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Who wins this fight between two of the great assassin characters of tMBotF?...Kalam Mekhar and his skills as a former Claw and Bridgeburner vs the deadly poison blades of Rallick Nom... Who is left standing in this one?
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Kalam Mekhar vs Rallick Nom (Spoilers!)
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Posted 07 December 2010 - 07:25 AM
Kalam. Easily. Rallick may have been top dog in the little kids pool, but Kalam played with the big dogs and was respected as one of the best that had thought for the Claw.
This really is a discussion on their knife fighting abilities and not so much the rest of the skills needed to be a good assassin.
Both of them lack a warren. So it becomes a question of reflexes, strength and experience. Kalam has more of everything.
This really is a discussion on their knife fighting abilities and not so much the rest of the skills needed to be a good assassin.
Both of them lack a warren. So it becomes a question of reflexes, strength and experience. Kalam has more of everything.
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Posted 07 December 2010 - 07:27 AM
Yeah, not much of a contest here, really. Kalam easily wins this.
Trouble arrives when the opponents to such a system institute its extreme opposite, where individualism becomes godlike and sacrosanct, and no greater service to any other ideal (including community) is possible. In such a system rapacious greed thrives behind the guise of freedom, and the worst aspects of human nature come to the fore....
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Posted 07 December 2010 - 10:00 AM
But Rallick has Crokus in his pocket 
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Posted 07 December 2010 - 10:52 AM
Rallick is considered second in the Daruhistan Guild. Kalam is considered the 4th?3rd? ( not sure if Topper is above him or not, although Pearl was sure Kalam would have won a knife fight) in the Empire. Comparing what Kalam has done in the books with Rallick's feats, there is no contest.
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Posted 07 December 2010 - 12:15 PM
(I didnt vote, because comparing assassins is useless - just because of nature of "īsin". Are they going to be stalking each other in big arena or what? If you turn off element of being assassin, I would vote for Brys as best assassin, because you are comparing only fighting power)
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Posted 07 December 2010 - 02:25 PM
Ulrik, on 07 December 2010 - 10:00 AM, said:
But Rallick has Crokus in his pocket 
Kalam has Quick Ben in his
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Posted 07 December 2010 - 02:36 PM
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Posted 07 December 2010 - 05:29 PM
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Posted 07 December 2010 - 06:53 PM
End of Disc One, on 07 December 2010 - 02:25 PM, said:
Ulrik, on 07 December 2010 - 10:00 AM, said:
But Rallick has Crokus in his pocket
Kalam has Quick Ben in his
But Quick isnt willing to be thrown, sacrificed, seduced...he is totally un-assassin duel guy
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Posted 10 November 2011 - 12:26 AM
ok Rallick is good...of course, he's no mage and that makes him even cooler and lots of people are afraid of him...
however!!!
Kalam...is repeatedly mentioned in the same vain as Topper...who is clearly number one with no disputes...well...except for Kalam.
Although if we're being fair...the two greatest assassins in the malazan world are
Dancer
without contest
and then either
Topper, Cowl or Kalam
Topper and Cowl have the mage abilities though
although in TBH I think pearl or someone mentions how Kalam would arguably own even topper if it was just blade on blade...
urgh although in TTH Cowl is mentioned in a mage duel with Rake himself...and the question stands...
'who blinked first...was it...cowl...or rake'
so
erm
urgh
greatest assassins ever
phew!!!
could be any of those three but im pretty sure Topper is better than Cowl, Kalam is the best with straight knives out of anyone
Rake is no mage...so meh
and Dancer would rape, ROFL and shiiiiitteeee on all of them at the same time
haha
however!!!
Kalam...is repeatedly mentioned in the same vain as Topper...who is clearly number one with no disputes...well...except for Kalam.
Although if we're being fair...the two greatest assassins in the malazan world are
Dancer
without contest
and then either
Topper, Cowl or Kalam
Topper and Cowl have the mage abilities though
although in TBH I think pearl or someone mentions how Kalam would arguably own even topper if it was just blade on blade...
urgh although in TTH Cowl is mentioned in a mage duel with Rake himself...and the question stands...
'who blinked first...was it...cowl...or rake'
so
erm
urgh
greatest assassins ever
phew!!!
could be any of those three but im pretty sure Topper is better than Cowl, Kalam is the best with straight knives out of anyone
Rake is no mage...so meh
and Dancer would rape, ROFL and shiiiiitteeee on all of them at the same time
haha
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Posted 10 November 2011 - 12:32 AM
I'm Sorry. You forgot Sorry. I mean Not Sorry. Not Apsalara. Sorry, I mean Apsalar, not Sorry.
Oh, nevermind.
Oh, nevermind.
Trouble arrives when the opponents to such a system institute its extreme opposite, where individualism becomes godlike and sacrosanct, and no greater service to any other ideal (including community) is possible. In such a system rapacious greed thrives behind the guise of freedom, and the worst aspects of human nature come to the fore....
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Posted 10 November 2011 - 04:16 PM
As much as I love Rallick and the house of Nom, the mind overwhelms the heart in this one and Kalam has to take it, however I think the actual battle woudl probably end up with both of them sittign in a pub somewhere drinking and watching Torvald and Karsa clean up town ;o)
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Posted 11 November 2011 - 12:58 AM
Silk, on 10 November 2011 - 04:16 PM, said:
As much as I love Rallick and the house of Nom, the mind overwhelms the heart in this one and Kalam has to take it, however I think the actual battle woudl probably end up with both of them sittign in a pub somewhere drinking and watching Torvald and Karsa clean up town ;o)
Pretty much agree with this.
Also, I think Kalam could beat either Topper or Cowl, depending on when in the series the fight is, and which blade he unsheathes first.
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Posted 11 November 2011 - 01:40 AM
Vaddon Ra, on 10 November 2011 - 12:26 AM, said:
could be any of those three but im pretty sure Topper is better than Cowl, Kalam is the best with straight knives out of anyone
Rake is no mage...so meh
and Dancer would rape, ROFL and shiiiiitteeee on all of them at the same time
haha
It could easily be argued that Rake is the most powerful mage in the series so I have no clue what you mean by Rake is no mage...
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