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#1 User is offline   Hocknose 

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Posted 20 January 2011 - 10:01 AM

Just had a check through the topics in here and couldn't find one about this...

Was it explained who or what that fat thing with the crying baby's head was?
I'm talking about when Ivanr is taken back in time(?) by sister Gosh and he see's this monstrosity so decides to rugby tackle it!!!

reminded me of a chaos Daemon of Nurgle from Warhammer...
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Posted 20 January 2011 - 03:57 PM

i'm assuming it was some sort of manifestation of the lady, perhaps back in elder days, the lady was a far less together and her worship was more haphazard, making for quite the horrendous and irrational corporeal form
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Posted 20 January 2011 - 04:09 PM

I thought that at first, but then I remebered we got a glimpse of the lady in the prologue where she was scaly and amphibian like.

The descriptions seem so different...
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Posted 20 January 2011 - 04:13 PM

well, who knows how far back in time that warren took them. if it is a version of tellann they could have gone back way before the stormwall. i can't think of any other way to explain it, except that it may have been one of the CG chunks that was lost and in pain and regressed to an infantile stage

edit: also, throughout the book, the lady took many different forms. she was the giant scaly thing in the prologue, a bar of light and fire when she confronts kyle, a little girl in banith and thol. she could have taken this one in the past

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Posted 20 January 2011 - 04:30 PM

good point, I'd forgotten about the other forms she took.
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Posted 22 January 2011 - 08:13 AM

I simply assumed it was some sort of fleash golem. a construct formed of multiple bodies/creatures.

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Posted 29 June 2011 - 09:02 AM

I somehow assumed it was a cloud full of rain. The whole reason they performed this ritual with the baby, was because Sister Gosh wants rain:

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[Sister Gosh]: 'Need your help. Gotta run an errand.'

[Ivanr]: 'Go away.'

'No. Has to be you. In the blood, you could say.'

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She drew a slim wooden boxfrom her shawl, shook it. Something rattled within. 'Martal wants rain. We'regonna get her some.' She shook the box again. 'Skystones to bring it.'



They then go out of the camp, where Ivanr offers blood to an altar of ice, and the baby appears:

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He held out his left hand. She slit his palm in a swift – rather practised – flick. 'On the ice, now!'

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Ivanr knelt and ran his hand over the knotted lump.

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Something shook the ground to the north and Sister Gosh growled inher throat like a beast. He glanced over but saw nothing in the dark.

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A shape lumbered out of the dark. Its appearance almost sent Ivanr running. Very large, fully as tall as he, humanoid, yes, but more like a sculpture of flesh: pale fish-white, so obese as to seem poured of fat. And atop the heap of bulging flesh, a tiny baby's head, hairless, mouth wet with drool, babbling and crying.



Jool then kills the baby:

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Jool let out a shout then, the rattling of the box deafening. There was an eruption like a thunder blast directly overhead, accompanied by a blinding flash and the sound of multiple impacts thudding into the creature like sling bullets. It tottered, mewling and whimpering, and fell face forward.


Then Ivanr wakes up in his tent and observes:

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The downpour lasted all through the night. A cloudburst. As if all the month's rain had been stopped up only to come blasting out in a single night.


So the reason I assumed the baby was the cloud, was because of this last quote. A whole months rain stopped, filling and filling the clouds with rain - to me, that seemed like the baby, all stuffed with fat.

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Posted 29 June 2011 - 09:33 AM

I'm pretty sure the baby thing was there to stop them getting the rain they wanted... that they get from the ice?
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Posted 29 June 2011 - 08:52 PM

i think the last two posts basically have it, but i'll add that i think that the baby thing was the lady's direct involvement, attempting to deny rain to these rebels and unbelievers. but so near to the jaghut ice to the south, she couldn't properly manifest.
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Posted 12 July 2011 - 05:42 PM

I think that sculpture of flesh is from those lunatic villagers that mass murder each other, pretty much sacrifice for the Lady.
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Posted 13 July 2011 - 04:25 AM

View PostSanctume, on 12 July 2011 - 05:42 PM, said:

I think that sculpture of flesh is from those lunatic villagers that mass murder each other, pretty much sacrifice for the Lady.

hey that's not a bad idea either
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Posted 13 July 2011 - 12:17 PM

Maybe the Lady pulled the bodies out of that well to create the beastie...
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