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#1 User is offline   w_a 

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 04:20 AM

Perhaps you have all picked up on this already...but I was re-reading DoD and I came across this passage between Bottle and QB:

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"Then seek out something ont he Wastelans, Bottle.  See what you can see, because I can't get close, and neither, I think, can the Adjunct.  Find a wolf, or a coyote - they like to hang round armies and such.  Who's out there?'

"I'll try.  But if it's that risky, you might lose me.  I might lose me, which is even worse."

Quick Ben smiled his little smile and reached into the heap of dolls.  That's why I've tied this thread to this particular doll."

Bottle hissed.  "you miserable shit."

Stop complaining.  I'll pull you back if you get into trouble.  That's a promise."

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How do you know you can?  You don't even know what's out there.  And why would I want to put myself in the middle of a tugging contest?  I might well get torn to pieces."

"Since that wasn't the first thing you brought up," said Quick Ben, with a sly look, "I expect you have a few contingency plans to deal with the possibility."



Am I alone in thinking the scene at the end of the book with Bottle and QB was foreshadowed here??

This post has been edited by w_a: 24 October 2010 - 05:03 AM

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 04:38 AM

Change the topic title please - it's spoilerific.

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I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 24 October 2010 - 04:43 AM

 D, on 24 October 2010 - 04:38 AM, said:

Change the topic title please - it's spoilerific.




My bad...but yeah...about that....I'm still new here so I don't quite know how to change the topic....
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Posted 24 October 2010 - 05:02 AM

Go to edit your first post and you should be able to change the title.
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Posted 24 October 2010 - 05:04 AM

 MTS, on 24 October 2010 - 05:02 AM, said:

Go to edit your first post and you should be able to change the title.

Got it...
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Posted 24 October 2010 - 05:15 AM

Ok, now that's fixed.

I think the general consensus is that it's a foreshadowing that Bottle would get in some trouble sooner or later. It's also the evidence people use to support their theory that Bottle may be alive. Of course, it all relies on Quick Ben being able to pull him out, and his fate isn't exactly clear either...
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Posted 25 October 2010 - 04:36 AM

With all the build up around Bottle's character, does anyone really think he's dead? I mean, of all the Bonehunters, he has had so much work put into him, I cannot see him dying so ambiguously. Especially since he's like a little Quick Ben - too crafty to die until the end...
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Posted 25 October 2010 - 01:28 PM

IMO, Bottle will ne "Icarized" into many wyvals and then drawed thru doll by QB, who used Rashan teleport.
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Posted 26 October 2010 - 02:39 AM

 Tatterdemalion, on 25 October 2010 - 04:36 AM, said:

With all the build up around Bottle's character, does anyone really think he's dead? I mean, of all the Bonehunters, he has had so much work put into him, I cannot see him dying so ambiguously. Especially since he's like a little Quick Ben - too crafty to die until the end...


I would agree with that...except I felt like Keneb was built up as well and look what happened to him...
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Posted 29 October 2010 - 07:14 PM

 Ulrik, on 25 October 2010 - 01:28 PM, said:

IMO, Bottle will ne "Icarized" into many wyvals and then drawed thru doll by QB, who used Rashan teleport.


It just occurred to me that Bottle is going to become one of Quick Ben's souls. Miserable sh*t indeed.
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Posted 29 October 2010 - 09:00 PM

Now that's an interesting thought.
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Posted 01 November 2010 - 07:43 PM

wow never did think of that...but don't forget about all the little acorns Quick threw out...i think Quick made it through fine and will bring bottle back through his threads.
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Posted 01 November 2010 - 08:36 PM

 SiriusL, on 29 October 2010 - 07:14 PM, said:

 Ulrik, on 25 October 2010 - 01:28 PM, said:

IMO, Bottle will ne "Icarized" into many wyvals and then drawed thru doll by QB, who used Rashan teleport.


It just occurred to me that Bottle is going to become one of Quick Ben's souls.  Miserable sh*t indeed.


And QB will sink with ship after grand finale...because grandma said that Bottle will die at sea :(


But yeah, it is interesting idea...
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