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#601 User is offline   Merrid 

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Posted 04 March 2011 - 08:00 PM

Crosspost with HP.

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Posted 04 March 2011 - 08:02 PM

View PostMerrid, on 04 March 2011 - 07:59 PM, said:

View PostHood, on 04 March 2011 - 07:52 PM, said:

View PostSilanah, on 04 March 2011 - 07:42 PM, said:

View PostHood, on 04 March 2011 - 07:22 PM, said:

View PostMerrid, on 04 March 2011 - 07:07 PM, said:

View PostKorabas, on 04 March 2011 - 06:58 PM, said:

Whoever was recruited to team J from this last card game, can you tell us who you know above you from your previous team? It would be great to know 100% who to focus on next without any guess work.




Yes, that would be great. You've just admitted you're on Team J. Now everyone knows who they can target.

Besides, if HP is right and Tiam was the Team Z Second, then the Life below him doesn't know the Captain. And since Captain J killed the Life lost by Team K, the life traded to Team J is from Team Z and the person above this life is dead. Sorry, pal.

Of course, if you are really devious, then you're either an FM or Captain Z (and you know that the Life you traded away can't betray you). You voted for me, and everyone thinks I'm Team K - so you aren't on Team K. Even if I do get lynched, you've just outed yourself as either a highly wanted fugitive (FM or Captain Z) or a member of Team J. Really, there's no downside to lynching you unless the person voting is on Team J. And if you aren't, then you're a major player at this point.


Well that might not be totally true. If the life below the second moved up and became the second which is suppose to be what happened then they might have found out the captains name. I wouldn't count that possibility. Although I doubt that they will just come out and reveal their previous captains name. But hey stranger things have happened and this game is stagnate.



The rules of the game state that you must play for your current team. If you get recruited to team A..but were on Team B and Knew the leader, i think it's required by rule that you out the team B leader unless you feel that it would hurt Team A's (your new team) winning chances. You can't count on being traded back and holding your info in hopes of improving your situation should you get shuffled again. Thats how I read the rules... now, there is a lot of leeway there and you could explain why you think outing team B's leader would be bad.. I just hope we are all playing by the honor code here.


I don't know if it is required by the rules for a person to out their previous known leader. There have been several players transferred back and forth but only one has managed to out his last known contact. Which is why we are now voting for Merrid.

I don't think that outing team Z (or :) leader would be a bad thing. I was pointing out to merrid that it is possible for a life to have moved up and to then found out who the Z leader was. It seems to me that a low ranked life might want to be sure of his teams positioning before committing totally to that team. But I could just be a suspicious bastard.


I don't think this can happen. The rules don't mention anything about moving up if the person above you dies. If it was true, and Tiam was the Second, then someone should have moved into his place. If someone moved into the Second's place, then he would have been wagered and cashed in on the last hand. But instead the member from Team Z got traded, meaning they couldn't have been the Second or the Captain (and we're fairly certain only 1 member of Team Z is left).

The rules do say if the Captain dies, his Second takes his place, but they also say if the Captain AND Second die, the faction is dissolved and members are distributed. Lives never move up, ever.


Oh your too late. See above post :)

But thanks for playing. Next game is who can fart the loudest and light it on fire.

#603 User is offline   Merrid 

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Posted 04 March 2011 - 08:03 PM

View PostKorabas, on 04 March 2011 - 07:56 PM, said:

View PostRuse, on 04 March 2011 - 07:51 PM, said:

View PostKorabas, on 04 March 2011 - 07:29 PM, said:

View PostRuse, on 04 March 2011 - 07:21 PM, said:

View PostMerrid, on 04 March 2011 - 07:07 PM, said:

View PostKorabas, on 04 March 2011 - 06:58 PM, said:

Whoever was recruited to team J from this last card game, can you tell us who you know above you from your previous team? It would be great to know 100% who to focus on next without any guess work.




Yes, that would be great. You've just admitted you're on Team J. Now everyone knows who they can target.

Besides, if HP is right and Tiam was the Team Z Second, then the Life below him doesn't know the Captain. And since Captain J killed the Life lost by Team K, the life traded to Team J is from Team Z and the person above this life is dead. Sorry, pal.

Of course, if you are really devious, then you're either an FM or Captain Z (and you know that the Life you traded away can't betray you). You voted for me, and everyone thinks I'm Team K - so you aren't on Team K. Even if I do get lynched, you've just outed yourself as either a highly wanted fugitive (FM or Captain Z) or a member of Team J. Really, there's no downside to lynching you unless the person voting is on Team J. And if you aren't, then you're a major player at this point.


I think he already outed himself about 2-3 pages ago.

@Korabas - Are you thinking about reveals? One plus would be maybe uncovering the most suspicious few to concentrate our lynches.



Sorry but I my reading comp isn't the best. Can you clarify this statement?


My writing presentation may be lacking as well. I mean if we can place everybody on a faction except a few, we can focus on them.


View PostKorabas, on 04 March 2011 - 07:34 PM, said:

View PostMerrid, on 04 March 2011 - 07:07 PM, said:

View PostKorabas, on 04 March 2011 - 06:58 PM, said:

Whoever was recruited to team J from this last card game, can you tell us who you know above you from your previous team? It would be great to know 100% who to focus on next without any guess work.




Yes, that would be great. You've just admitted you're on Team J. Now everyone knows who they can target.

Besides, if HP is right and Tiam was the Team Z Second, then the Life below him doesn't know the Captain. And since Captain J killed the Life lost by Team K, the life traded to Team J is from Team Z and the person above this life is dead. Sorry, pal.

Of course, if you are really devious, then you're either an FM or Captain Z (and you know that the Life you traded away can't betray you). You voted for me, and everyone thinks I'm Team K - so you aren't on Team K. Even if I do get lynched, you've just outed yourself as either a highly wanted fugitive (FM or Captain Z) or a member of Team J. Really, there's no downside to lynching you unless the person voting is on Team J. And if you aren't, then you're a major player at this point.


Where have you been? I've outed myself as team J ages ago when I voted for you based on Amp's reveal. Though in hindsight I should have waited until the results of the last hand before I did it to make sure that we had the numbers but this game is going nowhere and I'm trying to push it towards it's conclusion. And thanks to you, GL and Kalse falling into my trap we now know that you three are on team K.


On a side note. Has anyone else noticed that neither Rashan nor Fener has posted in over a day?



I did notice that. Also, can you explain your trap (sorry if I'm being obtuse) for the studio audience?



When I put my vote out there for Merrid if everyone from team K just sacraficed him instead of voting for me we would have no idea who they are.


If this happened to be true, the trap springs both ways... With only 3 players alive not on Team K or Team J (FM1, FM2?, Captain Z), everyone who votes for me becomes a target as well. The FMs and Captain Z might just as easily target you as me, and Team J and Team K would both be happy if they caught an FM or Captain Z instead of the rival faction.

An unfortunate side effect of voting.

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Posted 04 March 2011 - 08:04 PM

View PostHood, on 04 March 2011 - 08:02 PM, said:

Oh your too late. See above post :)

But thanks for playing. Next game is who can fart the loudest and light it on fire.


You're on. :)

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Posted 04 March 2011 - 08:04 PM

View PostRuse, on 04 March 2011 - 07:59 PM, said:

@ Korabas Oh, that trap. I was expecting a subtle manipulation spanning days and multiple posts.


Edit: Last sentence, and edit description


Ruse it should be obvious that Korbas doesn't do subtle manipulation spanning days. It is kind of refreshing to have a steam ship straight ahead kind of player in the game.

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Posted 04 March 2011 - 08:06 PM

View PostMerrid, on 04 March 2011 - 08:04 PM, said:

View PostHood, on 04 March 2011 - 08:02 PM, said:

Oh your too late. See above post :)

But thanks for playing. Next game is who can fart the loudest and light it on fire.


You're on. :)


I thought that type of game would be right up your alley. :p

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Posted 04 March 2011 - 08:08 PM

13 Players still alive: barghast, fener, galayn lord, hood's path, kalse, korabas, liosan, merrid, omtose, osseric, rashan, ruse, silanah

7 votes to lynch, 7 votes to go to night.

4 Votes for merrid ( korabas, omtose, hood's path, silanah )
4 Votes for korabas ( kalse, galayn lord, merrid, osseric )

Players not voted: barghast, fener, liosan, rashan, ruse

this mod is going to a party, play nice
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Posted 04 March 2011 - 08:08 PM

View PostMerrid, on 04 March 2011 - 08:03 PM, said:


If this happened to be true, the trap springs both ways... With only 3 players alive not on Team K or Team J (FM1, FM2?, Captain Z), everyone who votes for me becomes a target as well. The FMs and Captain Z might just as easily target you as me, and Team J and Team K would both be happy if they caught an FM or Captain Z instead of the rival faction.

An unfortunate side effect of voting.


I am not totally sold on the 2 FM thing. I would like to think that if there were two FM's then one of them would have been able to make a transfer so far. I would find it absolutely hilarious if they both were targeting the same person who then got cashed in TWICE. :)

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Posted 04 March 2011 - 08:11 PM

Ruse you can go ahead and vote now. Half of the board has laid down votes.

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Posted 04 March 2011 - 08:15 PM

I don't think we are getting a resolution before the break unless Ruse's leader comes out and votes soon.

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Posted 04 March 2011 - 08:17 PM

Yeah, the 2 FM thing seems kind of off... but if there weren't, we either have a mystery role, or the teams were unbalanced to start.

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Posted 04 March 2011 - 08:20 PM

I hadn't really considered the teams being unbalanced, but that would fuck up any sort of calculation concerning faction numbers. I'm not convinced there is a second FM, either, but for the sake of convenience I was referring to the unknown player/role as such.

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Posted 04 March 2011 - 08:22 PM

View PostSilanah, on 04 March 2011 - 08:17 PM, said:

Yeah, the 2 FM thing seems kind of off... but if there weren't, we either have a mystery role, or the teams were unbalanced to start.


That could be a possibility. Of course someone said that we might have a special circumstances agent in the game. Why a SCA would bother to involve themselves in a game like this only they know.

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Posted 04 March 2011 - 08:42 PM

View PostKorabas, on 04 March 2011 - 07:51 PM, said:

View PostOsseric, on 04 March 2011 - 07:45 PM, said:

Jelungas got majotity?

Bah

vote Korabas

bet 3




Yay!!

Here's another team K member.



yes, whatever. although I am yet to hear why Zakalves would want Cracklin dead over a jelunga

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Posted 04 March 2011 - 08:44 PM

View PostSilanah, on 04 March 2011 - 08:17 PM, said:

Yeah, the 2 FM thing seems kind of off... but if there weren't, we either have a mystery role, or the teams were unbalanced to start.



I tol you already, it's probably the cultist.
see game 17.

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Posted 04 March 2011 - 08:44 PM

View PostSilanah, on 04 March 2011 - 08:15 PM, said:

I don't think we are getting a resolution before the break unless Ruse's leader comes out and votes soon.



But I thought YOU were my leader!!

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Posted 04 March 2011 - 08:45 PM

View PostHood, on 04 March 2011 - 08:22 PM, said:

View PostSilanah, on 04 March 2011 - 08:17 PM, said:

Yeah, the 2 FM thing seems kind of off... but if there weren't, we either have a mystery role, or the teams were unbalanced to start.


That could be a possibility. Of course someone said that we might have a special circumstances agent in the game. Why a SCA would bother to involve themselves in a game like this only they know.


bercasu Dibs threw tham i ast tme, w had an amost detica tup sans the poker?

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Posted 04 March 2011 - 08:45 PM

View PostRuse, on 04 March 2011 - 08:44 PM, said:

View PostSilanah, on 04 March 2011 - 08:15 PM, said:

I don't think we are getting a resolution before the break unless Ruse's leader comes out and votes soon.



But I thought YOU were my leader!!



no, I"M YOUR LEADER

now, vote Korabas, you git.

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Posted 04 March 2011 - 08:54 PM

View PostOsseric, on 04 March 2011 - 08:45 PM, said:

View PostRuse, on 04 March 2011 - 08:44 PM, said:

View PostSilanah, on 04 March 2011 - 08:15 PM, said:

I don't think we are getting a resolution before the break unless Ruse's leader comes out and votes soon.



But I thought YOU were my leader!!



no, I"M YOUR LEADER

now, vote Korabas, you git.


Wait I thought that you were the FM?

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Posted 04 March 2011 - 09:02 PM

Ruse do whatever you think is in your best interest. If you are team J then vote Merrid. If you are team K then vote me. If you are team Z then vote whoever you don't like. If you are one of the other two players well you are the wild cards so our fate is probably in your hands as the numbers seem fairly even.

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