there is something that I can do I want to do it.


DKT spills the beans to D'rek! Oh, this could be costly for him later if she doesn't trust him.

Anomandaris, on 25 April 2011 - 08:31 AM, said:

I am going to come clean with you mate :D. I am not a genius nor a challenger. I am actually a level 3 deceiver. Yea i know... I know... But I didn't want to tell anyone before the merge as there seemed to be a feeling that a deceiver was bad to have in the tribe and i didn't want to get voted out because of it. I did however have a +1 int and thats why i said i was genius. The problem with this role is that there is a few abilities i am not allowed to reveal and have to 'Deceive' everyone in order to tell them my abilities in a round about way. So when i leveled up i had to fake roles that seemed to have similar bonuses to what i was given. thats why i said i leveled up to challenger... you can work out what bonus i got that time right? Without me actually saying it. :D And i felt i did alright in the challenges regardless. But anyways... Now that team challenges are over i feel i can come clean. Sorry for the deception but i always intended on telling the truth... Ok so obviousy i can't tell you who anyone is voting for like kalse can. I can tell you that my role is heavily geared towards finding the idol! So that will come in handy i hope! So far i have come up empty handed so i am thinking someone on the other tribe might already have it! My role is obviously also geard towards deception but thats what i can't reveal to you. But you should be able to work it out! Since i can only think of one way anyone can really deceive anyone else with an ability in this game! Another thing... Don't worry about me being a deceiver. I am 100% behind our alliance. This role has nothing to do with back stabbing and swapping sides etc. and everything to do with simple misdirection. Which is very handy now that we have merged. But thats all i can say. I can't tell you how or with what. All i will tell you guys is what to do when the time comes and hope it pans out. Could you please not tell anyone about me being a deceiver. If it gets out i will be targetted by the other team as i really do have some tricks that can mess with them big time! If they have a deceiver i suggest we try and track him down. And get rid of him asap, as he will likewise be pretty handy for them now.... Any questions?

Anomandaris, on 25 April 2011 - 08:41 AM, said:

i fully intend on going to distance with you serc. Thats why i have come clean with you. I hope you haven't lost faith in me.


Here, DKT is trying to make sure Kalse doesn't check a Deceiver's vote... but there are no other Deceivers in the game.

Anomandaris, on 25 April 2011 - 09:06 AM, said:

Hey hey! :p we made it too the merge! Whoop whoop! Its a pity about driss, really didn't want to see him go. But he said he apparently thought bargie was voting for him anyway so he never really had the numbers to effect a regime change. Anyways... Whats your thoughts on the merge? You gonna stick with your old tribe mates right.... RIGHT? :) You can't defect on me mate. Don't leave me with these people! :D anyways seriously. We going to need you and your ability to check peoples votes so there is a huge need for you to be around, so you are very safe over here. Its a whole different ball game now! One word of warning. I have an ability that i am not allowed to reveal. So you are just going to have to trust me. never check the first of their voters... Always wait to see who the 2nd or 3rd voter of their voters is voting for. Don't ask me how or why...just trust me on this. Other than that... You have any questions or ideas?



Here's DKT's plan post-merge.

Anomandaris, on 25 April 2011 - 09:23 AM, said:

Ok so its safe to say i will sabotage every single cycle. I can sabotage once and misdirect once aswell right? If so.. Then sabotage please. And i will get back to you with which misdirection i will use. Most likely will be the vote option. I also want to forge alliance with merrid! in the mean time.

Path-Shaper, on 25 April 2011 - 02:37 PM, said:

Yes, you can do each one once per cycle. Noted on Sabotage. I do ask that you submit a new order every single TC because you can Sabotage at different times (maybe you want to make sure Morale takes the hit right before the immunity challenge, for example).

Any particular thoughts on your end? I saw you came clean with Serc. Why did you do that? Thought it could help you advance farther? Are you playing it straight with Serc to make him trust you more for a later betrayal?


Liosan says he could not contact Okaros *** (Serc PM marker)

Liosan, on 25 April 2011 - 11:57 AM, said:

nope

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Posted 25 April 2011 - 02:42 PM

You can already see potential cracks... Roldom doesn't have a tightly-run ship. ****

Liosan, on 25 April 2011 - 12:01 PM, said:

Are we going to maintain the alliance through this new joining of tribes?


Vengeance relays info from Serc to Barghast.

Merrid, on 25 April 2011 - 01:57 PM, said:

Ok so Serc had that same idea about having Alkend create alliances with as many of the Ponders as possible. I guess that Kalse is with us. Serc broke off with Alkend and is going to try to see if they have a big alliance or several small ones, and see if he can find the weak links.


Interesting, is Bent really trying to form a sub-alliance with Tapper and the missing Okaros? I think Bent has a good chance of beating both, so it may be a good strategy... if Okaros stays around.

Tulas Shorn, on 25 April 2011 - 02:30 PM, said:

Eloth - I have been asked to break our alliance, and to contact Okaros so that we can maintain contact since the merge. since I am connected to Ruse and Karatallid and so are you we thought that the was no need to stay in this alliance

(just so you know I am telling you this because I am a little wary about Karatallid. He is connected with everyone and seems to be trying to convince me of you being suspicious)

I hesitate to do this, because frankly I think he and Ruse and Liosan have formed their own group of 3.

I would like to get you me and Okaros in our own group of 3 to protect ourselves. We could work together with their 3 until the final 6, and then You, Okaros, and I goto the final 3.

However, me breaking our alliance and going to Okaros leaves you out of the loop, and they know that.

I suggest you use your Forge Allaince to re-form with me. I will break from you and forge with Okaros, and then we can have Okaros Forge with you and Karatallid.

this way we can watch Karatallid, and keep in contact with each other.

I will wait to hear from you before I break our alliance.

I remember that it was you that I first allied with, and that you approached Kara and Ruse on my behalf. So I guess I am saying that its with you I will stay, and we need Okaros to bring things back to even. Let me know what you think.

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Posted 25 April 2011 - 03:35 PM

Serc talks to Lio for the first time.

Serc, on 25 April 2011 - 03:24 PM, said:

Hi Lio,

Now that we're one big tribe I thought I'd branch out to the former Pensadors. There's no point in holding to our own old sides when immunity is going to be individual now anyways. So, how're things?


ansible talks to Mentalist about staying together...

Kalse, on 25 April 2011 - 03:45 PM, said:

Who's "we"?

I have no problem voting with the tribe; in fact, I would prefer it. But at the moment I'm pretty much out of the loop. This makes me a little uncomfortable - but yeah, you can count on my vote. I understand that it's mutually beneficial for us to stick together, so that's what I plan to do, but a little info now and again would go a long way.

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Posted 25 April 2011 - 04:10 PM

I give Vengeance the low-down.

Merrid, on 25 April 2011 - 04:04 PM, said:

Do I have enough experience points to branch out to Genius L1?



Do I have any extra room for a plus moral?

Path-Shaper, on 25 April 2011 - 04:09 PM, said:

1) No, you only have 1 EXP. You spent 2 EXP on Survivor Level 2 and 3 EXP on Survivor Level 3. There are only 2 more EXP in the game, so keep that in mind, as if you branch to another role you will not be able to hit Survivor Level 4 (if that was your goal).

2) As of "this moment" you are at maximum morale from the merge.

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Posted 25 April 2011 - 04:17 PM

ansible would be happy not having to watch his back every few minutes, as he tells Merrid. ****

Kalse, on 25 April 2011 - 04:11 PM, said:

Yeah... I think I plan to stick with our tribe. Honestly it seems like it's the smartest thing for all of us to do. However I do expect the tribe dynamics to change a bit..

What role does that ability you can't reveal come from? Deceiver? Anyway, I trust you as far as not checking the first vote. I don't see any reason not to trust you, anyway...

I'd like to see us really pull together as a tribe and work together. I feel like up until now there has been a serious amount of in-fighting and I would rather be a part of a tight group than worry about watching my back.


He seems fine with twelve, too. ****

Kalse, on 25 April 2011 - 04:19 PM, said:

I agree about voting with Dureza for now. If we see an opportunity to get the advantage, we should take it. Have you heard anything about the HII? Does anyone have it that we know of?

If Merrid is going to stick with us, that's great, because without a 3rd leg of our alliance it will be tough to take action when we need to. It was good to have D'riss with us but we definitely needed to replace him now.

Interesting that Serc doesn't contact me directly because we have an alliance still open. Maybe I should put that to better use somewhere else.

Kalse, on 25 April 2011 - 04:24 PM, said:

Also I need to think about what to do with my remaining EXP. I can theoretically wait till I have the last 2 EXP and then get Level 4 Genius, which I'm sure would be useful, but it pretty much locks me into a single area. With 1 END, I could pick up a STR role and at least have a shot at competing in the STR portions of the challenges....but this would waste one of my last EXP. Since everything is individual now it seems important to be well-rounded, too. Do you know how your STR bonuses will work now that we aren't competing as a tribe? Like, how someone else gets a +1 STR from you if competing in a STR challenege...does that still apply?


Liosan is going... Genius! He has taken all 3 Challenge-centric roles.

Liosan, on 25 April 2011 - 04:15 PM, said:

Spend my 2 EXP on becoming a Genius, or I'll never get through these challenges

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Posted 25 April 2011 - 04:54 PM

Ruse hunts for the idol

Ruse: 9 => fails (wow, close)
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