[Korabas]

Serc I was killing you for not really doing anything. Same reasons I put tokens on all the other players I did. I just don't feel like writing down my reasoning in long convoluted posts to SH sometimes. This was one such game.

Fun times, guys. Thanks for the game.

[Omtose]

The game should continue until there's a clear winner or impasse.

I don't think Ruse can heal anymore, right?

[Hugin & Munin]

I think he should be able to heal still. The only thing that changed was his faction.

Silencer can give the verdict when he arrives.

[Hugin & Munin]

Atrahal wants to betray the eaters, and join the cult. He is on provisional to be recruited anyway, so this would make things very interesting.

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Right what would happen if I rat out Team Eater offering to the CL if there is one all my other team mates in return for being recruited to give team cult the win?

[Hugin & Munin]

Hugin & Munin, on 08 November 2010 - 07:43 PM, said:

@Silencer- Having 3/6 people on one faction does not constitute a majority voting block right? I'm thinking the game is still on since Eaters do not have the ability to lynch anyone on their own. Either way it gets interesting now.

You are correct. It's entirely possible for Eaters to vote night, however they do not have a voting MAJORITY which is the win condition.

Hugin & Munin, on 08 November 2010 - 08:42 PM, said:

Atrahal wants to betray the eaters, and join the cult. He is on provisional to be recruited anyway, so this would make things very interesting.

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Right what would happen if I rat out Team Eater offering to the CL if there is one all my other team mates in return for being recruited to give team cult the win?

Nice plan. Unfortunately for him, it would get him modkilled. Standard rules: you cannot do anything to hinder your own faction.


Ruse can still heal. The only reason Liosan lost his abilities is because he became the Leader. Ruse is just a recruit.

[Hugin & Munin]

Atrahal clarifying his question.

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Could I go and reveal ruse and serc as eaters hoping that I get recruited by the CL for giving them up and voting against them with the remaining players?

@Silencer, when you get on can you answer him? I said that imo he could do whatever he wanted, but to check with you first. I think it would be fun hehe. He'd out Ruse as an eater, which is now wrong. Plus is he on tap to be recruited anyway.

Off to class now.

[Hugin & Munin]

@silencer- ok, I sent a reply to Atrahal letting him know it was illegal to betray his team. Fun as it would have been hehe.

[Hugin & Munin]

Thanks, was just about to respond myself. XD

I know it could be awesome, but it is against the stated rules on-thread via the standard rules post, and I don't like randomly breaking rules in a game where I didn't leave provision for it (whereas in CFUM....yeah XD).

I will edit the scenes in for yesterday now, I think....

[Omtose]

Standard rules usually cause recruits to lose powers, too. Happened me to last game, but eh, your rules.

This post has been edited by Omtose: 08 November 2010 - 09:25 PM

[Hugin & Munin]

Nope, 'standard rules' for cult are entirely up to mod discretion, there's no basic outline for recruits.

[Hugin & Munin]

OK, interesting move here. Going to night is great, because Shinrei will have to hit Liosan for the vig to work, everyone else is immune.

We're waiting on Roldom/Silchas and Shinrei/Galain for actions, and they are going to have to think hard about who they vote. Lio may end up going down because of his leading night-vote.

Atrahal is in the best position, really, as Leader vig happens before recruit. XD

And of course, poor little HMQB, the Sabbat roleless, is just sitting there not really playing. Probably hoping like hell he gets recruited, lol.

[Hugin & Munin]

If I had a vig, I would be looking straight at Liosan. He has completely taken charge of the day, and that is a dangerous place to be in.

[Hugin & Munin]

Poor Atrahal, hehe

Liosan changes his provisional. Looks like he wants night to run the full time, in orrder to make a decision later. Though since we are still waiting on other actions, doesn't matter.

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I want to hold off on my provisional, on a mini reread, and based upon his statememnts today I think Atrahal might be the last SAbbat. I DONT want that. Please hold.

Provisional me on Silchas. but I will hopefully be back on to finalize before night ends.

[Omtose]

It's absolutely the right call. Atrahal is not any help whatsoever. He needs to recruit Galain. That would seal the win since he'd be unlynchable and unkillable.

[Hugin & Munin]

Liosan, on 08 November 2010 - 11:07 PM, said:

ok, NA in on Galain unless you hear different from me. He was the hammer on the Tiam Train ( A Sabbat) and folloed all 4 of my unknowns at this point.

Recruit Galain.

You kidding me? Nice call.

[Hugin & Munin]

Hugin & Munin, on 08 November 2010 - 10:32 PM, said:

If I had a vig, I would be looking straight at Liosan. He has completely taken charge of the day, and that is a dangerous place to be in.

This, however. It's easy to say from up here, but oh so true. His vote-night remove-vote vote-night thing was just too odd.

[Hugin & Munin]

Yup Galain is a great recruit choice. The game comes down to who Galain picks to vig.

[Hugin & Munin]

Silchas with his NA:

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so its up to me to win the game? who to poison

well i cant think of a good idea for liosan to pretend hes not an eater, so one suspicious cocktail for him,

Poison liosan

theres a high chance of me hitting my own team here, if i knew if i havent already been poisoned id be tempted to reveal myself and see what info i have, but theres to much chance ive already taken a hit, and im really expecting another one, glad someone else hit korabas, thought he was with us

posion Arathal

because ive already hit him and at least he will die (unless hes a leader, which im doubting)

could be on for my first victory unless i start hitting my own team, im now guessing theres only me and galain on team eater which is why we havent alreadt won, and have been hard to hit, id like to say galains done a good job of staying under the radar but theres going to be night actions galore tonight


can he alchemist himself? about to click post when i concidered this, which would mean theres no point in poisoning him and id be wasting my ability, im supposed to be getting ready for work but just cant decide to hit him or throw a shot a ruse.....

screw it ill stick with him

So Atrahal will die. Not sure on Liosan, I have to check how many tokens he has.

edit: nevermind on Liosan. He is being healed anyway, so he is good to go.

This post has been edited by Hugin & Munin: 08 November 2010 - 11:22 PM

[Hugin & Munin]

Galain misses.

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Ok... likely the choice I make here can help to make or break my team's chances. One reason we may not have won is because there is still a leader (and the OP makes me think that if more than one leader is alive, factions can't win even with majority).

Now. I am most likely going to fuck this up, because I really haven't been able to discern on thread what the relationships are. I really have no idea who might know who I am. So, if there is some glaring information that I'm missing, I'm hoping upon reaching Spoiler Heaven someone could do a little coaching.

Tulas Shorn - not a leader based on last night's vig. Eliminating him as a choice last night was good, I would probably have been vigging him tonight otherwise.
Ruse - Have very little idea
Atrahal - If Lio is telling the truth, either on eater team or Cult leader. He's been voting off Sabbat, so if not Di Lauro...
Lio - Remaining DiLauro (or cult). Going to assume Rashan was indeed DiLauro leader, so Lio is not a vig target.
Silchas Ruin - Unknown, but Merrid (Sabbat) kept voting for him. Signaling, to his Sabbat leader? Or didn't know who he was?

Basically my choice is between Silchas Ruin and Ruse.

Is Silchas Sabbat leader, despite the fact that Merrid, a Sabbat team member kept voting for him? Did he not know, or was distancing?
Or is it Ruse, who I'm really unsure of?

This is almost a coin toss, but I'm going with Gut.

Vig Ruse

For that night vote. And because Merrid voting his team leader again and again would be a little beyond signaling. If my reasoning is flawed, I don't have time (I'm already late for work) to work it out anymore.

So, it works out that: Liosan, Ruse, Galain are cult. Tulas is sabbat. Silchas is eater. That should give cult the necessary voting block to win. Silencer, you can call the game whenever you get back on.

[Hugin & Munin]

Silchas:

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is his heal a retro active ability, or does it work as a block aswell, he has to be able to heal himself otherwise he would of healed korbas instead

remove poison liosan

I don't think there is anywhere he can put a poison token to stop from losing the game. If he pulls a token from atrahal, then yes. Otherwise doesn't matter.

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Poison Tulas Shorn

It doesn't matter. Cult wins.

This post has been edited by Hugin & Munin: 08 November 2010 - 11:36 PM