[Coltaine -]

It is actually a bit random. Normally Nito or Seath first, espacially if I can use the White or Blue Chunks. Sometimes I do BoC first, for the Maggot. But the Four Kings are normally last. I always want to have a +15 Weapon before I start that fight.

You can find the Sealer Set in Blight Town. No need to kill Ingward. I also don't think that he drops it.

The humanitites from the babies despawn very fast, if I remember correctly. I never used this farming spot much. I'm also more a fan of the sewers, with a the gold serprent ring.

You keep your estus upgrades, and everything else you found and upgraded in the first playthrough. But you can only max your estus flasks to +7.

[Traveller]

Standing up to your ankles in water in a deep cave, harvesting dead baby skeletons that are trying to kill you = Dark Souls!

I still think its the better spot - with the Gold Serpent Ring, I would just keep going up and down the ramp; lure and then two handed to take them all out. Repeat. I never left with less than 50 or 60 humanity.

Crystal Caves boss run - you'll get it. You can dodge everything on the way, and pretty soon you'll see those invisible walkways - pick a landmark at the end you can run towards each time.

If you don't like that wait until the Bed of Chaos...

This post has been edited by Traveller: 15 March 2017 - 07:40 AM

[WinterPhoenix]

- Coltaine -, on 15 March 2017 - 07:24 AM, said:

It is actually a bit random. Normally Nito or Seath first, espacially if I can use the White or Blue Chunks. Sometimes I do BoC first, for the Maggot. But the Four Kings are normally last. I always want to have a +15 Weapon before I start that fight.

You can find the Sealer Set in Blight Town. No need to kill Ingward. I also don't think that he drops it.

The humanitites from the babies despawn very fast, if I remember correctly. I never used this farming spot much. I'm also more a fan of the sewers, with a the gold serprent ring.

You keep your estus upgrades, and everything else you found and upgraded in the first playthrough. But you can only max your estus flasks to +7.

Bleh, you're right about the Sealer Set, I can't remember what killing Ingward actually gets you, except netting the key to fight the 4 Kings early.

I've done Bed of Chaos first before in the past as well, but it's usually Nito then Seath. The thing with BoC is if you are lucky it's the easiest fight in the game bar none, the problem being even after playing through the game so many times skill is still no substitute for luck. Don't think I have ever completed the BoC in one run...

Yeah pretty much the only things you don't keep are any key items such as the Lordvessel, key for the 4 Kings etc. Obviously all stories, Logan, Lautrec, ringing the Bells etc are reset as well. Apart from that you keep damn near everything.

I can't remember, do you need to the Rusted Iron Ring to move properly for the baby skeleton farm?

As for the Crystal Cave you'll hate me for saying this but if you care about trophies you should go back after beating Seath, one of the invisible pathways (the worst one) leads to the Blue Titanite Slab needed for maxing certain weapon types, but frankly it's such a nightmare getting across and back you're way better off just suiciding yourself. Eventually if you do it enough times in quicky succession you'll memorise the invisible paths, but my tip for doing them to begin with, have a good supply of arrows (I mean loads) and walk with your bow aimed just in front of your feet, keep firing arrows into the floor, if they stick you're safe basically.

[Traveller]

All the fires you boost stay into NG+ so it's worth going around kindling as many as possible if you plan a second run though. (Which is quite easy to start, as you just want to see how difficult it is, then before you know it...)

[WinterPhoenix]

Traveller, on 15 March 2017 - 01:37 PM, said:

All the fires you boost stay into NG+ so it's worth going around kindling as many as possible if you plan a second run though. (Which is quite easy to start, as you just want to see how difficult it is, then before you know it...)

This pretty much. Kept going to NG+4 myself just to see how difficult it gets, then I lost that save because my old 360 died. Think my current 360 has a save at NG++ but I bought a PS4 and don't play the 360 very much any more. If I'm not mistaken the enemies keep getting more health until NG+7 right?

[Coltaine -]

The water in the chamber with the baby skeletons is very shallow. No rusted iron ring required.

Prism Stones can also help a lot to get the Blue Titanite Chunk. You find 20 of them before you reach the Garden with the Blue Golems in a chest, if I remember correctly. If you drop them at the ground they while shine in different colours. If there is no ground you will hear a scream. Also snow flakes and arrows. And at some point the way makes a turn to the right.

On the other hand you can also get one somewhere in the DLC. So you will only need it if you intend to get all the upgrade achievements in one playthrough.

[WinterPhoenix]

- Coltaine -, on 15 March 2017 - 02:08 PM, said:

The water in the chamber with the baby skeletons is very shallow. No rusted iron ring required.

Prism Stones can also help a lot to get the Blue Titanite Chunk. You find 20 of them before you reach the Garden with the Blue Golems in a chest, if I remember correctly. If you drop them at the ground they while shine in different colours. If there is no ground you will hear a scream. Also snow flakes and arrows. And at some point the way makes a turn to the right.

On the other hand you can also get one somewhere in the DLC. So you will only need it if you intend to get all the upgrade achievements in one playthrough.

Oh yes forgot about the prism stones and the extra Blue Slab from the DLC. This thread is making me realise how long it's been since I really played and how much I have managed to forget without realising! But yeah you will need both if you want to do all upgrade achievements in one go, the invisible pathways are annoying as hell though, but with arrows and keen observation of the snowflakes they become easier.

[Coltaine -]

WinterPhoenix, on 15 March 2017 - 02:07 PM, said:

Traveller, on 15 March 2017 - 01:37 PM, said:

All the fires you boost stay into NG+ so it's worth going around kindling as many as possible if you plan a second run though. (Which is quite easy to start, as you just want to see how difficult it is, then before you know it...)

This pretty much. Kept going to NG+4 myself just to see how difficult it gets, then I lost that save because my old 360 died. Think my current 360 has a save at NG++ but I bought a PS4 and don't play the 360 very much any more. If I'm not mistaken the enemies keep getting more health until NG+7 right?

According to the wiki yes. NG+6 to NG+7 is the last increase in difficulty. Actually I never finished a NG+. I always had to much fun with creating a new character and trying a different playstyle

[WinterPhoenix]

Just the idea of NG+7 Super-Ornstein scares me stiff lol

[EmperorMagus]

Well, I've gone through the demon ruins and killed the Sagefire Demon and the Centipede guy. Both of them took about a couple of tries. I dunno if it means the game is easier or whether I've gotten better. I'd bet on the former.

Now to go through the lava ...

[WinterPhoenix]

Oh man the lava, with all the lava T-Rex's Discretion is sometimes the better part of valor, I could never help myself, always had to try and kill them all with arrows, died so many times lol

Then on to the Bed of Chaos when you're through

[EmperorMagus]

WinterPhoenix, on 18 March 2017 - 04:39 AM, said:

Oh man the lava, with all the lava T-Rex's Discretion is sometimes the better part of valor, I could never help myself, always had to try and kill them all with arrows, died so many times lol

Then on to the Bed of Chaos when you're through

It's boring, but I'm just shooting the T Rex guys with my longbow. They can't touch me in my bonefire lair.

[EmperorMagus]

holy shit fk BoC.

I kill one root and suddenly the floor starts caving in. Needless to say, I did not survive.

Edit: I also found the Astora guy all crazy and had to kill him. Poor guy, knew he wasn't gonna survive the game.
He was a lot of help in killing S&O

This post has been edited by EmperorMagus: 18 March 2017 - 05:57 AM

[Coltaine -]

Nooo. Solaire. You could have saved him

[amphibian]

Dragon butts is what they are.

[EmperorMagus]

I swear to god, next time I see patches, he is going to pay for that push.

Fucking bastard.

The sunlight maggot I got from the Astora guy is proving really useful.

[WinterPhoenix]

There is actually a series of things you can do that save Solaire, in doing so you can actually summon him for the final fight as well. It involves giving alot (30 I think) of humanity to the chaos witch near the second bell (Queelag's sister) to level up in her covenant and open up a shortcut to Lost Izalith in so doing. The shortcut not only allows you to save Solaire - by destroying the maggot yourself and preventing him from ever interacting with it - but you can also skip the Demon Firesage and Centipede Demon fights entirely if you wish. Obviously you have to open this shortcut before Solaire gets to the maggot plus do all of his storyline before that to be able to summon him for the final fight.

Yeah once you get to the bonfire lair they are easy to pick off with arrows, I always tried to take on too many before I got there lol

Did you beat BoC then? That thing took me way more tries than any other boss on my first playthrough, seriously luck dependent, but if you make it through it isn't even really a fight.

Oh and let Patches live until you're done in the catacombs, you'll find him again later in a familiar location, think you can buy some stuff off him. Which I did, then I killed him lol

This post has been edited by WinterPhoenix: 19 March 2017 - 02:22 AM

[EmperorMagus]

WinterPhoenix, on 19 March 2017 - 02:21 AM, said:

There is actually a series of things you can do that save Solaire, in doing so you can actually summon him for the final fight as well. It involves giving alot (30 I think) of humanity to the chaos witch near the second bell (Queelag's sister) to level up in her covenant and open up a shortcut to Lost Izalith in so doing. The shortcut not only allows you to save Solaire - by destroying the maggot yourself and preventing him from ever interacting with it - but you can also skip the Demon Firesage and Centipede Demon fights entirely if you wish. Obviously you have to open this shortcut before Solaire gets to the maggot plus do all of his storyline before that to be able to summon him for the final fight.

Yeah once you get to the bonfire lair they are easy to pick off with arrows, I always tried to take on too many before I got there lol

Did you beat BoC then? That thing took me way more tries than any other boss on my first playthrough, seriously luck dependent, but if you make it through it isn't even really a fight.

Oh and let Patches live until you're done in the catacombs, you'll find him again later in a familiar location, think you can buy some stuff off him. Which I did, then I killed him lol

I admit it was frustrating enough that I watched a video on YouTube on how to do it. Once I watched the video though, it took me about 5-6 tries to get through both roots and make that jump. It was annoying, but no so difficult.

So far, the most difficult bosses I've had to kill have been Chaos Bitch and Capra.


Edit: Also murdered patches. He had that one coming. These Dog-Skeletons are freakin strong.

This post has been edited by EmperorMagus: 19 March 2017 - 02:25 AM

[WinterPhoenix]

EmperorMagus, on 19 March 2017 - 02:24 AM, said:

WinterPhoenix, on 19 March 2017 - 02:21 AM, said:

There is actually a series of things you can do that save Solaire, in doing so you can actually summon him for the final fight as well. It involves giving alot (30 I think) of humanity to the chaos witch near the second bell (Queelag's sister) to level up in her covenant and open up a shortcut to Lost Izalith in so doing. The shortcut not only allows you to save Solaire - by destroying the maggot yourself and preventing him from ever interacting with it - but you can also skip the Demon Firesage and Centipede Demon fights entirely if you wish. Obviously you have to open this shortcut before Solaire gets to the maggot plus do all of his storyline before that to be able to summon him for the final fight.

Yeah once you get to the bonfire lair they are easy to pick off with arrows, I always tried to take on too many before I got there lol

Did you beat BoC then? That thing took me way more tries than any other boss on my first playthrough, seriously luck dependent, but if you make it through it isn't even really a fight.

Oh and let Patches live until you're done in the catacombs, you'll find him again later in a familiar location, think you can buy some stuff off him. Which I did, then I killed him lol

I admit it was frustrating enough that I watched a video on YouTube on how to do it. Once I watched the video though, it took me about 5-6 tries to get through both roots and make that jump. It was annoying, but no so difficult.

So far, the most difficult bosses I've had to kill have been Chaos Bitch and Capra.


Edit: Also murdered patches. He had that one coming. These Dog-Skeletons are freakin strong.

Capra Demon was a bitch on my first time, took me more tries than anything except BoC. Though I think that might be because I eventually summoned for O&S, I still find that pair really difficult to deal with, but I got a strategy down for Capra. But my god that jump in the BoC fight! Took me at least 20 tries first go round!

[Traveller]

Yeah it's learning the knack of running to that ledge, angling slightly to the left, and hitting that branch, all without getting hit or falling off. Urg.

I always kill Patches, he did the same in Demon's Souls, the little bastard.

This post has been edited by Traveller: 19 March 2017 - 06:27 AM