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#1 User is offline   HeWhoEatsBabies 

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Posted 10 November 2010 - 01:07 PM

Quick question, what is Rilk, the weapon carried by Ublala Pung?

Now this may seem a touch petty (and it is i guess), but well I always say if you're going to go to the effort of giving a weapon it's own name and history it only seems fair you're consistent in what it actually is.

Admittedly, this mostly comes from weapons playing a pretty big role in other series, from Druss' Snaga the Sender to Rands Callandor and Richard Rahls sword of truth. And possibly excessive amount of WoW/Diablo/Baldurs gate in years past. Mostly though I thought it was about time someone went around smashing peoples' heads in with a Mace for once. But then it became an axe, very disaapointing L

To the passages in questions, DoD page 534 Rilk is a Mace :

"Ublala brought up the mace first. Two-handed, the haft a thick, slightly bent shaft of bone, horn or antler, polished amber by antiquity. A gnarled socket of bronze capped its base. The head was vaguely shaped to form four battered bulbs – the ore was marled mercurial and deep blue."

By by DoD page 1003 it's a battleaxe,

"His Bleary, raw eyes settle on the battleaxe and he scowled. It wasn't even pretty was it. 'Smash,' he mumbled. 'Crush. Its name is Rilk, but it never says anything. How'd it tell anybody its name?"

Anyone think it's intentional? If not, i thought i'd put in my vote that when Rilk finally makes contact with someone's face it's a mace again. Good against undead are maces.

If this turns into a debate of which weapon is cooler so be it.

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Posted 10 November 2010 - 01:48 PM

Maybe its rather neolithic (eneolithic) mace, partly axe, more mace... It suits me for it is supposed to be old weapon from ancient Toblakai times.

something like this (but much more complicated and nice)

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Posted 10 November 2010 - 01:54 PM

Another quote states it as a mace... could be an error...

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"The ghost says there's a name for that armour," said Harlest, "even as the mace is named. First Heroes were wont to such affectations. This particular one, a Thelomen, haled from a region bordering the First Empire – in a land very distant – the same land the first Letherii came from, in fact. A belligerent bastard – his name is forgotten and best left that way. Take that armour, and the mace."


I speculated elsewhere that the armour that Ubala inherited could be the armour of the toblakai that was chained in the well in HoC

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Posted 10 November 2010 - 02:12 PM

put it this way - Ublala isn't ther most sophisticated of champions and the distinction is lost on him. :)
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Posted 10 November 2010 - 02:37 PM

With only 4 blades it would be axe like...

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since its old and fucked up.....the 4 bulbous shapes would probably be more like this

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so yea....mace/axe
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Posted 10 November 2010 - 03:12 PM

Yeah, lots of weapons could be both a blunt side to and a bladed side and be both. Especially if we are accepting, as Ulrik did, that it's preisthoric-type weapon.
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Posted 10 November 2010 - 04:57 PM

View Postdktorode, on 10 November 2010 - 02:37 PM, said:

With only 4 blades it would be axe like...

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since its old and fucked up.....the 4 bulbous shapes would probably be more like this

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so yea....mace/axe



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Posted 21 July 2014 - 04:24 PM

Was going to create a thread on this but found this one, good to see I'm not the only person that gets annoyed by things like this!

It took me a while to get an image of Rilk in my head, I searched online for some stone age mace heads, given as SE's an archaeologist I'm guessing this is where the inspiration for Rilk came from.

These are what I found and seems to be pretty close to the four bulbous shapes he mentions.

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Except made of blue meteorite or something instead of stone.

Was pretty chuffed for a while then BOOM, it's now a battleaxe. Raging.

"Crush or smash" doesn't seem to fit too well for a battleaxe... Do we just assume that Ublala is a brain donor and has no idea what it is?

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