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#641 User is offline   Korabas 

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Posted 18 March 2011 - 04:18 PM

One more and we can move on. I don't know whether omtose is scum based off of the fog. But he needs to be removed otherwise scum will be able to use him as cover.

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Posted 18 March 2011 - 04:33 PM

Bold?

Tapper, how long till the weekend freeze?

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Posted 18 March 2011 - 04:45 PM

Yeah it has to be bold I think Korabas, Tapper said yesterday that it'd be 12ish, but with this being day end he may wait until night is resolved and then freeze it..

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Posted 18 March 2011 - 04:49 PM

View PostKorabas, on 18 March 2011 - 04:18 PM, said:

One more and we can move on. I don't know whether omtose is scum based off of the fog. But he needs to be removed otherwise scum will be able to use him as cover.

Remove vote

Vote omtose



It is bolded at least on my phone.

But fine

REMOVE VOTE

VOTE OMTOSE


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Posted 18 March 2011 - 05:13 PM

View PostBarghast, on 18 March 2011 - 03:25 PM, said:

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For all of GL's messiness, he probably puts more thought into his cases than anyone else. He remembers key details. I tend to find scum miss details because they are more focused on their own agendas and not the small stuff.
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First off are you on crack? If so please share. as no one else has called you on this obvious bullshit I will.

Since when does mother fucking scum play loosy fucking goosy! Good fucking scum don't... why cause the fucking know that any fucking thing out of mother fucking place will be the fucking thing that loses them the fucking game. If anything scum play the exact fucking opposite if what you just described. Scum need to know everything that people fucking post so that they can keep the fucking sheep baaaing in the fucking direction that scum needs.

Also while I am at it Why are you other guys just buying his reveal. Neither liosan or rashan can comment if barghast is right or not. So it isn't like he can validate himself in anyway possible.

It is a fucking great reveal if your scum. Especially if your a symp. Shhhittt he isn't claiming a full fucking finder just if people can kill or not. Fuck I don't buy it for a second. He doesn't have to prove anything and we have no way to validate it. So it is a bunch of nothing. If your a symp then you know who your masters are and can cover them. What cover does he use that he finds out if some one is a sentry. Which was motherfucking what osseric was. So barghast hasn't had to give out any new Fucking information. Well I don't fucking buy his bull shit It fucking smells to fucking heaven. I think he is a fucking symp.


Edited for grammar
Edited cause I was on my phone

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Posted 18 March 2011 - 05:23 PM

View PostPath-Shaper, on 17 March 2011 - 10:02 AM, said:

Osseric is dead. He was Silencer, and Agung Redjosentono, a Syndicate Sentry.



View PostBarghast, on 18 March 2011 - 01:11 AM, said:

This is ridiculous. You guys are calling me scum over a guy like GL... incredible. I am not scum, and I do not know who is, but I do know some information about some of the other people in the game. I am not going to tell you how this information came to me.


I am reasonably sure (at this point) that Osseric was as close to "RI" as you're going to get in this game. He was a Syndicate Sentry. I believe the Sentries are the "generic" players for the Syndicate. Omtose has indicated he is "RI" and if you believe him, that means he is also a Sentry.

I know for a fact that Liosan is *not* a Sentry and Rashan *is* a Sentry. I don't know if they are Syndicate or Agents. However, I do know that neither one has a killing action. Maybe they didn't start with one and gained it, I can't say. But if you are trying to narrow down your list of suspects to people who have been able to kill, you have to rule out both Liosan and Rashan.

My bet would be on Korabas or GL... just for the stuff I've already said. I'm also somewhat suspicious of Merrid but that's because he's getting no attention. In a game like that, it usually indicates a good ability by the scum to hide their powerful members, but I don't know if it's vote-worthy.


This goes with the above post.

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Posted 18 March 2011 - 05:26 PM

You are somewhere between a rock and clueless, Korabas...

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Posted 18 March 2011 - 05:27 PM

Way to rage against me, too. It will allow you to act sheepish after I'm killed, right?

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Posted 18 March 2011 - 05:33 PM

View PostKorabas, on 18 March 2011 - 05:13 PM, said:

View PostBarghast, on 18 March 2011 - 03:25 PM, said:

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For all of GL's messiness, he probably puts more thought into his cases than anyone else. He remembers key details. I tend to find scum miss details because they are more focused on their own agendas and not the small stuff..


First off are you on crack? If so please share. as no one else has called you on this obvious bullshit I will.

Since when does mother fucking scum play loosy fucking goosy! Good fucking scum don't... why cause the fucking know that any fucking thing out of mother fucking place will be the fucking thing that loses them the fucking game. If anything scum play the exact fucking opposite if what you just described. Scum need to know everything that people fucking post so that they can keep the fucking sheep baaaing in the fucking direction that scum needs.

Also while I am at it Why are you other guys just buying his reveal. Neither liosan or rashan can comment if barghast is right or not. So it isn't like he can validate himself in anyway possible.

It is a fucking great reveal if your scum. Especially if your a symp. Shhhittt he isn't claiming a full fucking finder just if people can kill or not. Fuck I don't buy it for a second. He doesn't have to prove anything and we have no way to validate it. So it is a bunch of nothing. If your a symp then you know who your masters are and can cover them. What cover does he use that he finds out if some one is a sentry. Which was motherfucking what osseric was. So barghast hasn't had to give out any new Fucking information. Well I don't fucking buy his bull shit It fucking smells to fucking heaven. I think he is a fucking symp.


Edited for grammar
Edited cause I was on my phone


They're probably buying my reveal because 1) They are scum and don't want to look like, well, you; 2) It's easier to just kill me off than try and push a lynch on me; and 3) I'd bet other people have similar information. You are basically admitting you don't have this information.

And who said anything about finding? I said I had information. It's none of your business who or what gave me this information. It's not my problem if you don't find the information useful.

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Posted 18 March 2011 - 05:33 PM

View PostBarghast, on 18 March 2011 - 05:26 PM, said:

You are somewhere between a rock and clueless, Korabas...


Be that as it may. Your reveal is absolutely useless and looks and smells like bullshit. It also conveniently enough came after you had several votes and were looking at a possible lynch. There are so many things wrong with your reveal that I would be in the wrong if I didn't point them out. EVEN if your everything you say you are it is still a bullshit reveal. If I was a symp in this game it is a reveal that I would have loved to have made. Which are moves that I watch out for. Symps know there masters right. Well a reveal like yours is perfectly made for covering for scum.

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Posted 18 March 2011 - 05:33 PM

yawn
sorry guys, I passed out reading a textbook yesterday.

I see there was a lynch?

intereresting.

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Posted 18 March 2011 - 05:38 PM

View PostBarghast, on 18 March 2011 - 05:33 PM, said:

View PostKorabas, on 18 March 2011 - 05:13 PM, said:

View PostBarghast, on 18 March 2011 - 03:25 PM, said:

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For all of GL's messiness, he probably puts more thought into his cases than anyone else. He remembers key details. I tend to find scum miss details because they are more focused on their own agendas and not the small stuff..


First off are you on crack? If so please share. as no one else has called you on this obvious bullshit I will.

Since when does mother fucking scum play loosy fucking goosy! Good fucking scum don't... why cause the fucking know that any fucking thing out of mother fucking place will be the fucking thing that loses them the fucking game. If anything scum play the exact fucking opposite if what you just described. Scum need to know everything that people fucking post so that they can keep the fucking sheep baaaing in the fucking direction that scum needs.

Also while I am at it Why are you other guys just buying his reveal. Neither liosan or rashan can comment if barghast is right or not. So it isn't like he can validate himself in anyway possible.

It is a fucking great reveal if your scum. Especially if your a symp. Shhhittt he isn't claiming a full fucking finder just if people can kill or not. Fuck I don't buy it for a second. He doesn't have to prove anything and we have no way to validate it. So it is a bunch of nothing. If your a symp then you know who your masters are and can cover them. What cover does he use that he finds out if some one is a sentry. Which was motherfucking what osseric was. So barghast hasn't had to give out any new Fucking information. Well I don't fucking buy his bull shit It fucking smells to fucking heaven. I think he is a fucking symp.


Edited for grammar
Edited cause I was on my phone


They're probably buying my reveal because 1) They are scum and don't want to look like, well, you; 2) It's easier to just kill me off than try and push a lynch on me; and 3) I'd bet other people have similar information. You are basically admitting you don't have this information.

And who said anything about finding? I said I had information. It's none of your business who or what gave me this information. It's not my problem if you don't find the information useful.


Your right I don't have any fucking information cause I'm a RI. Honestly based on how I have played in this game does it look like I am a sheep. The only reason I voted for Omtose was because he represented a big ?. Not because I think that he was scum. I doubt that he was. But he had to be lynched because as long as he was in the game scum can use him as cover.

Exactly saying you have information is even better then saying your a finder. Cause you know that a finder can't reveal as a finder. My god it is a better and better symp reveal. Honestly I almost want to tip my hat off to you. It could have been a brilliant move. But that bullshit about scum not paying attention to the game because they are focused on their own little scenarios made me go back and reread your last posts. And it was such obvious bullshit that I couldn't not say anything.

Editted to add the last paragraph.

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Posted 18 March 2011 - 05:40 PM

View PostKorabas, on 18 March 2011 - 05:33 PM, said:

View PostBarghast, on 18 March 2011 - 05:26 PM, said:

You are somewhere between a rock and clueless, Korabas...


Be that as it may. Your reveal is absolutely useless and looks and smells like bullshit. It also conveniently enough came after you had several votes and were looking at a possible lynch. There are so many things wrong with your reveal that I would be in the wrong if I didn't point them out. EVEN if your everything you say you are it is still a bullshit reveal. If I was a symp in this game it is a reveal that I would have loved to have made. Which are moves that I watch out for. Symps know there masters right. Well a reveal like yours is perfectly made for covering for scum.


I enjoy playing this game with you, and it's sad that my time is likely coming to an end, but you are playing this anger up a little too much. You said my "reveal" came when *gasp* I had a few votes on me? Well no shit, Sherlock. I had to give up some information or get lynched during my evening/night. The only good thing is my information is completely spent. My death will mean little.

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Posted 18 March 2011 - 05:41 PM

View PostKorabas, on 18 March 2011 - 05:38 PM, said:

View PostBarghast, on 18 March 2011 - 05:33 PM, said:

View PostKorabas, on 18 March 2011 - 05:13 PM, said:

View PostBarghast, on 18 March 2011 - 03:25 PM, said:

.
For all of GL's messiness, he probably puts more thought into his cases than anyone else. He remembers key details. I tend to find scum miss details because they are more focused on their own agendas and not the small stuff..


First off are you on crack? If so please share. as no one else has called you on this obvious bullshit I will.

Since when does mother fucking scum play loosy fucking goosy! Good fucking scum don't... why cause the fucking know that any fucking thing out of mother fucking place will be the fucking thing that loses them the fucking game. If anything scum play the exact fucking opposite if what you just described. Scum need to know everything that people fucking post so that they can keep the fucking sheep baaaing in the fucking direction that scum needs.

Also while I am at it Why are you other guys just buying his reveal. Neither liosan or rashan can comment if barghast is right or not. So it isn't like he can validate himself in anyway possible.

It is a fucking great reveal if your scum. Especially if your a symp. Shhhittt he isn't claiming a full fucking finder just if people can kill or not. Fuck I don't buy it for a second. He doesn't have to prove anything and we have no way to validate it. So it is a bunch of nothing. If your a symp then you know who your masters are and can cover them. What cover does he use that he finds out if some one is a sentry. Which was motherfucking what osseric was. So barghast hasn't had to give out any new Fucking information. Well I don't fucking buy his bull shit It fucking smells to fucking heaven. I think he is a fucking symp.


Edited for grammar
Edited cause I was on my phone


They're probably buying my reveal because 1) They are scum and don't want to look like, well, you; 2) It's easier to just kill me off than try and push a lynch on me; and 3) I'd bet other people have similar information. You are basically admitting you don't have this information.

And who said anything about finding? I said I had information. It's none of your business who or what gave me this information. It's not my problem if you don't find the information useful.


Your right I don't have any fucking information cause I'm a RI. Honestly based on how I have played in this game does it look like I am a sheep. The only reason I voted for Omtose was because he represented a big ?. Not because I think that he was scum. I doubt that he was. But he had to be lynched because as long as he was in the game scum can use him as cover.


The idea that someone is still trying to claim "RI" in a game of Spycraft is such a joke. Did you completely miss the first two games?

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Posted 18 March 2011 - 05:45 PM

this isn't like the first 2 games though. it's a mini, that's meant o be a straightforward "Syndicate v Agents" game.

anyhow, I can't add much more about Omtose. and I gotta run to class. ill check up on my phone to see if we get teh CF anytime soon.

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Posted 18 March 2011 - 05:48 PM

View PostBarghast, on 18 March 2011 - 05:41 PM, said:

View PostKorabas, on 18 March 2011 - 05:38 PM, said:

View PostBarghast, on 18 March 2011 - 05:33 PM, said:

View PostKorabas, on 18 March 2011 - 05:13 PM, said:

View PostBarghast, on 18 March 2011 - 03:25 PM, said:

.
For all of GL's messiness, he probably puts more thought into his cases than anyone else. He remembers key details. I tend to find scum miss details because they are more focused on their own agendas and not the small stuff..


First off are you on crack? If so please share. as no one else has called you on this obvious bullshit I will.

Since when does mother fucking scum play loosy fucking goosy! Good fucking scum don't... why cause the fucking know that any fucking thing out of mother fucking place will be the fucking thing that loses them the fucking game. If anything scum play the exact fucking opposite if what you just described. Scum need to know everything that people fucking post so that they can keep the fucking sheep baaaing in the fucking direction that scum needs.

Also while I am at it Why are you other guys just buying his reveal. Neither liosan or rashan can comment if barghast is right or not. So it isn't like he can validate himself in anyway possible.

It is a fucking great reveal if your scum. Especially if your a symp. Shhhittt he isn't claiming a full fucking finder just if people can kill or not. Fuck I don't buy it for a second. He doesn't have to prove anything and we have no way to validate it. So it is a bunch of nothing. If your a symp then you know who your masters are and can cover them. What cover does he use that he finds out if some one is a sentry. Which was motherfucking what osseric was. So barghast hasn't had to give out any new Fucking information. Well I don't fucking buy his bull shit It fucking smells to fucking heaven. I think he is a fucking symp.


Edited for grammar
Edited cause I was on my phone


They're probably buying my reveal because 1) They are scum and don't want to look like, well, you; 2) It's easier to just kill me off than try and push a lynch on me; and 3) I'd bet other people have similar information. You are basically admitting you don't have this information.

And who said anything about finding? I said I had information. It's none of your business who or what gave me this information. It's not my problem if you don't find the information useful.


Your right I don't have any fucking information cause I'm a RI. Honestly based on how I have played in this game does it look like I am a sheep. The only reason I voted for Omtose was because he represented a big ?. Not because I think that he was scum. I doubt that he was. But he had to be lynched because as long as he was in the game scum can use him as cover.


The idea that someone is still trying to claim "RI" in a game of Spycraft is such a joke. Did you completely miss the first two games?


No I am very very very familiar with all aspects of spycraft, and I know that in this spycraft mini there are RI. Because it isn't a faction game with different spying agencies going after each other and trying to stop the syndicate. It is a spy agency going after the syndicate. Thus the syndicate is cast in the traditional role of town and contains RI's. True a RI at one level might gain some actions at another level but he, she, or it, is still a RI. Or to be specific a Roled syndicate.

So what exactly is your point. That you played in the first two games and now think that they have something to do with this game other then the story and character carry over and how tapper uses leveling. If it is then your wrong.

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Posted 18 March 2011 - 05:52 PM

View PostKalse, on 18 March 2011 - 12:36 PM, said:

View PostKorabas, on 18 March 2011 - 11:42 AM, said:

View PostKalse, on 18 March 2011 - 11:18 AM, said:

View PostPath-Shaper, on 17 March 2011 - 10:02 AM, said:

TIGER used the distraction of the gun fight to slip into the mansion, tip-toeing over the ancient oak floorboards, always aware of the possibility they might actually be a nightingale trap. Melting into the shadows, he easily avoided a large group of men rushing to the lead exchange, then was almost discovered by a straggler. He followed the target, so close he could feel the man's body heat at times. Almost casually, he aimed the blowgun he carried on his hip - airgun was perhaps a better word - and squeezed the trigger, releasing the air-pressure and punching a conical poison dart into the neck of his victim, closing his mouth with his other hand and bringing him gently down to the floor.

Osseric is dead. He was Silencer, and Agung Redjosentono, a Syndicate Sentry.

Everyone is now level 1, 10 players remaining.




So someone has been using the Omtose Vs HP debacle as cover for their scummy business. Most of us ignored this player, either he seemed harmless/on our side/ or was simply not there when shit was going down. But one player, the straggler, was on to this player, for at least a little while, almost blowing the scum's cover, while the rest of us were rushing ahead to lynch either Omtose or HP.





View PostBarghast, on 17 March 2011 - 04:46 AM, said:

Well I still think Korabas is the better vote.


View PostBarghast, on 18 March 2011 - 01:11 AM, said:

This is ridiculous. You guys are calling me scum over a guy like GL... incredible. I am not scum, and I do not know who is, but I do know some information about some of the other people in the game. I am not going to tell you how this information came to me.


I am reasonably sure (at this point) that Osseric was as close to "RI" as you're going to get in this game. He was a Syndicate Sentry. I believe the Sentries are the "generic" players for the Syndicate. Omtose has indicated he is "RI" and if you believe him, that means he is also a Sentry.

I know for a fact that Liosan is *not* a Sentry and Rashan *is* a Sentry. I don't know if they are Syndicate or Agents. However, I do know that neither one has a killing action. Maybe they didn't start with one and gained it, I can't say. But if you are trying to narrow down your list of suspects to people who have been able to kill, you have to rule out both Liosan and Rashan.

My bet would be on Korabas or GL... just for the stuff I've already said. I'm also somewhat suspicious of Merrid but that's because he's getting no attention. In a game like that, it usually indicates a good ability by the scum to hide their powerful members, but I don't know if it's vote-worthy.



View PostRashan, on 18 March 2011 - 06:24 AM, said:

Barghast actually shifted the focus on GL or Korabas I believe, even though he hasn't "gathered info" on either of them yet. He never mentioned Omtose. i think Lio threw out his name because Barghasts reveal shed some question as to what Lios true side is.

As the only one to vote GL this whole game I have to agree with Barghast that GL definately needs to be looked at. I'm not so sure about Korabas. I've felt that both Korabas and Ruse has been very under the radar this whole game. I'll have to take a closer look at all three of them tomorrow.

I'm glad I don't have to make any hasty decisions before bed.

Hope everyone enjoyed their St Patrick's Day. I enjoyed a pitcher of beer while being entertained by some great basketball games. The great thing about March Madness is that there is a whole nother day to do it all over again.



Three names keep cropping up:

Korabas, who did not particpiate in any of the trains. For the first one he was "offline" when all the important stuff happened, and for the second train he placed his vote quite firmly on me, thus explaining his absence from the Omtose Vs HP discussion.

Merrid:Who has been getting almost no attention at all during this game, except for some flak during the first train, and two votes, one of which were switched to Fener later on.

And Ruse, who made a good case in the Omtose vs HP debate, but hasn't really drawn much attention to himself before or after that. His sort of just there.

I think it's probable that one of these three is TIGER...


Anyone else flying under the radar that I've missed?


Your logic is quite good. However you left yourself out. Yesterday I tried to convince people that you were scum and that you needed to be lynched. Nobody else liked it very much but that scene could be talking about that.
The other one that it could have been talking about is Rashan. He was under no pressure but HP was talking to him about a possible finder role and yesterday he was mentioned as possible scum.

So based on your thoughts TIGER could be half of the remaining players in the game. I agree he could be. He could also be someone like amp or GL or really anyone at all. The scene is ambiguous enough to leave room for any number of theories.

I think that Barghast is probably a symp, and would much rather lynch you then him. But if I need to change my vote to get a lynch I will.

Vote Kalse




Well neither Amp or GL really qualifies as people who're flying under the radar. Rashan is an option yes, but if Barghast's reveal is anything to go by, Rashan is either innocent, or a low-level scum with no killing action (if I read that right?), who might have gained a killing action when we all leveled up, but that was after Osseric died, which sorta rules Rashan out as TIGER.

And yes, in the scene you could be the straggler, and I could be TIGER, but I know it isn't. If a lynch is what is required to prove that, then that's a price I'll pay gladly.

Anyway, if Barghast is innocent, it would be weird for him to "symp" me if I'm scum...



You did not read that right. I, for one, believe Barghast's reveal is truthful, as I know my role in the game. Liosan was the one that he wasn't sure if he was a syndiacate or a low level scum player with no killing ablility. After this post I'm now leaning towards a Kalse or Liosan lynch. Liosan just to get some clarity on Barghast's reveal and Kalse for accusing me of being an agent after we had a reveal that basically cleared me of bing scum.

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Posted 18 March 2011 - 05:52 PM

View PostBarghast, on 18 March 2011 - 05:40 PM, said:

View PostKorabas, on 18 March 2011 - 05:33 PM, said:

View PostBarghast, on 18 March 2011 - 05:26 PM, said:

You are somewhere between a rock and clueless, Korabas...


Be that as it may. Your reveal is absolutely useless and looks and smells like bullshit. It also conveniently enough came after you had several votes and were looking at a possible lynch. There are so many things wrong with your reveal that I would be in the wrong if I didn't point them out. EVEN if your everything you say you are it is still a bullshit reveal. If I was a symp in this game it is a reveal that I would have loved to have made. Which are moves that I watch out for. Symps know there masters right. Well a reveal like yours is perfectly made for covering for scum.


I enjoy playing this game with you, and it's sad that my time is likely coming to an end, but you are playing this anger up a little too much. You said my "reveal" came when *gasp* I had a few votes on me? Well no shit, Sherlock. I had to give up some information or get lynched during my evening/night. The only good thing is my information is completely spent. My death will mean little.


Kisses. I posted that first post on my phone and work has been busy. Half the time things carry over from one to the other. Sorry about that. As you can see now I am posting off a computer and calmer. Nice touch with knowing your going to die. Personally I don't see why scum would bother to kill you. If you are what you say you are you can't reveal any kind of real information and if your what I think you are then scum can just leave you alive and let you throw up more cover. It was almost a brilliant symp move.

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Posted 18 March 2011 - 05:55 PM

View PostRashan, on 18 March 2011 - 05:52 PM, said:


You did not read that right. I, for one, believe Barghast's reveal is truthful, as I know my role in the game. Liosan was the one that he wasn't sure if he was a syndiacate or a low level scum player with no killing ablility. After this post I'm now leaning towards a Kalse or Liosan lynch. Liosan just to get some clarity on Barghast's reveal and Kalse for accusing me of being an agent after we had a reveal that basically cleared me of bing scum.


According to barghast you to could be scum. All he says is that he has information that says that you can't kill as of when he got his information on you.

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Posted 18 March 2011 - 05:57 PM

@Rashan, I didn't clear you. You could be an Agent Sentry for all I know... might be a "symp" role in the sense that the Agents have one agent infiltrating the enemy and masquerading as one.

@Korabas, Brilliant as it were, it was pretty much your typical move for someone who could get lynched with valuable information. I would love to keep playing. I don't usually survive to the end of games anymore.

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